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Oh Eunyoung's Golden Clinic
Today,
we will open our doors in a lovely way today!
Our client today is~
This is lovely... Right?
She's a stand-out aegyo fairy.
Even if you try to, you can't not be a fan!
She causes people to just accidentally start being fans.
Over all that! The first idol to
have a patent.
The biting heart.
Ah, you already know by now, right?
Yes, the inventor of the biting heart.
[Heart with biting tongue...?]
If cuteness was born as a human...
[A byword for "lovely"] I think it would be this person.
Our client today, on Golden Clinic:
Please enter the mental care room!
[Mother's smile]
She's even cute from behind.
Welcome to Oh Eunyoung's Golden Clinic!
Please introduce yourself through song.
"Now you've become two, watching you, seemingly having forgotten me"
"I'm lonelier and emptier now than when I was one~"
[So refreshing]
Cute!
[Member of 12-membered girl group LOONA, Chuu]
[A voice that's pure like a rolling jade bead]
[Lovely charm that can disarm anyone]
[With goofy lively charms!]
Today's client: Chuu All-round talent from girl group LOONA What concern does the always-lively Chuu have?
[Welcome]
Hello, hello sunbaenim!
Hello!
How pretty...
[Just her appearance brightens up the studio] The atmosphere just went up a little.
[Just her appearance brightens up the studio]
Looking forward to working with you today.
[All of the same mind] So cute...
[All of the same mind]
Today, our client Chuu - a byword for "cutie", don't you think?
Right, just by seeing her, she's just so so lovely.
So we've prepared a berry 3-combo, triple berry tea.
Thank you, I'll be sure to enjoy this.
It's full of vitamins,
And they say it's good for skin and eye health.
Is it really?
Oh this is so nice.
This is good.
(One-shot without hesitation)
Oh, that's good.
It's sweet.
Does the welcome tea taste alright?
It's the best drink I've ever had!
Then as the heart-person, could you express that best taste,
could you express it with a heart?
[Sending hearts]
[top 1 in the aegyo scene]
[Aunts and uncle are satisfied]
[Let me try..?]
Don't!
Chuu, Park Chuu.
Park Chuu?
[I'm the cutie in the comedian scene: Park Chuu] Park Chuu... Oh, geez...
Your hairstyles are even similar today!
Park Chuu.
[Real | Fake]
Since we've received Chuu's hearts,
I'll go right into the results of your mental test.
We'll start the mental test now.
While walking, you've stepped on poop.
Which of the following do you do?
1. Swear 2. Run away 3. Spread it on the ground 4. Figure out a solution
I think I would pick number 4!
This has happened before, I've stepped on dog poop.
I found a plastic bag, and held it in that,
and disposed of it in the general waste.
Number 4.
This mental test was a bit strong, wasn't it?
Huh? Poop?
Identifying a resolution to the situation of stepping on poop,
This was a test of "how my friends see me".
[Best reactions ever] I never expected her reaction to be that good..!
She was just giving the question!
Oh but it's fascinating! She was just giving the question!
Oh but it's fascinating!
How do your friends see Chuu, I wonder.
Is that verified?
Huh?
[Mental test's bodyguard] Let's not go that far...
[Mental test's bodyguard]
[Awkward] Yes, the results are immediate.
You said you'd find a solution.
Our Chuu is,
Within friends,
You're the master logician!
Master logician?
As someone without big mood swings,
- with your friend's problems, - Yes?
You're the type to logically resolve them.
However,
When focusing on the cause and effect,
due to the too-rational appearance from that,
be careful not to get into arguments with your friends?
What if I don't have any friends?
Huh...?
I really don't have as many friends as people think,
like one or two. And I might meet them once or twice a year.
Oh, these tests, they don't mean anything.
But it is fascinating.
Thank you so much for saying such things.
The "How my friends see me" Test You stepped on poop - what do you do? 1. Swear: <Honest> The type to honestly share emotions and your opinions with your friends
2. Run away: <Funniest> Tossing a funny joke to friends, the funny and cheerful type 3. Spread it on the ground: <Shy> Quickly aware of things, notices the smallest change in friends' feelings, a good listener 4. Seek a solution: <Logical> Without big mood swings, the type to logically resolve things
Now, by chance!
[Before the counseling] For people who might not know much about Chuu yet,
[Dig into Chuu: Donniepatch time] I'll give an introduction.
Real name!
Kim Jiwoo!
No, I'm saying these.
[Reaction fairy with no room for you to squeeze in]
Her reactions are so good! [Reaction fairy with no room for you to squeeze in]
(Calm down~) I'll give the intro.
Yes, I know~
Real name! Kim Jiwoo.
Born in 1999!
24 years old this year.
No way, right...
Time flies.
Debuted in the girl group LOONA in 2018.
Main vocal, right?
Yes, yes-- well there are no fixed roles, Main vocal, right?
Yes, yes-- well there are no fixed roles,
I'm just a member. (You're good at singing though~)
Debuted as a main vocal.
Currently, the total view count is!
over 120 million views!
Thank you!
And your solo Youtube content, Chuu Can Do It.
[Her solo content about protecting the environment]
[Cutie that does everything in her role]
1.13 million subscribers.
In how long?
Oh but it was just fun to film.
So I worked hard,
and the fans and public, like that,
they raised it up, which I'm grateful for.
And you've prepared something for Dr. Oh?
Oh, I've prepared <Tell your strengthchuu>
Since people tend to look at their weaknesses,
like seeing flaws when looking in the mirror.
I do that too.
So this isn't just flattery, but your strengths,
while I'm by your side, I wanted to just tell you this one time,
- Heavens... - Since I found this to be of great strength...
You'll tell us our strengths?
[Interesting]
Oh, then it's Chuu's chuuchie-chuuchie-coo time!
[Teacher Chuu's Chuuchie-chuuchie-chuu Time]
I want to feel better too!
First, for Dr. Oh,
You've really given a lot of people strength,
and told people how to find confidence they didn't know about,
which is so impressive.
I really wanted to tell you that,
you're such a person of honor like that.
- Thank you. - Oh my!
It feels like it's time for testimony...!
Oh, thank you to our aunt!
Thank you~
Then what about Park Chuu?
For teacher Park Chuu...
She's a teacher now!
Whenever buses pass by, I saw the ads,
and thought "I want to be a cool celebrity like her!"
You're so cute, really.
Oh my..!
I hope you don't have any hard times.
Hope you don't have any tough times!
Oh, I've been coochie-cooed...
Because you're always so upbeat, but at home,
I think you might be similar to me.
Maybe not having more worries...
Our Chuu,
we heard that you were scared to appear on this show.
Me,
That you were nervous. Me,
That you were nervous.
I was worried.
Sunbaenims had been on this show talking about such difficult situations,
so would it be okay if I came here with this kind of concern?
This concern is really small,
like is this really a concern,
so if it's not relatable,
"what, you've only been in the scene for 4-5 years and you're already exhausted?"
If it's like that...
No, no no.
The most troubled I've ever been in my life was when I was 24.
Really?
I was 24 when I left my job at Samsung.
Then, would it be taking the comedian entrance exam, or continuing work life?
I was extremely troubled back then.
Me too, when I was 24 I redid my face,
I had a ton of concerns back then.
Lying on the operating table, "is this right...?"
"Is this really the move?"
Life and death.
Oh, when the knife approached...
It's the most troubling age, 24.
Oh I see, thank you.
Chuu who's this bright and lovely,
we're curious what type of concerns you came on the show with.
Let's meet her through the prepared video.
[What concerns are you here for?]
Gangnam Severance Hospital,
I think I was going there once a month, to get an IV.
Is she ill??
Because my stomach was broken...
Stomach??
How's her stomach already broken?
Actually,
when I get stressed,
For a while I ate a ton of spicy food.
[Totally understood]
Always 5/5 spiciness.
Always level 5, or the spiciest flavor.
[Do you often de-stress by eating?]
Yes. Either spicy food, or just eating a ton.
I eat a lot.
[Chuu's growingly worrying concern]
Recently, the latest thing I ate was,
I got braised spicy chicken for 2-3 people,
added rice cakes, Chinese glass noodles,
A bowl of rice, and,
it's this big, it comes in this square-ish thing, for 2-3.
Like this big?
I eat it all.
It's good, doesn't take too long.
[Serious]
[Looking around] If I eat once,
it's not a satisfied fullness,
it's like "oh, I'm full! Oh, I'm full!!"
When I eat..!
So I think that's why it's painful.
I'll eat until it's up here, until it's hard to breathe.
Just pushing it down while eating.
I eat like that, when I get stressed.
Eating then vomiting, I think I ate like that.
Since I ate too much, and it's even a waste to vomit,
but from the stress, I'd feel queasy, and it would come out.
It has been a way for me to relieve stress.
[Serious]
[Anxious]
After seeing the interview, in the case of Chuu,
If you're going to the emergency room once a month...
- This is... Yes. - This is a problem.
I've even gone with my body stiffened up.
To the point where my hands were shaking.
I think I was going often near the start of the year.
Mid-last year...
From last July until this April or May?
Frequently, yes.
8 months...
8-9 months.
Is your stomach usually on the weak side?
Yes, since before last year, too, I de-stressed by eating,
but I couldn't get it under control.
If I eat until up here,
Then I take a bunch of digestives because of that.
Then, well-known digestives from abroad too,
I tried taking various things like that,
then, I started aching often.
I'm curious,
It's really well known that girl group members diet very hard.
I'm thinking of the even greater stress you get after eating, then.
Ah, I...
On days where I feel like I ate too much,
I don't know if I can say this, but,
I got queasy,
and that's happened before (vomiting).
And actually,
I de-stressed with this,
but from eating I get stressed, and I need to do activities,
so,
There was a time when I took dieting pills,
and those dieting pills had an effect on the mind,
I heard that it affects your head,
so I'd suddenly feel down,
so I did stop taking those.
I felt that exhaustion, and suddenly thought that it wasn't a good match for me.
Since it's not that emotion that I needed.
So I did stop that.
When we get stressed, actually,
sometimes we order food and regret it later.
Get something really spicy, and say ohh, my stomach hurts,
And there's a lot of people like this.
There's a lot, but,
this beautiful and cute girl group member Chuu,
when she reveals that she eats until the food's up to here,
She's brave to be appearing here right now.
Through your bravery, this helps you too,
but in your age group,
when people get stressed, many people over-eat.
But she's here to be of help for people with various difficulties.
So we need to talk about this.
Let's talk about it.
People have many different ways of de-stressing.
How do our top students de-stress?
Stress?
I call people over.
I'm the type to be healed a lot by others,
so I eat good food,
and listen to music,
and I listen to really powerful music, like EDM...
[I'm jealous...] and I listen to really powerful music, like EDM...
I'm the type to be like that. [I'm jealous...]
So I just let it all out in one go. [I'm jealous...]
So I just let it all out in one go.
That helps me a lot.
[I see...]
I just, well,
I play games.
I take medication first,
I do take medication in the evening.
I take that, and in a comfortable position, I play games a little.
Then...
You get sleepy?
When I get to be like this, I just go to sleep straight away.
Oh really?
But when I wake up, I do feel better.
Some people say that gaming is the most healthy hobby.
Really?
Yes, since it doesn't hurt anyone,
so a lot of people suggested gaming.
I'm trying to play games.
- Oh really? - Yes.
It's apparently very good.. I'm intentionally trying to learn.
From my younger brother.
One thing I have in common with Chuu is,
I'm proud of my spice tolerance.
Spicy things.
With spiciness I see things through.
With chili peppers I even grow my own cheongyang peppers to eat.
Since I need to have something on hand when I want to eat it,
so I grow some on the veranda.
so I can go at any time.
You're farming at home~
So I can eat it.
So when I get stressed, say I'm angry.
Then it feels hot here, I feel stuffy inside.
So I eat the most spicy dish available,
then with a hot glass of water...
Is this not torture?
Spicy food, then hot water?
It's how I wrap it up.
Let the steam out,
and it feels like things go out with it.
It feels like the heat cools off.
[Totally sympathizes] It feels like the heat cools off.
Let's hear from Chuu then,
How is it when you eat spicy food?
For me,
I don't like jjimjilbangs (Korean spas) but I do like sweating.
That really gets the sweat out.
My nose gets runny too,
then I feel somewhat...
Wow, right now is...
Yeah, I feel accomplished..! When I eat spicy food.
[Totally gets it]
[Doesn't get it]
Sometimes it's so spicy I get numb and can't think.
It's like ringing in my head.
At those times, just...
I don't think at all, and it's fun,
and I can't forget that feeling.
I guess that's addicting, the food.
Teacher, with the spicy sensation, it does feel like it's de-stressing. Is it not that?
What it means, a little bit, is,
It's a type of
It's kind of a self-harming effect.
[Self-harm effect?]
But when someone goes through too much pain,
Some people start hurting themselves.
Like they'll press hard, or,
or they'll cause themselves harm.
At those times, through various mechanisms,
They forget about the pain momentarily.
Through various mechanisms.
So, if you eat things that are too spicy, it does hurt your stomach.
We say that it tastes good,
but later, it hurts your mucous membranes.
Since with the pain, you forget about the stress for a moment.
So it is a sort of self-harming effect.
[I see...] So it is a sort of self-harming effect.
[I see...]
I'm a little curious,
Why is it food?
How did you get so deep into food, is what I'm wondering.
- Her de-stressing method? - Rather than something else.
For me, first, it caused the least hassle and raised my moods the fastest?
Since you just need to hold up a spoon.
So that used the least energy,
and around last year, I didn't have any income.
So I'd want to eat something,
but it would cost too much..
So that was a point of stress too,
so rather, I ordered and ate one really spicy thing and didn't leave any leftovers.
So that became a habit,
and what I told my friends was,
that I do "instant consolation".
They'd ask what "instant consolation" was,
then I'd say that food cheers me up.
Like chicken...
Yes, yes. That takes the least amount of time,
and it doesn't harm anyone else,
so I typically went for this.
[That's a shame]
No, but without stress, humans would lead empty lives.
The pains of life, from the moment you open your eyes, until you fall asleep.
Even while you're asleep, you're under constant stress.
But from person to person,
you receive and feel it in different ways.
What isn't stressful for someone, will be for someone else.
Let's take a stress vulnerability test together,
and have some time to think about ourselves.
We have a checklist prepared.
This stress vulnerability checklist has 7 items.
So let's count how many apply to ourselves, including Chuu.
#1. If things don't work out, you blame yourself first.
#2. You don't have any friends to discuss important problems with.
#3. You can't clearly express what you want.
#4. When completing work, you feel more relieved than accomplished.
#5. You've given up on hobbies, due to it feeling like work.
#6. You often hear that you have high goals.
Lastly, #7. You've often been skeptical of compliments towards yourself.
[#1. If things don't work out, you blame yourself first.] [#2. You don't have any friends to discuss important problems with.] [#3. You can't clearly express what you want.] [#4. When completing work, you feel more relieved than accomplished.] [#5. You've given up on hobbies, due to it feeling like work.] [#6. You often hear that you have high goals.] [#7. You've often been skeptical of compliments towards yourself.]
How was that for our students?
How many applied for you?
For me, I've often been skeptical of compliments.
Since I was an unknown entertainer for a long time,
so I couldn't take compliments right away.
So, one thing.
For me, I blame myself first when things don't work out.
Then, I hear that my goals are high.
I think these two apply to me.
Before, I think a lot of these applied to me.
In my 20s, I had a lot of ambitions and was striving for those,
I think a lot of these applied.
In that case, that means that you've developed some strength in handling stress.
Oh, so that can happen?
Of course. Oh, so that can happen?
Of course.
Chuu, how many applied for you?
For me,
Five or six?
- Five to six? - Yes, five.
With hobbies I try to get everything done when I have days off,
but to me at one point, a bit... Yes.
It became a scheduled task.
Yes, it felt like work.
On your one day off... Yes, it felt like work.
Yes. On days off, I do feel like I'm stuck in place,
And while seeing great people coming up all the time,
My mindset of needing to follow along...
"You're doing so great on shows right now!"
When you hear that, are you skeptical?
When you get compliments, are you skeptical of them?
Yes, I figure they're just kind...
Oh, so not genuine?
Oh, genuine, but just out of their kindness.
So seeing you in a more positive way?
Yes, yes. So seeing you in a more positive way?
These days,
people say "oh you're cute, so cute!"
Then I just think, "Oh I'm not, are they saying this out of awkwardness?"
I think things like, "oh, I've gained weight recently, though..."
I'm very thankful for those words.
But you know those times,
After recording, sunbaenims or someone,
"Chuu you did great today"
but even if you did well in your mind,
do you not feel that totally when someone tells you that?
I think of what I was lacking in more first,
So "why did I do that,"
I am the type to have regrets first.
Regrets first,
Then, "are the compliments real?"
"I'll have to see it on air."
I'll have to see for myself.
[(Yes) #7 Skeptical of compliments]
If more than four of these apply to you,
when stress approaches me, am I on the weaker side of things?
Am I vulnerable to stress?
There's a need to think about these things.
Since many of these apply to Chuu,
It is right that you are vulnerable to stress in some ways.
But if you can't deal with the stress,
or if you're vulnerable to it, what can occur is,
various side-effects in your daily life.
So with the stress you take in,
If you try to suppress it too hard,
it stacks and stacks, and later it explodes.
So think of a bowl that holds the stress, inside of ourselves.
So here, there are some people who can't handle even a little stress in this bowl.
Some people have to empty the bowl immediately.
Then, since they're so busily emptying this bowl,
they can't get a clear grasp of what exactly is causing their stress.
I think Chuu is a little bit like this.
Even with a little stress,
You need to empty it quickly, there's incoming stress.
Stress entering - let's empty it really quickly!
But to empty this stress out, you need to do something, but since you have no time,
Since you need something quick, feel something intense,
Oh, spiciness. Since you need something quick, feel something intense,
Yes, feeling full with spiciness.
If you eat really fast, you feel full really fast.
Eat hard, then,
"Oh I feel full..."
Then after that, after it digests,
You forget about what was stressing you out.
You're just sending it off.
Yes, yes.
Then the bowl does empty immediately,
but actually, the thing that's constantly causing my stress,
you need to get a good look at it, and understand it properly,
but you're not getting that far,
and emptying this bowl before that.
It feels like you're not stressed, but it happens repeatedly.
So you can't grasp the stress well,
and I think you're having trouble managing it.
So when it's not food,
I've cried to de-stress too.
"Try crying, out loud"
It's relieving.
Yes. "It's relieving to cry?"
Then, "okay, let's get all the crying out, get everything out"
So I had 3 hours or so before the next schedule,
and I prepared to cry,
Preparing to cry.
Like okay, I'll try crying.
Got all ready to sleep,
and put my lotion on, and got in bed, and thought,
Then the tears came out within a second.
So with a method like that... Yes.
I've tried that.
After crying, do you feel better?
Definitely,
rather than offloading my concerns to someone by talking with them,
I liked that I could handle it all by myself.
So, while following along with what others did,
Like, "oh that de-stresses? Then I'll have to try it"
And trying games for no reason.
For no reason, "oh I heard exercise is good for stress"
Then, "oh, I better exercise."
Exercise,
but actually, I'm thinking about time.
Right...
I'm always doing the math.
That's why I don't think it was so effective.
That's very important. Reason being,
Even now, about de-stressing methods,
in your mind, you feel like you have to "do" something.
If you feel like you have to do something,
if you have no time, you need to resolve it quickly, and then you choose certain methods,
like, setting up and starting to cry,
and after crying, "oh that feels great", then,
Do that, then you return.
Crying from real sadness is okay.
I think it's fine to cry for a long time if you are feeling sad.
And crying isn't bad either,
but to have a de-stressing method,
is to face the stress, and identify it.
You have to know why something is a source of stress,
so that you can handle it well.
But thinking you have to "do" something to de-stress,
You don't have to have this "Do It!" mindset.
Even if you aren't doing something, you can handle stress.
I think, in Chuu's mind, you feel that you have to be "doing" something.
Yes...
Let's talk about it, everyone.
For Chuu, what things cause you stress?
What are you stressed about?
It's somewhat...
I think it's to the point where I've erased it from my memory, but,
[What's the reason for Chuu's hesitation?]
[When you're tired, are you the type to air it out?]
Basically, I don't like others knowing my concerns,
and actually, the more exhausted I was, the higher my tone became.
I didn't want to show it,
and hoped that others wouldn't realize.
Because I thought that I couldn't get caught,
so I actually whipped myself into raising the mood even more.
At times like this, I need to be more...
Show that I'm doing well.
Only showing my best.
[Why do you hide your tiredness so much?]
Because I think people think of me as someone who's always bright,
so that's why, a bit,
as if nothing happened before, just doing well, the bright,
that state of Jiwoo, I felt like I had to maintain that too,
so as much as I can, I try to never cry while outside.
Can't get caught feeling tired?
My mind was really drawn to what you said.
That's a shame, and I am feeling worried.
Ah, I...
Since I was young, it has been my dream to be a singer,
So very gratefully,
now people are recognizing me and loving me a little,
and I very much want to maintain this.
If I could grow it I would,
but going backwards,
or wanting to take a break,
things like this for me now,
even if I couldn't sleep for a week, "that's okay!"
then memorize lines... When I had overlapping webdrama activities too,
even without sleep, "that's okay!"
I can do it, anything, I thought of this as obvious.
[Chuu, happy to work even if it's tiring]
[Then how is it at home?]
As opposed to always smiling, at home,
If I have a vacation, I feel so lonely.
My feelings?
So I did have vacations,
I did have some breaks this year.
But those breaks were so hard,
I didn't know what to do,
and I got more depressed after every hour.
I felt that way.
Smiling for a long time,
Acting so innocently like before, feels harder nowadays.
Because I've been hurt,
I think that was very difficult.
[Various emotions from Chuu's honest confession]
[Feeling awkward]
Actually, my emotions do change everyday,
so when I'm briefly feeling tired,
I do have concerns about that briefly,
and if nothing's going on, I do like being with and talking with people,
but I'd like to say that I'm a person who prefers being bright.
Oh, of course.
Narae is so fun, but,
some days, she has days where she's feeling down too.
How can any human be bright 365 days a year, 24 hours a day?
That's strange!
Yes. Humans go through various things,
and live with appropriate emotions from what they go through.
That's such a natural thing.
Let's think of this.
Say we're at a company.
I'm the head.
And here's the youngest employee.
Say it's time to leave work.
But the head comes up,
and I say something bad has happened at the company.
We need to fix it.
So we all need to stay and work the night.
All of a sudden.
20 minutes before leaving work, suddenly.
Chuu, if that were you, what would you do?
Tell us how you'd typically react to this situation.
I think I'd die from the stuffiness...
It's stress, right?
That's stress. "Oh how stressful, all of a sudden..."
That's stress.
Then Chuu, what would you do?
[Curious]
If I can finish this work quickly and leave,
Family reunion, family reunion...
Your parents came up to meet you, and...
They're out of batteries, you can't contact them.
What to do..?
Oh, this place is so...
Oh I'm becoming a nervous wreck...
[She's honest]
What to do!
Our company's in a very risky position.
Very dangerous situation for us.
Right now, assistant manager Park and Lee are here, so Chuu, what are you doing?
Do you have any arrangements?
Then I'll stay here...
Of course I need to.
Yes, then later, be sure to diligently take the calls.
Yes.
Now why we took this example was,
because Chuu doesn't want to show that she's tired.
It's because that was really stuck in my mind.
These situations really are stressful.
It's stressful.
And it's okay to express the fact that you're stressed, when you're stressed.
- It is, isn't it? - Yes, it is!
Since it's the time to show it.
Of course. You're being put in a tough spot, Since it's the time to show it.
Of course. You're being put in a tough spot,
and I'm saying it's okay to express that.
I think for us, our culture can't handle grumbling.
[It does tend to be like that]
You can grumble.
Oh, I'd like for the company to do well too, but,
this is bewildering, all of a sudden.
Because you say these things,
because you express dissatisfaction,
nothing big happens from that.
So how to handle this in a better way would be,
Oh, it would've been nice if you told me in advance, there would've been no issue.
But this is all so sudden, so I'm taken aback too.
But what can you do?
[1. Plainly state your feelings] But what can you do?
If the company requires it, I'll do what I can too. [1. Plainly state your feelings]
If something really must be resolved, it could be done late into the night too. [1. Plainly state your feelings]
If something really must be resolved, it could be done late into the night too.
So I'll meet my arrangement and return.
I'll be back after meeting them briefly.
[2. Offer an alternative] I'll be back after meeting them briefly.
You can decide to do that, [2. Offer an alternative]
You can decide to do that,
but during all of that,
you're the type who doesn't want to express difficulty even in stressful situations.
So for example, Chuu could be like this:
Oh, of course, I need to stay!
If you're like this, the real emotions you're feeling
I'm saying that you're feeling exposed when expressing such things.
Yes, yes.
I think you need to think carefully about this.
But I could receive disdain for that,
I don't want that, so,
There have been people like that before. There were,
but even if it wasn't towards me,
hearing it, I couldn't help but to take note.
Oh, let's hear about this, I think this is very important.
Let's hear about this.
For example in a certain situation,
"Agh, where is it??"
If someone grumbles something like that,
I'll just lend my own things.
"Want mine?"
Like this, I think I tend to do that.
Because that situation itself,
I think it's most important to resolve these situations before moving on.
So everyone's feeling better, removing problems.
Have you always been like this? Or is this after joining a girl group?
Have you changed a little from your environment, or have you always kind of been like this?
I think I've just been like this since I was young.
Just...
Yes, I've been like that, I think.
For example, at school,
I was waiting for a bus with friends on our way to get food.
"Agh the bus is gonna be here in 15 minutes!"
Someone said that once.
"Agh and it's so hot outside..."
So I quickly looked at the bus schedule,
"oh it'll be here in some number of minutes,"
"but if we walk a little, there's a bus over there."
"Should we take that bus?"
Being like that, for me,
- Does it set you at ease? - Yes, it puts me at ease.
Grasping the situation is important,
because I don't want to hurt anyone,
so it ends up being like that.
One very important thing here is,
When someone's like "oh why's it like this! How bothersome!"
These feelings belong to whom?
That person.
How come you're so anxious about that?
When they're theirs?
While being in this situation, in case those sparks start flying,
or the situation could make people feel worse,
and I'll feel bad about it too.
So I think it's something to resolve together.
For me too,
Say Narae is a friend here,
and she's like "how come there's no pencil here?!"
I just don't like this air.
Ah, yes. I've been like that since grade school.
Yes, so,
That air.
Moving beyond the discomfort that that person is giving me,
I just don't like that air.
Yes, yes, yes. I just don't like that air.
Yes, yes, yes.
With this, what many people misunderstand about empathy is,
to feel empathetic,
people think their feelings must be identical to the other person's.
What empathy is,
Empathy isn't telling someone that your emotions are identical to theirs,
rather, it's about the fact that you understand this person's feelings.
Then, for example,
Say someone says, "oh, how bothersome!"
Then, seeing that, "ah, so this person's bothered by something missing."
[Just understanding their feelings is okay]
But that person's a sunbae. [Just understanding their feelings is okay]
In that case,
"Oh, are you bothered by something missing? Should I bring that up?"
That's cooperation.
You're cooperating.
But Chuu,
When you hear "how bothersome!"
"Oh I'll give you mine."
You're trying to resolve this person's emotions.
You take in their emotions like a wet blanket.
They become your own emotions.
You're resolving everything, like "oh hey hey,"
I guess that's why I avoid group gatherings.
It's already tiring, since it's clear that I'll be seeing how others are doing.
Right...
So when I meet friends, it's once in half a year,
With one person.
My friends are all so nice, but,
- Just... - On your own.
Yes, just on my own, somewhat...
[Got used to seeing how others are doing] Yes, just on my own, somewhat...
[Got used to seeing how others are doing]
I think I really wanted to make others happy.
Through me, the time this person and I have to hang out has to be fun.
So when 5 people gather, I see how all 5 are doing,
- Everyone? - What do you want to eat? And you? And you?
I ask and try to take the lead, I've been like that.
So, whether it's your emotions or someone else's,
Negative and uncomfortable emotions,
you're struggling a lot with seeing that.
In reality, there are times when you're not clear about how you're feeling yourself,
while you've been you've been eating and crying, unable to manage your own feelings,
You're very focused on the emotions of others, and these are outside your control.
Since I get over my stress by doing this, by resolving things.
So I think that's why I'm like this.
If I do this, will this resolve it for them too?
That could be the case.
Regardless, if you could push that back a little,
Holding onto those uncomfortable emotions a little,
one needs to learn to process those emotions properly,
If you don't learn this,
you won't be able to handle even a little bit of that uncomfortable emotion in that bowl.
I think there's a bit of that. But not just your own, you can't handle other's dealing with it either.
That seems to be so.
So you're trying to resolve things for them.
Resolving for them.
I wonder why?
With that, if I try thinking about it,
I think being the oldest- I'm the oldest daughter.
And with a large age difference,
Honestly, I do have a sense of responsibility.
"You have to take care of your younger siblings well"
Honestly I've heard that a lot too.
Things like this, yes.
But I definitely don't dislike this. Things like this, yes.
But I definitely don't dislike this.
Since doing this work too, it's to live well with my family,
there is a bit of that, so,
Who am I to... Like this...
Yes. There's a little bit of that mindset.
Do you think that if you say you're tired,
that you won't be able to work?
Thinking, "you're on your way to accomplishing what you've been working hard towards,"
So to the people who are liking me,
I need to keep putting my best foot forward,
But it's somewhat like I'm... Yes.
I want to keep doing it, so I think I'm dragging it along.
I still have family too.
Seeing it one way, as you're the oldest daughter,
the environment, always having to take care of your younger siblings,
I think you've grown very used to that.
That's fairly typical,
but while living a life in entertainment scene,
it hasn't been long since you've started, and you're young,
You've wanted to do this so much, while constantly worrying...
Being very conscious of others,
being worried about things,
you must've been feeling so troubled.
So I think these aspects have gotten more intense.
It's not just Chuu,
but the youth these days,
in this competitive society,
seeing it one way,
if I'm not constantly showing my skills, that I can do it,
it's somewhat like losing in the competition,
and the anxiety, feeling that you won't get a good opportunity,
so when they're tired, sad, or burdened,
people try excessively hard to not show it.
This is called "smile mask syndrome"
Very many people go through this.
Everyone's like,
smiling - as if wearing a smiling mask.
It's a bit compulsive.
I "have" to be like this all the time.
I have to show myself being bright, innocent, and happy.
It's a little compulsive.
Behind this compulsion is an uneasiness,
this underlying uneasiness being,
If people see me being exhausted, will it have a negative effect on me?
What happens if I lose in this race?
Thinking of things like this.
Here's a 7-item smile mask syndrome checklist.
Please count along.
1. You often hear that you seem like you haven't a concern in the world.
2. When talking about something difficult, you start smiling without realizing.
3. When an angering situation comes up, you cool down on your own.
4. You've often apologized, even if you've done nothing wrong.
5. You feel uneasy in conversations, for fear of someone knowing your inner feelings 6. After meeting up with someone, you feel exhausted once you get home 7. You can't finish a movie due to lack of focus
Of the seven items,
If more than four apply,
you have some signs of smile mask syndrome, so
it's recommended that you consult someone regarding this for direct help.
How many applied for you?
For me, around five.
Which one did you agree with the most?
For me, smiling when I talk about difficult things.
"Oh I'm full, oh I'm full!" I eat like that.
When I eat..!
After eating like that for a year, I felt like it would be the end of me.
And, I've often apologized even while I had done nothing wrong.
"Could you do this for me, by chance?"
When I say this, fearing that my inner feelings will be found out,
I do get anxious, so I don't say anything, or,
I smile really widely, and then,
"Oh could you do this for me by chance?"
so I'll talk like this?
[Tends to exaggerate to be more bright] so I'll talk like this?
[Tends to exaggerate to be more bright]
How many did the others have?
I think I used to have smile mask syndrome.
I'm much better now.
Much better, but what still remains is,
Smiling without realizing when talking about difficult things.
If Dr. Oh was here when I was 24...
I wouldn't have had to do so much trial and error...
Honestly while hearing Chuu today,
I could see my 20s flashing by, so much.
How were Park-Chuu's 20s?
Park-Chuu's 20s were...
I was the oldest daughter too. My parents were outside Seoul,
and for a comedian, I debuted early.
I "really" wanted to do well.
I had a lot of ambition.
So, I tried so hard to do well.
Even if I was tired, I couldn't show it,
when I had already come this far.
While others are trying 7, 8 times,
"You got lucky to stand on the comedian's stage"
"But you're saying that you're tired of it?"
I had thoughts of that being foolish.
So, I'm not like this now, but before, even while passing by,
there were many people who thoughtlessly said things.
"Oh are you not going to be on 'Gag Concert'? It's boring!"
There were people like that.
Then, at the time,
"Oh~ I'm preparing a new segment, it'll be funny!"
I behaved like that.
Really pouring it out.
Pouring it out, and, Really pouring it out.
Pouring it out, and,
Well, in my head, I had so many thoughts like "I can't be shaken from things like that"
but at a certain point, it was just so exhausting.
For me, the physical symptoms hit me so hard.
My skin got much worse,
"Oh, I can't live like this"
About unfair and unpleasant things,
I'd have to point these things out clearly.
Since I always smiled, people didn't realize that I was being hurt!
Right...
So if someone called me ugly,
"Oh~ but still~"
With that, I thought people understood.
So I thought, "oh they'll get it", but,
with just that, they definitely won't.
"Oh, hearing things like that makes me feel kinda bad"
You need to be specific with your wording when saying that,
for them to realize.
So while seeing Chuu smiling when talking about difficult things,
It hurt so much to see.
It's okay...
I see... Okay.
But like Chuu, youth these days,
compared to our generation, there's much fewer opportunities for work.
To young workers these days, thrown into a world of competition and results,
it's an often-seen phenomenon of stress.
Yes. And in real-world research,
they found that it affects 4 out of 10 workers. Almost half.
Almost half of people exhibit this.
More people than you might expect are struggling with this.
I think that's the same with Chuu.
Always showing your good side, innocent and bright, making others happy.
Like what we call the "happy-virus".
Where only the "me" that shows that, seems like the real "me".
And if I'm not showing that, it feels like I'll fall behind in the race.
If you have lots of thoughts like this,
this becomes a very big symptom of stress.
Right...
As you live life, it's not the case that you encounter only good things.
Unexpected, undesirable things occur.
When feeling too exhausted or wronged,
Oh, just...
"Should I just end it all" - some people even think like this.
Right...
When you're feeling that exhausted, Chuu, what do you do?
Who do you meet up with, who do you share these feelings with?
Before, I didn't-- couldn't deal with it at all.
I couldn't cry either,
I couldn't go outside either,
I couldn't go get fresh air,
I didn't think I could call someone on the phone either, thinking it would be too loud.
I just closed my eyes really tightly,
and slept, to sweep that day away.
What about your mom, or family?
As I've only started doing that recently...
Before that, was there a reason for it being difficult to talk with your mom?
[Focused]
I thought that there was a big problem in my life,
I told her the problem.
"I think this is a problem, what do you think?" To my family.
But she actually said to endure it,
since it was for my sake too, telling me to endure it.
Even if there's emotional or external damage, to hang in there.
But I had experience getting exhausted after enduring that for months,
so after she told me to endure that, I didn't talk with my mom for 6 months.
Because I was so tired, I didn't contact her.
Because I didn't think she understood.
So you felt disappointed...
Yes, something felt off, but, So you felt disappointed...
Yes, something felt off, but,
Really, just,
I was so upset, so,
I just,
I just said I was so exhausted.
Just a moment...
[Times when it was hard enduring by oneself]
Thank you...
[Hidden behind the bright expression, nights spent with tears]
This is from the past, and I'm really fine now, but, [Hidden behind the bright expression, nights spent with tears]
[Hidden behind the bright expression, nights spent with tears]
but with that,
there were lots of things going on.
Hard things that came at once,
I don't think I knew any methods for that.
Since at the time, it was early after debut, so the time we were allowed to be outside,
We were allowed to be outside for maybe 20 minutes?
Not over an hour.
So I really wanted to go outside to get some fresh air,
If I didn't get some air at the time,
At the time...
It was really hard.
I see.
[Weather of the mind that should've been "always sunny"]
[Became an arid desert after a point]
Feeling exhausted when you encounter a hard situation,
that's an obvious thing.
In fact, it's strange to not show that.
So, no one will say anything to Chuu about that.
I want for Chuu feel more comfortable,
to feel and express more natural emotions,
so that you can better do the work that you want, for a longer time.
[Warm advice from Dr. Oh for Chuu]
As we live our lives, we wear social masks.
Right.
By social masks, I don't mean that we're tricking people,
or putting on a face,
but sometimes, while in a role, or in a position,
we act one way, react, and so on,
and in other times, we act in another way.
For example, let's say Yoonji
with Yoonji, here recording this show today,
compared to the mother who washes and feeds her kids,
they're absolutely not the same.
You could never wash and feed your kids dressed like this.
With that hair and makeup...
I got home with makeup on, and my second child,
"mom, why are you like that?"
She thought it was a totally different mask..!
She was so shocked.
Did she try to take it off?
I guess I seem that different.
[Her daughter Soul is cute]
We actually call this "multi-persona" [Her daughter Soul is cute]
We actually call this "multi-persona"
The "me" that I see when I'm alone,
is never a 100% match with how others perceive me.
So it just says we have many sides of ourselves.
So, with this range of personas,
With the many situations we face,
we need to react to them in a more comfortable way for ourselves,
for us to be healthy.
In a very positive way, it's like camouflage.
When I'm in a social environment, meeting various people,
it's camouflage, it protects me.
We call these things social masks.
But with Chuu here,
You only have a single social mask.
Just one.
Yes, you only have one social mask.
The bright, innocent,
always high-energy, happy-virus side of yourself, just that one.
But there are times where that social mask won't work.
But while living with just that one mask,
and, if you lower that mask,
there's a fear of losing everything you've built up so far, or it falling apart.
- That sounds nerve-wracking. - Yes, it is.
If I even slightly show myself being tired,
"What if all my fans, who have loved my bright side, leave?"
One can develop fears like this.
I guess it's because I want to always show my bright-- a good side, and make them happy.
It's me being greedy.
So, I think, the many emotions inside Chuu,
the negative emotions that any human would naturally feel,
You can be angry, upset, or despondent,
you can feel sad, or down.
These are such obvious things.
So, relax a little and feel these things,
and when you're alone, I think it would be good to try something like self-discomfort theater.
It's doing this when you're alone:
Richard Stephens, a British psychologist,
said that swearing very freely greatly assists in relaxing mental pain.
Certainly not towards someone else, but,
But by oneself, it's so bad.
So those grandmas that swear a ton...
They live long lives!
[Secret for the swearing grandmas' long lives (laugh)]
Same as they were 10, 20 years ago! [Secret for the swearing grandmas' long lives (laugh)]
Same as they were 10, 20 years ago!
[Maintaining youth] Same as they were 10, 20 years ago!
Right! [Maintaining youth]
[Maintaining youth]
"You rotten little!"
With this great tip,
For real... With this great tip,
Here, just go all out, and...
Agh, "fudge..."
[Narae's hard-hitting example]
You really need to go hard on that consonant sound. [Narae's hard-hitting example]
You really need to go hard on that consonant sound.
agh "fffffudge..!"
Fffudge..!
There you go!
Like that? There you go!
Like that?
Is this allowed to be on TV?
What's wrong with fudge?
It is relieving.
- Is it? - Yes.
[Cools down inside]
Like that. [Cools down inside]
With a mother's heart, Dr. Oh, for Chuu, yes...
Yes, really with a mother's heart.
So there's something I really wanted to tell Chuu.
Just from a mom's heart.
Chuu,
At your age, you experience many things.
You can't do everything well, all the time.
As they say, mistakes and failures will become your foundation.
You don't need to be so scared.
When you're exhausted, you can say so.
Our Chuu is Chuu even when you're tired,
you're still Chuu when you're doing well,
At times, even when you shed tears, you're Chuu,
You'll always be Chuu.
That doesn't change who you are.
So, don't be afraid of the fans that love you leaving,
for you showing many sides of yourself.
Your fans will like the more human Chuu even more.
Okay.
Thank you.
Letting out my concerns itself, actually,
I was worried about it, but,
The things I had ignored while living my life,
I see them again, and I think I need to try resolving them too.
For our Chuu,
This was a very big challenge for her, to appear on this show.
I think it required a lot of courage.
So Chuu, who bravely did this,
you've already taken a step forward today.
Golden Clinic's finale.
It's "Eunyoung's Magic Time."
The sparkling magic to bestow onto client Chuu.
Eunyoung magic's coming, we'll put it on you.
Protect Jiwoo. [T/N: Based on the Korean title for Chuu Can Do It]
Okay!
Tada!
You got this made yourself??
Oh we're not selling them--
[Cushions are not for sale] Oh we're not selling them--
Oh, thank you so much!
It's one of a kind.
Chuu is...
You're the best at expressing yourself, just the way you are.
You don't need to bother with it too much.
No matter what happens,
If you've done your best,
Life will go on.
I hope that Jiwoo can protect Chuu well.
Thank you.
Having done this together today,
How do you feel after talking with Dr. Oh?
I really feel like I've gotten a solution,
I've been curious about how to fix this.
But you've taught me a lot,
and embraced me the way that I am,
and understood me,
and told me to love that,
so I'll also try hard to be happy, as myself.
Thank you. She's so good with words.
Everyone! We'll satisfyingly resolve any of your concerns.
Please visit Oh Eunyoung's "Golden Clinic" often!
Come visit!
[Let's always protect Chuu] [Chuu can do it / Protect Jiwoo]
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