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Oh Eunyoung's Golden Clinic
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Today,
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we will open our doors in a lovely way today!
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Our client today is~
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This is lovely... Right?
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She's a stand-out aegyo fairy.
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Even if you try to, you can't not be a fan!
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She causes people to just accidentally start being fans.
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Over all that! The first idol to
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have a patent.
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The biting heart.
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Ah, you already know by now, right?
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Yes, the inventor of the biting heart.
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[Heart with biting tongue...?]
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If cuteness was born as a human...
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[A byword for "lovely"]
I think it would be this person.
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Our client today, on Golden Clinic:
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Please enter the mental care room!
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[Mother's smile]
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She's even cute from behind.
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Welcome to Oh Eunyoung's Golden Clinic!
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Please introduce yourself through song.
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"Now you've become two, watching you, seemingly having forgotten me"
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"I'm lonelier and emptier now than when I was one~"
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[So refreshing]
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Cute!
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[Member of 12-membered girl group LOONA, Chuu]
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[A voice that's pure like a rolling jade bead]
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[Lovely charm that can disarm anyone]
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[With goofy lively charms!]
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Today's client: Chuu
All-round talent from girl group LOONA
What concern does the always-lively Chuu have?
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[Welcome]
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Hello, hello sunbaenim!
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Hello!
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How pretty...
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[Just her appearance brightens up the studio]
The atmosphere just went up a little.
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[Just her appearance brightens up the studio]
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Looking forward to working with you today.
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[All of the same mind]
So cute...
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[All of the same mind]
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Today, our client Chuu - a byword for "cutie", don't you think?
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Right, just by seeing her, she's just so so lovely.
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So we've prepared a berry 3-combo, triple berry tea.
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Thank you, I'll be sure to enjoy this.
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It's full of vitamins,
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And they say it's good for skin and eye health.
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Is it really?
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Oh this is so nice.
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This is good.
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(One-shot without hesitation)
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Oh, that's good.
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It's sweet.
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Does the welcome tea taste alright?
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It's the best drink I've ever had!
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Then as the heart-person, could you express that best taste,
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could you express it with a heart?
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[Sending hearts]
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[top 1 in the aegyo scene]
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[Aunts and uncle are satisfied]
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[Let me try..?]
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Don't!
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Chuu, Park Chuu.
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Park Chuu?
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[I'm the cutie in the comedian scene: Park Chuu]
Park Chuu... Oh, geez...
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Your hairstyles are even similar today!
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Park Chuu.
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[Real | Fake]
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Since we've received Chuu's hearts,
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I'll go right into the results of your mental test.
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We'll start the mental test now.
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While walking, you've stepped on poop.
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Which of the following do you do?
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1. Swear
2. Run away
3. Spread it on the ground
4. Figure out a solution
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I think I would pick number 4!
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This has happened before, I've stepped on dog poop.
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I found a plastic bag, and held it in that,
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and disposed of it in the general waste.
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Number 4.
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This mental test was a bit strong, wasn't it?
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Huh? Poop?
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Identifying a resolution to the situation of stepping on poop,
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This was a test of "how my friends see me".
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[Best reactions ever]
I never expected her reaction to be that good..!
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She was just giving the question!
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Oh but it's fascinating!
She was just giving the question!
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Oh but it's fascinating!
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How do your friends see Chuu, I wonder.
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Is that verified?
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Huh?
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[Mental test's bodyguard]
Let's not go that far...
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[Mental test's bodyguard]
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[Awkward]
Yes, the results are immediate.
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You said you'd find a solution.
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Our Chuu is,
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Within friends,
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You're the master logician!
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Master logician?
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As someone without big mood swings,
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- with your friend's problems,
- Yes?
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You're the type to logically resolve them.
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However,
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When focusing on the cause and effect,
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due to the too-rational appearance from that,
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be careful not to get into arguments with your friends?
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What if I don't have any friends?
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Huh...?
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I really don't have as many friends as people think,
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like one or two. And I might meet them once or twice a year.
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Oh, these tests, they don't mean anything.
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But it is fascinating.
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Thank you so much for saying such things.
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The "How my friends see me" Test
You stepped on poop - what do you do?
1. Swear: <Honest> The type to honestly share emotions and your opinions with your friends
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2. Run away: <Funniest> Tossing a funny joke to friends, the funny and cheerful type
3. Spread it on the ground: <Shy> Quickly aware of things, notices the smallest change in friends' feelings, a good listener
4. Seek a solution: <Logical> Without big mood swings, the type to logically resolve things
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Now, by chance!
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[Before the counseling]
For people who might not know much about Chuu yet,
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[Dig into Chuu: Donniepatch time]
I'll give an introduction.
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Real name!
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Kim Jiwoo!
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No, I'm saying these.
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[Reaction fairy with no room for you to squeeze in]
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Her reactions are so good!
[Reaction fairy with no room for you to squeeze in]
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(Calm down~)
I'll give the intro.
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Yes, I know~
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Real name! Kim Jiwoo.
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Born in 1999!
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24 years old this year.
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No way, right...
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Time flies.
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Debuted in the girl group LOONA in 2018.
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Main vocal, right?
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Yes, yes-- well there are no fixed roles,
Main vocal, right?
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Yes, yes-- well there are no fixed roles,
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I'm just a member.
(You're good at singing though~)
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Debuted as a main vocal.
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Currently, the total view count is!
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over 120 million views!
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Thank you!
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And your solo Youtube content, Chuu Can Do It.
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[Her solo content about protecting the environment]
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[Cutie that does everything in her role]
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1.13 million subscribers.
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In how long?
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Oh but it was just fun to film.
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So I worked hard,
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and the fans and public, like that,
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they raised it up, which I'm grateful for.
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And you've prepared something for Dr. Oh?
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Oh, I've prepared <Tell your strengthchuu>
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Since people tend to look at their weaknesses,
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like seeing flaws when looking in the mirror.
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I do that too.
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So this isn't just flattery, but your strengths,
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while I'm by your side, I wanted to just tell you this one time,
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- Heavens...
- Since I found this to be of great strength...
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You'll tell us our strengths?
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[Interesting]
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Oh, then it's Chuu's chuuchie-chuuchie-coo time!
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[Teacher Chuu's Chuuchie-chuuchie-chuu Time]
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I want to feel better too!
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First, for Dr. Oh,
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You've really given a lot of people strength,
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and told people how to find confidence they didn't know about,
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which is so impressive.
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I really wanted to tell you that,
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you're such a person of honor like that.
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- Thank you.
- Oh my!
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It feels like it's time for testimony...!
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Oh, thank you to our aunt!
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Thank you~
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Then what about Park Chuu?
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For teacher Park Chuu...
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She's a teacher now!
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Whenever buses pass by, I saw the ads,
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and thought "I want to be a cool celebrity like her!"
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You're so cute, really.
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Oh my..!
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I hope you don't have any hard times.
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Hope you don't have any tough times!
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Oh, I've been coochie-cooed...
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Because you're always so upbeat, but at home,
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I think you might be similar to me.
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Maybe not having more worries...
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Our Chuu,
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we heard that you were scared to appear on this show.
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Me,
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That you were nervous.
Me,
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That you were nervous.
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I was worried.
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Sunbaenims had been on this show talking about such difficult situations,
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so would it be okay if I came here with this kind of concern?
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This concern is really small,
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like is this really a concern,
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so if it's not relatable,
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"what, you've only been in the scene for 4-5 years and you're already exhausted?"
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If it's like that...
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No, no no.
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The most troubled I've ever been in my life was when I was 24.
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Really?
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I was 24 when I left my job at Samsung.
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Then, would it be taking the comedian entrance exam, or continuing work life?
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I was extremely troubled back then.
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Me too, when I was 24 I redid my face,
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I had a ton of concerns back then.
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Lying on the operating table, "is this right...?"
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"Is this really the move?"
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Life and death.
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Oh, when the knife approached...
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It's the most troubling age, 24.
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Oh I see, thank you.
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Chuu who's this bright and lovely,
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we're curious what type of concerns you came on the show with.
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Let's meet her through the prepared video.
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[What concerns are you here for?]
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Gangnam Severance Hospital,
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I think I was going there once a month, to get an IV.
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Is she ill??
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Because my stomach was broken...
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Stomach??
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How's her stomach already broken?
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Actually,
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when I get stressed,
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For a while I ate a ton of spicy food.
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[Totally understood]
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Always 5/5 spiciness.
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Always level 5, or the spiciest flavor.
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[Do you often de-stress by eating?]
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Yes. Either spicy food, or just eating a ton.
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I eat a lot.
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[Chuu's growingly worrying concern]
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Recently, the latest thing I ate was,
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I got braised spicy chicken for 2-3 people,
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added rice cakes, Chinese glass noodles,
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A bowl of rice, and,
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it's this big, it comes in this square-ish thing, for 2-3.
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Like this big?
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I eat it all.
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It's good, doesn't take too long.
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[Serious]
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[Looking around]
If I eat once,
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it's not a satisfied fullness,
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it's like "oh, I'm full! Oh, I'm full!!"
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When I eat..!
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So I think that's why it's painful.
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I'll eat until it's up here, until it's hard to breathe.
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Just pushing it down while eating.
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I eat like that, when I get stressed.
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Eating then vomiting, I think I ate like that.
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Since I ate too much, and it's even a waste to vomit,
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but from the stress, I'd feel queasy, and it would come out.
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It has been a way for me to relieve stress.
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[Serious]
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[Anxious]
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After seeing the interview, in the case of Chuu,
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If you're going to the emergency room once a month...
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- This is... Yes.
- This is a problem.
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I've even gone with my body stiffened up.
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To the point where my hands were shaking.
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I think I was going often near the start of the year.
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Mid-last year...
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From last July until this April or May?
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Frequently, yes.
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8 months...
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8-9 months.
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Is your stomach usually on the weak side?
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Yes, since before last year, too, I de-stressed by eating,
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but I couldn't get it under control.
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If I eat until up here,
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Then I take a bunch of digestives because of that.
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Then, well-known digestives from abroad too,
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I tried taking various things like that,
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then, I started aching often.
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I'm curious,
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It's really well known that girl group members diet very hard.
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I'm thinking of the even greater stress you get after eating, then.
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Ah, I...
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On days where I feel like I ate too much,
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I don't know if I can say this, but,
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I got queasy,
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and that's happened before (vomiting).
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And actually,
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I de-stressed with this,
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but from eating I get stressed, and I need to do activities,
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so,
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There was a time when I took dieting pills,
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and those dieting pills had an effect on the mind,
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I heard that it affects your head,
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so I'd suddenly feel down,
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so I did stop taking those.
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I felt that exhaustion, and suddenly thought that it wasn't a good match for me.
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Since it's not that emotion that I needed.
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So I did stop that.
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When we get stressed, actually,
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sometimes we order food and regret it later.
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Get something really spicy, and say ohh, my stomach hurts,
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And there's a lot of people like this.
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There's a lot, but,
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this beautiful and cute girl group member Chuu,
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when she reveals that she eats until the food's up to here,
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She's brave to be appearing here right now.
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Through your bravery, this helps you too,
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but in your age group,
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when people get stressed, many people over-eat.
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But she's here to be of help for people with various difficulties.
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So we need to talk about this.
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Let's talk about it.
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People have many different ways of de-stressing.
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How do our top students de-stress?
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Stress?
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I call people over.
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I'm the type to be healed a lot by others,
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so I eat good food,
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and listen to music,
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and I listen to really powerful music, like EDM...
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[I'm jealous...]
and I listen to really powerful music, like EDM...
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I'm the type to be like that.
[I'm jealous...]
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So I just let it all out in one go.
[I'm jealous...]
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So I just let it all out in one go.
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That helps me a lot.
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[I see...]
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I just, well,
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I play games.
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I take medication first,
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I do take medication in the evening.
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I take that, and in a comfortable position, I play games a little.
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Then...
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You get sleepy?
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When I get to be like this, I just go to sleep straight away.
328
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Oh really?
329
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But when I wake up, I do feel better.
330
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Some people say that gaming is the most healthy hobby.
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Really?
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Yes, since it doesn't hurt anyone,
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so a lot of people suggested gaming.
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I'm trying to play games.
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- Oh really?
- Yes.
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It's apparently very good.. I'm intentionally trying to learn.
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From my younger brother.
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One thing I have in common with Chuu is,
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I'm proud of my spice tolerance.
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Spicy things.
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With spiciness I see things through.
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With chili peppers I even grow my own cheongyang peppers to eat.
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Since I need to have something on hand when I want to eat it,
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so I grow some on the veranda.
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so I can go at any time.
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You're farming at home~
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So I can eat it.
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So when I get stressed, say I'm angry.
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Then it feels hot here, I feel stuffy inside.
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So I eat the most spicy dish available,
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then with a hot glass of water...
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Is this not torture?
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Spicy food, then hot water?
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It's how I wrap it up.
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Let the steam out,
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and it feels like things go out with it.
357
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It feels like the heat cools off.
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[Totally sympathizes]
It feels like the heat cools off.
359
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Let's hear from Chuu then,
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How is it when you eat spicy food?
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For me,
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I don't like jjimjilbangs (Korean spas) but I do like sweating.
363
00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,430
That really gets the sweat out.
364
00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:00,740
My nose gets runny too,
365
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then I feel somewhat...
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Wow, right now is...
367
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Yeah, I feel accomplished..! When I eat spicy food.
368
00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:08,850
[Totally gets it]
369
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[Doesn't get it]
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Sometimes it's so spicy I get numb and can't think.
371
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It's like ringing in my head.
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At those times, just...
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I don't think at all, and it's fun,
374
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and I can't forget that feeling.
375
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I guess that's addicting, the food.
376
00:16:23,580 --> 00:16:29,360
Teacher, with the spicy sensation, it does feel like it's de-stressing. Is it not that?
377
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What it means, a little bit, is,
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It's a type of
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It's kind of a self-harming effect.
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[Self-harm effect?]
381
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But when someone goes through too much pain,
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Some people start hurting themselves.
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Like they'll press hard, or,
384
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or they'll cause themselves harm.
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At those times, through various mechanisms,
386
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They forget about the pain momentarily.
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Through various mechanisms.
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00:17:01,780 --> 00:17:07,470
So, if you eat things that are too spicy, it does hurt your stomach.
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We say that it tastes good,
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but later, it hurts your mucous membranes.
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Since with the pain, you forget about the stress for a moment.
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So it is a sort of self-harming effect.
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[I see...]
So it is a sort of self-harming effect.
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[I see...]
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I'm a little curious,
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Why is it food?
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How did you get so deep into food, is what I'm wondering.
398
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- Her de-stressing method?
- Rather than something else.
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For me, first, it caused the least hassle and raised my moods the fastest?
400
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Since you just need to hold up a spoon.
401
00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:48,610
So that used the least energy,
402
00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:53,900
and around last year, I didn't have any income.
403
00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:56,710
So I'd want to eat something,
404
00:17:56,710 --> 00:17:58,890
but it would cost too much..
405
00:17:58,890 --> 00:18:00,650
So that was a point of stress too,
406
00:18:00,650 --> 00:18:04,720
so rather, I ordered and ate one really spicy thing and didn't leave any leftovers.
407
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,600
So that became a habit,
408
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,740
and what I told my friends was,
409
00:18:08,740 --> 00:18:10,810
that I do "instant consolation".
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00:18:10,810 --> 00:18:12,410
They'd ask what "instant consolation" was,
411
00:18:12,410 --> 00:18:15,210
then I'd say that food cheers me up.
412
00:18:15,210 --> 00:18:16,310
Like chicken...
413
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,020
Yes, yes. That takes the least amount of time,
414
00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:22,870
and it doesn't harm anyone else,
415
00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:25,550
so I typically went for this.
416
00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:26,950
[That's a shame]
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No, but without stress, humans would lead empty lives.
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The pains of life, from the moment you open your eyes, until you fall asleep.
419
00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:37,110
Even while you're asleep, you're under constant stress.
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00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:40,320
But from person to person,
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you receive and feel it in different ways.
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00:18:42,270 --> 00:18:46,450
What isn't stressful for someone, will be for someone else.
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00:18:46,450 --> 00:18:52,690
Let's take a stress vulnerability test together,
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and have some time to think about ourselves.
425
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,440
We have a checklist prepared.
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00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,890
This stress vulnerability checklist has 7 items.
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00:19:03,890 --> 00:19:08,680
So let's count how many apply to ourselves, including Chuu.
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00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:14,080
#1. If things don't work out, you blame yourself first.
429
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,860
#2. You don't have any friends to discuss important problems with.
430
00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:24,420
#3. You can't clearly express what you want.
431
00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:30,410
#4. When completing work, you feel more relieved than accomplished.
432
00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:35,660
#5. You've given up on hobbies, due to it feeling like work.
433
00:19:35,660 --> 00:19:40,330
#6. You often hear that you have high goals.
434
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Lastly, #7. You've often been skeptical of compliments towards yourself.
435
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[#1. If things don't work out, you blame yourself first.]
[#2. You don't have any friends to discuss important problems with.]
[#3. You can't clearly express what you want.]
[#4. When completing work, you feel more relieved than accomplished.]
[#5. You've given up on hobbies, due to it feeling like work.]
[#6. You often hear that you have high goals.]
[#7. You've often been skeptical of compliments towards yourself.]
436
00:19:56,770 --> 00:19:58,620
How was that for our students?
437
00:19:58,620 --> 00:20:00,090
How many applied for you?
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For me, I've often been skeptical of compliments.
439
00:20:05,010 --> 00:20:07,770
Since I was an unknown entertainer for a long time,
440
00:20:07,770 --> 00:20:11,050
so I couldn't take compliments right away.
441
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,850
So, one thing.
442
00:20:14,020 --> 00:20:17,330
For me, I blame myself first when things don't work out.
443
00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:21,200
Then, I hear that my goals are high.
444
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,660
I think these two apply to me.
445
00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:26,060
Before, I think a lot of these applied to me.
446
00:20:26,060 --> 00:20:30,930
In my 20s, I had a lot of ambitions and was striving for those,
447
00:20:31,730 --> 00:20:33,410
I think a lot of these applied.
448
00:20:33,410 --> 00:20:38,430
In that case, that means that you've developed some strength in handling stress.
449
00:20:38,430 --> 00:20:39,690
Oh, so that can happen?
450
00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:40,440
Of course.
Oh, so that can happen?
451
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,530
Of course.
452
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:45,930
Chuu, how many applied for you?
453
00:20:45,930 --> 00:20:47,610
For me,
454
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Five or six?
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- Five to six?
- Yes, five.
456
00:20:54,630 --> 00:21:01,070
With hobbies I try to get everything done when I have days off,
457
00:21:01,070 --> 00:21:05,580
but to me at one point, a bit... Yes.
458
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It became a scheduled task.
459
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,890
Yes, it felt like work.
460
00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:09,040
On your one day off...
Yes, it felt like work.
461
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,620
Yes. On days off, I do feel like I'm stuck in place,
462
00:21:14,620 --> 00:21:17,050
And while seeing great people coming up all the time,
463
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My mindset of needing to follow along...
464
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"You're doing so great on shows right now!"
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When you hear that, are you skeptical?
466
00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:29,950
When you get compliments, are you skeptical of them?
467
00:21:32,380 --> 00:21:34,500
Yes, I figure they're just kind...
468
00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:35,920
Oh, so not genuine?
469
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,960
Oh, genuine, but just out of their kindness.
470
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:39,900
So seeing you in a more positive way?
471
00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:40,960
Yes, yes.
So seeing you in a more positive way?
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These days,
473
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people say "oh you're cute, so cute!"
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Then I just think, "Oh I'm not, are they saying this out of awkwardness?"
475
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I think things like, "oh, I've gained weight recently, though..."
476
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I'm very thankful for those words.
477
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:59,480
But you know those times,
478
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,800
After recording, sunbaenims or someone,
479
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"Chuu you did great today"
480
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,900
but even if you did well in your mind,
481
00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:10,350
do you not feel that totally when someone tells you that?
482
00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:13,990
I think of what I was lacking in more first,
483
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:16,530
So "why did I do that,"
484
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I am the type to have regrets first.
485
00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:20,210
Regrets first,
486
00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:21,950
Then, "are the compliments real?"
487
00:22:21,950 --> 00:22:23,690
"I'll have to see it on air."
488
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I'll have to see for myself.
489
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[(Yes) #7 Skeptical of compliments]
490
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If more than four of these apply to you,
491
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,340
when stress approaches me, am I on the weaker side of things?
492
00:22:36,340 --> 00:22:39,330
Am I vulnerable to stress?
493
00:22:39,330 --> 00:22:41,460
There's a need to think about these things.
494
00:22:41,460 --> 00:22:44,630
Since many of these apply to Chuu,
495
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:50,620
It is right that you are vulnerable to stress in some ways.
496
00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:57,030
But if you can't deal with the stress,
497
00:22:57,030 --> 00:23:00,270
or if you're vulnerable to it, what can occur is,
498
00:23:03,470 --> 00:23:07,130
various side-effects in your daily life.
499
00:23:07,130 --> 00:23:09,300
So with the stress you take in,
500
00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:12,150
If you try to suppress it too hard,
501
00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:17,110
it stacks and stacks, and later it explodes.
502
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:23,350
So think of a bowl that holds the stress, inside of ourselves.
503
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:27,810
So here, there are some people who can't handle even a little stress in this bowl.
504
00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:31,750
Some people have to empty the bowl immediately.
505
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:36,970
Then, since they're so busily emptying this bowl,
506
00:23:36,970 --> 00:23:43,030
they can't get a clear grasp of what exactly is causing their stress.
507
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,880
I think Chuu is a little bit like this.
508
00:23:47,590 --> 00:23:48,830
Even with a little stress,
509
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:51,840
You need to empty it quickly, there's incoming stress.
510
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760
Stress entering - let's empty it really quickly!
511
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,500
But to empty this stress out, you need to do something, but since you have no time,
512
00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,800
Since you need something quick, feel something intense,
513
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,060
Oh, spiciness.
Since you need something quick, feel something intense,
514
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,790
Yes, feeling full with spiciness.
515
00:24:04,790 --> 00:24:07,140
If you eat really fast, you feel full really fast.
516
00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:08,700
Eat hard, then,
517
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,130
"Oh I feel full..."
518
00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:12,520
Then after that, after it digests,
519
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,410
You forget about what was stressing you out.
520
00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:17,420
You're just sending it off.
521
00:24:17,420 --> 00:24:18,830
Yes, yes.
522
00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:21,060
Then the bowl does empty immediately,
523
00:24:21,810 --> 00:24:25,920
but actually, the thing that's constantly causing my stress,
524
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,410
you need to get a good look at it, and understand it properly,
525
00:24:31,410 --> 00:24:33,080
but you're not getting that far,
526
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,600
and emptying this bowl before that.
527
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,770
It feels like you're not stressed, but it happens repeatedly.
528
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:44,700
So you can't grasp the stress well,
529
00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,170
and I think you're having trouble managing it.
530
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,340
So when it's not food,
531
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,850
I've cried to de-stress too.
532
00:24:56,740 --> 00:25:00,010
"Try crying, out loud"
533
00:25:00,010 --> 00:25:01,650
It's relieving.
534
00:25:01,650 --> 00:25:03,320
Yes. "It's relieving to cry?"
535
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,790
Then, "okay, let's get all the crying out, get everything out"
536
00:25:07,790 --> 00:25:13,510
So I had 3 hours or so before the next schedule,
537
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:17,350
and I prepared to cry,
538
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:19,640
Preparing to cry.
539
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,620
Like okay, I'll try crying.
540
00:25:21,620 --> 00:25:23,930
Got all ready to sleep,
541
00:25:23,930 --> 00:25:27,370
and put my lotion on, and got in bed, and thought,
542
00:25:27,370 --> 00:25:30,730
Then the tears came out within a second.
543
00:25:30,730 --> 00:25:33,380
So with a method like that... Yes.
544
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,400
I've tried that.
545
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,220
After crying, do you feel better?
546
00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:40,190
Definitely,
547
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:42,860
rather than offloading my concerns to someone by talking with them,
548
00:25:42,860 --> 00:25:47,110
I liked that I could handle it all by myself.
549
00:25:47,860 --> 00:25:50,870
So, while following along with what others did,
550
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:54,130
Like, "oh that de-stresses? Then I'll have to try it"
551
00:25:54,130 --> 00:25:55,780
And trying games for no reason.
552
00:25:55,780 --> 00:25:58,430
For no reason, "oh I heard exercise is good for stress"
553
00:25:58,430 --> 00:26:00,130
Then, "oh, I better exercise."
554
00:26:00,130 --> 00:26:01,350
Exercise,
555
00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:04,810
but actually, I'm thinking about time.
556
00:26:04,810 --> 00:26:06,060
Right...
557
00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:08,340
I'm always doing the math.
558
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,600
That's why I don't think it was so effective.
559
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,600
That's very important. Reason being,
560
00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:21,120
Even now, about de-stressing methods,
561
00:26:21,810 --> 00:26:25,240
in your mind, you feel like you have to "do" something.
562
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,500
If you feel like you have to do something,
563
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:32,340
if you have no time, you need to resolve it quickly, and then you choose certain methods,
564
00:26:32,340 --> 00:26:34,990
like, setting up and starting to cry,
565
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:39,020
and after crying, "oh that feels great", then,
566
00:26:39,020 --> 00:26:42,000
Do that, then you return.
567
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,980
Crying from real sadness is okay.
568
00:26:44,980 --> 00:26:50,200
I think it's fine to cry for a long time if you are feeling sad.
569
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,400
And crying isn't bad either,
570
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,870
but to have a de-stressing method,
571
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:58,140
is to face the stress, and identify it.
572
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,080
You have to know why something is a source of stress,
573
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,650
so that you can handle it well.
574
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:08,010
But thinking you have to "do" something to de-stress,
575
00:27:08,010 --> 00:27:10,490
You don't have to have this "Do It!" mindset.
576
00:27:10,490 --> 00:27:14,510
Even if you aren't doing something, you can handle stress.
577
00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:19,250
I think, in Chuu's mind, you feel that you have to be "doing" something.
578
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:20,910
Yes...
579
00:27:23,260 --> 00:27:25,160
Let's talk about it, everyone.
580
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,470
For Chuu, what things cause you stress?
581
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:32,470
What are you stressed about?
582
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:36,520
It's somewhat...
583
00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:44,050
I think it's to the point where I've erased it from my memory, but,
584
00:27:44,050 --> 00:27:46,180
[What's the reason for Chuu's hesitation?]
585
00:27:47,020 --> 00:27:50,680
[When you're tired, are you the type to air it out?]
586
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,530
Basically, I don't like others knowing my concerns,
587
00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:59,600
and actually, the more exhausted I was, the higher my tone became.
588
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600
I didn't want to show it,
589
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,780
and hoped that others wouldn't realize.
590
00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:09,600
Because I thought that I couldn't get caught,
591
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,430
so I actually whipped myself into raising the mood even more.
592
00:28:14,430 --> 00:28:16,930
At times like this, I need to be more...
593
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,730
Show that I'm doing well.
594
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:22,000
Only showing my best.
595
00:28:25,090 --> 00:28:28,140
[Why do you hide your tiredness so much?]
596
00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:37,890
Because I think people think of me as someone who's always bright,
597
00:28:37,890 --> 00:28:40,220
so that's why, a bit,
598
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,140
as if nothing happened before, just doing well, the bright,
599
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:54,770
that state of Jiwoo, I felt like I had to maintain that too,
600
00:28:54,770 --> 00:28:58,180
so as much as I can, I try to never cry while outside.
601
00:29:01,770 --> 00:29:04,410
Can't get caught feeling tired?
602
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:06,430
My mind was really drawn to what you said.
603
00:29:06,430 --> 00:29:09,080
That's a shame, and I am feeling worried.
604
00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:14,530
Ah, I...
605
00:29:14,530 --> 00:29:19,800
Since I was young, it has been my dream to be a singer,
606
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:22,620
So very gratefully,
607
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:27,570
now people are recognizing me and loving me a little,
608
00:29:29,610 --> 00:29:32,700
and I very much want to maintain this.
609
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:34,350
If I could grow it I would,
610
00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:36,010
but going backwards,
611
00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:37,740
or wanting to take a break,
612
00:29:37,740 --> 00:29:40,250
things like this for me now,
613
00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:43,570
even if I couldn't sleep for a week, "that's okay!"
614
00:29:43,570 --> 00:29:47,770
then memorize lines... When I had overlapping webdrama activities too,
615
00:29:47,770 --> 00:29:49,400
even without sleep, "that's okay!"
616
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,480
I can do it, anything, I thought of this as obvious.
617
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,380
[Chuu, happy to work even if it's tiring]
618
00:29:57,970 --> 00:30:01,110
[Then how is it at home?]
619
00:30:01,810 --> 00:30:05,070
As opposed to always smiling, at home,
620
00:30:06,340 --> 00:30:08,890
If I have a vacation, I feel so lonely.
621
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,890
My feelings?
622
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:14,410
So I did have vacations,
623
00:30:14,410 --> 00:30:18,200
I did have some breaks this year.
624
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,900
But those breaks were so hard,
625
00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:23,680
I didn't know what to do,
626
00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:27,450
and I got more depressed after every hour.
627
00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:31,210
I felt that way.
628
00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:35,600
Smiling for a long time,
629
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,010
Acting so innocently like before, feels harder nowadays.
630
00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:42,450
Because I've been hurt,
631
00:30:42,450 --> 00:30:44,100
I think that was very difficult.
632
00:30:46,460 --> 00:30:50,130
[Various emotions from Chuu's honest confession]
633
00:30:50,770 --> 00:30:52,230
[Feeling awkward]
634
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,510
Actually, my emotions do change everyday,
635
00:30:59,510 --> 00:31:01,910
so when I'm briefly feeling tired,
636
00:31:01,910 --> 00:31:04,190
I do have concerns about that briefly,
637
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:08,320
and if nothing's going on, I do like being with and talking with people,
638
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,130
but I'd like to say that I'm a person who prefers being bright.
639
00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:15,040
Oh, of course.
640
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,110
Narae is so fun, but,
641
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:19,990
some days, she has days where she's feeling down too.
642
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:26,260
How can any human be bright 365 days a year, 24 hours a day?
643
00:31:26,260 --> 00:31:27,720
That's strange!
644
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,700
Yes. Humans go through various things,
645
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,240
and live with appropriate emotions from what they go through.
646
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,920
That's such a natural thing.
647
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Let's think of this.
648
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,220
Say we're at a company.
649
00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:41,850
I'm the head.
650
00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:44,160
And here's the youngest employee.
651
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,310
Say it's time to leave work.
652
00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:49,140
But the head comes up,
653
00:31:49,140 --> 00:31:52,630
and I say something bad has happened at the company.
654
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:54,080
We need to fix it.
655
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,640
So we all need to stay and work the night.
656
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,390
All of a sudden.
657
00:31:58,390 --> 00:32:02,080
20 minutes before leaving work, suddenly.
658
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,490
Chuu, if that were you, what would you do?
659
00:32:05,490 --> 00:32:08,820
Tell us how you'd typically react to this situation.
660
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,470
I think I'd die from the stuffiness...
661
00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:14,080
It's stress, right?
662
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,260
That's stress. "Oh how stressful, all of a sudden..."
663
00:32:17,260 --> 00:32:18,270
That's stress.
664
00:32:18,270 --> 00:32:20,890
Then Chuu, what would you do?
665
00:32:23,530 --> 00:32:27,320
[Curious]
666
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160
If I can finish this work quickly and leave,
667
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Family reunion, family reunion...
668
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,930
Your parents came up to meet you, and...
669
00:32:34,930 --> 00:32:36,610
They're out of batteries, you can't contact them.
670
00:32:36,610 --> 00:32:38,180
What to do..?
671
00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:40,490
Oh, this place is so...
672
00:32:40,490 --> 00:32:42,240
Oh I'm becoming a nervous wreck...
673
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,550
[She's honest]
674
00:32:43,550 --> 00:32:44,720
What to do!
675
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,210
Our company's in a very risky position.
676
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:50,170
Very dangerous situation for us.
677
00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:53,800
Right now, assistant manager Park and Lee are here, so Chuu, what are you doing?
678
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,640
Do you have any arrangements?
679
00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:58,360
Then I'll stay here...
680
00:32:58,970 --> 00:33:00,370
Of course I need to.
681
00:33:00,370 --> 00:33:02,930
Yes, then later, be sure to diligently take the calls.
682
00:33:02,930 --> 00:33:04,020
Yes.
683
00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:06,610
Now why we took this example was,
684
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:10,430
because Chuu doesn't want to show that she's tired.
685
00:33:10,430 --> 00:33:12,870
It's because that was really stuck in my mind.
686
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:16,140
These situations really are stressful.
687
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:17,190
It's stressful.
688
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:24,260
And it's okay to express the fact that you're stressed, when you're stressed.
689
00:33:24,260 --> 00:33:26,520
- It is, isn't it?
- Yes, it is!
690
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,430
Since it's the time to show it.
691
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:27,890
Of course. You're being put in a tough spot,
Since it's the time to show it.
692
00:33:27,890 --> 00:33:30,690
Of course. You're being put in a tough spot,
693
00:33:30,690 --> 00:33:32,550
and I'm saying it's okay to express that.
694
00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:36,750
I think for us, our culture can't handle grumbling.
695
00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:38,550
[It does tend to be like that]
696
00:33:38,550 --> 00:33:40,120
You can grumble.
697
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,980
Oh, I'd like for the company to do well too, but,
698
00:33:41,980 --> 00:33:44,650
this is bewildering, all of a sudden.
699
00:33:44,650 --> 00:33:47,510
Because you say these things,
700
00:33:47,510 --> 00:33:50,130
because you express dissatisfaction,
701
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:52,920
nothing big happens from that.
702
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,190
So how to handle this in a better way would be,
703
00:33:56,190 --> 00:33:59,810
Oh, it would've been nice if you told me in advance, there would've been no issue.
704
00:33:59,810 --> 00:34:03,210
But this is all so sudden, so I'm taken aback too.
705
00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:03,260
But what can you do?
706
00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:04,660
[1. Plainly state your feelings]
But what can you do?
707
00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:08,150
If the company requires it, I'll do what I can too.
[1. Plainly state your feelings]
708
00:34:08,150 --> 00:34:09,630
If something really must be resolved, it could be done late into the night too.
[1. Plainly state your feelings]
709
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:13,200
If something really must be resolved, it could be done late into the night too.
710
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,950
So I'll meet my arrangement and return.
711
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:16,000
I'll be back after meeting them briefly.
712
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,690
[2. Offer an alternative]
I'll be back after meeting them briefly.
713
00:34:16,690 --> 00:34:18,870
You can decide to do that,
[2. Offer an alternative]
714
00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:19,090
You can decide to do that,
715
00:34:19,090 --> 00:34:21,020
but during all of that,
716
00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:26,510
you're the type who doesn't want to express difficulty even in stressful situations.
717
00:34:26,510 --> 00:34:28,820
So for example, Chuu could be like this:
718
00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:32,670
Oh, of course, I need to stay!
719
00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:38,080
If you're like this, the real emotions you're feeling
720
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,150
I'm saying that you're feeling exposed when expressing such things.
721
00:34:41,150 --> 00:34:42,220
Yes, yes.
722
00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:43,880
I think you need to think carefully about this.
723
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,440
But I could receive disdain for that,
724
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,080
I don't want that, so,
725
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,650
There have been people like that before. There were,
726
00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:56,010
but even if it wasn't towards me,
727
00:34:56,010 --> 00:34:58,980
hearing it, I couldn't help but to take note.
728
00:34:58,980 --> 00:35:01,530
Oh, let's hear about this, I think this is very important.
729
00:35:01,530 --> 00:35:02,610
Let's hear about this.
730
00:35:02,610 --> 00:35:05,110
For example in a certain situation,
731
00:35:05,110 --> 00:35:07,020
"Agh, where is it??"
732
00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:10,240
If someone grumbles something like that,
733
00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:13,040
I'll just lend my own things.
734
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,030
"Want mine?"
735
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:16,700
Like this, I think I tend to do that.
736
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,700
Because that situation itself,
737
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:23,510
I think it's most important to resolve these situations before moving on.
738
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:28,390
So everyone's feeling better, removing problems.
739
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:31,270
Have you always been like this? Or is this after joining a girl group?
740
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:36,960
Have you changed a little from your environment, or have you always kind of been like this?
741
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:41,110
I think I've just been like this since I was young.
742
00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:42,190
Just...
743
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,420
Yes, I've been like that, I think.
744
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:48,060
For example, at school,
745
00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:51,970
I was waiting for a bus with friends on our way to get food.
746
00:35:51,970 --> 00:35:53,670
"Agh the bus is gonna be here in 15 minutes!"
747
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:56,070
Someone said that once.
748
00:35:56,070 --> 00:35:58,610
"Agh and it's so hot outside..."
749
00:35:58,610 --> 00:36:00,790
So I quickly looked at the bus schedule,
750
00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:02,580
"oh it'll be here in some number of minutes,"
751
00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:04,810
"but if we walk a little, there's a bus over there."
752
00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:05,760
"Should we take that bus?"
753
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Being like that, for me,
754
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,630
- Does it set you at ease?
- Yes, it puts me at ease.
755
00:36:11,630 --> 00:36:14,280
Grasping the situation is important,
756
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,730
because I don't want to hurt anyone,
757
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
so it ends up being like that.
758
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,060
One very important thing here is,
759
00:36:22,060 --> 00:36:25,910
When someone's like "oh why's it like this! How bothersome!"
760
00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:27,320
These feelings belong to whom?
761
00:36:28,190 --> 00:36:29,950
That person.
762
00:36:29,950 --> 00:36:32,210
How come you're so anxious about that?
763
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:33,400
When they're theirs?
764
00:36:35,630 --> 00:36:41,010
While being in this situation, in case those sparks start flying,
765
00:36:41,010 --> 00:36:43,350
or the situation could make people feel worse,
766
00:36:43,350 --> 00:36:45,350
and I'll feel bad about it too.
767
00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:49,650
So I think it's something to resolve together.
768
00:36:49,650 --> 00:36:51,320
For me too,
769
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,350
Say Narae is a friend here,
770
00:36:55,350 --> 00:36:58,200
and she's like "how come there's no pencil here?!"
771
00:36:59,020 --> 00:37:01,070
I just don't like this air.
772
00:37:01,070 --> 00:37:03,210
Ah, yes. I've been like that since grade school.
773
00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:04,440
Yes, so,
774
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,740
That air.
775
00:37:05,740 --> 00:37:11,980
Moving beyond the discomfort that that person is giving me,
776
00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:13,240
I just don't like that air.
777
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:13,680
Yes, yes, yes.
I just don't like that air.
778
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,070
Yes, yes, yes.
779
00:37:15,070 --> 00:37:20,240
With this, what many people misunderstand about empathy is,
780
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,260
to feel empathetic,
781
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:26,200
people think their feelings must be identical to the other person's.
782
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,950
What empathy is,
783
00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:32,980
Empathy isn't telling someone that your emotions are identical to theirs,
784
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,180
rather, it's about the fact that you understand this person's feelings.
785
00:37:39,070 --> 00:37:40,720
Then, for example,
786
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,640
Say someone says, "oh, how bothersome!"
787
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,970
Then, seeing that, "ah, so this person's bothered by something missing."
788
00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:47,820
[Just understanding their feelings is okay]
789
00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:49,400
But that person's a sunbae.
[Just understanding their feelings is okay]
790
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,570
In that case,
791
00:37:50,570 --> 00:37:53,900
"Oh, are you bothered by something missing? Should I bring that up?"
792
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:55,670
That's cooperation.
793
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:57,860
You're cooperating.
794
00:37:57,860 --> 00:37:59,430
But Chuu,
795
00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:00,930
When you hear "how bothersome!"
796
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:02,520
"Oh I'll give you mine."
797
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,090
You're trying to resolve this person's emotions.
798
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,270
You take in their emotions like a wet blanket.
799
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:10,450
They become your own emotions.
800
00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:13,530
You're resolving everything, like "oh hey hey,"
801
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:20,260
I guess that's why I avoid group gatherings.
802
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:23,800
It's already tiring, since it's clear that I'll be seeing how others are doing.
803
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,860
Right...
804
00:38:24,860 --> 00:38:27,770
So when I meet friends, it's once in half a year,
805
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:28,960
With one person.
806
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,270
My friends are all so nice, but,
807
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:32,860
- Just...
- On your own.
808
00:38:32,860 --> 00:38:33,630
Yes, just on my own, somewhat...
809
00:38:33,630 --> 00:38:35,270
[Got used to seeing how others are doing]
Yes, just on my own, somewhat...
810
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:37,280
[Got used to seeing how others are doing]
811
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,070
I think I really wanted to make others happy.
812
00:38:40,070 --> 00:38:44,490
Through me, the time this person and I have to hang out has to be fun.
813
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:49,190
So when 5 people gather, I see how all 5 are doing,
814
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:51,980
- Everyone?
- What do you want to eat? And you? And you?
815
00:38:51,980 --> 00:38:56,530
I ask and try to take the lead, I've been like that.
816
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,390
So, whether it's your emotions or someone else's,
817
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:04,810
Negative and uncomfortable emotions,
818
00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:10,430
you're struggling a lot with seeing that.
819
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,550
In reality, there are times when you're not clear about how you're feeling yourself,
820
00:39:17,550 --> 00:39:21,350
while you've been you've been eating and crying, unable to manage your own feelings,
821
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:31,190
You're very focused on the emotions of others, and these are outside your control.
822
00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:35,910
Since I get over my stress by doing this, by resolving things.
823
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:38,230
So I think that's why I'm like this.
824
00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:41,870
If I do this, will this resolve it for them too?
825
00:39:41,870 --> 00:39:43,050
That could be the case.
826
00:39:43,050 --> 00:39:46,530
Regardless, if you could push that back a little,
827
00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:49,780
Holding onto those uncomfortable emotions a little,
828
00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:53,270
one needs to learn to process those emotions properly,
829
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:54,750
If you don't learn this,
830
00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:59,510
you won't be able to handle even a little bit of that uncomfortable emotion in that bowl.
831
00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:04,590
I think there's a bit of that. But not just your own, you can't handle other's dealing with it either.
832
00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:05,940
That seems to be so.
833
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:07,890
So you're trying to resolve things for them.
834
00:40:08,810 --> 00:40:10,100
Resolving for them.
835
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:11,330
I wonder why?
836
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:16,400
With that, if I try thinking about it,
837
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,450
I think being the oldest- I'm the oldest daughter.
838
00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:22,330
And with a large age difference,
839
00:40:22,330 --> 00:40:25,790
Honestly, I do have a sense of responsibility.
840
00:40:27,330 --> 00:40:29,420
"You have to take care of your younger siblings well"
841
00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:31,310
Honestly I've heard that a lot too.
842
00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:32,110
Things like this, yes.
843
00:40:32,110 --> 00:40:32,960
But I definitely don't dislike this.
Things like this, yes.
844
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,470
But I definitely don't dislike this.
845
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:41,220
Since doing this work too, it's to live well with my family,
846
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:43,090
there is a bit of that, so,
847
00:40:45,020 --> 00:40:48,520
Who am I to... Like this...
848
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,860
Yes. There's a little bit of that mindset.
849
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:54,140
Do you think that if you say you're tired,
850
00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:56,920
that you won't be able to work?
851
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,550
Thinking, "you're on your way to accomplishing what you've been working hard towards,"
852
00:41:01,550 --> 00:41:04,080
So to the people who are liking me,
853
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
I need to keep putting my best foot forward,
854
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,660
But it's somewhat like I'm... Yes.
855
00:41:10,660 --> 00:41:13,690
I want to keep doing it, so I think I'm dragging it along.
856
00:41:13,690 --> 00:41:16,110
I still have family too.
857
00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:20,120
Seeing it one way, as you're the oldest daughter,
858
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,390
the environment, always having to take care of your younger siblings,
859
00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:25,210
I think you've grown very used to that.
860
00:41:25,210 --> 00:41:27,460
That's fairly typical,
861
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:29,560
but while living a life in entertainment scene,
862
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,890
it hasn't been long since you've started, and you're young,
863
00:41:31,890 --> 00:41:35,880
You've wanted to do this so much, while constantly worrying...
864
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,360
Being very conscious of others,
865
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,450
being worried about things,
866
00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:41,060
you must've been feeling so troubled.
867
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:44,980
So I think these aspects have gotten more intense.
868
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,020
It's not just Chuu,
869
00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:50,970
but the youth these days,
870
00:41:50,970 --> 00:41:53,570
in this competitive society,
871
00:41:53,570 --> 00:41:54,740
seeing it one way,
872
00:41:54,740 --> 00:41:59,010
if I'm not constantly showing my skills, that I can do it,
873
00:41:59,010 --> 00:42:01,370
it's somewhat like losing in the competition,
874
00:42:01,370 --> 00:42:05,330
and the anxiety, feeling that you won't get a good opportunity,
875
00:42:05,330 --> 00:42:08,140
so when they're tired, sad, or burdened,
876
00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:10,830
people try excessively hard to not show it.
877
00:42:10,830 --> 00:42:13,850
This is called "smile mask syndrome"
878
00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:16,410
Very many people go through this.
879
00:42:16,670 --> 00:42:17,870
Everyone's like,
880
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:21,700
smiling - as if wearing a smiling mask.
881
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:23,600
It's a bit compulsive.
882
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,680
I "have" to be like this all the time.
883
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,810
I have to show myself being bright, innocent, and happy.
884
00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:32,430
It's a little compulsive.
885
00:42:32,430 --> 00:42:35,160
Behind this compulsion is an uneasiness,
886
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,820
this underlying uneasiness being,
887
00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:41,520
If people see me being exhausted, will it have a negative effect on me?
888
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,750
What happens if I lose in this race?
889
00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:45,490
Thinking of things like this.
890
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:50,640
Here's a 7-item smile mask syndrome checklist.
891
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,170
Please count along.
892
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:57,210
1. You often hear that you seem like you haven't a concern in the world.
893
00:42:58,170 --> 00:43:02,330
2. When talking about something difficult, you start smiling without realizing.
894
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:08,030
3. When an angering situation comes up, you cool down on your own.
895
00:43:09,050 --> 00:43:13,560
4. You've often apologized, even if you've done nothing wrong.
896
00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:24,860
5. You feel uneasy in conversations, for fear of someone knowing your inner feelings
6. After meeting up with someone, you feel exhausted once you get home
7. You can't finish a movie due to lack of focus
897
00:43:24,860 --> 00:43:26,700
Of the seven items,
898
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,530
If more than four apply,
899
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:31,090
you have some signs of smile mask syndrome, so
900
00:43:31,090 --> 00:43:35,330
it's recommended that you consult someone regarding this for direct help.
901
00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:36,740
How many applied for you?
902
00:43:36,740 --> 00:43:38,700
For me, around five.
903
00:43:39,380 --> 00:43:41,930
Which one did you agree with the most?
904
00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:45,720
For me, smiling when I talk about difficult things.
905
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:50,070
"Oh I'm full, oh I'm full!" I eat like that.
906
00:43:50,070 --> 00:43:51,700
When I eat..!
907
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:55,510
After eating like that for a year, I felt like it would be the end of me.
908
00:43:58,460 --> 00:44:03,310
And, I've often apologized even while I had done nothing wrong.
909
00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:06,620
"Could you do this for me, by chance?"
910
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:09,820
When I say this, fearing that my inner feelings will be found out,
911
00:44:09,820 --> 00:44:12,540
I do get anxious, so I don't say anything, or,
912
00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:14,200
I smile really widely, and then,
913
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,090
"Oh could you do this for me by chance?"
914
00:44:16,090 --> 00:44:17,100
so I'll talk like this?
915
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,540
[Tends to exaggerate to be more bright]
so I'll talk like this?
916
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:19,610
[Tends to exaggerate to be more bright]
917
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:23,760
How many did the others have?
918
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,190
I think I used to have smile mask syndrome.
919
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:28,730
I'm much better now.
920
00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:32,550
Much better, but what still remains is,
921
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:34,830
Smiling without realizing when talking about difficult things.
922
00:44:36,910 --> 00:44:41,220
If Dr. Oh was here when I was 24...
923
00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:44,320
I wouldn't have had to do so much trial and error...
924
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,310
Honestly while hearing Chuu today,
925
00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:50,900
I could see my 20s flashing by, so much.
926
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:52,100
How were Park-Chuu's 20s?
927
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:53,120
Park-Chuu's 20s were...
928
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,780
I was the oldest daughter too. My parents were outside Seoul,
929
00:44:56,780 --> 00:45:00,090
and for a comedian, I debuted early.
930
00:45:00,090 --> 00:45:01,510
I "really" wanted to do well.
931
00:45:01,510 --> 00:45:03,380
I had a lot of ambition.
932
00:45:03,380 --> 00:45:06,770
So, I tried so hard to do well.
933
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:09,700
Even if I was tired, I couldn't show it,
934
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:11,270
when I had already come this far.
935
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:14,950
While others are trying 7, 8 times,
936
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:17,420
"You got lucky to stand on the comedian's stage"
937
00:45:17,420 --> 00:45:20,110
"But you're saying that you're tired of it?"
938
00:45:20,110 --> 00:45:22,520
I had thoughts of that being foolish.
939
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,520
So, I'm not like this now, but before, even while passing by,
940
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,050
there were many people who thoughtlessly said things.
941
00:45:29,050 --> 00:45:31,420
"Oh are you not going to be on 'Gag Concert'? It's boring!"
942
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:33,130
There were people like that.
943
00:45:33,130 --> 00:45:35,220
Then, at the time,
944
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:39,430
"Oh~ I'm preparing a new segment, it'll be funny!"
945
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:41,000
I behaved like that.
946
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:41,920
Really pouring it out.
947
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,340
Pouring it out, and,
Really pouring it out.
948
00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:43,040
Pouring it out, and,
949
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:49,200
Well, in my head, I had so many thoughts like "I can't be shaken from things like that"
950
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,120
but at a certain point, it was just so exhausting.
951
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,610
For me, the physical symptoms hit me so hard.
952
00:45:57,710 --> 00:46:00,080
My skin got much worse,
953
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,930
"Oh, I can't live like this"
954
00:46:01,930 --> 00:46:05,100
About unfair and unpleasant things,
955
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:07,790
I'd have to point these things out clearly.
956
00:46:07,790 --> 00:46:11,260
Since I always smiled, people didn't realize that I was being hurt!
957
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:12,190
Right...
958
00:46:12,190 --> 00:46:13,630
So if someone called me ugly,
959
00:46:13,630 --> 00:46:15,270
"Oh~ but still~"
960
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:17,600
With that, I thought people understood.
961
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,610
So I thought, "oh they'll get it", but,
962
00:46:21,610 --> 00:46:23,310
with just that, they definitely won't.
963
00:46:23,310 --> 00:46:27,810
"Oh, hearing things like that makes me feel kinda bad"
964
00:46:27,810 --> 00:46:30,910
You need to be specific with your wording when saying that,
965
00:46:30,910 --> 00:46:32,560
for them to realize.
966
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:37,340
So while seeing Chuu smiling when talking about difficult things,
967
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:39,970
It hurt so much to see.
968
00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:41,970
It's okay...
969
00:46:42,970 --> 00:46:44,870
I see... Okay.
970
00:46:44,870 --> 00:46:48,560
But like Chuu, youth these days,
971
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,760
compared to our generation, there's much fewer opportunities for work.
972
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,620
To young workers these days, thrown into a world of competition and results,
973
00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:01,990
it's an often-seen phenomenon of stress.
974
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:04,960
Yes. And in real-world research,
975
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,240
they found that it affects 4 out of 10 workers. Almost half.
976
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:13,430
Almost half of people exhibit this.
977
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:16,220
More people than you might expect are struggling with this.
978
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:17,790
I think that's the same with Chuu.
979
00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:23,250
Always showing your good side, innocent and bright, making others happy.
980
00:47:23,250 --> 00:47:24,720
Like what we call the "happy-virus".
981
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,930
Where only the "me" that shows that, seems like the real "me".
982
00:47:28,930 --> 00:47:33,830
And if I'm not showing that, it feels like I'll fall behind in the race.
983
00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:36,530
If you have lots of thoughts like this,
984
00:47:36,530 --> 00:47:40,460
this becomes a very big symptom of stress.
985
00:47:40,460 --> 00:47:41,420
Right...
986
00:47:42,450 --> 00:47:47,210
As you live life, it's not the case that you encounter only good things.
987
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:50,920
Unexpected, undesirable things occur.
988
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,010
When feeling too exhausted or wronged,
989
00:47:54,010 --> 00:47:55,530
Oh, just...
990
00:47:55,530 --> 00:47:58,750
"Should I just end it all" - some people even think like this.
991
00:47:58,750 --> 00:47:59,560
Right...
992
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,940
When you're feeling that exhausted, Chuu, what do you do?
993
00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:07,180
Who do you meet up with, who do you share these feelings with?
994
00:48:12,030 --> 00:48:15,320
Before, I didn't-- couldn't deal with it at all.
995
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,160
I couldn't cry either,
996
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,360
I couldn't go outside either,
997
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,360
I couldn't go get fresh air,
998
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:25,100
I didn't think I could call someone on the phone either, thinking it would be too loud.
999
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,700
I just closed my eyes really tightly,
1000
00:48:30,830 --> 00:48:34,420
and slept, to sweep that day away.
1001
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,130
What about your mom, or family?
1002
00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:42,520
As I've only started doing that recently...
1003
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,540
Before that, was there a reason for it being difficult to talk with your mom?
1004
00:48:48,010 --> 00:48:49,240
[Focused]
1005
00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:58,580
I thought that there was a big problem in my life,
1006
00:48:58,580 --> 00:48:59,750
I told her the problem.
1007
00:48:59,750 --> 00:49:04,190
"I think this is a problem, what do you think?" To my family.
1008
00:49:04,190 --> 00:49:07,990
But she actually said to endure it,
1009
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:10,570
since it was for my sake too, telling me to endure it.
1010
00:49:11,550 --> 00:49:17,310
Even if there's emotional or external damage, to hang in there.
1011
00:49:17,310 --> 00:49:21,730
But I had experience getting exhausted after enduring that for months,
1012
00:49:21,730 --> 00:49:24,790
so after she told me to endure that, I didn't talk with my mom for 6 months.
1013
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:27,430
Because I was so tired, I didn't contact her.
1014
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:29,370
Because I didn't think she understood.
1015
00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:29,950
So you felt disappointed...
1016
00:49:29,950 --> 00:49:31,120
Yes, something felt off, but,
So you felt disappointed...
1017
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,360
Yes, something felt off, but,
1018
00:49:33,130 --> 00:49:34,730
Really, just,
1019
00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:36,780
I was so upset, so,
1020
00:49:42,330 --> 00:49:43,540
I just,
1021
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,000
I just said I was so exhausted.
1022
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:53,620
Just a moment...
1023
00:50:03,220 --> 00:50:06,920
[Times when it was hard enduring by oneself]
1024
00:50:10,130 --> 00:50:11,740
Thank you...
1025
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,200
[Hidden behind the bright expression, nights spent with tears]
1026
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,170
This is from the past, and I'm really fine now, but,
[Hidden behind the bright expression, nights spent with tears]
1027
00:50:20,170 --> 00:50:21,640
[Hidden behind the bright expression, nights spent with tears]
1028
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:24,250
but with that,
1029
00:50:24,250 --> 00:50:26,220
there were lots of things going on.
1030
00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:29,010
Hard things that came at once,
1031
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:32,410
I don't think I knew any methods for that.
1032
00:50:32,410 --> 00:50:36,030
Since at the time, it was early after debut, so the time we were allowed to be outside,
1033
00:50:36,030 --> 00:50:39,100
We were allowed to be outside for maybe 20 minutes?
1034
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:40,800
Not over an hour.
1035
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,130
So I really wanted to go outside to get some fresh air,
1036
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:49,350
If I didn't get some air at the time,
1037
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:55,300
At the time...
1038
00:50:55,300 --> 00:50:56,540
It was really hard.
1039
00:50:56,540 --> 00:50:58,540
I see.
1040
00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:02,650
[Weather of the mind that should've been "always sunny"]
1041
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:05,820
[Became an arid desert after a point]
1042
00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:10,230
Feeling exhausted when you encounter a hard situation,
1043
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:11,790
that's an obvious thing.
1044
00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:15,870
In fact, it's strange to not show that.
1045
00:51:15,870 --> 00:51:19,010
So, no one will say anything to Chuu about that.
1046
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,270
I want for Chuu feel more comfortable,
1047
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:26,660
to feel and express more natural emotions,
1048
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:32,490
so that you can better do the work that you want, for a longer time.
1049
00:51:34,210 --> 00:51:37,370
[Warm advice from Dr. Oh for Chuu]
1050
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,440
As we live our lives, we wear social masks.
1051
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,260
Right.
1052
00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:47,070
By social masks, I don't mean that we're tricking people,
1053
00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:49,340
or putting on a face,
1054
00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:53,430
but sometimes, while in a role, or in a position,
1055
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:56,430
we act one way, react, and so on,
1056
00:51:56,430 --> 00:51:59,640
and in other times, we act in another way.
1057
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,570
For example, let's say Yoonji
1058
00:52:01,570 --> 00:52:05,190
with Yoonji, here recording this show today,
1059
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:09,370
compared to the mother who washes and feeds her kids,
1060
00:52:09,370 --> 00:52:10,990
they're absolutely not the same.
1061
00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:14,780
You could never wash and feed your kids dressed like this.
1062
00:52:14,780 --> 00:52:16,570
With that hair and makeup...
1063
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,160
I got home with makeup on, and my second child,
1064
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,280
"mom, why are you like that?"
1065
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,260
She thought it was a totally different mask..!
1066
00:52:25,260 --> 00:52:26,400
She was so shocked.
1067
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,670
Did she try to take it off?
1068
00:52:28,330 --> 00:52:29,890
I guess I seem that different.
1069
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:31,060
[Her daughter Soul is cute]
1070
00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:32,430
We actually call this "multi-persona"
[Her daughter Soul is cute]
1071
00:52:32,430 --> 00:52:34,770
We actually call this "multi-persona"
1072
00:52:34,770 --> 00:52:37,530
The "me" that I see when I'm alone,
1073
00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:43,300
is never a 100% match with how others perceive me.
1074
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:45,650
So it just says we have many sides of ourselves.
1075
00:52:45,650 --> 00:52:49,940
So, with this range of personas,
1076
00:52:49,940 --> 00:52:51,590
With the many situations we face,
1077
00:52:51,590 --> 00:52:54,850
we need to react to them in a more comfortable way for ourselves,
1078
00:52:54,850 --> 00:52:56,840
for us to be healthy.
1079
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,290
In a very positive way, it's like camouflage.
1080
00:53:00,290 --> 00:53:04,130
When I'm in a social environment, meeting various people,
1081
00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:08,160
it's camouflage, it protects me.
1082
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,230
We call these things social masks.
1083
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,840
But with Chuu here,
1084
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,990
You only have a single social mask.
1085
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:18,800
Just one.
1086
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,660
Yes, you only have one social mask.
1087
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:23,590
The bright, innocent,
1088
00:53:23,590 --> 00:53:28,270
always high-energy, happy-virus side of yourself, just that one.
1089
00:53:28,270 --> 00:53:33,080
But there are times where that social mask won't work.
1090
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,190
But while living with just that one mask,
1091
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:37,690
and, if you lower that mask,
1092
00:53:37,690 --> 00:53:44,200
there's a fear of losing everything you've built up so far, or it falling apart.
1093
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,100
- That sounds nerve-wracking.
- Yes, it is.
1094
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:50,380
If I even slightly show myself being tired,
1095
00:53:50,380 --> 00:53:54,570
"What if all my fans, who have loved my bright side, leave?"
1096
00:53:54,570 --> 00:53:56,660
One can develop fears like this.
1097
00:53:57,750 --> 00:54:03,390
I guess it's because I want to always show my bright-- a good side, and make them happy.
1098
00:54:03,390 --> 00:54:04,930
It's me being greedy.
1099
00:54:04,930 --> 00:54:08,840
So, I think, the many emotions inside Chuu,
1100
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,240
the negative emotions that any human would naturally feel,
1101
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:15,840
You can be angry, upset, or despondent,
1102
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,680
you can feel sad, or down.
1103
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,160
These are such obvious things.
1104
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,970
So, relax a little and feel these things,
1105
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:29,630
and when you're alone, I think it would be good to try something like self-discomfort theater.
1106
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:31,040
It's doing this when you're alone:
1107
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,200
Richard Stephens, a British psychologist,
1108
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:43,270
said that swearing very freely greatly assists in relaxing mental pain.
1109
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:45,710
Certainly not towards someone else, but,
1110
00:54:45,710 --> 00:54:48,940
But by oneself, it's so bad.
1111
00:54:48,940 --> 00:54:50,850
So those grandmas that swear a ton...
1112
00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:52,540
They live long lives!
1113
00:54:52,540 --> 00:54:55,030
[Secret for the swearing grandmas' long lives (laugh)]
1114
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:56,010
Same as they were 10, 20 years ago!
[Secret for the swearing grandmas' long lives (laugh)]
1115
00:54:56,010 --> 00:54:56,510
Same as they were 10, 20 years ago!
1116
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:57,580
[Maintaining youth]
Same as they were 10, 20 years ago!
1117
00:54:57,580 --> 00:54:58,650
Right!
[Maintaining youth]
1118
00:54:58,650 --> 00:55:00,090
[Maintaining youth]
1119
00:55:00,090 --> 00:55:02,090
"You rotten little!"
1120
00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:04,590
With this great tip,
1121
00:55:04,590 --> 00:55:05,530
For real...
With this great tip,
1122
00:55:05,530 --> 00:55:08,320
Here, just go all out, and...
1123
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,660
Agh, "fudge..."
1124
00:55:09,660 --> 00:55:10,630
[Narae's hard-hitting example]
1125
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:12,630
You really need to go hard on that consonant sound.
[Narae's hard-hitting example]
1126
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:13,070
You really need to go hard on that consonant sound.
1127
00:55:13,070 --> 00:55:14,350
agh "fffffudge..!"
1128
00:55:14,350 --> 00:55:15,660
Fffudge..!
1129
00:55:15,660 --> 00:55:16,580
There you go!
1130
00:55:16,580 --> 00:55:16,950
Like that?
There you go!
1131
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:17,560
Like that?
1132
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,670
Is this allowed to be on TV?
1133
00:55:18,670 --> 00:55:20,490
What's wrong with fudge?
1134
00:55:20,490 --> 00:55:21,680
It is relieving.
1135
00:55:23,330 --> 00:55:24,710
- Is it?
- Yes.
1136
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:25,610
[Cools down inside]
1137
00:55:25,610 --> 00:55:26,770
Like that.
[Cools down inside]
1138
00:55:27,850 --> 00:55:34,180
With a mother's heart, Dr. Oh, for Chuu, yes...
1139
00:55:34,180 --> 00:55:36,590
Yes, really with a mother's heart.
1140
00:55:36,590 --> 00:55:40,530
So there's something I really wanted to tell Chuu.
1141
00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:42,530
Just from a mom's heart.
1142
00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:44,640
Chuu,
1143
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,310
At your age, you experience many things.
1144
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:54,690
You can't do everything well, all the time.
1145
00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:59,590
As they say, mistakes and failures will become your foundation.
1146
00:55:59,590 --> 00:56:01,720
You don't need to be so scared.
1147
00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:04,330
When you're exhausted, you can say so.
1148
00:56:06,070 --> 00:56:08,800
Our Chuu is Chuu even when you're tired,
1149
00:56:09,730 --> 00:56:11,550
you're still Chuu when you're doing well,
1150
00:56:11,550 --> 00:56:14,610
At times, even when you shed tears, you're Chuu,
1151
00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:19,520
You'll always be Chuu.
1152
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,990
That doesn't change who you are.
1153
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:27,070
So, don't be afraid of the fans that love you leaving,
1154
00:56:27,070 --> 00:56:30,090
for you showing many sides of yourself.
1155
00:56:30,090 --> 00:56:33,820
Your fans will like the more human Chuu even more.
1156
00:56:35,050 --> 00:56:36,100
Okay.
1157
00:56:39,370 --> 00:56:40,610
Thank you.
1158
00:56:43,410 --> 00:56:46,300
Letting out my concerns itself, actually,
1159
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,690
I was worried about it, but,
1160
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,400
The things I had ignored while living my life,
1161
00:56:55,570 --> 00:57:00,850
I see them again, and I think I need to try resolving them too.
1162
00:57:00,850 --> 00:57:02,490
For our Chuu,
1163
00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:06,600
This was a very big challenge for her, to appear on this show.
1164
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,040
I think it required a lot of courage.
1165
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,830
So Chuu, who bravely did this,
1166
00:57:12,830 --> 00:57:17,080
you've already taken a step forward today.
1167
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,130
Golden Clinic's finale.
1168
00:57:23,130 --> 00:57:24,930
It's "Eunyoung's Magic Time."
1169
00:57:24,930 --> 00:57:29,160
The sparkling magic to bestow onto client Chuu.
1170
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,390
Eunyoung magic's coming, we'll put it on you.
1171
00:57:33,110 --> 00:57:37,160
Protect Jiwoo.
[T/N: Based on the Korean title for Chuu Can Do It]
1172
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,220
Okay!
1173
00:57:39,070 --> 00:57:40,100
Tada!
1174
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:42,950
You got this made yourself??
1175
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,080
Oh we're not selling them--
1176
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,420
[Cushions are not for sale]
Oh we're not selling them--
1177
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:48,850
Oh, thank you so much!
1178
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,190
It's one of a kind.
1179
00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:53,740
Chuu is...
1180
00:57:53,740 --> 00:58:00,350
You're the best at expressing yourself, just the way you are.
1181
00:58:00,350 --> 00:58:02,230
You don't need to bother with it too much.
1182
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:04,090
No matter what happens,
1183
00:58:04,090 --> 00:58:06,800
If you've done your best,
1184
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,890
Life will go on.
1185
00:58:08,890 --> 00:58:11,870
I hope that Jiwoo can protect Chuu well.
1186
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,890
Thank you.
1187
00:58:15,890 --> 00:58:17,720
Having done this together today,
1188
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,510
How do you feel after talking with Dr. Oh?
1189
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:25,900
I really feel like I've gotten a solution,
1190
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:28,320
I've been curious about how to fix this.
1191
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,690
But you've taught me a lot,
1192
00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:33,600
and embraced me the way that I am,
1193
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,770
and understood me,
1194
00:58:34,770 --> 00:58:36,510
and told me to love that,
1195
00:58:36,510 --> 00:58:40,400
so I'll also try hard to be happy, as myself.
1196
00:58:41,310 --> 00:58:42,940
Thank you.
She's so good with words.
1197
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:48,910
Everyone! We'll satisfyingly resolve any of your concerns.
1198
00:58:48,910 --> 00:58:51,400
Please visit Oh Eunyoung's "Golden Clinic" often!
1199
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,030
Come visit!
1200
00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:00,480
[Let's always protect Chuu]
[Chuu can do it / Protect Jiwoo]
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