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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,379 --> 00:00:19,428 [Music] 2 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:24,359 you 3 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,539 you 4 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:42,840 [Music] 5 00:00:55,119 --> 00:01:07,120 [Music] 6 00:01:09,349 --> 00:01:15,199 until the current period our until alas 7 00:01:11,989 --> 00:01:18,048 to the years it was conventional wisdom 8 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:22,129 both in science and theology were alone 9 00:01:18,049 --> 00:01:25,820 in the universe the whole single 10 00:01:22,129 --> 00:01:32,030 repository of life anywhere in the known 11 00:01:25,819 --> 00:01:35,329 universe well no one believes that in 12 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:37,478 1961 astronomer and astrophysicist dr. 13 00:01:35,329 --> 00:01:40,459 Frank Drake devised the Drake Equation 14 00:01:37,478 --> 00:01:42,469 which calculates the number of worlds 15 00:01:40,459 --> 00:01:45,969 with intelligent life capable of 16 00:01:42,469 --> 00:01:48,259 technologically communicating with us 17 00:01:45,969 --> 00:01:50,060 according to Drake's own calculations 18 00:01:48,259 --> 00:01:53,679 there are 10,000 communicative 19 00:01:50,060 --> 00:01:56,600 civilizations in the Milky Way galaxy 20 00:01:53,679 --> 00:01:58,789 for decades later the Drake Equation has 21 00:01:56,599 --> 00:02:01,219 been greatly expanded on by dr. Emir 22 00:01:58,789 --> 00:02:02,840 Excel best-selling author and associate 23 00:02:01,219 --> 00:02:05,959 professor of mathematics and statistics 24 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:08,750 at Bentley College Massachusetts his 25 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:11,389 latest book probability one deals with 26 00:02:08,750 --> 00:02:13,129 why there must be intelligent life in 27 00:02:11,389 --> 00:02:16,369 the universe my calculation of 28 00:02:13,129 --> 00:02:18,379 probability 1 goes far beyond what was 29 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:21,620 explored with Drake's equation Drake's 30 00:02:18,379 --> 00:02:23,900 equation refers only to our galaxy my 31 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:26,150 calculation goes to the visible universe 32 00:02:23,900 --> 00:02:28,459 as a whole which has billions of 33 00:02:26,150 --> 00:02:30,760 galaxies and each containing billions of 34 00:02:28,459 --> 00:02:30,759 stars 35 00:02:31,599 --> 00:02:36,949 so if you multiply all these numbers you 36 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:43,550 get tremendous odds for the existence of 37 00:02:36,949 --> 00:02:45,439 life I think one of the main changes 38 00:02:43,550 --> 00:02:47,030 that has taken place in recent years in 39 00:02:45,439 --> 00:02:49,189 astronomers views of whether or not 40 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:51,469 there might be other civilizations also 41 00:02:49,189 --> 00:02:53,530 in the universe has to do with the fact 42 00:02:51,469 --> 00:02:56,960 that we've discovered dozens of other 43 00:02:53,530 --> 00:02:58,640 planetary systems around other stars now 44 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,290 in most cases the planets are giant 45 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,359 planets like Jupiter not the kind that 46 00:03:00,289 --> 00:03:04,009 would Harbor life but where there are 47 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,900 those kinds of planets are likely to be 48 00:03:04,009 --> 00:03:07,759 other planets too in those solar systems 49 00:03:05,900 --> 00:03:09,830 and so we're optimistic these days about 50 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:12,938 life elsewhere 51 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:12,939 [Music] 52 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:18,090 what's the nature of the universe we 53 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:21,659 live in what is our relationship to the 54 00:03:18,090 --> 00:03:25,409 larger reality I looked it up and all of 55 00:03:21,659 --> 00:03:25,949 a sudden there was this you know gotta 56 00:03:25,409 --> 00:03:27,250 say it 57 00:03:25,949 --> 00:03:30,369 flying saucer 58 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:30,370 [Applause] 59 00:03:30,550 --> 00:03:35,980 didn't even make a sound not even assume 60 00:03:48,580 --> 00:04:06,470 it was gone nothing there's nothing to 61 00:04:02,180 --> 00:04:09,050 hide it all that was a part of the 62 00:04:06,469 --> 00:04:14,689 United States Air Force cover-up for 18 63 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:16,639 years there's no way in the military 64 00:04:14,689 --> 00:04:18,759 with any government keeping track of 65 00:04:16,639 --> 00:04:24,349 something that is classified 66 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:31,339 it'll they've clearly had a shape tool 67 00:04:24,350 --> 00:04:33,850 and in a big shape this should be the 68 00:04:31,339 --> 00:04:36,649 subject of rigorous scientific 69 00:04:33,850 --> 00:05:08,330 investigation and not the subject of 70 00:04:36,649 --> 00:05:11,059 rubbishing by tabloid newspapers I am 71 00:05:08,329 --> 00:05:14,539 here to discuss the so-called flying 72 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:17,600 saucers air force interest in this 73 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:22,580 problem has been due to our feeling of 74 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:24,590 an obligation to identify and analyze to 75 00:05:22,579 --> 00:05:27,319 the best of our ability anything in the 76 00:05:24,589 --> 00:05:31,429 air that may have the possibility of 77 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:35,990 threat or menace to the United States in 78 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:38,120 pursuit of this obligation since 1947 we 79 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:40,788 have received and analyzed between one 80 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,310 and two thousand reports there have been 81 00:05:40,788 --> 00:05:46,519 a certain percentage of this volume of 82 00:05:43,310 --> 00:05:50,000 reports that have been made by credible 83 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:54,109 observers of relatively incredible 84 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:58,959 things it is this group of observations 85 00:05:54,110 --> 00:05:58,960 that we now are attempting to resolve 86 00:05:59,629 --> 00:06:05,278 for the last 50 years 95% of all UFO 87 00:06:03,809 --> 00:06:07,830 incidents have been explained in 88 00:06:05,278 --> 00:06:10,618 down-to-earth conventional terms these 89 00:06:07,829 --> 00:06:13,709 explanations include misidentified 90 00:06:10,619 --> 00:06:16,499 aircraft weather balloons atmospheric 91 00:06:13,709 --> 00:06:20,088 phenomenon light aberrations mass 92 00:06:16,499 --> 00:06:22,709 hallucinations hoaxes and swamp gas 93 00:06:20,088 --> 00:06:36,329 however these explanations cannot be 94 00:06:22,709 --> 00:06:38,699 applied to the remaining 5% the 95 00:06:36,329 --> 00:06:40,800 cumulative evidence in these cases leads 96 00:06:38,699 --> 00:06:55,889 towards a possible conclusion that some 97 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:57,929 UFOs are not of Earth origin in this 98 00:06:55,889 --> 00:07:00,389 documentary we will present unexplained 99 00:06:57,928 --> 00:07:03,058 cases from around the world investigate 100 00:07:00,389 --> 00:07:05,788 50 years of official contradictions and 101 00:07:03,059 --> 00:07:08,819 denials and put forth possible reasons 102 00:07:05,788 --> 00:07:10,769 for secrecy we will examine scientific 103 00:07:08,819 --> 00:07:12,838 theories on interstellar travel and 104 00:07:10,769 --> 00:07:15,028 discuss the current movement for 105 00:07:12,838 --> 00:07:17,490 official disclosure on a subject that 106 00:07:15,028 --> 00:07:21,348 has primarily been considered unworthy 107 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:21,348 of serious investigation 108 00:07:21,509 --> 00:07:32,050 [Music] 109 00:07:32,730 --> 00:07:39,629 the case of the Phoenix lights began on 110 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:39,629 an evening in March of 1997 111 00:07:40,379 --> 00:07:47,199 late-breaking you're watching news 15 at 112 00:07:43,389 --> 00:07:49,360 10 dude these lights belong to visitors 113 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:51,189 from outer space hundreds of people 114 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,439 across the valley think it's a distinct 115 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:54,879 possibility good evening I'm mark Vail 116 00:07:53,439 --> 00:07:56,800 and I'm Robin Sewell thanks for joining 117 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:58,810 us we start tonight with those strange 118 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,870 dots of light that were the talk of the 119 00:07:58,810 --> 00:08:03,759 town as reported multiple UFOs were 120 00:08:01,870 --> 00:08:06,100 sighted throughout the Phoenix basin 121 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:08,649 numerous eyewitnesses were already 122 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:10,590 outside looking up into the night sky to 123 00:08:08,649 --> 00:08:12,699 catch a glimpse of the hale-bopp comet 124 00:08:10,589 --> 00:08:15,159 yeah everybody was excited about the 125 00:08:12,699 --> 00:08:16,839 comet but in the middle of that these 126 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:20,260 very mysterious lights appeared over 127 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:21,819 Phoenix over Maricopa County Michael 128 00:08:20,259 --> 00:08:23,889 Tanner is part of a team of 129 00:08:21,819 --> 00:08:25,810 investigators who received roughly eight 130 00:08:23,889 --> 00:08:28,029 hundred reports from eyewitnesses 131 00:08:25,810 --> 00:08:32,139 regarding the Phoenix incident between 132 00:08:28,029 --> 00:08:33,909 8:15 and 8:45 we had enormous craft the 133 00:08:32,139 --> 00:08:36,819 varying altitudes come right through the 134 00:08:33,909 --> 00:08:38,769 center of the Valley of Phoenix led by a 135 00:08:36,820 --> 00:08:41,830 formation of orbs that were clearly 136 00:08:38,769 --> 00:08:43,809 visible through most of the state it 137 00:08:41,830 --> 00:08:45,610 passed right in front of us just about 138 00:08:43,809 --> 00:08:48,039 right above eyes length 139 00:08:45,610 --> 00:08:49,810 my estimate of the size of the craft 140 00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:51,939 from the noses it passed us where we 141 00:08:49,809 --> 00:08:53,949 lived to the end of the left-wing that 142 00:08:51,940 --> 00:08:57,220 passed in front of us was over 5,000 143 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:59,470 foot long it's coming across the sky and 144 00:08:57,220 --> 00:09:02,440 as it's moving it's blocking and 145 00:08:59,470 --> 00:09:05,110 unblocking the Stars there's actually a 146 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:08,019 shape it was actually five lights that 147 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:10,629 were a V one in front two and two on 148 00:09:08,019 --> 00:09:13,000 each side and it was perfect it was a 149 00:09:10,629 --> 00:09:15,039 perfect triangle the object we saw if we 150 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,230 opened up a newspaper you could not 151 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:19,719 block out the object that we saw people 152 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:21,579 say Mike no you saw a b-2 bomber my 153 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,500 response was we could land all 40 of our 154 00:09:21,578 --> 00:09:27,009 b-2 bombers on the wing of that craft if 155 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:29,289 you can picture a Camelback Mountain a 156 00:09:27,009 --> 00:09:33,159 well-known landmark in Phoenix something 157 00:09:29,289 --> 00:09:35,409 about four times that size levitating 158 00:09:33,159 --> 00:09:41,139 down Troad with lights on it they gave 159 00:09:35,409 --> 00:09:43,509 me an idea of what this was like yes I 160 00:09:41,139 --> 00:09:45,699 would I said that's all it's been on the 161 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:47,528 news all night long is this this craft 162 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:50,759 the community got pretty excited about 163 00:09:47,528 --> 00:09:53,860 it it was a lot of a lot of press and 164 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,909 borderline hysteria almost explanations 165 00:09:53,860 --> 00:09:56,680 have been tossed about that they were 166 00:09:54,909 --> 00:09:58,600 flares that there were planes flying in 167 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,129 formation but Marc and Robin we check 168 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,509 with the FAA today we checked with Sky 169 00:10:00,129 --> 00:10:03,338 Harbor we checked Luke Air Force Base 170 00:10:01,509 --> 00:10:05,769 and there's been no official explanation 171 00:10:03,339 --> 00:10:07,980 of those strange bright flights last 172 00:10:05,769 --> 00:10:07,980 night 173 00:10:09,429 --> 00:10:14,689 truck driver bill Greiner was driving 174 00:10:12,259 --> 00:10:17,569 south on i-17 towards Luke Air Force 175 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:20,330 Base he witnessed several fighter jets 176 00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:26,180 scrambled to intercept two UFOs directly 177 00:10:20,330 --> 00:10:30,350 overhead I pulled my truck alongside the 178 00:10:26,179 --> 00:10:34,579 West silos which faces Luke Air Force's 179 00:10:30,350 --> 00:10:40,040 face it was like right there and I was 180 00:10:34,580 --> 00:10:47,060 here unloading everything was completely 181 00:10:40,039 --> 00:10:49,519 quiet there's like really eerie there 182 00:10:47,059 --> 00:10:50,569 was one right over the base and then 183 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:52,699 there was another one on toward 184 00:10:50,570 --> 00:10:55,340 Wickenburg and these things were just 185 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:57,200 hovering they were a huge Forbes but it 186 00:10:55,340 --> 00:10:59,000 didn't it didn't make no sound or 187 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,660 nothing it was just hovering right right 188 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,659 there over the base 189 00:11:03,220 --> 00:11:09,710 all sudden I hear a lot of rorn coming 190 00:11:07,610 --> 00:11:11,360 out of a Luke Air Force Base in here 191 00:11:09,710 --> 00:11:13,009 there's two fighters coming on they had 192 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,509 the afterburners on because every huge 193 00:11:13,009 --> 00:11:21,679 flames coming out the back of these 194 00:11:14,509 --> 00:11:28,789 things ripped right around the back of 195 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:32,479 me and shot right for those things then 196 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:34,309 the disappeared Ottoman military says 197 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,409 the lights over Arizona last night were 198 00:11:34,309 --> 00:11:37,789 flares but the people who saw the lights 199 00:11:36,409 --> 00:11:42,019 last night say they couldn't have been 200 00:11:37,789 --> 00:11:44,269 flares in central Phoenix in what is 201 00:11:42,019 --> 00:11:45,679 known as the sunny slope area the lay 202 00:11:44,269 --> 00:11:47,620 family were coming home in the early 203 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,329 evening to watch for the hale-bopp comet 204 00:11:47,620 --> 00:11:53,539 when they witnessed a very large craft 205 00:11:50,330 --> 00:11:55,700 fly directly over their house when the 206 00:11:53,539 --> 00:11:59,179 craft went over I had really focused on 207 00:11:55,700 --> 00:12:01,190 the light the tip was right out in the 208 00:11:59,179 --> 00:12:03,769 street and the arm is going by and the 209 00:12:01,190 --> 00:12:05,690 end of the arm was at least to that 210 00:12:03,769 --> 00:12:08,840 mountain over there it was six seven 211 00:12:05,690 --> 00:12:10,730 hundred feet away with these huge lights 212 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,399 set inside of it 213 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:15,379 and I look inside and it's like it's 214 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:17,659 wavy when you when you look down the 215 00:12:15,379 --> 00:12:20,120 street on a hot day in Phoenix above the 216 00:12:17,659 --> 00:12:22,279 streets like it's really wavy and you 217 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,840 see everything kind of distorted I asked 218 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:26,539 what it looks like up inside the middle 219 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,120 of the craft and it just skimmed by 220 00:12:26,539 --> 00:12:32,149 didn't even make a sound not even a 221 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,799 sound further eyewitness testimony came 222 00:12:32,149 --> 00:12:36,860 from Stacey Rhodes and her daughter 223 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:37,819 Emily who both saw a giant craft fly 224 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:40,490 over their car 225 00:12:37,820 --> 00:12:44,530 it was gunmetal black it wasn't shiny it 226 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:47,629 wasn't invisible it was more of a dull 227 00:12:44,529 --> 00:12:48,740 bluish black color any of us just stayed 228 00:12:47,629 --> 00:12:52,259 there and looked at it for a couple 229 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:54,960 minutes and it was completely silent 230 00:12:52,259 --> 00:12:57,210 mic Fortson spotted the same craft from 231 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,460 his backyard in Chandler a suburb of 232 00:12:57,210 --> 00:13:01,830 Phoenix when you're looking to the north 233 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:03,389 towards Phoenix proper the the lights of 234 00:13:01,830 --> 00:13:05,220 the City of Phoenix and Tempe and 235 00:13:03,389 --> 00:13:07,019 Scottsdale and all these here will form 236 00:13:05,220 --> 00:13:08,519 a gray background and this is a black 237 00:13:07,019 --> 00:13:10,559 object coming through a grey background 238 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:12,419 we had no problem was whoever seen this 239 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,309 vehicle we knew it wasn't really ours 240 00:13:12,419 --> 00:13:17,069 because it was just too doggone big 241 00:13:14,309 --> 00:13:18,389 matter of fact profoundly massive is a 242 00:13:17,070 --> 00:13:20,040 better way to describe it we don't 243 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:22,139 really have words in our language to 244 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:23,750 describe something that large it was 245 00:13:22,139 --> 00:13:26,009 huge 246 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:28,049 Councilwoman Frances Barwood was 247 00:13:26,009 --> 00:13:29,850 approached by a reporter who complained 248 00:13:28,049 --> 00:13:32,309 about the lack of response from local 249 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:34,560 government regarding the sightings what 250 00:13:32,309 --> 00:13:36,029 this reporter said was that they had 251 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,279 gone to every level of government 252 00:13:36,029 --> 00:13:41,399 including the City of Phoenix and nobody 253 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:43,740 would talk to them that this object went 254 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,959 from north of Prescott who called in all 255 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:49,169 the way down to Tucson and then was also 256 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,700 seen in Wickenburg and nobody would give 257 00:13:49,169 --> 00:13:52,259 them any answer they either told them 258 00:13:50,700 --> 00:13:56,310 that they were not going to talk about 259 00:13:52,259 --> 00:13:58,950 it at all or that there was nothing that 260 00:13:56,309 --> 00:14:00,809 nothing happened responding to mounting 261 00:13:58,950 --> 00:14:02,340 pressure from his constituents governor 262 00:14:00,809 --> 00:14:06,000 Fife Symington held a press conference 263 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:08,009 oh I'm gonna order a full you know 264 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,539 investigation of this through DPS we're 265 00:14:08,009 --> 00:14:10,649 gonna make all the necessary inquiries 266 00:14:09,539 --> 00:14:12,539 and we're gonna get to the bottom of 267 00:14:10,649 --> 00:14:15,019 we're gonna find out if it was a UFO 268 00:14:12,539 --> 00:14:17,639 [Music] 269 00:14:15,019 --> 00:14:19,889 later that day governor Symington held 270 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:21,840 an unscheduled live press conference to 271 00:14:19,889 --> 00:14:24,899 announce that they had discovered the 272 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,460 source behind the Phoenix lights now 273 00:14:24,899 --> 00:14:28,709 I'll ask officer Stein and his 274 00:14:26,460 --> 00:14:30,600 colleagues to escort the accused into 275 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:32,070 the room so that we may all look upon 276 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,899 the guilty party 277 00:14:32,070 --> 00:14:39,900 this just goes to show that you guys are 278 00:14:33,899 --> 00:14:41,519 entirely too serious laughed at it I 279 00:14:39,899 --> 00:14:43,649 thought it was really disgusting 280 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:46,519 he was just dismissing everything that 281 00:14:43,649 --> 00:14:49,980 these people had seen and said just like 282 00:14:46,519 --> 00:14:51,569 we're all Looney Tunes I just thought 283 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:54,029 that was a really improper attitude for 284 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:56,490 somebody in his position nobody in state 285 00:14:54,029 --> 00:14:58,889 local federal military nobody wanted to 286 00:14:56,490 --> 00:15:00,509 talk about it they didn't want to 287 00:14:58,889 --> 00:15:03,000 interview witnesses they said it didn't 288 00:15:00,509 --> 00:15:04,710 happen they said it didn't concern them 289 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,809 there was one Councilwoman Frances 290 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:09,360 Barwood she's the one that spoke up and 291 00:15:06,809 --> 00:15:11,099 said why don't we investigate and then 292 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,379 when it came time for her election she 293 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:14,879 lost and and the depressed the media 294 00:15:13,379 --> 00:15:18,480 everybody else was really trashing her 295 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:20,850 bag why is everybody so afraid and the 296 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,670 only thing I can think of is one they're 297 00:15:20,850 --> 00:15:25,080 afraid of their careers which you know 298 00:15:23,669 --> 00:15:26,909 comes to a point of what's more 299 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,340 important your soul your job and I guess 300 00:15:26,909 --> 00:15:32,669 to them it's their job and the second 301 00:15:29,340 --> 00:15:35,850 thing is the scoring factor 302 00:15:32,669 --> 00:15:37,799 in 2006 we caught up with Governor Fife 303 00:15:35,850 --> 00:15:39,960 Symington to find out what really 304 00:15:37,799 --> 00:15:42,269 happened and whether he believed the 305 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,550 military's explanation that the Phoenix 306 00:15:42,269 --> 00:15:46,199 lights were just flares I was never 307 00:15:44,549 --> 00:15:48,029 satisfied with the explanation that they 308 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,400 were high altitude flares it didn't look 309 00:15:48,029 --> 00:15:54,329 like that it they were - it was all too 310 00:15:50,399 --> 00:15:58,500 symmetrical I mean it clearly had a 311 00:15:54,330 --> 00:16:01,290 shape to it and it in a big shape and 312 00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:03,059 and it was a constant shape and you you 313 00:16:01,289 --> 00:16:04,740 can't control flares that way there's 314 00:16:03,059 --> 00:16:06,209 just no way they were flares we also 315 00:16:04,740 --> 00:16:08,909 asked him what he wanted to accomplish 316 00:16:06,210 --> 00:16:10,560 with his alien stunts at the press 317 00:16:08,909 --> 00:16:12,059 conference the hysteria that was 318 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:14,579 building with Frances Barwood on the 319 00:16:12,059 --> 00:16:16,469 city council and and some others that I 320 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:21,480 thought it was just you know they were 321 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:23,460 just getting to you know overboard about 322 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,350 it I mean it was unbelievable - hysteria 323 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:27,360 that was building and I just felt that 324 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:28,590 there was a need for some levity and we 325 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,419 were known once in a while to pull a 326 00:16:28,590 --> 00:16:32,639 prank and I dressed my chief of staff up 327 00:16:30,419 --> 00:16:34,319 as a Martian we let him in in this 328 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,610 Martian costume in handcuffs with the 329 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,210 Department of Public Safety police 330 00:16:35,610 --> 00:16:41,039 officers and and it was just hilarious 331 00:16:39,210 --> 00:16:43,170 and it was just a total meltdown at the 332 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:44,699 press conference it was a spoof and now 333 00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:46,979 I'll ask officer Stein and his 334 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:48,870 colleagues to escort the accused into 335 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:50,730 the room so that we may all look upon 336 00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:52,769 the guilty party don't get him too close 337 00:16:50,730 --> 00:16:54,360 to me please we confronted him with a 338 00:16:52,769 --> 00:16:56,519 tape recording from one of his many 339 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,590 constituents who failed to find the 340 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:59,789 humor in this staged event it's been a 341 00:16:58,590 --> 00:17:27,480 long time since I've been put on the 342 00:16:59,789 --> 00:17:30,509 spot on TV it's a good question and and 343 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,460 of course as I said earlier I never felt 344 00:17:30,509 --> 00:17:34,710 that the overall situation was a matter 345 00:17:32,460 --> 00:17:35,850 of ridicule we certainly took advantage 346 00:17:34,710 --> 00:17:37,019 of it 347 00:17:35,849 --> 00:17:43,769 just goes to show that you guys are 348 00:17:37,019 --> 00:17:44,970 entirely too serious yeah you know if I 349 00:17:43,769 --> 00:17:47,639 had to do it all over again I probably 350 00:17:44,970 --> 00:17:48,750 would have handled it differently but at 351 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,220 least I have the opportunity now to 352 00:17:48,750 --> 00:17:53,519 correct the record and that's important 353 00:17:50,220 --> 00:17:55,890 in correcting the record he told us what 354 00:17:53,519 --> 00:17:59,129 he would say now I would say that at 355 00:17:55,890 --> 00:18:04,640 that time in over Phoenix we all 356 00:17:59,130 --> 00:18:07,289 experienced a very exciting sighting of 357 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,409 some kind of a craft of unknown origin 358 00:18:07,288 --> 00:18:12,869 nobody's ever been able to explain it 359 00:18:09,409 --> 00:18:15,830 and that it was most of us feel that it 360 00:18:12,869 --> 00:18:20,189 was definitely a you know alien origin 361 00:18:15,829 --> 00:18:22,379 enormous inexplicable probably one of 362 00:18:20,190 --> 00:18:23,640 the major sightings and you know in 363 00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:24,990 modern history in the country because a 364 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,780 lot of people saw I didn't know nobody 365 00:18:24,990 --> 00:18:30,390 and I saw it too and we never got to the 366 00:18:27,779 --> 00:18:38,609 bottom of it we never found out what you 367 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:40,980 know what they were the US military's 368 00:18:38,609 --> 00:18:43,589 involvement in the UFO subject dates 369 00:18:40,980 --> 00:18:45,480 back to World War two it began with the 370 00:18:43,589 --> 00:18:48,240 sighting by Air Force pilots of 371 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,250 mysterious luminous orbs called Foo 372 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,919 Fighters which would pace aircraft 373 00:18:50,250 --> 00:18:54,720 during missions and then died away they 374 00:18:52,919 --> 00:18:57,299 fly circles around anything we've got 375 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,829 flying a strange behavior includes the 376 00:18:57,298 --> 00:19:00,750 ability to both hover and move at 377 00:18:58,829 --> 00:19:02,399 extremely high velocity to make 378 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:04,409 right-angled turns at high speed to go 379 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,940 straight up straight down all of this 380 00:19:04,409 --> 00:19:07,440 typically without any noise without any 381 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:10,919 visible external lines and lovely wings 382 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:13,120 without any tail we simply could not do 383 00:19:10,919 --> 00:19:16,780 that back 50 years ago 384 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:18,789 in the summer of 1947 numerous UFOs were 385 00:19:16,779 --> 00:19:21,700 spotted by local authorities airline 386 00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:23,500 pilots and civilians worldwide by July 387 00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:25,680 these sightings made headlines and 388 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:28,390 newspapers all across the United States 389 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:30,850 culminating on the 8th of July with the 390 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:36,070 alleged recovery of a crashed disc on a 391 00:19:30,849 --> 00:19:38,189 ranch near Roswell New Mexico the 392 00:19:36,069 --> 00:19:40,869 military were quick to respond 393 00:19:38,190 --> 00:19:43,000 they send agents out all over this area 394 00:19:40,869 --> 00:19:43,509 here to try to get information on 395 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,609 Roswell 396 00:19:43,509 --> 00:19:47,079 and yet we stood back like fools and 397 00:19:45,609 --> 00:19:49,359 said that didn't exist whose loyola 398 00:19:47,079 --> 00:19:51,909 blown 50 years after the incident 399 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,490 colonel Philip J Corso formerly a member 400 00:19:51,910 --> 00:19:56,080 of the National Security Council 401 00:19:53,490 --> 00:19:58,569 revealed that the weather balloons over 402 00:19:56,079 --> 00:20:02,769 Roswell was a cover story for the crash 403 00:19:58,569 --> 00:20:04,240 of an alien craft we had to cover to 404 00:20:02,769 --> 00:20:06,039 protect our own installation because 405 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,960 they have dusters Cookson destroy the 406 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:09,399 organization ya understand what was 407 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,090 going on in the government and the kind 408 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:15,180 of opinion law so discretion better part 409 00:20:13,089 --> 00:20:17,829 of Allen we just kept it to ourselves 410 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:20,230 only some certain people know about it 411 00:20:17,829 --> 00:20:23,199 hit the head bring the brain no paper 412 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:25,360 trail although the official position 413 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:27,430 claimed that UFOs didn't exist 414 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,259 this secret memorandum written by 415 00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:29,740 General Nathan twining suggests 416 00:20:29,259 --> 00:20:32,289 otherwise 417 00:20:29,740 --> 00:20:35,079 the consensus expressed by the air 418 00:20:32,289 --> 00:20:37,420 material command was that the phenomenon 419 00:20:35,079 --> 00:20:41,679 reported is something real and not 420 00:20:37,420 --> 00:20:44,310 visionary or fictitious the memo 421 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,750 continues there are objects probably 422 00:20:44,309 --> 00:20:49,149 approximating the shape of a disc of 423 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:52,980 such appreciable size as to appear to be 424 00:20:49,150 --> 00:20:52,980 as large as a man-made aircraft 425 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:58,160 in this chaotic climate and in an effort 426 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,319 to reorganize the US military 427 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,960 President Truman passed the National 428 00:21:00,319 --> 00:21:04,939 Security Act this act built the 429 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,250 framework for America's modern national 430 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:09,440 security structure among other things 431 00:21:07,250 --> 00:21:14,029 the Act established the National 432 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:16,250 Security Council and the CIA the 433 00:21:14,029 --> 00:21:17,629 National Security Act of 1947 allowed 434 00:21:16,250 --> 00:21:21,200 for the creation of a state within a 435 00:21:17,630 --> 00:21:24,020 state author of UFOs and the national 436 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,430 security state Richard Dolan asserts 437 00:21:24,019 --> 00:21:27,710 that the signing of the National 438 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:30,110 Security Act created an intelligence 439 00:21:27,710 --> 00:21:33,019 infrastructure capable of maintaining a 440 00:21:30,109 --> 00:21:35,209 very high level of secrecy one with an 441 00:21:33,019 --> 00:21:37,129 enormous amount of power an enormous 442 00:21:35,210 --> 00:21:40,670 amount of wealth an enormous amount of 443 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:42,530 secrecy and latitude of action the level 444 00:21:40,670 --> 00:21:45,170 of secrecy imposed by the US government 445 00:21:42,529 --> 00:21:47,930 on the UFO issue is revealed in this 446 00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:50,690 top-secret memorandum it was written in 447 00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:53,060 1950 by electronics engineer Wilbert 448 00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:56,680 Smith a high-ranking official in the 449 00:21:53,059 --> 00:21:56,679 Canadian Department of transport 450 00:21:57,019 --> 00:22:01,769 after a meeting with a top government 451 00:21:59,369 --> 00:22:04,739 scientist employed by the Pentagon Smith 452 00:22:01,769 --> 00:22:07,680 was informed that flying saucers exists 453 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:09,720 and more significantly the matter is the 454 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,610 most highly classified subject in the 455 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,140 United States government rating higher 456 00:22:11,609 --> 00:22:15,139 even than the h-bomb 457 00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:23,129 in my opinion I think they were worried 458 00:22:21,388 --> 00:22:25,138 that they would panic the public if they 459 00:22:23,128 --> 00:22:27,599 knew that someone had vehicles that had 460 00:22:25,138 --> 00:22:30,719 this kind of performance way back right 461 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:33,449 after World War two on a clear night in 462 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,608 February of 1951 lieutenant Graham 463 00:22:33,450 --> 00:22:38,369 Bethune sat at the controls of a US Navy 464 00:22:35,608 --> 00:22:39,178 transport plane enroute from Iceland to 465 00:22:38,368 --> 00:22:41,638 America 466 00:22:39,179 --> 00:22:43,559 the flight was routine and tilled the 467 00:22:41,638 --> 00:22:45,898 fumes spotted a strange group of lights 468 00:22:43,558 --> 00:22:47,878 below his aircraft and we were ten 469 00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:50,308 thousand feet this was about 15 miles 470 00:22:47,878 --> 00:22:52,618 away it came up to us like that just 471 00:22:50,308 --> 00:22:55,200 about that fast and of course I 472 00:22:52,618 --> 00:22:56,819 disengaged the autopilot to put the nose 473 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,798 over it I thought we'd be able to go 474 00:22:56,819 --> 00:23:00,839 under this thing and not collide with it 475 00:22:58,798 --> 00:23:02,398 and when I did that staring me in the 476 00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:04,678 face and you couldn't see anything out 477 00:23:02,398 --> 00:23:08,788 the cockpit we could tell it was a 478 00:23:04,679 --> 00:23:10,379 monster about 300 feet in diameter as it 479 00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:13,589 drifted out to our right we could see 480 00:23:10,378 --> 00:23:15,569 the dome according to lieutenant Bethune 481 00:23:13,589 --> 00:23:17,878 the object remained in this position for 482 00:23:15,569 --> 00:23:19,888 about a minute it then accelerated 483 00:23:17,878 --> 00:23:20,469 rapidly and disappeared above the 484 00:23:19,888 --> 00:23:24,288 horizon 485 00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:24,288 [Music] 486 00:23:24,558 --> 00:23:27,660 upon landing at an airbase in 487 00:23:26,849 --> 00:23:29,549 Newfoundland 488 00:23:27,660 --> 00:23:31,340 he was debriefed and interrogated by 489 00:23:29,549 --> 00:23:33,808 several officers from Naval Intelligence 490 00:23:31,339 --> 00:23:35,899 at the conclusion he was ordered to 491 00:23:33,808 --> 00:23:38,789 never speak about this incident again 492 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:40,740 you accept anything like that simply 493 00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:43,139 because you're in the military and 494 00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:45,589 that's your job is to defend the country 495 00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:48,240 and whatever they tell you to do you do 496 00:23:45,589 --> 00:23:50,519 the identity of the group responsible 497 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,680 for imposing the secrecy around the UFO 498 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:54,720 issue was revealed to lieutenant Bethune 499 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,450 several months later in a conversation 500 00:23:54,720 --> 00:24:00,329 with an officer from Naval Intelligence 501 00:23:56,450 --> 00:24:03,090 and Isaac in the course is what happens 502 00:24:00,329 --> 00:24:06,299 to this report where does it go he said 503 00:24:03,089 --> 00:24:09,419 it goes to Navy intelligence chief naval 504 00:24:06,299 --> 00:24:11,639 operation then it goes to a Joint 505 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:14,820 Intelligence Committee and of course 506 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,200 later on I learned that was ma GIC which 507 00:24:14,819 --> 00:24:18,928 is majority agented Joint Intelligence 508 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,580 no he said there's a small committee but 509 00:24:18,929 --> 00:24:22,650 this committee determined what it would 510 00:24:20,579 --> 00:24:24,240 affect our national security that if it 511 00:24:22,650 --> 00:24:35,160 did it would probably never go anywhere 512 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:36,839 else one of the main arguments used to 513 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,250 deny the possibility of interstellar 514 00:24:36,839 --> 00:24:42,328 travel is the question of distance 515 00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:42,328 [Music] 516 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,460 the closest star Alpha Centauri is 4.2 517 00:24:47,230 --> 00:24:51,130 light-years away 518 00:24:48,460 --> 00:24:53,049 if astronauts travel to this star at the 519 00:24:51,130 --> 00:24:57,670 speed they reached the moon it would 520 00:24:53,049 --> 00:24:59,079 take them roughly 100,000 years another 521 00:24:57,670 --> 00:25:00,700 major obstacle and obtaining 522 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,009 interstellar travel would be the amount 523 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:04,720 of fuel required when you're driving a 524 00:25:03,009 --> 00:25:06,279 car the amount of propellant you have to 525 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,200 carry in your fuel tank is very small 526 00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:10,210 just a few percent of the weight of the 527 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,860 car when you're trying to carry enough 528 00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:13,630 propellant to take a rocket ship vast 529 00:25:11,859 --> 00:25:15,909 distances even in our solar system 530 00:25:13,630 --> 00:25:18,040 pretty soon you find yourself carrying a 531 00:25:15,910 --> 00:25:20,590 propellant just to propel the propellant 532 00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:22,869 this problem skyrockets to infinity so 533 00:25:20,589 --> 00:25:24,369 we'd want to go to propulsion systems 534 00:25:22,869 --> 00:25:26,349 that have very very high exhaust 535 00:25:24,369 --> 00:25:28,209 velocities and with a chemical reaction 536 00:25:26,349 --> 00:25:30,969 essentially a barely contained explosion 537 00:25:28,210 --> 00:25:33,039 into chemical rocket you have a limit to 538 00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:35,829 that and that limit is currently almost 539 00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:38,200 met by the shuttle engines we can't go 540 00:25:35,829 --> 00:25:40,259 beyond it very well and so we have to go 541 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:45,788 to some other kind of propulsive source 542 00:25:40,259 --> 00:25:45,788 [Music] 543 00:25:47,210 --> 00:25:52,110 even if we could develop a radical form 544 00:25:49,859 --> 00:25:53,069 of propulsion capable of obtaining near 545 00:25:52,109 --> 00:25:55,769 light speed 546 00:25:53,069 --> 00:25:57,869 Einstein's theory of relativity tells us 547 00:25:55,769 --> 00:26:00,119 that we would encounter another enormous 548 00:25:57,869 --> 00:26:02,069 problem there's a law of relativity that 549 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,500 says that the closer you try to 550 00:26:02,069 --> 00:26:06,000 accelerate something like a rocket to 551 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:08,069 the speed of light the more massive it 552 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,349 becomes and so it becomes infinitely 553 00:26:08,069 --> 00:26:13,769 massive at the speed of light which 554 00:26:10,349 --> 00:26:15,959 makes it impossible to get there new way 555 00:26:13,769 --> 00:26:18,210 of thinking about the universe physics 556 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,250 professor Rhodes scholar and author of 557 00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:22,500 the national bestseller the elegant 558 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:24,179 universe dr. Brian Green has been 559 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:27,419 researching relativity and quantum 560 00:26:24,179 --> 00:26:29,429 physics for several decades dr. green 561 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:30,540 brings up another problem with traveling 562 00:26:29,429 --> 00:26:33,690 near the speed of light 563 00:26:30,539 --> 00:26:35,819 if astronauts one day go to the moon and 564 00:26:33,690 --> 00:26:37,350 beyond in ships that travel at a 565 00:26:35,819 --> 00:26:39,720 substantial fraction of the speed of 566 00:26:37,349 --> 00:26:42,539 light when they return to earth 567 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,919 relativity really tells us they will 568 00:26:42,539 --> 00:26:45,808 have be in for a shock 569 00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:48,030 because while they may have thought a 570 00:26:45,808 --> 00:26:49,889 few months went by they'll get back to 571 00:26:48,029 --> 00:26:52,349 earth and they'll see that years and 572 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:54,630 years hundreds perhaps thousands of 573 00:26:52,349 --> 00:26:55,649 years will have gone by this is not 574 00:26:54,630 --> 00:26:58,679 science fiction 575 00:26:55,650 --> 00:27:00,780 this is science fact so the idea of 576 00:26:58,679 --> 00:27:03,030 travelling between soul between stellar 577 00:27:00,779 --> 00:27:05,178 systems in normal space I don't believe 578 00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:08,129 is possible we're gonna have to invoke 579 00:27:05,179 --> 00:27:11,250 jump gates from Babylon 5 warp drives 580 00:27:08,130 --> 00:27:14,960 from Star Trek and of course in 100 581 00:27:11,250 --> 00:27:14,960 years who knows what might develop 582 00:27:16,539 --> 00:27:20,539 although at present the solution to 583 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:22,700 interstellar travel may sound like 584 00:27:20,539 --> 00:27:24,799 science fiction a growing number of 585 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:27,019 scientists are exploring radical new 586 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:31,879 theories that may circumvent these 587 00:27:27,019 --> 00:27:33,139 obstacles we're beginning to discover in 588 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,870 theoretical physics that maybe our 589 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:37,610 entire universe is just a subset of a 590 00:27:35,869 --> 00:27:39,169 much greater universe a 591 00:27:37,609 --> 00:27:41,029 multi-dimensional universe that's being 592 00:27:39,170 --> 00:27:43,340 investigated in modern superstring and M 593 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:44,990 brain theory in the context of those 594 00:27:43,339 --> 00:27:46,819 theories there may be new possibilities 595 00:27:44,990 --> 00:27:49,039 too so to speak step outside of 596 00:27:46,819 --> 00:27:51,379 space-time move somewhere else and come 597 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,759 back into our universe at some distant 598 00:27:51,380 --> 00:27:54,860 location Einstein 599 00:27:52,759 --> 00:27:57,379 teaches us that the fabric of space can 600 00:27:54,859 --> 00:28:01,009 respond to its environment it can warp 601 00:27:57,380 --> 00:28:03,290 and curve and in fact the equations of 602 00:28:01,009 --> 00:28:07,190 general relativity allowed the fabric of 603 00:28:03,289 --> 00:28:10,700 space to have severe bends so long as 604 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:12,830 you distribute matter and energy in the 605 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:15,680 appropriate way you can bend space 606 00:28:12,829 --> 00:28:17,419 fairly significantly so in principle 607 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,299 it's possible that if you want to go 608 00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:22,550 from one end of the universe to another 609 00:28:19,299 --> 00:28:25,099 you don't have to travel all along the 610 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:27,319 fabric of space maybe you can bend the 611 00:28:25,099 --> 00:28:29,809 fabric of space and then travel from 612 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:42,799 here to here very short journey by a 613 00:28:29,809 --> 00:28:44,659 shortcut or wormhole continuing research 614 00:28:42,799 --> 00:28:46,639 into the possibilities of interstellar 615 00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:48,620 travel are currently being conducted by 616 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,860 NASA's breakthrough propulsion team 617 00:28:48,619 --> 00:28:53,479 headed by Marc Millis what we're trying 618 00:28:51,859 --> 00:28:56,059 to do is break it down into the smaller 619 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,500 steps to attack the critical make break 620 00:28:56,059 --> 00:28:59,569 issues of some of the things we need to 621 00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:01,250 find out can you propel a vehicle 622 00:28:59,569 --> 00:29:03,950 without propellant can you conserve 623 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:05,299 momentum in the process the issues of 624 00:29:03,950 --> 00:29:07,130 faster-than-light travel the causality 625 00:29:05,299 --> 00:29:09,409 violations and things like that address 626 00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:12,760 those in smaller steps to see if you can 627 00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:15,920 eventually lead that way today we have 628 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:17,690 scientists working for NASA working for 629 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,390 the US Air Force working for British 630 00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:21,850 Aerospace working for other firms and 631 00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:25,280 agencies that we don't even know about 632 00:29:21,849 --> 00:29:27,679 that are intent on discovering how to do 633 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:30,139 star travel they have already decide 634 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,200 it can be done theoretically now the 635 00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:36,050 question is okay what's the trick let's 636 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,880 figure it out if you look back fifty a 637 00:29:36,049 --> 00:29:42,409 hundred years to what scientists we knew 638 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:44,030 then and what we could do today who 639 00:29:42,410 --> 00:29:46,250 knows what we could do in the future so 640 00:29:44,029 --> 00:29:48,289 I have an inherent optimism about 641 00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:52,960 progress and I think that what seems 642 00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:55,609 impossible today will possibly be 643 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,079 possible tomorrow we're at that point of 644 00:29:55,609 --> 00:29:59,979 imagining these things asking these 645 00:29:57,079 --> 00:30:03,829 technological questions clearly that 646 00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:05,660 opens the door to at least the 647 00:30:03,829 --> 00:30:08,049 possibility that others have figured it 648 00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:08,050 out already 649 00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:14,349 [Music] 650 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:30,789 in 1965 Gordon Cooper was the last 651 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:42,329 American astronaut to go up into space 652 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:42,329 alone he orbited the planet 22 times I 653 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,999 [Music] 654 00:30:52,829 --> 00:30:58,599 think those are you to know me I know 655 00:30:56,470 --> 00:31:02,519 that I've always spoken honestly and 656 00:30:58,599 --> 00:31:05,109 straightforward to you I can do so today 657 00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:06,339 ten years earlier while stationed at 658 00:31:05,109 --> 00:31:08,049 Edwards Air Force Base 659 00:31:06,339 --> 00:31:12,849 Cooper witnessed an event that has yet 660 00:31:08,049 --> 00:31:14,319 to be explained nearly 50 years later he 661 00:31:12,849 --> 00:31:16,839 was supervising the filming of a 662 00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:19,470 precision landing facility for f-86 663 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:19,470 fighter jets 664 00:31:19,579 --> 00:31:24,839 [Applause] 665 00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:27,089 suddenly a saucer-like craft flew 666 00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:29,099 directly over the cameraman three 667 00:31:27,089 --> 00:31:32,250 landing gear apparatus opened and the 668 00:31:29,099 --> 00:31:35,490 object landed on the dry lake bed in 669 00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:38,519 this typical saucer shape the double 670 00:31:35,490 --> 00:31:40,440 integral a metallic and they went out 671 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:44,700 picked up their cameras and moved on out 672 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:47,370 Floridian filming and he left it off put 673 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,650 the gear back in the well and climbed 674 00:31:47,369 --> 00:31:52,169 out the very high rate of speed 675 00:31:48,650 --> 00:31:56,820 disappearing Cooper had the film footage 676 00:31:52,170 --> 00:31:58,710 of the strange craft developed by the 677 00:31:56,819 --> 00:32:00,509 time it returned from processing he had 678 00:31:58,710 --> 00:32:01,110 gone up through the ranks to report the 679 00:32:00,509 --> 00:32:04,950 incident 680 00:32:01,109 --> 00:32:06,779 anyway the colonel telling me do you 681 00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:08,789 know when the film arrived at my desk to 682 00:32:06,779 --> 00:32:10,829 put it in the carrier pouch there would 683 00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:13,529 be occurred there at my office by that 684 00:32:10,829 --> 00:32:15,960 time I'm already in and they'd arranged 685 00:32:13,529 --> 00:32:22,829 for him to fly in our base airplane back 686 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:24,930 to Washington with he's found we didn't 687 00:32:22,829 --> 00:32:27,559 have a chance to run it I had a chance 688 00:32:24,930 --> 00:32:30,539 to hold it up to the wind and look at it 689 00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:33,029 certainly good found after the developed 690 00:32:30,539 --> 00:32:36,649 film was sent by plane to Washington it 691 00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:39,089 was never seen or heard of again 692 00:32:36,650 --> 00:32:39,890 how would I keep in touch with anybody 693 00:32:39,089 --> 00:32:42,569 about it 694 00:32:39,890 --> 00:32:44,070 there's no way within the military or 695 00:32:42,569 --> 00:32:45,990 within the government of keeping track 696 00:32:44,069 --> 00:32:48,149 of something that is classified 697 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:53,759 unless you're directly involved in it 698 00:32:48,150 --> 00:32:56,519 and I was not I went into space to learn 699 00:32:53,759 --> 00:32:59,700 about the universe we live in to get new 700 00:32:56,519 --> 00:33:05,609 insights to go beyond the boundaries of 701 00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:07,830 our known existence Apollo 14 astronaut 702 00:33:05,609 --> 00:33:10,049 and sixth man on the moon Edgar Mitchell 703 00:33:07,829 --> 00:33:12,449 states in his book the way of the 704 00:33:10,049 --> 00:33:16,859 Explorer that he's never had first-hand 705 00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:18,809 experience with UFOs however he has met 706 00:33:16,859 --> 00:33:20,879 with credible professionals within two 707 00:33:18,809 --> 00:33:23,399 governments who have testified to their 708 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,770 own first-hand experiences with Close 709 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,110 Encounters during their official duties 710 00:33:25,769 --> 00:33:30,269 the only people I know of that claim to 711 00:33:28,109 --> 00:33:33,479 have been in that position 712 00:33:30,269 --> 00:33:36,058 our former intelligence military and 713 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:39,329 government people and some contractor 714 00:33:36,058 --> 00:33:42,750 people whose official duties in the 715 00:33:39,329 --> 00:33:43,819 early days were to investigate this and 716 00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:47,308 know about it 717 00:33:43,819 --> 00:33:51,869 those people are under were under at 718 00:33:47,308 --> 00:33:53,609 that time great restrictions and high 719 00:33:51,869 --> 00:33:56,209 security clearance that prevented them 720 00:33:53,609 --> 00:33:58,769 from telling the general public about it 721 00:33:56,210 --> 00:34:01,259 what we photographed up there affected 722 00:33:58,769 --> 00:34:03,299 me for the rest of my life in 1964 723 00:34:01,259 --> 00:34:06,029 former US Air Force lieutenant Bob 724 00:34:03,299 --> 00:34:08,190 Jacobs was in the 1360 ninth photo 725 00:34:06,029 --> 00:34:10,800 squadron at Vandenberg Air Force Base in 726 00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:12,990 California he was in charge of photo 727 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:19,289 optical instrumentation at a tracking 728 00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:21,479 site in Big Sur 124 miles away his 729 00:34:19,289 --> 00:34:23,460 mission was to film an Atlas rocket go 730 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,918 through all three stages of powered 731 00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:27,720 flight this particular mission was part 732 00:34:25,918 --> 00:34:29,730 of the Nike Zeus objective for the 733 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,730 development of an anti-missile missile 734 00:34:29,730 --> 00:34:34,858 during the height of the Cold War all 735 00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:38,469 cameras rolled as they heard liftoff 736 00:34:34,858 --> 00:34:48,299 from Vandenberg over their radio 737 00:34:38,469 --> 00:34:48,300 [Music] 738 00:34:48,358 --> 00:34:54,848 you're looking down south southwest and 739 00:34:52,659 --> 00:34:56,338 the missile popped up through the fog it 740 00:34:54,849 --> 00:34:59,349 was just beautiful 741 00:34:56,338 --> 00:35:02,190 then our guys on our m/45 tracking mount 742 00:34:59,349 --> 00:35:04,240 with 180 inch lenses on it got it and 743 00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:05,679 sure enough we could see all three 744 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,539 stages of powered flight as they burned 745 00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:09,279 out and dropped away and then of course 746 00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:12,279 to our naked I always thought was a 747 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:15,309 smoke trail going off into subspace 748 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:18,400 so we whoop Eden shouted and heard the 749 00:35:15,309 --> 00:35:21,519 film rap off in the in the BU telescope 750 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:24,430 and figured well that was our first big 751 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:26,199 deal we got it lieutenant Jacobs then 752 00:35:24,429 --> 00:35:29,710 took the cans of film down to Vandenberg 753 00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:31,509 to have them develop that night the 754 00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:33,429 following morning Jacobs was ordered to 755 00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:35,829 go immediately to the office of Maj 756 00:35:33,429 --> 00:35:37,750 Florence J Mannesmann the ranking 757 00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:40,059 optical instrumentation officer in 758 00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:41,800 charge I walked into his office and they 759 00:35:40,059 --> 00:35:45,099 had a screen and a 16 millimeter 760 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:47,109 projector setup there was a couch and 761 00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:50,109 major Mansmann said sit down and there 762 00:35:47,108 --> 00:35:52,989 were two guys as I recall two guys he in 763 00:35:50,108 --> 00:35:57,670 grey suits civilian clothes which was 764 00:35:52,989 --> 00:36:01,000 fairly unusual um and a major Mansmann 765 00:35:57,670 --> 00:36:02,858 said watch this and turned on the film 766 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,289 projector and I watched the screen and 767 00:36:02,858 --> 00:36:07,808 there was the launch from the day or two 768 00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:10,420 before it hit Victor as the Atlas 769 00:36:07,809 --> 00:36:13,740 missile entered the frame we could see 770 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:16,809 the whole third stage which is which has 771 00:36:13,739 --> 00:36:18,068 two rocket nozzles like this and one in 772 00:36:16,809 --> 00:36:20,829 the center or gimballed one in the 773 00:36:18,068 --> 00:36:23,289 center filling our frame from a hundred 774 00:36:20,829 --> 00:36:25,539 and about 160 miles that was pretty 775 00:36:23,289 --> 00:36:28,719 exciting hot digs and then on that 776 00:36:25,539 --> 00:36:31,389 telescope we could see the warhead the 777 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,129 dummy warhead according to Jacobs at 778 00:36:31,389 --> 00:36:35,170 this stage the rocket was traveling 779 00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:36,940 between eleven and fourteen thousand 780 00:36:35,170 --> 00:36:40,119 miles per hour when a saucer-shaped 781 00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:42,400 craft entered the frame it flew into the 782 00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:46,510 frame like this and it shot a beam of 783 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:48,130 light at the warhead now remember all 784 00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:50,319 this stuff is flying at several thousand 785 00:36:48,130 --> 00:36:52,180 miles an hour so this thing fires a beam 786 00:36:50,318 --> 00:36:53,920 of light at the warhead hits it far as 787 00:36:52,179 --> 00:36:54,929 another beam of light and then flies out 788 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,250 the way it came in 789 00:36:54,929 --> 00:37:01,539 and the warhead 790 00:36:57,250 --> 00:37:03,400 tumbles out of the hottest fate now when 791 00:37:01,539 --> 00:37:05,320 the lights came on major Mansmann turned 792 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,809 around looked at me and said were you 793 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:13,570 guys screwing around up there and I said 794 00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:18,750 no sir and he said what was that and I 795 00:37:13,570 --> 00:37:18,750 said it looks to me like we got a UFO 796 00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:24,070 nearly two decades later several letters 797 00:37:21,849 --> 00:37:27,820 written by major Florence J Manson were 798 00:37:24,070 --> 00:37:30,280 obtained in one dated March 8th 1983 799 00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:33,580 major Mansmann corroborated lieutenant 800 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,740 Jacobs story in the film the assumption 801 00:37:33,579 --> 00:37:38,319 was at that time extraterrestrial 802 00:37:35,739 --> 00:37:41,618 details would be sketchy and from memory 803 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:45,309 the shape was classic discs the center 804 00:37:41,619 --> 00:37:48,690 seemed to be a raised bubble now major 805 00:37:45,309 --> 00:37:53,799 Mansmann said to me after some 806 00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:56,858 discussion about it and he said you are 807 00:37:53,800 --> 00:38:01,480 never to speak of this again as far as 808 00:37:56,858 --> 00:38:03,489 you're concerned this never happened in 809 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,429 another letter major Mansmann describes 810 00:38:03,489 --> 00:38:08,529 how two agents took the footage they did 811 00:38:06,429 --> 00:38:10,118 not sign out for all the footage but 812 00:38:08,530 --> 00:38:12,190 took out that part that showed the 813 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:15,550 encounter and returned the rest of the 814 00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:17,320 film as a complete package the one agent 815 00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:20,289 stated as he handed me back the film 816 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:23,890 that leaves you off the hook but not off 817 00:38:20,289 --> 00:38:27,130 any disclosure understood naturally my 818 00:38:23,889 --> 00:38:27,759 answer was yes sir major Mansmann never 819 00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:30,190 saw it again 820 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,270 and as far as I'm concerned or nobody 821 00:38:30,190 --> 00:38:32,800 else ever saw it again 822 00:38:31,269 --> 00:38:33,969 certainly not at vandenberg I'm certain 823 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,530 that it left Vandenberg and went 824 00:38:33,969 --> 00:38:40,239 somewhere else another case involving 825 00:38:38,530 --> 00:38:42,310 nuclear missiles happened three years 826 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,949 later at Malmstrom Air Force Base in 827 00:38:42,309 --> 00:38:47,699 Montana this site is the largest missile 828 00:38:44,949 --> 00:38:47,699 field in the world 829 00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:54,940 we simply were told not to talk about it 830 00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:56,980 we did not talk about it anyone as a 831 00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:59,380 Strategic Air Command launch controller 832 00:38:56,980 --> 00:39:00,699 Lieutenant Colonel Robert Salas was one 833 00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:05,070 of the men responsible for the 834 00:39:00,699 --> 00:39:06,429 deployment of nuclear Minuteman missiles 835 00:39:05,070 --> 00:39:14,950 three-two-one 836 00:39:06,429 --> 00:39:16,000 kita these missiles were to be launched 837 00:39:14,949 --> 00:39:21,399 as a counter-attack 838 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:24,460 in the event of nuclear war on March 16 839 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:26,230 1967 lieutenant colonel Salas was on 840 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:28,750 duty when he was contacted by his 841 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:30,880 topside guard stating that there was an 842 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:34,989 unidentified object above the missile 843 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,940 site Salas ordered the guard to observe 844 00:39:34,989 --> 00:39:38,859 and report back on any further 845 00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:41,769 development then he called back within a 846 00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:43,900 few minutes and was very frightened I 847 00:39:41,769 --> 00:39:48,509 could tell by his voice he was extremely 848 00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:51,220 agitated he said there was an object 849 00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:52,240 hovering outside the front cave a 850 00:39:51,219 --> 00:39:56,230 reddish orange 851 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,279 oval-shaped object and it just hung 852 00:39:56,230 --> 00:40:01,360 there quietly 853 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:05,890 I went woke up my commander and told him 854 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:08,530 about the two phone calls and as I was 855 00:40:05,889 --> 00:40:12,190 telling him about the phone calls our 856 00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:16,440 missiles went into no-go condition one 857 00:40:12,190 --> 00:40:19,380 after the other we lost nearly 20 858 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,720 missiles that morning 859 00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:24,869 after speaking with his commander solace 860 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:28,129 again contacted the topside guard the 861 00:40:24,869 --> 00:40:31,409 guard said that the UFO had vanished 862 00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:33,019 basically just took off at high speed 863 00:40:31,409 --> 00:40:36,049 there's no longer there 864 00:40:33,019 --> 00:40:39,480 these missiles are controlled 865 00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:42,120 individually so if something did happen 866 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:44,880 within the system the electrical system 867 00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:48,000 might say or the command control system 868 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:52,530 for one missile one launch facility it 869 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:54,300 would not affect the others and in 870 00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:58,110 addition these missiles are separated by 871 00:40:54,300 --> 00:41:02,550 miles so all these things point to the 872 00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:07,950 fact that somehow this object was able 873 00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:09,990 to disable these missiles later that day 874 00:41:07,949 --> 00:41:11,339 solace was ordered to report to the Air 875 00:41:09,989 --> 00:41:15,329 Force Office of Special Investigations 876 00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:17,539 for debriefing by two OSI officers and 877 00:41:15,329 --> 00:41:21,539 so after we gave him our little debrief 878 00:41:17,539 --> 00:41:24,029 the first thing if OSI guy did is stand 879 00:41:21,539 --> 00:41:26,009 up and said you need to sign these 880 00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:31,230 documents not to disclose any of this to 881 00:41:26,010 --> 00:41:31,860 anyone ever and we signed and basically 882 00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:35,760 that was it 883 00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:38,630 they neither one of them asked too many 884 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,030 more questions so we were escorted out 885 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:44,039 several recently declassified documents 886 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:47,700 supports alice's claims of UFO sightings 887 00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:51,389 near Malmstrom this preliminary report 888 00:41:47,699 --> 00:41:53,939 dated the 24th of march 1967 states that 889 00:41:51,389 --> 00:41:56,940 between the hours of 2100 and Oh 400 890 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:58,559 Mountain Standard Time numerous reports 891 00:41:56,940 --> 00:42:01,440 were received by Malmstrom Air Force 892 00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:05,460 Base agencies of UFO sightings in the 893 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:08,369 Great Falls Montana area it goes on 894 00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:11,130 further to state that reports of a UFO 895 00:42:08,369 --> 00:42:13,650 landing near belt Montana were received 896 00:42:11,130 --> 00:42:17,090 from several sources including deputies 897 00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:19,829 of Cascade County Sheriff's Office 898 00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:22,829 another formerly classified secret Air 899 00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:24,690 Force Telex states that the fact that no 900 00:42:22,829 --> 00:42:26,699 apparent reason for the loss of 10 901 00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:28,800 missiles can be readily identified is 902 00:42:26,699 --> 00:42:31,189 cause for grave concern to this 903 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:34,920 headquarters 904 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:36,960 in 1993 after lieutenant colonel Salas 905 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,909 had retired from the Air Force he tried 906 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,940 to gain access to official Air Force 907 00:42:38,909 --> 00:42:43,710 records of the incident in a letter from 908 00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:46,920 the Department of the Air Force he was 909 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:49,769 informed that no UFO report affected 910 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,990 national security making reference to an 911 00:42:49,769 --> 00:42:55,679 attached Air Force fact sheet which 912 00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:57,779 states no UFO reported investigated and 913 00:42:55,679 --> 00:42:59,969 evaluated by the Air Force has ever 914 00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:05,220 given any indication of threat to our 915 00:42:59,969 --> 00:43:07,318 national security if 20 nuclear missiles 916 00:43:05,219 --> 00:43:12,239 going down at the same time UFOs are 917 00:43:07,318 --> 00:43:15,029 sighted nearly 20 is not a national 918 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:18,629 security incident that I don't know what 919 00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:20,790 is if unidentified flying objects are 920 00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:23,099 capable of disabling our most powerful 921 00:43:20,789 --> 00:43:25,019 weapon systems then understandably the 922 00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:27,950 military would not want to reveal any 923 00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:30,389 information exposing its vulnerability 924 00:43:27,949 --> 00:43:32,129 this is confirmed in a letter from the 925 00:43:30,389 --> 00:43:34,379 Department of the US Air Force which 926 00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:36,990 states as regards this subject matter 927 00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:39,298 mere existence or nonexistence is 928 00:43:36,989 --> 00:43:41,699 currently and properly classified per 929 00:43:39,298 --> 00:43:43,798 executive order and exempt from 930 00:43:41,699 --> 00:43:45,929 mandatory disclosure under the Freedom 931 00:43:43,798 --> 00:43:48,088 of Information Act because it would 932 00:43:45,929 --> 00:43:51,719 reveal defense capability or lack 933 00:43:48,088 --> 00:43:53,818 thereof this letter was a response to an 934 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,848 inquiry made by electronic system 935 00:43:53,818 --> 00:43:58,139 technician Li Graham at the time Mr 936 00:43:56,849 --> 00:44:00,298 Graham worked at Aerojet 937 00:43:58,139 --> 00:44:03,088 a prime contractor to the US Air Force 938 00:44:00,298 --> 00:44:05,909 in developing DSP satellites 939 00:44:03,088 --> 00:44:07,739 he asked the foreign technology division 940 00:44:05,909 --> 00:44:12,149 if the satellite system he worked on 941 00:44:07,739 --> 00:44:15,629 could and had detected UFOs perhaps we 942 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:17,579 need some outside universal threat to 943 00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:19,470 man five separate occasions Ronald 944 00:44:17,579 --> 00:44:21,900 Reagan made references to an outside 945 00:44:19,469 --> 00:44:24,419 alien threat and the unifying effect it 946 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:27,059 would have on us all one such reference 947 00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:28,880 was made in September of 1987 while 948 00:44:27,059 --> 00:44:31,740 addressing the United Nations I 949 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:36,059 occasionally think how quickly our 950 00:44:31,739 --> 00:44:38,578 differences worldwide would vanish if we 951 00:44:36,059 --> 00:44:40,530 were facing an alien threat from outside 952 00:44:38,579 --> 00:44:44,970 this world 953 00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:47,670 and yet I ask you is not an alien force 954 00:44:44,969 --> 00:44:50,730 already among us what could be more 955 00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:53,550 alien to the universal aspirations of 956 00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:55,730 our peoples than war and the threat of 957 00:44:53,550 --> 00:44:55,730 war 958 00:44:59,809 --> 00:45:04,630 [Music] 959 00:45:07,090 --> 00:45:13,120 not every government chooses to deny the 960 00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:15,699 existence of UFOs since the fall of 961 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:17,380 communism in 1989 information 962 00:45:15,699 --> 00:45:20,699 surrounding the subject has become much 963 00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:20,700 more accessible in Russia 964 00:45:25,469 --> 00:45:30,518 cosmonauts Pavel Popovich was one of 965 00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:32,229 Russia's earliest cosmonauts he joins 966 00:45:30,518 --> 00:45:34,838 the ranks of an increasing number of 967 00:45:32,228 --> 00:45:38,098 military personnel who have testified as 968 00:45:34,838 --> 00:45:40,929 to the validity of the UFO phenomena 969 00:45:38,099 --> 00:45:42,910 Major General Popovich shared with us a 970 00:45:40,929 --> 00:45:45,190 sighting he had while flying home from 971 00:45:42,909 --> 00:45:48,098 Washington DC with a delegation of 972 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:49,778 scientists not but you tell me well dig 973 00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:52,028 that equation learning official was 974 00:45:49,778 --> 00:45:54,518 really aluminum matter but modality 975 00:45:52,028 --> 00:45:56,259 William another yeah past Madrid even 976 00:45:54,518 --> 00:45:59,108 there was not a lot of effective stress 977 00:45:56,259 --> 00:46:02,199 or study Cemetery Adam the practice 978 00:45:59,108 --> 00:46:05,380 skillet new colony a morbid Pantera at 979 00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:08,759 mass little bit kilometer and morbid 980 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:12,430 Natisha me a trebuchet a little object 981 00:46:08,759 --> 00:46:14,829 presume ramen a true one day for me 982 00:46:12,429 --> 00:46:19,449 around a bit any true will merely be a 983 00:46:14,829 --> 00:46:21,999 jerk ability no yes rather huge rich 984 00:46:19,449 --> 00:46:23,588 history beetle yes no no get the 985 00:46:21,998 --> 00:46:27,248 typically title mahabharatam 986 00:46:23,588 --> 00:46:29,619 do it a unit on your pocket pilots 987 00:46:27,248 --> 00:46:32,439 contacted ground control ground control 988 00:46:29,619 --> 00:46:34,210 did not detect anything on radar even 989 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:38,858 though the object could be seen by all 990 00:46:34,210 --> 00:46:41,499 occupants of the plane partial peril in 991 00:46:38,858 --> 00:46:44,409 inclusiveness Kurisu yes Lee machine is 992 00:46:41,498 --> 00:46:46,659 yet a pre Manhattan diverse at PD self 993 00:46:44,409 --> 00:46:48,879 in the tissue kilometer of chest don't 994 00:46:46,659 --> 00:46:53,318 partial so scholarship repair a jet a 995 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:55,420 politician but most on a bananas no Anna 996 00:46:53,318 --> 00:46:58,239 bistra no pasticcio 997 00:46:55,420 --> 00:47:04,139 yet more that she completes it sore 998 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:06,548 aquatic impression a bananas ensure in 999 00:47:04,139 --> 00:47:11,068 academic in Victoria to absolute 1000 00:47:06,548 --> 00:47:11,068 penitent even among seven photos of you 1001 00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:19,298 special intelligence of the century from 1002 00:47:17,838 --> 00:47:22,969 space communication of Russia 1003 00:47:19,298 --> 00:47:25,159 Major General buy cigarettes leave 1004 00:47:22,969 --> 00:47:28,799 [Music] 1005 00:47:25,159 --> 00:47:32,118 just outside Moscow is star city this is 1006 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,119 the home of the Russian space program 1007 00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:41,980 [Music] 1008 00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:51,900 during the space race of the late 50s 1009 00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:56,449 and early 60s the Russians also 1010 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:56,450 experienced numerous sightings of UFOs 1011 00:48:07,298 --> 00:48:12,469 in Star City we met with general Alexia 1012 00:48:10,518 --> 00:48:16,688 who spoke with us about the history of 1013 00:48:12,469 --> 00:48:16,688 unidentified flying objects over Russia 1014 00:48:18,668 --> 00:48:25,938 she spent an apipa Legolas toe at asoto 1015 00:48:22,579 --> 00:48:30,278 drop where Americans IDO molinaro's 1016 00:48:25,938 --> 00:48:37,608 ruski duel in a poncy know yet Amira 1017 00:48:30,278 --> 00:48:42,458 CCMS room the 3d Washington Missouri LMS 1018 00:48:37,608 --> 00:48:45,918 is neutral casa de la bola country with 1019 00:48:42,458 --> 00:48:49,489 position of the Whitlam America subset 1020 00:48:45,918 --> 00:48:52,009 evil scheme serious on spirits during 1021 00:48:49,489 --> 00:48:54,168 the cold war with the Soviet Union the 1022 00:48:52,009 --> 00:48:57,048 u-2 spy plane was one of the most highly 1023 00:48:54,168 --> 00:48:58,998 classified projects in the late 50s 1024 00:48:57,048 --> 00:49:01,458 Gordon Cooper was involved with its 1025 00:48:58,998 --> 00:49:03,768 research and development being familiar 1026 00:49:01,458 --> 00:49:05,899 with that eras cutting-edge technology 1027 00:49:03,768 --> 00:49:08,688 Cooper was certain that the craft he'd 1028 00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:12,259 seen was not manufactured on this planet 1029 00:49:08,688 --> 00:49:17,088 I mean that we didn't have any vehicles 1030 00:49:12,259 --> 00:49:18,650 of that kind and I was 99.9 percent sure 1031 00:49:17,088 --> 00:49:19,808 that the Russians didn't have any of 1032 00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:22,778 that time either 1033 00:49:19,809 --> 00:49:24,589 yes or received as a given ah 1034 00:49:22,778 --> 00:49:26,900 statistically is possible 1035 00:49:24,588 --> 00:49:28,578 what should the quiz Piscotty I was 1036 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:32,239 happy Dussehra Guerrero right in your 1037 00:49:28,579 --> 00:49:32,749 podium with the news of the war on you 1038 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:37,119 later 1039 00:49:32,748 --> 00:49:37,118 no achieve the fantasy 1040 00:49:38,090 --> 00:49:43,190 [Music] 1041 00:49:39,940 --> 00:49:46,190 by the 70s the Russian military began to 1042 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:49,490 take the UFO subject very seriously but 1043 00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:52,519 open formats in the stick look a quarter 1044 00:49:49,489 --> 00:49:55,519 aronia doing very queasy thunderstruck 1045 00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:57,980 they always immediately forward to you 1046 00:49:55,519 --> 00:50:02,480 million years a [ __ ] will only was 1047 00:49:57,980 --> 00:50:04,429 work at this point the Soviet Union 1048 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,469 allocated a great sum of money towards 1049 00:50:04,429 --> 00:50:10,879 the thorough investigation of the UFO 1050 00:50:06,469 --> 00:50:16,189 phenomena he would querida attributable 1051 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:20,599 opera villa a lot Lewis miss of worship 1052 00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:25,429 Livia name what took that will actually 1053 00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:30,199 do much stone this is weakness not a 1054 00:50:25,429 --> 00:50:32,690 haste after the fall of the Soviet Union 1055 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:35,839 glasnost brought about a new era of 1056 00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:38,030 openness we traveled to mineral water a 1057 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,010 city near the Chechnyan border where we 1058 00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:43,730 met with Deputy Minister of the Interior 1059 00:50:40,010 --> 00:50:45,650 Colonel Levitch he shared with us a 1060 00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:48,380 sighting he had while flying in a 1061 00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:51,500 commercial jet over Russia he along with 1062 00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:54,200 100 other passengers noticed a spherical 1063 00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:59,059 object outside the plane let that shark 1064 00:50:54,199 --> 00:51:02,919 not molinos miss Josette Keveza Zarek 0 1065 00:50:59,059 --> 00:51:06,920 watson i misty a car as she showers to a 1066 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:12,889 NASA probe our diet national model yet 1067 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:14,960 oddly was parrot Ottawa chess Academy I 1068 00:51:12,889 --> 00:51:16,969 presume Nellis we're apart of mineral in 1069 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:22,389 a wooded talk attacked a materially is 1070 00:51:16,969 --> 00:51:22,389 we do not pregnant 1071 00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:27,090 this sighting led the colonel to do 1072 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,669 extensive research on UFO incidents 1073 00:51:27,090 --> 00:51:33,809 throughout Russia booster service 1074 00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:35,849 console using bolas activity ma ma Pro 1075 00:51:33,809 --> 00:51:38,250 stoppin asli shatru bt resolution 1076 00:51:35,849 --> 00:51:42,269 echoing story- public art Sena bola 1077 00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:46,889 Nostra Aetate Auto V neato yashi 1078 00:51:42,269 --> 00:51:49,230 thyristor at Critias very sanitary at 1079 00:51:46,889 --> 00:51:52,379 Ritter get him 1080 00:51:49,230 --> 00:52:04,920 Nepali Nehemiah Chicago Hawaii an opera 1081 00:51:52,380 --> 00:52:07,950 Nisha symbology 140 miles north of 1082 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:10,619 London is Bentwaters England in December 1083 00:52:07,949 --> 00:52:12,629 of 1980 the United States Air Force Base 1084 00:52:10,619 --> 00:52:14,789 armed with nuclear weapons was 1085 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:18,680 reportedly the site of a series of UFO 1086 00:52:14,789 --> 00:52:18,679 encounters over a three-day period 1087 00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:38,130 we're responding to reports of a 1088 00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:39,990 possible downed aircraft three patrolmen 1089 00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:41,599 were sent out to Rendlesham forest to 1090 00:52:39,989 --> 00:52:44,759 investigate 1091 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:46,710 airman first class Edward Caban zeg was 1092 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:50,760 one of the security officers present 1093 00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:53,460 that night we were on security one which 1094 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:57,150 was in charge of mobile security for the 1095 00:52:53,460 --> 00:53:00,059 Woodbridge Base and we responded to 1096 00:52:57,150 --> 00:53:02,730 jimbros this sighting of something out 1097 00:53:00,059 --> 00:53:05,070 on the edge of the flight line with a 1098 00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:06,659 controller on the radio broadcast over 1099 00:53:05,070 --> 00:53:09,450 the air that go down and check out a 1100 00:53:06,659 --> 00:53:11,639 possible UFO another security officer 1101 00:53:09,449 --> 00:53:14,730 present was airman first class John 1102 00:53:11,639 --> 00:53:16,710 Burroughs so it was like me I was 1103 00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:19,409 Penniston me and a cabana Zak to my 1104 00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:21,570 right it was apparent that that wasn't 1105 00:53:19,409 --> 00:53:24,299 an aircraft crash we knew that much 1106 00:53:21,570 --> 00:53:26,700 staff sergeant Jim Penniston was sent 1107 00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:29,460 down to lead Burroughs and cabin SOG to 1108 00:53:26,699 --> 00:53:33,649 investigate the object there was a craft 1109 00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:36,059 of some sort that was sitting just 1110 00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:37,619 inside the tree line as the three 1111 00:53:36,059 --> 00:53:39,599 officers approached the alleged crash 1112 00:53:37,619 --> 00:53:41,609 site it became obvious that it wasn't 1113 00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,960 what they were prepared for Burroughs 1114 00:53:41,610 --> 00:53:44,700 would say to Jim Penniston do you see 1115 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,429 that you see do you see what's out there 1116 00:53:44,699 --> 00:53:50,759 at that at the edge of the trees it was 1117 00:53:47,429 --> 00:53:52,079 just bright lights you know and and the 1118 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,670 only way you can describe it is it I 1119 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:55,319 guess you'd call it an object at the 1120 00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:57,570 point in time three of us had direct 1121 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,120 observation of the craft the closer we 1122 00:53:57,570 --> 00:54:01,950 would get to it we would lose 1123 00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:05,190 communication you know with central 1124 00:54:01,949 --> 00:54:07,109 security control Kabam sag was sent back 1125 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:08,940 towards the base to help transmit radio 1126 00:54:07,110 --> 00:54:11,309 communications between the other two 1127 00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:13,530 officers who went further to investigate 1128 00:54:11,309 --> 00:54:15,840 the only noise we heard out in the woods 1129 00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:17,880 was the the noise of the animals just as 1130 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:20,850 burles and I entered a tree line the 1131 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,650 shape of the craft was defined the 1132 00:54:20,849 --> 00:54:24,599 closer we got the more the white light 1133 00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:28,680 dissipated but what appeared was a 1134 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:32,219 trying of craft when we approached it it 1135 00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:33,899 was oh I say we measured probably about 1136 00:54:32,219 --> 00:54:38,879 nine feet 1137 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:40,710 long maybe six feet high a little higher 1138 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,838 made maybe six and a half feet 1139 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:44,909 the lighting emanated from the fabric of 1140 00:54:42,838 --> 00:54:46,500 the craft and it would actually move 1141 00:54:44,909 --> 00:54:48,838 around I mean it would move you'd have 1142 00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:51,028 different locations where maybe a little 1143 00:54:48,838 --> 00:54:53,969 blue lighting was going into it or maybe 1144 00:54:51,028 --> 00:54:55,889 a little rat and then there must have 1145 00:54:53,969 --> 00:54:58,588 been some type of lighting underneath of 1146 00:54:55,889 --> 00:55:02,548 it because it's silhouetted the aircraft 1147 00:54:58,588 --> 00:55:04,710 itself what I did that night is I had my 1148 00:55:02,548 --> 00:55:07,048 notebook with me I went around and 1149 00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:09,809 started doing a 360 walk around the area 1150 00:55:07,048 --> 00:55:11,818 taking recording my observations I was 1151 00:55:09,809 --> 00:55:14,210 looking underneath the craft like that I 1152 00:55:11,818 --> 00:55:18,389 had taken quite detailed notes on that 1153 00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:22,230 type of aircraft still unknown no 1154 00:55:18,389 --> 00:55:25,739 apparent landing gear no sound but 1155 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:28,219 appears to be pulsating some house yeah 1156 00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:30,149 it was pretty nerve-wracking I mean 1157 00:55:28,219 --> 00:55:32,308 there's something there right in front 1158 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:36,019 of you don't know what it is I would go 1159 00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:39,470 ahead and feel the craft which was warm 1160 00:55:36,019 --> 00:55:42,659 there was static electricity in the air 1161 00:55:39,469 --> 00:55:45,298 very warm to touch identifying markings 1162 00:55:42,659 --> 00:55:48,058 are on left front side as I came around 1163 00:55:45,298 --> 00:55:53,489 to the one side of the of the craft 1164 00:55:48,059 --> 00:55:55,470 there was itching on the face meat just 1165 00:55:53,489 --> 00:55:57,538 above the center part of the craft 1166 00:55:55,469 --> 00:55:59,278 itself of course this has done all 1167 00:55:57,539 --> 00:56:01,950 freehand as I was walking around the 1168 00:55:59,278 --> 00:56:04,409 craft but these symbols ran from left to 1169 00:56:01,949 --> 00:56:07,129 right across and then underneath the 1170 00:56:04,409 --> 00:56:10,409 those that line of symbols was this 1171 00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:12,269 which is triangular and some type of 1172 00:56:10,409 --> 00:56:14,548 circle here is some type of circle here 1173 00:56:12,269 --> 00:56:16,719 in a larger circle here and of course 1174 00:56:14,548 --> 00:56:19,659 all this was filled in 1175 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:22,239 would be like the itchy part of it like 1176 00:56:19,659 --> 00:56:23,920 you an etched glass so those symbols 1177 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,779 were raised and they had they have a 1178 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,530 different feel than the rest of the 1179 00:56:25,780 --> 00:56:32,130 fabric of the craft 1180 00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:34,410 liftoff occurred at 2:45 with no sound 1181 00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:37,858 no air disturbance and no other 1182 00:56:34,409 --> 00:56:40,078 identifying markings myself and at that 1183 00:56:37,858 --> 00:56:43,559 time Burroughs we were fairly good 1184 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:47,220 distance maybe 30 feet away from it and 1185 00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:48,989 we had taken a defensive position on 1186 00:56:47,219 --> 00:56:50,549 that on the ground I mean it was 1187 00:56:48,989 --> 00:56:52,618 threatening to Mia but it wasn't the 1188 00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:54,839 type that you were going to shoot on it 1189 00:56:52,619 --> 00:56:56,309 and also the fact was that what would 1190 00:56:54,838 --> 00:57:00,568 happen if I woulda shot out 1191 00:56:56,309 --> 00:57:04,858 well what good would it have done and 1192 00:57:00,568 --> 00:57:08,550 then they started moving back in between 1193 00:57:04,858 --> 00:57:12,000 the trees with absolutely no sound no 1194 00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:14,190 air disturbance at all whatever it was 1195 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,838 went up and shot back up out over the 1196 00:57:14,190 --> 00:57:20,450 trees it's like he was there and was 1197 00:57:15,838 --> 00:57:26,009 gone take off unknown speed and I write 1198 00:57:20,449 --> 00:57:27,088 impossible details of this sighting were 1199 00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:29,160 first made public 1200 00:57:27,088 --> 00:57:30,809 when this Air Force memo was obtained 1201 00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:34,379 through the Freedom of Information Act 1202 00:57:30,809 --> 00:57:37,230 it states the object was described as 1203 00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:39,568 being triangular in shape approximately 1204 00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:42,329 two to three meters across the base an 1205 00:57:39,568 --> 00:57:44,338 approximately two meters high it had a 1206 00:57:42,329 --> 00:57:47,339 red light on top and a bank of blue 1207 00:57:44,338 --> 00:57:48,989 lights underneath as the patrolman 1208 00:57:47,338 --> 00:57:52,049 approached the object it maneuvered 1209 00:57:48,989 --> 00:57:53,939 through the trees and disappeared this 1210 00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:57,030 Air Force memo was written by Deputy 1211 00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:58,889 base commander Charles halt General 1212 00:57:57,030 --> 00:58:01,650 Gordon Williams who was commander of the 1213 00:57:58,889 --> 00:58:03,989 base at the time denies either seeing or 1214 00:58:01,650 --> 00:58:06,358 authorizing the release of this memo in 1215 00:58:03,989 --> 00:58:08,969 a tape recording presented to general 1216 00:58:06,358 --> 00:58:11,519 Williams airman Burroughs questions how 1217 00:58:08,969 --> 00:58:26,159 a story of this magnitude could escape 1218 00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:29,259 his oversight let me ask that last part 1219 00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:31,539 about that memo okay yeah I agree 1220 00:58:29,260 --> 00:58:33,310 that that went under the door and I 1221 00:58:31,539 --> 00:58:35,320 didn't see it now did he have a 1222 00:58:33,309 --> 00:58:36,940 motivation and doing that did he think 1223 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,100 that if he brought it in to me I would 1224 00:58:36,940 --> 00:58:40,480 have stepped on it I certainly would 1225 00:58:39,099 --> 00:58:43,119 have looked at it very carefully because 1226 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,809 it had some things in there that I don't 1227 00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:48,250 think we were prepared to defend 1228 00:58:45,809 --> 00:58:50,529 Lieutenant Colonel halt was most likely 1229 00:58:48,250 --> 00:58:52,599 motivated to write this memo because he 1230 00:58:50,530 --> 00:58:55,360 too was a witness to a second occurrence 1231 00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:57,849 as he himself states at the bottom of 1232 00:58:55,360 --> 00:59:00,340 the document numerous individuals 1233 00:58:57,849 --> 00:59:03,699 including the undersigned witnessed the 1234 00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:05,950 activities signed Charles I halt 1235 00:59:03,699 --> 00:59:09,879 Lieutenant Colonel United States Air 1236 00:59:05,949 --> 00:59:28,960 Force he captured the encounter on his 1237 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:32,170 pocket I believe that he went under 1238 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:34,500 debunk the whole situation and I think 1239 00:59:32,170 --> 00:59:34,500 he got 1240 00:59:34,820 --> 00:59:42,950 in the middle of a situation he couldn't 1241 00:59:37,219 --> 00:59:45,049 explain you he came toward us had 1242 00:59:42,949 --> 00:59:47,299 stopped overhead and sent down a beam 1243 00:59:45,050 --> 00:59:48,710 the beam wasn't like an ordinary being 1244 00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:50,480 the light that radiates out it was a 1245 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:52,309 focused beam like a laser beam that 1246 00:59:50,480 --> 01:00:02,150 illuminated the grind a small circle 1247 00:59:52,309 --> 01:00:04,219 probably two-foot or so in diameter when 1248 01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:06,110 I gave the tape that I made to my 1249 01:00:04,219 --> 01:00:08,599 superior he took I'm plated to third Air 1250 01:00:06,110 --> 01:00:10,579 Force two to the commander and a staff 1251 01:00:08,599 --> 01:00:11,989 and they all scratched her head and the 1252 01:00:10,579 --> 01:00:13,759 answer finally was it's a British a 1253 01:00:11,989 --> 01:00:15,859 fairly visit them give it back to them 1254 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,440 hence I wrote the memo that has become 1255 01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:20,690 public I think that the halt was 1256 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:24,950 definitely wrong and doing that once 1257 01:00:20,690 --> 01:00:26,389 that cat was out of the bag you know I 1258 01:00:24,949 --> 01:00:32,179 couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together 1259 01:00:26,389 --> 01:00:34,099 again and it lived its own life what did 1260 01:00:32,179 --> 01:00:37,099 happen over a period of three days at 1261 01:00:34,099 --> 01:00:39,799 Bentwaters did a UFO actually land at a 1262 01:00:37,099 --> 01:00:41,929 u.s. airbase in England that is one 1263 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,130 explanation that it actually happened as 1264 01:00:41,929 --> 01:00:49,879 Colonel Holt reported the other 1265 01:00:45,130 --> 01:00:53,119 explanation is that it didn't and in 1266 01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:55,610 that case one is bound to assume that 1267 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:58,400 Colonel Holt and all his men were 1268 01:00:55,610 --> 01:01:00,349 hallucinating the British Ministry of 1269 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,329 Defense's position is that nothing that 1270 01:01:00,349 --> 01:01:05,089 took place at Bentwaters was of any 1271 01:01:02,329 --> 01:01:06,860 defence interest this view is criticized 1272 01:01:05,090 --> 01:01:10,250 by former chief of the Defence Staff 1273 01:01:06,860 --> 01:01:13,970 Admiral Lord Hill Norton that the 1274 01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:17,150 colonel of a an American Air Force Base 1275 01:01:13,969 --> 01:01:19,339 in Suffolk and his merry men are 1276 01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:22,849 hallucinating when there are nuclear 1277 01:01:19,340 --> 01:01:25,940 armed aircraft on the base must be of 1278 01:01:22,849 --> 01:01:28,730 Defence interest if indeed what he says 1279 01:01:25,940 --> 01:01:31,280 took place did take place and why on 1280 01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:35,840 earth should he make it up then surely 1281 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:39,260 the entry of a vehicle from outer space 1282 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:42,230 certainly not man-made to a defence base 1283 01:01:39,260 --> 01:01:44,840 in this country also cannot fail to be 1284 01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:46,490 of Defence interest the public position 1285 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,940 of the Ministry of Defence is the 1286 01:01:46,489 --> 01:01:50,389 UFOs posed no threat to the defense of 1287 01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:52,550 the realm 1288 01:01:50,389 --> 01:01:54,529 well I quite understand such statements 1289 01:01:52,550 --> 01:01:56,810 and indeed during my tour of duty I 1290 01:01:54,530 --> 01:02:01,010 probably wrote statements like that 1291 01:01:56,809 --> 01:02:03,799 from 1992 to 1995 the British government 1292 01:02:01,010 --> 01:02:04,580 employed Nick Pope to investigate UFO 1293 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,789 reports 1294 01:02:04,579 --> 01:02:09,710 he now differs with their position while 1295 01:02:07,789 --> 01:02:13,190 it's true to say that there's been no 1296 01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:16,039 overt hostile action it certainly seems 1297 01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:18,260 to me premature to say that there is 1298 01:02:16,039 --> 01:02:21,380 nothing of any defense significance when 1299 01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:24,440 you don't know what they are they claim 1300 01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:26,930 that something from outside the Earth's 1301 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,230 atmosphere landed at their Air Force 1302 01:02:26,929 --> 01:02:32,629 Base they went and stood by it they 1303 01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:34,550 inspected it they photographed it the 1304 01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:36,260 following day they took tests on the 1305 01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:59,599 worth of ground where it had been and 1306 01:02:36,260 --> 01:03:01,099 found radioactive traces out there in 1307 01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,809 the area the next morning after we got 1308 01:03:01,099 --> 01:03:04,430 off duty and found areas where something 1309 01:03:02,809 --> 01:03:07,309 was damaged that's when your even more 1310 01:03:04,429 --> 01:03:10,309 like what's going on I think it's fairly 1311 01:03:07,309 --> 01:03:13,820 well known that Colonel Holt and his 1312 01:03:10,309 --> 01:03:16,338 team examined the landing site very 1313 01:03:13,820 --> 01:03:20,660 carefully both the damage to the trees 1314 01:03:16,338 --> 01:03:22,940 and the three indentations found on the 1315 01:03:20,659 --> 01:03:26,088 forest floor where this metallic craft 1316 01:03:22,940 --> 01:03:28,400 was seen to land Jim went back two days 1317 01:03:26,088 --> 01:03:29,929 later and made plaster casts you can see 1318 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,900 the sides it's approximately eight to 1319 01:03:29,929 --> 01:03:36,259 ten inches across and about three inches 1320 01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:38,420 deep at its maximum point this is a cast 1321 01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:40,190 number - he made an impression of all 1322 01:03:38,420 --> 01:03:41,670 three of the indentations and they were 1323 01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:44,159 all identical 1324 01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:45,990 the united states air force position is 1325 01:03:44,159 --> 01:03:48,420 that there was a sighting on the base 1326 01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:50,969 witnessed by both high-ranking officers 1327 01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:53,119 and base security police however 1328 01:03:50,969 --> 01:03:56,009 according to the united states air force 1329 01:03:53,119 --> 01:04:00,630 military personnel mistook a stationary 1330 01:03:56,010 --> 01:04:04,680 lighthouse for a UFO I was told to sign 1331 01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:07,950 some paperwork stating that what I saw 1332 01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:10,318 out there was just the beacon that was 1333 01:04:07,949 --> 01:04:12,980 that was out there and that and that 1334 01:04:10,318 --> 01:04:15,630 there was nothing out of the ordinary 1335 01:04:12,980 --> 01:04:18,059 45 been an investigation on the ground 1336 01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:21,000 with a craft that that you're touching 1337 01:04:18,059 --> 01:04:23,460 and feeling and observing and doing a 1338 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,159 walk around to be confused with lights 1339 01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:30,210 in the sky or a lighthouse or just 1340 01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:33,000 totally absurd lighthouses flied and 1341 01:04:30,210 --> 01:04:34,889 it'll go up they don't go back you know 1342 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,420 and and you could say well if you were a 1343 01:04:34,889 --> 01:04:37,798 half a mile away and you thought 1344 01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:39,510 something moved up and the beacon was 1345 01:04:37,798 --> 01:04:41,219 thrown think we were right on top of 1346 01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:42,720 whatever it was right there so there's 1347 01:04:41,219 --> 01:04:47,449 no way that was the lighthouse beacon 1348 01:04:42,719 --> 01:04:51,149 three competent Air Force guys thought 1349 01:04:47,449 --> 01:04:52,649 told not to ever talk about it georgina 1350 01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:54,900 Bruni has been researching the 1351 01:04:52,650 --> 01:04:57,809 Bentwaters incident for over five years 1352 01:04:54,900 --> 01:05:00,480 her book you can't tell the people is 1353 01:04:57,809 --> 01:05:03,210 the definitive account of this case in 1354 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,710 May of 2001 she was one of the first to 1355 01:05:03,210 --> 01:05:06,990 receive a number of previously 1356 01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:09,079 classified documents from the Ministry 1357 01:05:06,989 --> 01:05:11,518 of Defense about the Bentwaters incident 1358 01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:13,500 these documents are known as the 1359 01:05:11,518 --> 01:05:17,068 Rendlesham files in one of the first 1360 01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:21,358 documents in the file we have now in 1361 01:05:17,068 --> 01:05:23,400 black and white that general Gabriel who 1362 01:05:21,358 --> 01:05:25,949 was the chief of the United States Air 1363 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,889 Force in Europe was handed taped 1364 01:05:25,949 --> 01:05:30,629 evidence why would general Gabriel one 1365 01:05:28,889 --> 01:05:33,150 of the most important members of the US 1366 01:05:30,630 --> 01:05:35,130 military in Europe be handed evidence 1367 01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:38,009 for the incident unless it was of 1368 01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:39,450 extreme significance you had the largest 1369 01:05:38,009 --> 01:05:41,969 tech fighter we immunized 1370 01:05:39,449 --> 01:05:43,348 air force okay through the British they 1371 01:05:41,969 --> 01:05:45,929 released documents admitting that 1372 01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:47,789 general Gabriel came down and took all 1373 01:05:45,929 --> 01:05:49,318 the information and has proven that the 1374 01:05:47,789 --> 01:05:50,219 stuff disappeared the word all the 1375 01:05:49,318 --> 01:05:52,289 reports go 1376 01:05:50,219 --> 01:05:54,719 you know we had gun general Gabler off 1377 01:05:52,289 --> 01:05:58,588 there we had who was the top Air Force 1378 01:05:54,719 --> 01:06:00,239 general in Europe there three days later 1379 01:05:58,588 --> 01:06:03,239 why was he there 1380 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:05,250 well he's there to manage what was going 1381 01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:07,769 on he was there for information control 1382 01:06:05,250 --> 01:06:10,710 he was there to obtain evidence he was 1383 01:06:07,769 --> 01:06:13,259 there for all that stuff that they're 1384 01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:15,298 designing happen the other significant 1385 01:06:13,260 --> 01:06:17,549 factor is that this is not your father 1386 01:06:15,298 --> 01:06:19,920 just talking here we have the Defense 1387 01:06:17,548 --> 01:06:23,009 Intelligence staff carrying out their 1388 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,470 own investigation and admitting that the 1389 01:06:23,010 --> 01:06:28,349 radiation readings were 10 times higher 1390 01:06:25,469 --> 01:06:30,029 than normal one other document released 1391 01:06:28,349 --> 01:06:32,869 in the Rendlesham files is this 1392 01:06:30,030 --> 01:06:35,130 defensive press line issued by the mo d 1393 01:06:32,869 --> 01:06:37,500 instructing the authorities how they 1394 01:06:35,130 --> 01:06:40,260 should respond to the media it states 1395 01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:43,230 that mo d was satisfied that there was 1396 01:06:40,260 --> 01:06:45,450 nothing of defense interest and there 1397 01:06:43,230 --> 01:06:48,929 was no question of any contact with 1398 01:06:45,449 --> 01:06:52,108 alien beings we were told not to talk 1399 01:06:48,929 --> 01:06:56,759 about it so we didn't what we saw out 1400 01:06:52,108 --> 01:06:58,980 there was definitely unidentifiable what 1401 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,869 I saw did not appear to be man-made way 1402 01:06:58,980 --> 01:07:03,059 beyond any technology we had at the time 1403 01:07:00,869 --> 01:07:05,338 and probably even do today I could never 1404 01:07:03,059 --> 01:07:09,980 identify what it was that's why I was 1405 01:07:05,338 --> 01:07:09,980 called UFO I could say without a doubt 1406 01:07:13,018 --> 01:07:16,698 that were probably not alone 1407 01:07:21,789 --> 01:07:26,800 in the southwest of England just outside 1408 01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:31,710 Somerset there was another sighting it 1409 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:35,440 was captured on videotape got it got it 1410 01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:37,980 yeah it's coming this way yeah yeah I 1411 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,980 can see 1412 01:07:38,409 --> 01:07:51,969 is it it is the UFO that you saw and 1413 01:07:48,739 --> 01:07:55,309 originally was spotted talks me about 1414 01:07:51,969 --> 01:07:59,230 200 yards to the left of the aerial mast 1415 01:07:55,309 --> 01:08:03,079 and I suppose it was probably at about 1416 01:07:59,230 --> 01:08:05,380 500 feet up it was very low in the sky 1417 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:07,460 and this is a very communicative 1418 01:08:05,380 --> 01:08:12,320 communications they've got three 1419 01:08:07,460 --> 01:08:15,650 military mass on there and it sends out 1420 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:18,170 what is a navigational signal which is 1421 01:08:15,650 --> 01:08:20,390 used for aircraft the other two areas 1422 01:08:18,170 --> 01:08:23,000 that are near the top we're not quite 1423 01:08:20,390 --> 01:08:25,930 sure but there is a post frequency that 1424 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,930 comes from them 1425 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:37,819 the actual UFO from the time it was 1426 01:08:34,819 --> 01:08:40,880 first seen by rod Dickinson who did the 1427 01:08:37,819 --> 01:08:44,000 filming it lasted approximately 12 1428 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:47,750 minutes so it was quite a long period of 1429 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:49,939 time for a daylight sighting to occur we 1430 01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:51,649 took this tape to be analyzed by Lucas 1431 01:08:49,939 --> 01:08:53,960 films special effects division 1432 01:08:51,649 --> 01:08:57,559 Industrial Light and Magic in San Rafael 1433 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:59,840 California here we met with Bill George 1434 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:02,570 an academy award-winning visual effects 1435 01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:04,159 supervisor over the last 20 years his 1436 01:09:02,569 --> 01:09:06,639 special effects have been featured in 1437 01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:09,769 films like Star Wars The Phantom Menace 1438 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:11,630 the optical zoom certainly would he 1439 01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:13,550 analyzed this footage to determine its 1440 01:09:11,630 --> 01:09:15,619 authenticity there are several things 1441 01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:18,529 that I see when the footage is running 1442 01:09:15,619 --> 01:09:20,359 that tells me this was actually there 1443 01:09:18,529 --> 01:09:23,000 when this was filmed first of all it's 1444 01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:24,920 the shake the shake if you were to give 1445 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,539 me a background plate of just the sky 1446 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,460 and say we want you to take this image 1447 01:09:26,539 --> 01:09:30,289 of a flying saucer and match it in 1448 01:09:28,460 --> 01:09:31,760 that's something that's technically very 1449 01:09:30,289 --> 01:09:33,590 difficult to do because you would have 1450 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,730 to match putting the two elements 1451 01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:37,340 together you would have to match the 1452 01:09:34,729 --> 01:09:39,169 shake now certainly we have computers 1453 01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:41,090 that can track that but this is just 1454 01:09:39,170 --> 01:09:43,489 this is all over the map a couple other 1455 01:09:41,090 --> 01:09:45,529 cues that tell me that this is actually 1456 01:09:43,489 --> 01:09:47,210 there when it was being filmed was that 1457 01:09:45,529 --> 01:09:50,179 is going in and out of focus with the 1458 01:09:47,210 --> 01:09:51,829 background because the camera is trying 1459 01:09:50,180 --> 01:09:53,690 to compensate and trying to fo get it to 1460 01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:55,159 probably have some sort of autofocus so 1461 01:09:53,689 --> 01:09:58,309 the background is going in and out of 1462 01:09:55,159 --> 01:10:00,019 focus along with the object there are 1463 01:09:58,310 --> 01:10:01,820 these dark things flying through frame 1464 01:10:00,020 --> 01:10:03,200 and if someone was to have to put that 1465 01:10:01,819 --> 01:10:04,880 in there they would have to composite it 1466 01:10:03,199 --> 01:10:07,130 in behind the birds it's a it would be a 1467 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:09,380 technical problem Bill George couldn't 1468 01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:11,449 say it was a real UFO but he could 1469 01:10:09,380 --> 01:10:14,150 confirm for us that the object was not 1470 01:10:11,449 --> 01:10:16,220 added in later given those Clues I'm 1471 01:10:14,149 --> 01:10:20,929 convinced that this object was there 1472 01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:23,180 when this person was was taping in 1968 1473 01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:26,000 the UFO subject was being debated at the 1474 01:10:23,180 --> 01:10:27,829 highest levels of government the debate 1475 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,859 was triggered by a major sighting over 1476 01:10:27,829 --> 01:10:32,439 the state of Michigan 1477 01:10:29,859 --> 01:10:34,750 I could see the light on either side and 1478 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,399 then the red light was sort of casting a 1479 01:10:34,750 --> 01:10:39,279 glow for the whole thing so it looked 1480 01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:42,009 like a round dip when it got to the top 1481 01:10:39,279 --> 01:10:44,229 of the trees it stopped you know a blue 1482 01:10:42,010 --> 01:10:46,600 and a white light come on good evening 1483 01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:49,959 Walter Cronkite reported the incident on 1484 01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:51,100 CBS residents of the area saw it too the 1485 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,139 police saw it 1486 01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:55,030 sergeant Newell Snyder of the Sheriff's 1487 01:10:53,139 --> 01:10:57,850 Office remembered it well enough to draw 1488 01:10:55,029 --> 01:10:59,948 it what do you think it was off they 1489 01:10:57,850 --> 01:11:02,230 called a flying saucer that's what it is 1490 01:10:59,948 --> 01:11:05,319 the Air Force Senate consultant Alan 1491 01:11:02,229 --> 01:11:05,888 Hynek in to review what had been going 1492 01:11:05,319 --> 01:11:10,899 on 1493 01:11:05,889 --> 01:11:12,969 and Hynek off about one or two days on 1494 01:11:10,899 --> 01:11:15,039 the field had to face a big press 1495 01:11:12,969 --> 01:11:17,829 conference he said well I don't know 1496 01:11:15,039 --> 01:11:20,618 what was going on it may have been Marsh 1497 01:11:17,829 --> 01:11:22,899 gas a little bit of swamp light appears 1498 01:11:20,618 --> 01:11:24,969 here it goes out another one appears 1499 01:11:22,899 --> 01:11:27,399 over here that goes out and but the 1500 01:11:24,969 --> 01:11:28,960 illusion is you from a distance is that 1501 01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:32,259 the objects that moved back and forth 1502 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:35,460 the public was absolutely furious and 1503 01:11:32,260 --> 01:11:37,000 the Prescott made fun of it and 1504 01:11:35,460 --> 01:11:40,060 congressman falled 1505 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:44,139 of Michigan thought he would take action 1506 01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:48,520 and he calls the public hearings by the 1507 01:11:44,139 --> 01:11:50,859 Armed Services Committee this matter in 1508 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:53,590 an exclusive telephone interview the 1509 01:11:50,859 --> 01:11:56,579 late President Gerald Ford confirmed his 1510 01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:56,579 involvement in the investigation 1511 01:12:00,779 --> 01:12:10,329 services such an investigation be taken 1512 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,100 Congress heard testimony from a number 1513 01:12:10,329 --> 01:12:13,988 of witnesses 1514 01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:16,210 former Marine Corps Maj Donald Kehoe 1515 01:12:13,988 --> 01:12:18,638 asserted that there was far more to UFOs 1516 01:12:16,210 --> 01:12:20,500 and swamp gas in fact the Air Force at 1517 01:12:18,639 --> 01:12:22,449 one time had a top-secret estimate that 1518 01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:26,198 these things were interplanetary space 1519 01:12:22,448 --> 01:12:29,069 ships today we have over 10,000 cases of 1520 01:12:26,198 --> 01:12:31,779 wright-patterson air force base of what 1521 01:12:29,069 --> 01:12:33,609 646 of these remaining 1522 01:12:31,779 --> 01:12:35,948 the Air Force has been accused from 1523 01:12:33,609 --> 01:12:37,779 time-to-time of hiding information about 1524 01:12:35,948 --> 01:12:38,498 UFO what do you have to say to that kind 1525 01:12:37,779 --> 01:12:41,498 of happened 1526 01:12:38,498 --> 01:12:43,269 these charges are absolutely untrue the 1527 01:12:41,498 --> 01:12:45,248 Air Force continued to maintain that it 1528 01:12:43,269 --> 01:12:47,498 was hiding nothing and we've always 1529 01:12:45,248 --> 01:12:50,529 honored accredited media when they want 1530 01:12:47,498 --> 01:12:52,569 to investigate a given specific sighting 1531 01:12:50,529 --> 01:12:56,559 there is nothing to have there's nothing 1532 01:12:52,569 --> 01:12:58,268 to hide at all now this is not an attack 1533 01:12:56,559 --> 01:13:00,248 on the air force spokesman or the 1534 01:12:58,269 --> 01:13:01,860 project spokesman they are simply 1535 01:13:00,248 --> 01:13:05,319 following orders 1536 01:13:01,859 --> 01:13:06,938 to explain away all UFO sightings as 1537 01:13:05,319 --> 01:13:11,340 quickly as possible when they become 1538 01:13:06,939 --> 01:13:14,769 public and deny that UFOs really exist 1539 01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:17,889 so it was pressure from Congress that 1540 01:13:14,769 --> 01:13:22,360 led to the study ended up not being an 1541 01:13:17,889 --> 01:13:24,279 open study will a few days long it ended 1542 01:13:22,359 --> 01:13:28,179 up by being a project given to 1543 01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:29,349 university that lasted 18 months in an 1544 01:13:28,179 --> 01:13:31,510 effort to maintain a neutral 1545 01:13:29,349 --> 01:13:35,889 investigation it was assigned to the 1546 01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:38,349 University of Colorado the University 1547 01:13:35,889 --> 01:13:40,418 gathered a team of 11 eminent scientists 1548 01:13:38,349 --> 01:13:42,369 they were to analyze and make public 1549 01:13:40,418 --> 01:13:45,269 their conclusions of the most compelling 1550 01:13:42,368 --> 01:13:45,268 UFO cases 1551 01:13:45,649 --> 01:13:51,388 as reported in the 1968 feature article 1552 01:13:49,349 --> 01:13:53,340 published by Look magazine the 1553 01:13:51,389 --> 01:13:57,239 university study was doomed from the 1554 01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:59,279 beginning the project leader dr. Edward 1555 01:13:57,238 --> 01:14:04,169 Condon appeared to be biased from the 1556 01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:05,819 start in February of 1967 he stated my 1557 01:14:04,170 --> 01:14:09,658 attitude right now is that there's 1558 01:14:05,819 --> 01:14:11,099 nothing to it he added but I'm not 1559 01:14:09,658 --> 01:14:15,299 supposed to reach a conclusion for 1560 01:14:11,099 --> 01:14:17,760 another year the look article goes on to 1561 01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:20,010 describe how two scientists were fired 1562 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:23,519 over a leaked memo written by one of the 1563 01:14:20,010 --> 01:14:25,289 project's managers this memo dictated 1564 01:14:23,519 --> 01:14:29,610 what the project's conclusions were to 1565 01:14:25,288 --> 01:14:32,189 be before the project even started the 1566 01:14:29,609 --> 01:14:34,408 leaked memo read the trick would be I 1567 01:14:32,189 --> 01:14:36,328 think to describe the project so that to 1568 01:14:34,408 --> 01:14:38,549 the public it would appear a totally 1569 01:14:36,328 --> 01:14:40,738 objective study but to the scientific 1570 01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:42,690 community would present the image of a 1571 01:14:40,738 --> 01:14:44,879 group of non-believers trying their best 1572 01:14:42,689 --> 01:14:49,488 to be objective but having an almost 1573 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,489 zero expectation of finding a saucer 1574 01:14:50,988 --> 01:14:56,368 when representative J Edward Roush read 1575 01:14:54,238 --> 01:14:59,069 the leaked memo and all the controversy 1576 01:14:56,368 --> 01:15:00,768 published by Look magazine he urged 1577 01:14:59,069 --> 01:15:03,630 Congress to take over the investigation 1578 01:15:00,769 --> 01:15:09,929 because he challenged the objectivity of 1579 01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:12,328 the study his plea was ignored left 1580 01:15:09,929 --> 01:15:14,429 unchecked the project chairman announced 1581 01:15:12,328 --> 01:15:19,948 the conclusions to the anxiously waiting 1582 01:15:14,429 --> 01:15:21,899 press dr. Condon stated that nothing has 1583 01:15:19,948 --> 01:15:26,428 come from the study of UFOs that is 1584 01:15:21,899 --> 01:15:30,929 added to scientific knowledge it is not 1585 01:15:26,429 --> 01:15:33,440 a fair an accurate a summary of the body 1586 01:15:30,929 --> 01:15:36,868 of the report which a summary should be 1587 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:38,899 three decades later dr. Peter stork an 1588 01:15:36,868 --> 01:15:41,368 astrophysicist from Stanford University 1589 01:15:38,899 --> 01:15:43,229 takes a close look at some of the case 1590 01:15:41,368 --> 01:15:46,139 studies never mentioned in Condon 1591 01:15:43,229 --> 01:15:48,419 summary the Condon report is really a 1592 01:15:46,139 --> 01:15:50,400 complex document if you're looking for 1593 01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:52,769 what they thought a wild-goose chases 1594 01:15:50,399 --> 01:15:54,479 you'll find those if you're looking to 1595 01:15:52,769 --> 01:15:57,480 see whether there are any intriguing 1596 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,889 cases that were really challenges to the 1597 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,229 star 1598 01:15:57,890 --> 01:16:02,090 you'll find them and if you want to see 1599 01:16:00,229 --> 01:16:04,519 whether the staff thought anything was 1600 01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:07,310 what they call quotes a real UFO you'll 1601 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:11,260 find that two there are two radio visual 1602 01:16:07,310 --> 01:16:13,789 cases analyzed by McDonald and Thayer in 1603 01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:15,920 conclusion although conventional or 1604 01:16:13,789 --> 01:16:18,739 natural explanations certainly cannot be 1605 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:21,079 ruled out the probability of such seems 1606 01:16:18,739 --> 01:16:23,239 low in this case and the probability 1607 01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:26,949 that at least one genuine UFO was 1608 01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:30,349 involved appears to be fairly high 1609 01:16:26,949 --> 01:16:32,630 another case summary was that this must 1610 01:16:30,350 --> 01:16:35,150 remain as one of the most puzzling radar 1611 01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:39,050 cases on record and no conclusion is 1612 01:16:35,149 --> 01:16:41,329 possible at this time and there are two 1613 01:16:39,050 --> 01:16:43,340 photographic cases analyzed by William 1614 01:16:41,329 --> 01:16:47,210 Hartmann who he thought that possible 1615 01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:49,300 UFOs this is one of the few UFO reports 1616 01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:51,859 in which all factors investigated 1617 01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:54,079 geometric psychological and physical 1618 01:16:51,859 --> 01:16:56,449 appear to be consistent with the 1619 01:16:54,079 --> 01:17:00,439 assertion that an extraordinary flying 1620 01:16:56,449 --> 01:17:02,720 object silvery metallic disc shaped tens 1621 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:05,239 of meters in diameter and evidently 1622 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:08,329 artificial flew within sight of two 1623 01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:11,239 witnesses but they do not feature at all 1624 01:17:08,329 --> 01:17:13,729 in conda's summary part the most people 1625 01:17:11,239 --> 01:17:16,880 read the part of the press referred to 1626 01:17:13,729 --> 01:17:20,329 were the few pages of conclude of 1627 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:22,400 recommendations and about one chapter a 1628 01:17:20,329 --> 01:17:25,729 short chapter of summary that were 1629 01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:27,439 written entirely by condom while the 1630 01:17:25,729 --> 01:17:29,659 panel of scientists conducted an 1631 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:32,179 objective investigation as requested by 1632 01:17:29,659 --> 01:17:34,250 Congress the project leader appeared to 1633 01:17:32,180 --> 01:17:37,300 have ignored the data and asserted that 1634 01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:42,619 there was nothing to the UFO phenomenon 1635 01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:45,440 on December 18th 1969 the new york times 1636 01:17:42,619 --> 01:17:47,479 quoted dr. Condon saying it was a bunch 1637 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,129 of damn nonsense and that he was sorry 1638 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,509 that he ever got involved with such 1639 01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:54,250 foolishness 1640 01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:56,890 Condon's thirty-year-old conclusions are 1641 01:17:54,250 --> 01:17:58,800 still being used today as a benchmark to 1642 01:17:56,890 --> 01:18:01,800 prevent further official scientific 1643 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,800 investigation 1644 01:18:02,869 --> 01:18:08,069 one of the problems with the so-called 1645 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,900 UFO research by debunkers is they ask 1646 01:18:08,069 --> 01:18:12,389 the wrong question their question is 1647 01:18:09,899 --> 01:18:14,969 what are UFOs really what they're saying 1648 01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:17,130 is are all UFOs alien spacecraft need 1649 01:18:14,969 --> 01:18:19,880 answers of courses No the proper 1650 01:18:17,130 --> 01:18:19,880 question is are any 1651 01:18:22,579 --> 01:18:35,149 [Music] 1652 01:18:37,630 --> 01:18:42,800 [Music] 1653 01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:56,079 [Music] 1654 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:04,229 [Music] 1655 01:19:01,130 --> 01:19:04,229 [Applause] 1656 01:19:12,319 --> 01:19:19,079 my it was you know it was shaped like a 1657 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,970 saucer I hate to use those trite terms 1658 01:19:19,079 --> 01:19:22,769 but that's what it was shaped like I 1659 01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:27,060 looked it up and all of a sudden there 1660 01:19:22,770 --> 01:19:30,930 was this you know gotta say it flying 1661 01:19:27,060 --> 01:19:33,420 saucer you know kind of looking like it 1662 01:19:30,930 --> 01:19:35,970 was not particularly far above us if you 1663 01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:38,520 look at that tree limb it seems to me 1664 01:19:35,970 --> 01:19:41,039 that when it floated across the road it 1665 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,630 was just about that far away you saw 1666 01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:47,329 that it was actually moving but the fact 1667 01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:50,239 was it was nothing we we had at the time 1668 01:19:47,329 --> 01:19:56,720 could could fit the description size 1669 01:19:50,239 --> 01:19:56,719 shape or performance of this craft 1670 01:20:07,409 --> 01:20:18,128 [Music] 1671 01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:23,350 [Music] 1672 01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:29,579 it appears that many people in power are 1673 01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:32,760 being kept out of the loop regarding the 1674 01:20:29,579 --> 01:20:34,470 UFO phenomenon at the same time covert 1675 01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:36,869 operations being conducted by the 1676 01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:40,640 military-industrial complex seemed to 1677 01:20:36,869 --> 01:20:40,640 have escaped government supervision 1678 01:20:41,810 --> 01:20:46,550 in the council's of government we must 1679 01:20:44,119 --> 01:20:48,800 guard against the acquisition of 1680 01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:51,289 unwarranted influence whether sought or 1681 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:54,800 unsought by the military-industrial 1682 01:20:51,289 --> 01:20:55,189 complex in his farewell address to the 1683 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,960 nation 1684 01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:58,639 President Eisenhower cautioned the 1685 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:01,010 public about the relationship between 1686 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:03,320 the US military and the industrial 1687 01:21:01,010 --> 01:21:06,079 sector which supplies the military with 1688 01:21:03,319 --> 01:21:07,880 weaponry and equipment Eisenhower felt 1689 01:21:06,079 --> 01:21:10,159 that if gone unchecked the 1690 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:12,949 military-industrial complex would become 1691 01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:14,840 too powerful the potential for the 1692 01:21:12,949 --> 01:21:19,099 disastrous rise of misplaced power 1693 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:20,539 exists and will persist we must never 1694 01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:22,460 let the weight of this combination 1695 01:21:20,539 --> 01:21:26,960 endanger our liberties or democratic 1696 01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:28,850 processes I think he was telling us the 1697 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,210 military-industrial complex will stick 1698 01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:35,510 you in the back if you are not totally 1699 01:21:32,210 --> 01:21:37,189 vigilant and I think he felt like he had 1700 01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:40,070 not been vigilant I think he felt like 1701 01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:41,599 he trusted too many people Brigadier 1702 01:21:40,069 --> 01:21:43,579 General Steven lovekins 1703 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:47,660 served under President Eisenhower in the 1704 01:21:43,579 --> 01:21:49,850 White House army signalling agency he 1705 01:21:47,659 --> 01:21:53,659 recalls Eisenhower's concern with the 1706 01:21:49,850 --> 01:21:56,510 military-industrial complex he realized 1707 01:21:53,659 --> 01:21:59,409 that he was losing control he realized 1708 01:21:56,510 --> 01:22:02,900 that this this the phenomenon of 1709 01:21:59,409 --> 01:22:05,720 whatever it was that that we were faced 1710 01:22:02,899 --> 01:22:08,359 with was not going to be in the best 1711 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:10,480 hands and that that those were them as 1712 01:22:08,359 --> 01:22:13,699 far as I can remember that was the 1713 01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:16,899 expression that was used it's not going 1714 01:22:13,699 --> 01:22:16,899 to be in the best hands 1715 01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:24,020 almost as great as the mystery 1716 01:22:21,649 --> 01:22:26,269 surrounding the origin of UFOs is the 1717 01:22:24,020 --> 01:22:32,030 wall of denial encountered even by the 1718 01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:35,060 most powerful citizens in the land in 1719 01:22:32,029 --> 01:22:37,039 October of 1969 President Jimmy Carter 1720 01:22:35,060 --> 01:22:39,950 who was then governor of Georgia had a 1721 01:22:37,039 --> 01:22:41,750 UFO sighting he filed a report with the 1722 01:22:39,949 --> 01:22:45,050 National investigations committee on 1723 01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:46,479 aerial phenomena in the report he 1724 01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:49,100 described a sharply outlined 1725 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:53,929 self-luminous object about the size of 1726 01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:57,980 the moon it maneuvered silently in front 1727 01:22:53,930 --> 01:23:00,110 of ten witnesses at a recent book tour 1728 01:22:57,979 --> 01:23:12,289 we asked President Jimmy Carter about 1729 01:23:00,109 --> 01:23:14,029 his sighting disappeared during Jimmy 1730 01:23:12,289 --> 01:23:15,769 Carter's presidential campaign he 1731 01:23:14,029 --> 01:23:19,340 promised to make public what the 1732 01:23:15,770 --> 01:23:20,990 government knew about UFOs in an effort 1733 01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:23,360 to fulfill this promise President 1734 01:23:20,989 --> 01:23:25,969 Carter's scientific adviser Frank press 1735 01:23:23,359 --> 01:23:27,859 wrote a letter requesting that NASA lead 1736 01:23:25,970 --> 01:23:34,280 the investigations into the UFO 1737 01:23:27,859 --> 01:23:36,259 phenomena when news of this pending 1738 01:23:34,279 --> 01:23:40,039 investigation reached Air Force Colonel 1739 01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:42,380 Charles Sen he wrote NASA in closing he 1740 01:23:40,039 --> 01:23:44,510 stated I sincerely hope you are 1741 01:23:42,380 --> 01:23:47,770 successful in preventing a reopening of 1742 01:23:44,510 --> 01:23:47,770 UFO investigations 1743 01:23:48,248 --> 01:23:53,929 whatever activity is going on to the 1744 01:23:51,019 --> 01:23:57,229 extent that it is a clandestine group it 1745 01:23:53,929 --> 01:24:02,838 croisé a government group a cause a 1746 01:23:57,229 --> 01:24:05,479 private group it is without any type as 1747 01:24:02,838 --> 01:24:08,269 far as I can tell of high-level 1748 01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:12,079 government oversight and that is a great 1749 01:24:08,269 --> 01:24:14,208 concern in December of 1977 NASA 1750 01:24:12,078 --> 01:24:16,818 officially declined President Carter's 1751 01:24:14,208 --> 01:24:19,128 request proposing that it take no steps 1752 01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:25,429 to establish a research activity in this 1753 01:24:19,128 --> 01:24:27,198 area did you ask me you a president yes 1754 01:24:25,429 --> 01:24:34,639 but there's a lot of different answers 1755 01:24:27,198 --> 01:24:36,138 and nobody knows who has proposed the 1756 01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:37,699 American Broadcasting Company and 1757 01:24:36,139 --> 01:24:40,489 affiliated stations present headline 1758 01:24:37,698 --> 01:24:42,498 edition with Taylor grant the 509 to 1759 01:24:40,488 --> 01:24:44,898 Tomic Bomb Group headquarters at Roswell 1760 01:24:42,498 --> 01:24:47,059 New Mexico reports that it has received 1761 01:24:44,899 --> 01:24:49,128 one of the discs which landed on a ranch 1762 01:24:47,059 --> 01:24:50,628 outside Roswell Colonel William 1763 01:24:49,128 --> 01:24:52,729 Blanchard of the Roswell Air Base 1764 01:24:50,628 --> 01:24:55,248 refuses to give details of what the 1765 01:24:52,729 --> 01:24:57,708 flying disc looked like New Mexico 1766 01:24:55,248 --> 01:24:59,719 congressman Steven Schiff was pressed by 1767 01:24:57,708 --> 01:25:02,328 his constituents into making inquiries 1768 01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:03,378 regarding the Roswell incident I think a 1769 01:25:02,328 --> 01:25:06,198 number of people getting their 1770 01:25:03,378 --> 01:25:08,568 information from news stories in in not 1771 01:25:06,198 --> 01:25:12,018 in all cases but in many cases are not 1772 01:25:08,569 --> 01:25:14,449 getting all of the information in a 1997 1773 01:25:12,019 --> 01:25:15,918 radio interview he recalls what happened 1774 01:25:14,448 --> 01:25:18,018 when he made inquiries with the 1775 01:25:15,918 --> 01:25:20,479 Department of Defense the first response 1776 01:25:18,019 --> 01:25:23,510 I got was a bit of a terse response from 1777 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:26,418 a colonel in the Air Force the letter 1778 01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:27,918 just said we've referred your request 1779 01:25:26,418 --> 01:25:31,038 for information to the National Archives 1780 01:25:27,918 --> 01:25:34,088 with really no further explanation and I 1781 01:25:31,038 --> 01:25:36,378 found that unusual at the very least 1782 01:25:34,088 --> 01:25:38,208 after a second attempt with the 1783 01:25:36,378 --> 01:25:39,858 Department of Defense congressman Schiff 1784 01:25:38,208 --> 01:25:41,250 was again referred to the National 1785 01:25:39,859 --> 01:25:43,780 Archives 1786 01:25:41,250 --> 01:25:46,180 and I got a response from them that said 1787 01:25:43,779 --> 01:25:48,699 we have no information about the Roswell 1788 01:25:46,180 --> 01:25:50,320 incident and further they added an note 1789 01:25:48,699 --> 01:25:52,689 that said we've received a great number 1790 01:25:50,319 --> 01:25:54,579 of requests for information I thought to 1791 01:25:52,689 --> 01:25:55,689 myself well I'm not surprised I mean if 1792 01:25:54,579 --> 01:25:58,630 the Defense Department is sending 1793 01:25:55,689 --> 01:26:00,699 everybody the National Archives that 1794 01:25:58,630 --> 01:26:02,500 they'd be getting a lot of requests and 1795 01:26:00,699 --> 01:26:05,229 frankly I felt this was a runaround in 1796 01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:08,560 other words in my view the Defense 1797 01:26:05,229 --> 01:26:09,489 Department sent me to another agency on 1798 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,320 my request 1799 01:26:09,489 --> 01:26:15,219 knowing that agency would not have any 1800 01:26:11,319 --> 01:26:18,159 information evidently former director of 1801 01:26:15,220 --> 01:26:20,199 the FBI j.edgar hoover was also denied 1802 01:26:18,159 --> 01:26:24,159 access as he stated in his own 1803 01:26:20,199 --> 01:26:26,559 handwriting in July of 1947 we must 1804 01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:29,439 insist upon full access to disks 1805 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:31,030 recovered Hoover continued the army 1806 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,460 grabbed it and wouldn't let the bureau 1807 01:26:31,029 --> 01:26:38,358 have it for cursory examination 1808 01:26:33,460 --> 01:26:38,359 [Music] 1809 01:26:38,789 --> 01:26:44,199 we will stand against the forces a more 1810 01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:46,780 recent inquiry was apparently made by 1811 01:26:44,199 --> 01:26:49,449 President Bill Clinton let us stand up 1812 01:26:46,779 --> 01:26:51,189 and talk against it he asked associate 1813 01:26:49,449 --> 01:26:55,059 attorney general webster hubbell to 1814 01:26:51,189 --> 01:26:56,229 investigate web Hubbell and Bill Clinton 1815 01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:59,340 were old friends 1816 01:26:56,229 --> 01:27:01,899 in his book friends in high places 1817 01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:03,670 Hubbell recalls a special favor that 1818 01:27:01,899 --> 01:27:10,359 President Clinton made after he first 1819 01:27:03,670 --> 01:27:12,220 came into office webby said if I put you 1820 01:27:10,359 --> 01:27:14,529 over at justice I want you to find out 1821 01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:18,820 the answers to two questions for me one 1822 01:27:14,529 --> 01:27:21,189 who killed JFK and two are their UFOs he 1823 01:27:18,819 --> 01:27:23,170 was dead serious Hubbell had looked into 1824 01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:27,399 both but wasn't satisfied with the 1825 01:27:23,170 --> 01:27:29,770 answers he was getting when we asked mr. 1826 01:27:27,399 --> 01:27:31,559 Hubbell about this incident he replied I 1827 01:27:29,770 --> 01:27:35,550 was wondering if you by any chance 1828 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:40,810 recall anything further at this point 1829 01:27:35,550 --> 01:27:46,300 put everything in the best you can take 1830 01:27:40,810 --> 01:27:48,850 mr. Clarke we contacted President Bill 1831 01:27:46,300 --> 01:27:51,369 Clinton and received this letter it is a 1832 01:27:48,850 --> 01:27:52,930 response from NASA stating that no 1833 01:27:51,369 --> 01:27:55,500 government agency is currently 1834 01:27:52,930 --> 01:27:57,760 responsible for investigating UFOs 1835 01:27:55,500 --> 01:28:00,550 because there is no factual evidence 1836 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:05,530 that alien life exists on other planets 1837 01:28:00,550 --> 01:28:06,940 or that UFOs are related to aliens see 1838 01:28:05,529 --> 01:28:08,859 this is what you'll be up against who 1839 01:28:06,939 --> 01:28:10,569 you gonna see the moment you go see 1840 01:28:08,859 --> 01:28:10,989 somebody so we can't tell you it's top 1841 01:28:10,569 --> 01:28:13,000 secret 1842 01:28:10,989 --> 01:28:15,010 what are you gonna do you have to walk 1843 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:18,489 out so you see how the government 1844 01:28:15,010 --> 01:28:20,250 operates how they can you say you should 1845 01:28:18,489 --> 01:28:22,779 go there and answer who you gonna go to 1846 01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:24,489 even with what the experience I had been 1847 01:28:22,779 --> 01:28:26,519 on top of the government all the years I 1848 01:28:24,489 --> 01:28:29,628 couldn't tell you it'll go see 1849 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,629 [Music] 1850 01:28:34,179 --> 01:28:41,389 Paris 1999 the most important UFO study 1851 01:28:38,569 --> 01:28:43,369 in recent decades is made public this 1852 01:28:41,389 --> 01:28:45,859 was presented to the President and Prime 1853 01:28:43,368 --> 01:28:48,228 Minister of France urging diplomatic 1854 01:28:45,859 --> 01:28:51,259 action with the US through the European 1855 01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:53,449 Union the report was compiled by the 1856 01:28:51,259 --> 01:28:57,048 committee group which investigated over 1857 01:28:53,448 --> 01:28:59,628 500 UFO cases from around the world this 1858 01:28:57,048 --> 01:29:01,578 report which came from a high-level 1859 01:28:59,628 --> 01:29:03,828 group of French military officers 1860 01:29:01,578 --> 01:29:08,688 primarily as well as some scientists is 1861 01:29:03,828 --> 01:29:10,849 the most strongly worded Pro UFO 1862 01:29:08,689 --> 01:29:13,369 document ever written in any language 1863 01:29:10,849 --> 01:29:17,479 that has been made public by a group of 1864 01:29:13,368 --> 01:29:19,308 this stature the cometa group consists 1865 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:22,128 of generals and admirals of the french 1866 01:29:19,309 --> 01:29:25,219 military as well as top-level scientists 1867 01:29:22,128 --> 01:29:28,519 such as andre LeBeau director of CNES 1868 01:29:25,219 --> 01:29:29,628 the french equivalent of nasa general 1869 01:29:28,519 --> 01:29:31,548 bernard Norland 1870 01:29:29,628 --> 01:29:35,118 former commander French tactical air 1871 01:29:31,548 --> 01:29:37,038 force and jean-claude vebe the former 1872 01:29:35,118 --> 01:29:40,098 director of the observatory at lyon 1873 01:29:37,038 --> 01:29:43,878 france title of the report is ufos and 1874 01:29:40,099 --> 01:29:46,899 defense what must we prepare for now 1875 01:29:43,878 --> 01:29:49,458 it's 92 pages to text after that title 1876 01:29:46,899 --> 01:29:51,289 the comater group received data 1877 01:29:49,458 --> 01:29:54,019 collected by numerous scientific 1878 01:29:51,288 --> 01:29:56,238 agencies much of its content was based 1879 01:29:54,019 --> 01:29:58,759 on reports from military and civilian 1880 01:29:56,238 --> 01:30:01,338 pilots this official document was an 1881 01:29:58,759 --> 01:30:03,590 internal military investigation that was 1882 01:30:01,338 --> 01:30:04,859 never intended for the general public 1883 01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:07,619 [Music] 1884 01:30:04,859 --> 01:30:12,389 the report also contains a selection of 1885 01:30:07,619 --> 01:30:14,579 photographs these photos were subjected 1886 01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:17,510 to scientific analysis in an effort to 1887 01:30:14,579 --> 01:30:17,510 determine authenticity 1888 01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:26,798 [Music] 1889 01:30:29,988 --> 01:30:35,269 Kumada also examined physical evidence 1890 01:30:32,689 --> 01:30:38,779 such as plant and soil samples taken 1891 01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:42,140 from alleged landing sites one such case 1892 01:30:38,779 --> 01:30:45,649 occurred on January 8th 1981 in southern 1893 01:30:42,140 --> 01:30:49,119 France there was only a single witness 1894 01:30:45,649 --> 01:30:53,750 to that event he was working in his 1895 01:30:49,119 --> 01:30:56,659 small phone late one afternoon he heard 1896 01:30:53,750 --> 01:30:58,699 a whistling sound he looked up and just 1897 01:30:56,659 --> 01:31:01,729 above the trees was this strange craft 1898 01:30:58,699 --> 01:31:08,238 it descended and landed 30 feet away in 1899 01:31:01,729 --> 01:31:08,988 his garden the former city goes opposite 1900 01:31:08,238 --> 01:31:12,439 to us yet 1901 01:31:08,988 --> 01:31:16,000 Luna thought he told his wife about an 1902 01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:16,000 evening and she thought he was joking 1903 01:31:16,930 --> 01:31:21,380 they went back in the morning to look up 1904 01:31:19,460 --> 01:31:23,649 the area and they found traces on the 1905 01:31:21,380 --> 01:31:23,650 ground 1906 01:31:24,238 --> 01:31:28,408 who vomited on comments every vanilla 1907 01:31:26,158 --> 01:31:34,920 led by my light on Cooper buku buku 1908 01:31:28,408 --> 01:31:39,089 d'fwan AC scientist came out in a week 1909 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:42,210 or two and they took further samples of 1910 01:31:39,090 --> 01:31:45,329 soils they also took samples of plants 1911 01:31:42,210 --> 01:31:46,529 and analysis that soil and plants with 1912 01:31:45,329 --> 01:31:49,469 very interesting they're carried out 1913 01:31:46,529 --> 01:31:52,099 quite professionally and there was 1914 01:31:49,469 --> 01:31:55,198 evidence of compression of the soil and 1915 01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:57,480 there was a clear evidence of damage to 1916 01:31:55,198 --> 01:32:00,149 the plants the kind of injury that could 1917 01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:02,879 happen because of heating due to 1918 01:32:00,149 --> 01:32:04,679 microwaves for instance so there was 1919 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:06,359 good physical evidence in that case and 1920 01:32:04,679 --> 01:32:08,640 moreover there were two kinds of 1921 01:32:06,359 --> 01:32:11,880 physical evidence injury damaged the 1922 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,560 soil and damaged the plants despite the 1923 01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:16,289 physical evidence the small town of 1924 01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:19,800 TransAm province labeled the farmer as a 1925 01:32:16,289 --> 01:32:23,340 flying saucer fanatic Papa d dkc2 has a 1926 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:27,380 coop of all antica City he got his show 1927 01:32:23,340 --> 01:32:30,270 sir wait he said Posey dirty but a 1928 01:32:27,380 --> 01:32:32,880 number of cases analyzed by the comater 1929 01:32:30,270 --> 01:32:36,080 group came from military pilots involved 1930 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,079 in UFO incidents 1931 01:32:36,689 --> 01:32:42,599 one of the most dramatic cases occurred 1932 01:32:38,939 --> 01:32:44,879 in September of 1976 when a phantom f-4 1933 01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:46,950 jet flown by a pilot from the Iranian 1934 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:50,180 Royal Air Force attempted to fire a 1935 01:32:46,949 --> 01:32:52,920 missile at a UFO 1936 01:32:50,180 --> 01:32:59,220 in the same instant the pilots Fire 1937 01:32:52,920 --> 01:33:01,529 Control Council and radio went dead at 1938 01:32:59,220 --> 01:33:05,990 this point a smaller craft emerged from 1939 01:33:01,529 --> 01:33:05,989 the main UFO and circled around the jet 1940 01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:12,000 the pilot then took evasive action and 1941 01:33:09,659 --> 01:33:17,309 power to his controls returned he 1942 01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:22,159 escaped unharmed in this report they say 1943 01:33:17,310 --> 01:33:22,160 in effect UFOs are real 1944 01:33:24,909 --> 01:33:30,069 ergo the extra-terrestrial hypothesis 1945 01:33:28,189 --> 01:33:35,919 may in some cases be the best or only 1946 01:33:30,069 --> 01:33:35,920 real answer and cannot be ignored 1947 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:48,980 they are technological they do things 1948 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:52,190 that we probably can't do and all that 1949 01:33:48,979 --> 01:33:55,968 being said this obviously constitutes a 1950 01:33:52,189 --> 01:33:58,639 major concern for global defense and 1951 01:33:55,969 --> 01:34:00,529 security when the report was completed 1952 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:02,750 it was given to a number of leading 1953 01:34:00,529 --> 01:34:06,920 French journalists one of these was 1954 01:34:02,750 --> 01:34:09,319 Bernard to know the editor of VSD VSD is 1955 01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:13,760 a French weekly magazine like time-life 1956 01:34:09,319 --> 01:34:15,979 we are a general press publication it's 1957 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:18,680 not specialised in UFO sightings at all 1958 01:34:15,979 --> 01:34:20,779 the committee group allowed VSD to 1959 01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,840 publish the report provided it was not 1960 01:34:20,779 --> 01:34:26,659 manipulated in any way if the public was 1961 01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:28,430 aware of the committee report then the 1962 01:34:26,659 --> 01:34:31,698 committee report was not going to 1963 01:34:28,430 --> 01:34:34,420 disappear and any kind of official or 1964 01:34:31,698 --> 01:34:37,250 semi official a dark hole so to speak 1965 01:34:34,420 --> 01:34:41,440 then the committee report became a 1966 01:34:37,250 --> 01:34:43,850 public fact and it remains a public fact 1967 01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,799 to date the report has not been 1968 01:34:43,850 --> 01:34:49,850 officially published outside of France 1969 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:52,219 and so far only one article published in 1970 01:34:49,850 --> 01:34:54,530 The Boston Globe has appeared in the US 1971 01:34:52,219 --> 01:34:56,630 press I applied a very high standard to 1972 01:34:54,529 --> 01:34:57,409 the story because of its controversial 1973 01:34:56,630 --> 01:34:59,630 nature 1974 01:34:57,409 --> 01:35:00,710 I was basically retelling what the 1975 01:34:59,630 --> 01:35:02,359 generals and the other people I 1976 01:35:00,710 --> 01:35:03,948 concluded in their report I looked at 1977 01:35:02,359 --> 01:35:06,109 government documents that dealt with the 1978 01:35:03,948 --> 01:35:08,089 issue of national security and UFOs 1979 01:35:06,109 --> 01:35:10,729 which was what the generals were dealing 1980 01:35:08,090 --> 01:35:13,130 with in France despite her thoroughness 1981 01:35:10,729 --> 01:35:15,738 Leslie Kane encountered much resistance 1982 01:35:13,130 --> 01:35:17,569 in getting the story published I went to 1983 01:35:15,738 --> 01:35:19,309 many papers many of whom had published 1984 01:35:17,569 --> 01:35:21,019 within the past people laughed hung up 1985 01:35:19,310 --> 01:35:23,180 the phone the subject matter is 1986 01:35:21,020 --> 01:35:24,590 ridiculed in the media and so even 1987 01:35:23,180 --> 01:35:27,739 though I was dealing with facts in this 1988 01:35:24,590 --> 01:35:28,789 article and high-level journalism they 1989 01:35:27,738 --> 01:35:30,619 weren't interested because of the 1990 01:35:28,789 --> 01:35:32,210 subject matter this was very really 1991 01:35:30,619 --> 01:35:34,219 really frustrating because I thought 1992 01:35:32,210 --> 01:35:36,590 this was an extremely important story 1993 01:35:34,219 --> 01:35:38,389 and I know that it was newsworthy most 1994 01:35:36,590 --> 01:35:40,819 Americans have never heard of it the 1995 01:35:38,389 --> 01:35:42,770 group hasn't published an English 1996 01:35:40,819 --> 01:35:47,059 translation that anybody can get ahold 1997 01:35:42,770 --> 01:35:50,360 of and they seem to be on the trail of 1998 01:35:47,060 --> 01:35:52,039 saying hey you Americans you're holding 1999 01:35:50,359 --> 01:35:54,649 back technology that you've learned from 2000 01:35:52,039 --> 01:35:56,238 flying saucers from your allies so 2001 01:35:54,649 --> 01:35:58,219 that's a message to the Pentagon not to 2002 01:35:56,238 --> 01:36:00,439 the public they know the Pentagon knows 2003 01:35:58,219 --> 01:36:03,158 through people so it's an important 2004 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:06,439 report for what it says no other report 2005 01:36:03,158 --> 01:36:09,019 with names with people with excellent 2006 01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:12,138 cases this is not anonymous reporting 2007 01:36:09,020 --> 01:36:14,210 now has come close to taking a strongest 2008 01:36:12,139 --> 01:36:19,760 stand that some UFOs are 2009 01:36:14,210 --> 01:36:23,020 extraterrestrial spacecraft in 2007 the 2010 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:26,000 French National Space Agency CNES 2011 01:36:23,020 --> 01:36:36,409 released a half-century of previously 2012 01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:38,719 classified UFO reports a group calling 2013 01:36:36,408 --> 01:36:40,519 itself the disclosure project is in 2014 01:36:38,719 --> 01:36:42,618 Washington this week calling on Congress 2015 01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:45,050 to hold public hearings on the u.s. 2016 01:36:42,618 --> 01:36:47,118 though really life on other planets some 2017 01:36:45,050 --> 01:36:49,489 former military and government personnel 2018 01:36:47,118 --> 01:36:52,279 say they have preferred people who claim 2019 01:36:49,488 --> 01:36:54,738 they have seen UFOs is calling on 2020 01:36:52,279 --> 01:36:56,569 Congress to open hearings plan to do 2021 01:36:54,738 --> 01:36:59,618 with their information they hope 2022 01:36:56,569 --> 01:37:02,929 Congress and President Bush take notice 2023 01:36:59,618 --> 01:37:05,359 before a crowd of believers and skeptics 2024 01:37:02,929 --> 01:37:07,520 with cameras rolling members of a group 2025 01:37:05,359 --> 01:37:10,448 calling itself the disclosure project 2026 01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:13,159 stood up one by one to tell personal 2027 01:37:10,448 --> 01:37:18,678 experiences involving what they say are 2028 01:37:13,158 --> 01:37:20,929 UFOs I have with me the voice tapes of 2029 01:37:18,679 --> 01:37:24,800 the controllers that were involved I 2030 01:37:20,929 --> 01:37:26,569 have a copy of the original of the video 2031 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:31,570 that we took which is rather interesting 2032 01:37:26,569 --> 01:37:33,799 and it's called the UFO incident Japan 2033 01:37:31,569 --> 01:37:37,609 1648 of Lee the number was that happened 2034 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:41,420 on November the 18th 1986 when it was 2035 01:37:37,609 --> 01:37:42,889 all done the CIA yeah one of the CIA men 2036 01:37:41,420 --> 01:37:44,868 told the people they would else want a 2037 01:37:42,889 --> 01:37:47,050 secrecy that this meeting never happened 2038 01:37:44,868 --> 01:37:50,029 and this event never had 2039 01:37:47,050 --> 01:37:54,050 we have the disclosure project was 2040 01:37:50,029 --> 01:37:56,509 formed by dr. Steven Greer in 1993 since 2041 01:37:54,050 --> 01:37:58,789 then he has gathered together over 200 2042 01:37:56,510 --> 01:38:01,220 military and civilian witnesses who 2043 01:37:58,789 --> 01:38:03,970 experienced UFO events during their 2044 01:38:01,220 --> 01:38:07,190 official duties we had ground visual 2045 01:38:03,970 --> 01:38:10,280 ground radar airborne visual and 2046 01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:12,799 airborne radar confirmation of some of 2047 01:38:10,279 --> 01:38:15,050 these sightings witnesses ranged from 2048 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:17,329 FAA controllers to military 2049 01:38:15,050 --> 01:38:19,489 communication specialists and I can 2050 01:38:17,329 --> 01:38:21,619 clearly recall seeing a message that 2051 01:38:19,489 --> 01:38:24,649 went through my crypto Center which said 2052 01:38:21,619 --> 01:38:26,960 that a UFO UFO had crashed on the island 2053 01:38:24,649 --> 01:38:28,909 of Spitsbergen Norway and the team of 2054 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:31,159 scientists were coming to investigate it 2055 01:38:28,909 --> 01:38:34,010 many witnesses provided official 2056 01:38:31,159 --> 01:38:37,849 documentation of their event out of the 2057 01:38:34,010 --> 01:38:40,880 National Archives I have the 18-page 2058 01:38:37,850 --> 01:38:44,720 official Navy and Air Force report so 2059 01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:46,970 the truth is here I will testify under 2060 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:49,840 oath before Congress that everything 2061 01:38:46,970 --> 01:38:49,840 that I have said is true 2062 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:59,279 I think it's time to open the books in 2063 01:38:56,429 --> 01:39:02,099 October of 2002 former White House chief 2064 01:38:59,279 --> 01:39:05,009 of staff John Podesta urged the release 2065 01:39:02,099 --> 01:39:07,050 of secret government UFO records he 2066 01:39:05,010 --> 01:39:09,539 cited the importance to the public of 2067 01:39:07,050 --> 01:39:12,090 declassifying government documents it's 2068 01:39:09,539 --> 01:39:14,969 time to find out what what the truth 2069 01:39:12,090 --> 01:39:17,460 really is that's out there we ought to 2070 01:39:14,969 --> 01:39:19,679 do it really because it's right we ought 2071 01:39:17,460 --> 01:39:21,989 to do it because the American people 2072 01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:24,569 quite frankly can handle the truth and 2073 01:39:21,988 --> 01:39:26,968 we ought to do it because it's the law 2074 01:39:24,569 --> 01:39:29,340 it's not surprising that government 2075 01:39:26,969 --> 01:39:31,399 officials of this stature are requesting 2076 01:39:29,340 --> 01:39:34,020 the release of official UFO information 2077 01:39:31,399 --> 01:39:38,189 because sightings over major cities 2078 01:39:34,020 --> 01:39:40,829 persist in December 2006 a number of 2079 01:39:38,189 --> 01:39:43,078 United Airlines employees witnessed a 2080 01:39:40,828 --> 01:39:45,448 disc-shaped craft hovering over 2081 01:39:43,078 --> 01:39:47,609 Chicago's O'Hare Airport for two minutes 2082 01:39:45,448 --> 01:39:50,269 the incident was reported in the 2083 01:39:47,609 --> 01:39:50,269 national media 2084 01:39:53,069 --> 01:40:11,679 [Music] 2085 01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:28,948 [Music] 2086 01:40:37,130 --> 01:40:43,019 [Music] 2087 01:40:39,349 --> 01:40:45,000 often in reliable UFO cases the official 2088 01:40:43,019 --> 01:40:48,449 explanation is more unbelievable than 2089 01:40:45,000 --> 01:41:06,689 the event itself I had the evidence that 2090 01:40:48,448 --> 01:41:13,948 the crash didn't happen here I saw one 2091 01:41:06,689 --> 01:41:16,288 but I don't know what disappeared people 2092 01:41:13,948 --> 01:41:18,149 say Mike now you saw a b-2 bomber my 2093 01:41:16,288 --> 01:41:22,158 response was we can land all 40 of our 2094 01:41:18,149 --> 01:41:22,158 b-2 bombers on the wing of that craft I 2095 01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:36,448 would go ahead and feel the craft which 2096 01:41:27,420 --> 01:41:39,300 was world there is a serious possibility 2097 01:41:36,448 --> 01:41:43,348 that we are being visited and have been 2098 01:41:39,300 --> 01:41:45,869 visited for many years by people from 2099 01:41:43,349 --> 01:41:49,409 outer space from other civilizations 2100 01:41:45,868 --> 01:41:51,839 that it behooves us in case some of 2101 01:41:49,408 --> 01:41:54,149 these people in the future or now should 2102 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:56,788 turn hostile to find out who they are 2103 01:41:54,149 --> 01:42:01,049 where they come from and what they want 2104 01:41:56,788 --> 01:42:03,630 well if the concert we believed yes 2105 01:42:01,050 --> 01:42:07,340 there had been et visitation there had 2106 01:42:03,630 --> 01:42:11,760 been crashed craft there have been 2107 01:42:07,340 --> 01:42:15,170 material and bodies recovered and there 2108 01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:19,369 is some group of people somewhere 2109 01:42:15,170 --> 01:42:20,899 that may or may not be associated with 2110 01:42:19,369 --> 01:42:23,539 government at this point but certainly 2111 01:42:20,899 --> 01:42:25,969 were at one time that have this 2112 01:42:23,539 --> 01:42:27,469 knowledge the thing you have to remember 2113 01:42:25,969 --> 01:42:28,909 is that absolute power corrupts 2114 01:42:27,469 --> 01:42:30,319 absolutely 2115 01:42:28,909 --> 01:42:32,238 when you've got the knowledge and the 2116 01:42:30,319 --> 01:42:34,519 budget nobody looking over your shoulder 2117 01:42:32,238 --> 01:42:36,439 it's a great temptation to think that 2118 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,820 you know best like with the public they 2119 01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:39,979 don't know enough they have a sensible 2120 01:42:37,819 --> 01:42:44,479 opinion that's unfortunate 2121 01:42:39,979 --> 01:42:48,769 yeah can you know Mitchell is upon you 2122 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:50,238 my new boy a provisional panini onion 2123 01:42:48,770 --> 01:42:52,429 National Terrace matter it has the 2124 01:42:50,238 --> 01:42:54,500 stoical ringing who want to chew up at 2125 01:42:52,429 --> 01:42:56,840 every need Hawaii and never show the 2126 01:42:54,500 --> 01:42:58,399 Prima need for total how many people 2127 01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,719 bring a suit that they in a plane eat 2128 01:42:58,399 --> 01:43:02,809 anything but the fact that he did it 2129 01:42:59,719 --> 01:43:04,189 skied apart I just wish that government 2130 01:43:02,810 --> 01:43:07,489 entities that are involved in trying to 2131 01:43:04,189 --> 01:43:09,589 always stop the investigation or or or 2132 01:43:07,488 --> 01:43:11,569 put out some flaky story about some 2133 01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:13,760 observation that was legitimate I don't 2134 01:43:11,569 --> 01:43:15,769 know why people just don't stop and and 2135 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,119 and in government and just sort of you 2136 01:43:15,770 --> 01:43:19,250 know open the books for everybody we all 2137 01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:20,630 have be included it's something that we 2138 01:43:19,250 --> 01:43:23,029 should embrace and not be fearful about 2139 01:43:20,630 --> 01:43:25,819 that's that's how I feel about it since 2140 01:43:23,029 --> 01:43:28,519 the subject is clearly of great interest 2141 01:43:25,819 --> 01:43:31,670 to the public I think that the senator 2142 01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:34,580 community owes it to the public to 2143 01:43:31,670 --> 01:43:38,029 really pay attention to subject and make 2144 01:43:34,579 --> 01:43:40,729 a thorough extensive and careful 2145 01:43:38,029 --> 01:43:43,219 investigation and then share with the 2146 01:43:40,729 --> 01:43:44,839 public whatever they find a story this 2147 01:43:43,219 --> 01:43:46,189 big there's no way it could be kept 2148 01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,969 secret from the public what do you say 2149 01:43:46,189 --> 01:43:49,579 to someone like that 2150 01:43:46,969 --> 01:43:52,810 it says that well somebody's kept it 2151 01:43:49,579 --> 01:43:52,809 pretty sickening for quite a while 2152 01:43:55,649 --> 01:44:01,239 if structured craft of unknown origin 2153 01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:03,039 are penetrating our skies the people 2154 01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:04,510 best equipped to know are the military 2155 01:44:03,039 --> 01:44:07,449 and we will provide you with all the 2156 01:44:04,510 --> 01:44:09,159 information that you need numerous 2157 01:44:07,449 --> 01:44:11,619 military witnesses are prepared to 2158 01:44:09,159 --> 01:44:13,680 testify in great detail but need 2159 01:44:11,619 --> 01:44:16,000 immunity from their security oaths 2160 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:18,100 Congress is currently being lobbied to 2161 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:24,399 provide a platform for such testimony 2162 01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:26,190 but so far to no avail the discovery 2163 01:44:24,399 --> 01:44:28,269 that we are being visited by 2164 01:44:26,189 --> 01:44:30,789 extraterrestrials would be one of the 2165 01:44:28,270 --> 01:44:32,890 greatest in human history such a 2166 01:44:30,789 --> 01:44:36,130 discovery would profoundly alter the 2167 01:44:32,890 --> 01:44:38,310 perception of ourselves and our place in 2168 01:44:36,130 --> 01:44:38,310 the universe 2169 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:47,300 [Music] 2170 01:44:50,590 --> 01:44:56,850 [Music] 2171 01:45:07,090 --> 01:45:19,168 [Music] 2172 01:45:22,029 --> 01:45:25,318 [Music] 2173 01:45:31,529 --> 01:45:47,719 [Music] 2174 01:45:54,619 --> 01:46:07,458 [Music] 2175 01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,838 [Music] 2176 01:46:16,060 --> 01:46:22,129 [Music] 2177 01:46:28,619 --> 01:46:33,769 [Music] 2178 01:46:30,630 --> 01:46:33,770 [Applause] 2179 01:46:35,890 --> 01:46:44,149 [Music] 2180 01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:44,149 [Applause] 2181 01:46:45,529 --> 01:46:49,269 [Music] 2182 01:46:54,750 --> 01:46:57,859 [Music] 2183 01:47:02,779 --> 01:47:10,800 [Music] 2184 01:47:13,649 --> 01:47:15,710 you 2185 01:47:22,849 --> 01:47:24,909 you 165620

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