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[Robbi] See, when you drive
in the desert,
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the roads seem to go on
forever and ever
and ever and ever.
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Until it seems like,
getting to a trance.
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And every now and again,
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a rocky outcrop,
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which is kind of a old volcano
will sidle up to you.
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And whisper strange things
into your ears,
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ancient tongues,
and then pass by.
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And you would not notice,
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when the Shaman
climbed into your car.
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And he'll be gone by the time
he hit the next sun down.
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And then, night time,
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we have
the voluptuous night sky,
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and myriads
and myriads of stars.
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These are the tools
that are pressed
into the desert musician.
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[grunge music playing]
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[Dave] I think you're either
a desert person
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or not a desert person.
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'Cause I don't think
everyone can just go
survive there.
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Not much can survive there
if you think about it, like,
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the desert will
sort of beat you down
or drive you out.
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No one ever expected
to get out of the desert,
least of all, me.
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With music as
the vehicle to get out.
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It just was never
gonna happen.
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[Robbi] I never realized
there was gonna be
any of musical future
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or any kind of scene future.
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I mean, it just made
really a handful of us.
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Looking back on it
was really fun,
and it had to happen.
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We all had a connection
'cause there was literally
nothing to do.
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We didn't know that
there was a world out there,
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until night time.
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[Sophia] Hanging out
in the desert
and partying was normal.
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And motivated
everyone to create.
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We want freedom, man.
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There's no rules,
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there's no one to tell you
what the hell you
can and can't do out there.
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The desert is such
a wide open blank canvas
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You didn't know
what was gonna happen.
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It was one of the most special
and magical, musical moments
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that I believed
ever happened.
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And it is an age that
is one of the only hopes
for the modern music business.
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And it's the Desert Age.
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Palm Springs has this
endless lure about it,
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connected with Hollywood
and Las Vegas,
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as kind of an escape.
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[Sophia] Palm Springs,
is a beautiful desert Oasis.
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You drive in through the desert
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and then, all of a sudden,
you come into this
beautiful town.
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Have a weekend in Palm Springs,
sit by the pool,
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sip a Margarita
or whatever.
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And you think of it
as a tourist town.
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[Mario] If you're an adult,
that was a party town.
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Night clubs, beautiful hotels,
swimming pools, golf courses,
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Tennis courts,
all that kind of bullshit.
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[Jesse] 'Cause that's what
started Palm Springs.
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It was where
the Hollywood elite
escape from the cameras
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to do their dirty shit.
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It's where some
of the dirtiest shit
in the world has gone down.
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It's where they went
to feel like regular people.
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[Mario] My dad took over
the old Chi Chi club,
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which was the famous
night club in Palm Springs.
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My dad, got the keys
and we walked in.
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And my brother, my uncle
or somebody was
turning on all the lights,
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and I was standing
on the stage with my dad.
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All the stage lights
came on.
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And the whole
back of the stage
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was a collage of cut outs
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fromPlayboy magazine
and not porno mags
but nudie mags
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and I was like,
"What the fuck?"
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[Sophia] So, that's what
this conflict was like,
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"Oh, my gosh, we're growing up
in this tourist town.
What else is there to do?"
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[Dave] There wasn't really
a lot set up
for the kids to do.
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You would occasionally
have reason to go there,
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if your parents would've
dragged you there.
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But these kids
were super bored.
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And really desperate for fun,
or for a scene,
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or for music
or for anything.
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[anchor] Swimming pools
are every where.
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Probably one out of
every three homes
has it's own private pool.
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There are almost
a thousand of them here.
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More pools for the number
of residents than
anywhere else in the world.
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[Sean] Rich people would leave
Palm Springs for the summer.
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We break into their houses,
nice houses
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drain their pool
with a storm pool pump.
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Kick in the door,
fill the fridge
full of beer, man.
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Drag the refrigerator out,
and set it up
in the deep end
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so you have another
two feet of vert, you know.
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Whoo! I'm on the fridge.
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[Myke] Skateboarding, to us,
was like a super renegade way
of expressing yourself.
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I loved it.
I loved skateboarding.
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[punk music playing]
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[Sean] Skateboarding.
Skateboarding like
the punk rock band.
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And Myke Bates,
was a punk rocker.
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He's the first punk rocker
out here that
was in high school.
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The rest of us
were in junior high,
completely committed to it.
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Here's some Palm Springs pools
that we rode back in the day.
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I was a young skater,
as many of us were.
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And there was only
one store in that town.
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And they had a little section
of skateboarding stuff.
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There was no
skateboard store per se.
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[Sean] Myke Bates
was an entrepreneur
in Palm Springs.
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that opened the first
skateboard shop.
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Bates Skates, they sold
punk pants and skate boards
and shit.
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We just go there everyday
after junior High school.
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It was close by.
We'd just hang out,
drink beer, smoke weed,
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fucking listen to punk tapes.
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Kids came in
listened to the music,
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'cause it was like
the epicenter
of where everybody
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hung out, it was almost
like a social club.
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That was cool.
We'd sit around
listen to punk rock
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He always had the newest this
and newest that,
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you know,
that changed everything.
[laughing]
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[punk music playing]
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[Robert] It was
pretty primitive
in the beginning.
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There weren't lot of musicians.
Nobody was into punk.
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You had to buy magazines
and look at the ads
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to find out how you
get bootlegs
and this or that
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or whatever record
the Damned, Sex Pistols,
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whoever, 'cause you
couldn't even see that
stuff in record stores
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in Palms Springs
at the time.
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[Paul] You read about it,
but we can't find the records.
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So that made a big difference
on, you know,
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do you get out to LA
very often, go to shows
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while we don't own a car.
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Having that skateboard store
helped a lot.
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Kids would come in
and hear it.
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Started musically vibing.
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[Robert] So, it was
the four of us.
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I don't know that we played
all that much anyway.
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There wasn't
any place to play.
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And then when you played
a party it's like,
"What is this noise?"
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"Where's Zeppelin?" You know,
"Where's Van Halen?"
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Van Halen was huge
at the time
and we just never fit.
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[punk music playing]
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Target 13, those guys
were a little older than us.
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So, of course
we looked up to them.
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But it was like
a hang out family thing.
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Of course they were
very influential.
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I mean, I think that's
why more bands started.
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This band from the desert
that I saw...
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at my junior high, probably
in 1979 was Target 13.
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They were the first band
that got some air play.
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[Rodney over the radio]
Yeah, we're just gonna
get it going here.
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We've got something
brand new here.
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Since these guys
will be coming
to the Whiskey soon.
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Here's a new single
by Stiff Little Fingers.
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[Myke] Rodney was a disk jockey
on KROQ, in California.
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And he would showcase
a lot of underground bands.
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So, I wrote a song...
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With the other guys,
you know,
we wrote this tune,
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"Rodney on the Roq"
based on his show.
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He said, "Well, you know,
my dime will go to the studio
and record it."
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[laughing]
Okay.
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["Rodney on the Roq" playing]
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[Myke] And so I wrote this song
and we set the tune,
and he really liked it.
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They pressed it
and I couldn't believe it.
[laughs]
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I ran up the stairs,
cranked the boom box up,
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jumped around like an idiot,
"I'm on the radio." [chuckles]
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It was exciting.
It was a high point of,
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"Look at this,
we're on the map now."
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Palm Springs music
getting on the vinyl,
that was crucial.
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It helped legitimize
the whole deal
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because the scene
started picking up
a little bit of steam.
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Target 13, they could
show that, even though
you're from the desert
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that you could, kind of,
make it up in that LA scene.
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And make a name for yourself.
And I think that
maybe that was hope.
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[Sophia] By then it just,
kind of, exploded
because it's starting to happen
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in terms of, "There's a scene
and we wanna be a part of it."
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And the tribe
started to grow.
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[punk music playing]
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I had a band.
A little punk band
called, "Mutual Hatred."
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That was the one,
my first punk band.
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♪ Cover where
I watch him die ♪
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♪ Now this world's
Gonna make him fry ♪
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♪ Groupie sucks
Groupie sucks ♪
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♪ Turtle meat I love to eat
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♪ I thrashed 'em beef
For turtle meat ♪
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♪ Groupie sucks
Groupie sucks ♪
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♪ Kill the seal
Take his pill ♪
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♪ Chop it up until you kill
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♪ Groupie sucks
Groupie sucks ♪
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♪ Groupie sucks
Groupie sucks ♪
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[punk music playing]
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[Sophia] Sean was
kind of the leader.
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I couldn't see him
doing anything else
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But being in front
of an audience.
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[Mario] He had
a lot of influence over people,
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'because he was kind
of a trend setter
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We also had a way
about him that,
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if he didn't like you
or he didn't dig what you're
doing or something.
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He wasn't afraid
to fuckin' bust your balls
and make an ass out of you.
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[Brian] I was looking
at the guys like Sean.
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They were just more
hardcore than the rest of us
at an earlier age.
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'Cause they were
kinda guttersnipe.
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They had like street sense.
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[Sean] I just had no education.
I said "Fuck it."
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I just wanna feel good
all the time,
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and pleasure bang dude 24/7.
If it feels good I'm in.
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[laughing]
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[frog croaking]
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[cameraman]
Please allow me inside.
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[snickering]
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We got a man in the boat.
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[Myke] I grew up in a family
that partied always.
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[grunge music playing]
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Before I was even
old enough to go to school,
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I was raised pretty much
at the car wash.
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With my grandma
and my uncle's.
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[Myke] He comes from
an interesting background.
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I mean he had that
car wash with all those
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denizens that worked there,
you know.
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From all walks of life
in that desert.
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[Sean] Heroin addicts,
quaaludes, cocaine, you know,
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Chicks working there
turning tricks.
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This is the point, man.
My mom had these
people watching me.
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This one dude, Gordy,
was baby sittin' us.
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He just nodded out on heroin
on my toilet.
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But back then I don't know
heroin was, but I know now.
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And Gordy's like... He's like...
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[in a high-pitched voice]
"Come on, Gordy.
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Get up man, let's play
some baseball."
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And Gordy gets...
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[grunge music playing]
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My mom was always down,
always, I had parties
at my mom's house.
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Always, we'd have bands
playing in there all the time
in the garage, you know.
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Ditch school, drink beer,
smoke weed, get high,
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take acid, get laid,
everything.
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His mom wasn't
around that much.
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She was just always gone.
So, it was always
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a party in Sean's garage.
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Always gave us
a place to play.
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'Cause couldn't play
at the shop, but he had
this great house
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we can have parties
and shows, and they
were really really fun
237
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and very memorable.
238
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[punk music playing]
239
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Sean's house was kind of
a club into itself.
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Kids just sitting
all around the hall,
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outside perimeter, and then
242
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there was like
four or five crazy dudes,
243
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just like pogoing
and hopping up and down,
244
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and hanging from the rafters
and I was so nervous,
245
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I wouldn't face the crowd.
So, I was facing my amplifier.
246
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And I was just terrified.
247
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[Sophia] Everybody was
hanging around because they
wanted to get high.
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The first substance that
I ever put in my body
249
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that altered my frame
of consciousness was LSD,
when I was 16.
250
00:14:02,945 --> 00:14:05,983
I had LSD before I had beer,
weed or anything.
251
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I tried playing bass
on acid one time
252
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and it felt like the strings
were melting into my fingers
253
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Trying to tune...
254
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Bad trip.
255
00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:16,717
[Mario] By then, all the guys
I was hanging out with
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had taken LSD and even
they're frying all the time,
257
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Cocaine. Drugs were
a part of what was happening.
258
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And I was really
kind of scared of all that.
259
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[Herb] All of us would do
anything and everything.
260
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Weed, quaaludes,
mushrooms too.
261
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There was a point in time
when we were all
heavily into acid.
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Myself included.
263
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The whole plan was just
to all move to LA
and pursue our band.
264
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Get out of the desert. I hated
the desert. There's nothing to
do here, blah blah blah...
265
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It was kind of
a real turning point
for me in my life really
266
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because we had moved
to Los Angeles to play music
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from the desert,
from this place we were
very comfortable with,
268
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to the strange land
where all the shit's happening
269
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in the clubs
and the punk rock scene
is serious here, man.
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So, we were really excited,
but I...
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[Herb] We were finally
all moved up there
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we're working on the band
and we're rehearsing.
273
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But I was taking
a lot of acid,
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and got to the point where,
275
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it was like one time
was kind of
the tipping point for me.
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[siren wailing]
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I had to come back.
It was too hard
278
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to maintain and try to get
my head screwed back on.
279
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I quit the band.
280
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So, I did what I had to do.
281
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I mean, it was nothing
against them at all.
282
00:15:48,223 --> 00:15:50,984
I probably should have
talked to all of them
a little more before I left.
283
00:15:51,019 --> 00:15:54,470
I moved up to LA
just because of him
and the band,
284
00:15:54,505 --> 00:15:58,405
and so, it's kinda hard,
'cause he was
my best friend growing up.
285
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And we went without him.
286
00:16:00,614 --> 00:16:03,928
You know, some people
got into the chemicals
287
00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:06,586
and the powders
a little heavily.
288
00:16:06,620 --> 00:16:08,036
And I remember
at one point of time, Herb,
289
00:16:08,070 --> 00:16:12,488
was homeless and living
in his car in the desert.
290
00:16:12,523 --> 00:16:14,352
It's kinda painful to see.
291
00:16:14,387 --> 00:16:18,080
But I don't think
it was the psychedelics
that really fucked with him
292
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as much as say,
the speed and then, of course,
293
00:16:21,946 --> 00:16:24,776
there's a whole dark side
that comes with that.
294
00:16:24,811 --> 00:16:27,055
[railway bell tolling]
295
00:16:27,089 --> 00:16:28,884
["Midnight Creeper" by
Eagles of Death Metal playing]
296
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[Scott] I would say this
is the dark side
of the valley.
297
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Meth capital. Who knows
what's buried out here.
298
00:16:57,671 --> 00:17:01,572
It's basically
just a scrap yard
out in the middle of nowhere.
299
00:17:01,606 --> 00:17:04,471
And this is where there's
a bunch of tweakers
300
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and dogs run around here.
301
00:17:06,232 --> 00:17:08,579
But yeah, this is a...
302
00:17:08,613 --> 00:17:12,721
This is where the real
desert action happens.
303
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[Sean] The desert went through
a huge speed phase.
304
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Like all of us kids,
most of us.
305
00:17:19,107 --> 00:17:23,076
It was before,
this worldwide
meth phenomenon,
306
00:17:23,111 --> 00:17:26,493
where like, super labs
and all that bullshit
you see on TV.
307
00:17:26,528 --> 00:17:28,564
Speed wasn't very popular.
308
00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:30,808
But bikers always
cooked it out here.
309
00:17:30,842 --> 00:17:33,983
So, whatever little
speed scene there was,
310
00:17:34,018 --> 00:17:37,573
it was being manufactured
in places like you went today.
311
00:17:37,608 --> 00:17:40,024
In Garnet, if you
met a real speed cook,
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00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:42,440
it was like meeting a fuckin'
real wizard, dude.
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You'll be like,
"Whoa! Man!"
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["Midnight Creeper" by
Eagles of Death Metal
continues playing]
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[Jesse] The old fashioned
desert meth cook normally
was a bearded wizard,
316
00:18:19,408 --> 00:18:23,792
who understood how to make
chemical reactions abstractly.
317
00:18:23,826 --> 00:18:27,899
And he lived and was
able to survive and exist
318
00:18:27,934 --> 00:18:30,902
on chemical fumes
in a contained
and compressed area
319
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when it would kill
everyone else.
320
00:18:32,801 --> 00:18:35,631
Imagine seeing a dude
that takes a big bag of meth,
321
00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:38,738
and scoops it up
on a bowie knife
and eats it.
322
00:18:38,772 --> 00:18:40,705
That's how a meth cook
tests his product.
323
00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:42,086
People don't know
how to make meth.
324
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:44,813
Back then it was strictly
bikers making crystal meth.
325
00:18:44,847 --> 00:18:47,747
You know they're cooking out
here in the desert
'cause you couldn't smell it.
326
00:19:07,525 --> 00:19:10,287
[Jesse] Methamphetamine,
is the predominant drug
of the desert.
327
00:19:10,321 --> 00:19:13,117
The desert, whether anyone
wants to accept it or not.
328
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,154
If you're involved
in the cultural scene,
329
00:19:15,188 --> 00:19:17,052
you're under
the finger of meth.
330
00:19:17,086 --> 00:19:20,642
On a breezy day, you can smell
the meth labs for sure.
331
00:19:20,676 --> 00:19:24,508
Marijuana was not
a part of the scene.
Everything else was.
332
00:19:24,542 --> 00:19:28,132
To me it seemed like speed
really got in our scene
pretty bad, you know.
333
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:30,962
Our scene was small
and maybe not with everybody.
334
00:19:30,997 --> 00:19:33,793
but the scenes met together
through methamphetamine
335
00:19:51,397 --> 00:19:52,294
Whoa!
336
00:20:00,268 --> 00:20:04,237
Lot of the drugs
and partying and music
came from boredom.
337
00:20:04,272 --> 00:20:06,895
We were kids
with nothing to do,
nowhere to go.
338
00:20:06,929 --> 00:20:11,071
We were looking for excitement
and fun, camaraderie.
And we got it.
339
00:20:11,106 --> 00:20:13,350
You know, and that comes
with a lot of baggage too.
340
00:20:13,384 --> 00:20:14,972
But that's why
it all happened.
341
00:20:15,006 --> 00:20:18,734
We were all 100% hardcore
for sure.
342
00:20:18,769 --> 00:20:20,736
[Mark] You know, it was really
Dead Issue.
343
00:20:20,771 --> 00:20:23,705
And hearing Herb
and Scott, Mario
344
00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:28,434
and Alfredo going
just "Holy shit.
That's what I want to do."
345
00:20:28,468 --> 00:20:31,264
We've been struggling
so hard to get everybody
under the same roof
346
00:20:31,299 --> 00:20:33,646
so we could just jam
and and record all the time
347
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,096
And a couple of years
before that, that was
the dream was
348
00:20:36,131 --> 00:20:39,272
to have a place,
where we could just
do that all the time.
349
00:20:39,307 --> 00:20:40,860
[Mark] The band had moved
to Los Angeles,
350
00:20:40,894 --> 00:20:44,104
And now is about making
a stab and making music
our career.
351
00:20:44,139 --> 00:20:47,522
Herb flipped out on
fuckin' acid. It was really
fuckin' hard for those guys
352
00:20:47,556 --> 00:20:50,110
to deal with that and kinda
what the next steps were.
353
00:20:50,145 --> 00:20:52,699
It was like a real wrench
in their game plan.
354
00:20:52,734 --> 00:20:54,183
I was actually living
in Palm Springs
355
00:20:54,218 --> 00:20:57,152
and I'd take the Greyhound bus
to Los Angeles.
356
00:20:57,186 --> 00:21:00,259
And practice. And instead
of Herb singing
and playing guitar
357
00:21:00,293 --> 00:21:03,607
I was playing guitar guitar,
in "Across the River."
358
00:21:03,641 --> 00:21:05,540
["Across the River" playing]
359
00:21:32,532 --> 00:21:36,950
We were in the middle
of really becoming kinda
musicians I guess.
360
00:21:36,985 --> 00:21:39,228
Discovering how to play.
361
00:21:39,263 --> 00:21:42,162
[Mark] I was the kid who
locked himself in the room
362
00:21:42,197 --> 00:21:44,199
and played guitar for hours.
363
00:21:44,233 --> 00:21:48,652
And so I had
a technical ability.
364
00:21:48,686 --> 00:21:51,102
And that was
a little bit new.
365
00:21:51,137 --> 00:21:52,690
'Cause everybody grew up
366
00:21:52,725 --> 00:21:55,279
learning punk songs
in their rooms if you will.
367
00:21:55,314 --> 00:21:58,351
And so, I added
that technical element.
368
00:21:58,386 --> 00:22:03,977
[Mario] Scott, was the only guy
that really knew
any kind of music theory.
369
00:22:04,012 --> 00:22:07,153
None of us could
read or write music out.
370
00:22:07,187 --> 00:22:09,086
When we started getting
better on our instruments,
371
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,502
there was little more freedom
and we could explore more.
372
00:22:11,537 --> 00:22:15,886
The metal, the rock stuff was
colliding with the punk stuff.
373
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,508
And we kind of ran with it.
374
00:22:17,543 --> 00:22:18,992
[punk music playing]
375
00:22:27,794 --> 00:22:29,175
[Mario] We never jammed.
376
00:22:29,209 --> 00:22:32,592
And Dead Issue was a band
that came with the song idea
377
00:22:32,627 --> 00:22:36,631
and we worked on the song
and I could... ya know
punk heads don't jam.
378
00:22:36,665 --> 00:22:41,049
We started having sections
in the "Across the River" songs
379
00:22:41,083 --> 00:22:43,810
where there would
be a jam section
for how many bars
380
00:22:43,845 --> 00:22:45,571
until you felt like
coming back.
381
00:22:45,605 --> 00:22:47,849
We wouldn't stop playing,
we just go on forever.
382
00:22:47,883 --> 00:22:52,440
It's kinda like almost trancy,
where people just fall into it.
383
00:22:52,474 --> 00:22:53,993
[punk music playing]
384
00:23:02,657 --> 00:23:06,454
[humming] And you just fuckin'
an hour later, you look up,
385
00:23:06,488 --> 00:23:08,628
and go, "Wow!
That was fuckin' fun."
386
00:23:08,663 --> 00:23:11,631
We would hang out
and party with those guys.
387
00:23:11,666 --> 00:23:14,496
Mostly doing
psychedelic drugs.
388
00:23:14,531 --> 00:23:17,326
Doing a lot of acid,
mushrooms and...
389
00:23:17,361 --> 00:23:20,399
[Mark] The room would
be laid out
with bubble wrap,
390
00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:22,815
like wall ceilings and floors
391
00:23:22,849 --> 00:23:25,058
underneath the black light
392
00:23:25,093 --> 00:23:27,440
And everyone will be tripping,
393
00:23:27,475 --> 00:23:29,925
rolling and banging
off the bubble wrap
394
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,548
It was going pop,
pop, pop, pop,
395
00:23:31,582 --> 00:23:36,138
I got to a point where
I would play on mushrooms,
any chance I got.
396
00:23:36,173 --> 00:23:39,659
And I felt really loose
than to go anywhere.
397
00:23:39,694 --> 00:23:42,041
We'd all take 'shrooms,
we'd sit in a room
398
00:23:42,075 --> 00:23:44,388
and we'd just fucking jam
and we'd hit record.
399
00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:48,081
And it added to the music
and the vibe and the sound.
400
00:23:48,116 --> 00:23:52,465
We were all brothers
growing up and figuring out
life playing music.
401
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,812
And it was a cool way
to do it.
402
00:24:00,611 --> 00:24:04,097
My friend, Dave Travis,
had a small generator.
403
00:24:04,132 --> 00:24:05,927
And we go up
my home and drive.
404
00:24:05,961 --> 00:24:09,206
And we'd just pull over
and we'd set up a drum set
and a guitar amp.
405
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,349
Just make noise. Drinking beers
and going all night,
till the sun came up.
406
00:24:14,383 --> 00:24:17,076
It was like, "What the...
This is incredible" you know.
407
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:19,388
When we figured out
we could do shit
408
00:24:19,423 --> 00:24:22,599
on our own,
that was like...
That was it.
409
00:24:29,537 --> 00:24:32,609
The generator party
was simple power source,
410
00:24:32,643 --> 00:24:36,578
bring your band equipment,
bring some beers, some light,
411
00:24:36,613 --> 00:24:41,134
you just go and do it,
wherever whenever,
for the fun of it.
412
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:54,044
This spot, it went to a wash
so it crumbled off,
413
00:24:54,078 --> 00:24:56,495
and there was maybe
a three or four foot drop,
414
00:24:56,529 --> 00:24:58,704
and it was a perfect stage.
415
00:24:58,738 --> 00:25:02,328
So the people were
in the wash, and the bands
set up on the pavement.
416
00:25:02,362 --> 00:25:05,469
We ended up calling it
Dust Fest, 'cause every time
we go up there it'd be like
417
00:25:05,504 --> 00:25:10,163
a dust storm and crazy wind
and dust everywhere,
you know, we didn't care.
418
00:25:10,198 --> 00:25:13,132
That was
the first generator party
that I knew of in the desert.
419
00:25:13,166 --> 00:25:17,861
A few months after that
there was another one that
was called the Dust Fest two.
420
00:25:17,895 --> 00:25:20,484
[Sophia] Typically we'd have to
write a map on the flyers,
421
00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:23,729
because the desert
was so difficult
to maneuver at night.
422
00:25:23,763 --> 00:25:26,214
You see that rock,
the third rock on the left,
423
00:25:26,248 --> 00:25:29,458
and go around it
and you'll see the party.
424
00:25:29,493 --> 00:25:31,184
I mean it's completely dark.
425
00:25:31,219 --> 00:25:32,703
[overdriven distortion]
426
00:25:42,126 --> 00:25:47,476
I was doing like
a performance art piece
about maniac depression.
427
00:25:47,511 --> 00:25:50,825
With the cycles,
getting crazier and crazier,
428
00:25:50,859 --> 00:25:54,656
I mean I was frying
my brains out at night.
429
00:26:01,007 --> 00:26:03,285
[cheering]
430
00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:08,774
[Mario] I don't need everything
to be perfect.
431
00:26:08,808 --> 00:26:12,916
I don't need
all the special stuff
to be built up around it
432
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:14,124
to make it happen.
433
00:26:14,158 --> 00:26:17,506
There was a independent spirit
there, undeniable.
434
00:26:17,541 --> 00:26:19,267
[Mark] There was never
any guitar techs.
435
00:26:19,301 --> 00:26:20,613
You know, you loaded
your own gear.
436
00:26:20,648 --> 00:26:24,375
And it was all very much DIY,
just in the moment.
437
00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:28,552
The sound was weird like when
the wind come up it carries
the sound a little bit.
438
00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:32,383
It's swirled, it's flangy.
And it was so fun to play.
439
00:26:32,418 --> 00:26:34,351
I made a lot of friends
that night.
440
00:26:34,385 --> 00:26:35,939
[grunge music playing]
441
00:26:55,475 --> 00:27:01,378
[Seth] You know it was kinda
like baseball, skateboarding,
punk rock,
442
00:27:01,412 --> 00:27:05,727
pussy, drugs,
and then it was just drugs.
443
00:27:06,866 --> 00:27:08,488
[rock music playing]
444
00:27:19,603 --> 00:27:21,156
[Scott] The name
of the band was
445
00:27:21,191 --> 00:27:24,125
Zezo Zece Zadfrack
and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion.
446
00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:26,783
That came from
Charles Manson's kid.
447
00:27:26,817 --> 00:27:31,960
And then the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion was
Manson's followers.
448
00:27:31,995 --> 00:27:33,513
[grunge music playing]
449
00:27:40,382 --> 00:27:43,523
[Seth] Zezo Zece Zadfrack
and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion,
450
00:27:43,558 --> 00:27:45,456
that was the band
we were all in.
451
00:27:45,491 --> 00:27:50,082
We're basically practicing
in the meth houses
452
00:27:50,116 --> 00:27:53,016
and stuff like that,
so I just...
453
00:27:53,050 --> 00:27:56,088
[Seth] You know that was
whole thing and we were like...
454
00:27:56,122 --> 00:27:58,953
And we are hanging around
in this outlaw motorcycle
club house.
455
00:27:58,987 --> 00:28:02,025
And anybody who has speed
and wouldn't kick us out.
456
00:28:02,059 --> 00:28:06,615
Just dig in real deep, man.
"I'm here for the long haul."
457
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,355
[Nick] The day I got out
of Juvenile Hall,
458
00:28:22,390 --> 00:28:24,461
I get out and my mom
459
00:28:24,495 --> 00:28:27,222
drives me out
to Adrian's night club
in Palm Springs,
460
00:28:27,257 --> 00:28:29,708
buy me a ticket out
where these bands
are playing.
461
00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:31,744
[Joshua] There was club
called Adrian's.
462
00:28:31,779 --> 00:28:34,229
And the guy...
No matter who you were
463
00:28:34,264 --> 00:28:38,268
Adrian was like,
"Why don't you play
like the White Snake?"
464
00:28:38,302 --> 00:28:39,994
And you set up on the steps.
465
00:28:40,028 --> 00:28:44,723
So you're playing
on the steps of this
truly awful night club.
466
00:28:44,757 --> 00:28:47,691
When I was 13, I once saw
Sean Wheeler there.
467
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:50,142
He had like hair
down to here.
468
00:28:50,176 --> 00:28:54,940
Mirrored shades
and it was like this
Sci-fi drugged out biker.
469
00:28:54,974 --> 00:28:59,220
Space rock, like I mean,
it was just the most
radical shit, dude.
470
00:28:59,254 --> 00:29:02,154
[Joshua] It was just him in
a pair of leather underwear
471
00:29:02,188 --> 00:29:03,603
and this blue wig.
472
00:29:03,638 --> 00:29:06,779
And I thought, "Man, they make
leather G-String underwear."
473
00:29:06,814 --> 00:29:10,541
That's crazy, I mean,
first few songs was
like I didn't know
474
00:29:10,576 --> 00:29:12,026
if that was like available.
475
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,097
If I remember correctly,
they didn't have a drummer.
476
00:29:14,131 --> 00:29:18,757
So they had a taped
drum machine
and bass tracks.
477
00:29:18,791 --> 00:29:20,068
[drums playing]
478
00:29:26,143 --> 00:29:29,560
It was like, "Whoa! This guys
are weird" at that,
it was great.
479
00:29:29,595 --> 00:29:33,426
But different and weird,
you know like,
what in the name...
480
00:29:33,461 --> 00:29:35,739
So weird you know,
I was like this is not normal.
481
00:29:35,774 --> 00:29:37,396
This is "only in the desert"
kinda thing.
482
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:41,883
It was the first time I had
seen "technological music"
in the desert.
483
00:29:41,918 --> 00:29:44,023
'Cause it was like,
not a rock band
484
00:29:44,058 --> 00:29:46,370
conventionally with drums,
bass guitars,
485
00:29:46,405 --> 00:29:47,820
It was keyboard
and drum machine.
486
00:29:47,855 --> 00:29:52,445
So he was way ahead of that.
That wasn't even permissible.
487
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,689
But because it was Wheeler,
I was like, uh.
488
00:29:54,723 --> 00:29:57,312
First band in the desert
to use drum machine.
489
00:29:57,347 --> 00:29:59,038
[laughing] This is Jesus,
490
00:29:59,073 --> 00:30:02,593
the drummer for Zezo Zece
Zadfrack and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion.
491
00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:04,561
Which year was that?
492
00:30:04,595 --> 00:30:07,840
I brought this brand new
from the Guitar Center in 1985.
right when it first came out.
493
00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:11,430
Our band used drum machine
because of, one, Alfredo
494
00:30:11,464 --> 00:30:13,501
was busy with Mario
and those guys.
495
00:30:13,535 --> 00:30:15,158
And there weren't
many drummers.
496
00:30:15,192 --> 00:30:17,505
It was almost like
you couldn't have a band
without Alfredo.
497
00:30:17,539 --> 00:30:19,162
It's what how it felt.
498
00:30:19,196 --> 00:30:20,922
[singing]
499
00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:31,657
You never knew
how a show would end up.
500
00:30:31,691 --> 00:30:32,865
Everyone was tweaking.
501
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,625
We got lucky.
We had drum machine
502
00:30:34,660 --> 00:30:38,215
that at least kept the beat,
but everybody else was a mess.
503
00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:43,082
We wouldn't even have a rapper.
We'd be doing our punk thing
or the rock thing.
504
00:30:43,117 --> 00:30:47,259
Then dudes would
get up there and start
rapping and I was like...
505
00:30:47,293 --> 00:30:48,950
It was like a pre-Body Count
kind of thing.
506
00:30:48,985 --> 00:30:52,333
Speed is such a bummer, dude,
like the more you think about
it.
507
00:30:52,367 --> 00:30:54,162
-And to think we started that.
-Yeah.
508
00:30:54,991 --> 00:30:56,682
[singing]
509
00:31:19,325 --> 00:31:21,120
We played a couple of gigs
in LA,
510
00:31:21,155 --> 00:31:26,608
but we moved home,
and we stopped
being really active
511
00:31:26,643 --> 00:31:29,715
in the music scene
up here in Los Angeles.
512
00:31:29,749 --> 00:31:31,890
And we were never
active in that scene.
513
00:31:31,924 --> 00:31:34,685
Me and Scott and Alfredo
were all living together
514
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,999
and we were just getting
somewhere and falling apart
at the same time.
515
00:31:38,034 --> 00:31:40,726
The house was getting
very crowded.
516
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,248
My future wife, Renee,
had moved in,
we had a pit bull.
517
00:31:45,282 --> 00:31:47,698
And our dog
was tearing up the carpet
518
00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:50,770
when we'd lock her in the room
and we were gone.
519
00:31:50,805 --> 00:31:52,186
We wanted to get our own place.
520
00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:56,190
I think we were just
kind of grew apart
as kids just
521
00:31:56,224 --> 00:31:57,985
ready to go off
on our own.
522
00:32:08,788 --> 00:32:10,549
We were really close
in those days.
523
00:32:10,583 --> 00:32:13,759
Had some really good time,
a really creative time,
524
00:32:13,793 --> 00:32:16,762
really free time
in your mind I guess.
525
00:32:16,796 --> 00:32:20,179
I mean in my opinion they
could've made a huge impact
on the music scene.
526
00:32:20,214 --> 00:32:23,734
Over all the world
I think 'cause they were
that fucking had
527
00:32:23,769 --> 00:32:25,805
a totally
unrealized potential.
528
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,222
[Joshua] I saw
"Across the River"
on the ice skating rink.
529
00:32:28,256 --> 00:32:30,983
Whoa! And they were
fucking incredible.
530
00:32:31,018 --> 00:32:34,090
When grunge happened
years later I was like,
531
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:37,990
Oh, yeah,
like "Across the River."
532
00:32:38,025 --> 00:32:40,959
'Cause it was so heavy
but on accident.
533
00:32:40,993 --> 00:32:45,204
[Mark] This was a time
well before Nirvana broke.
534
00:32:45,239 --> 00:32:48,759
There was no glimmer
of commercial success.
535
00:32:48,794 --> 00:32:51,624
And punk or post punk,
alternative music
536
00:32:51,659 --> 00:32:53,799
the way that we
think about it today.
537
00:32:53,833 --> 00:32:55,904
There was never
a benchmark like that.
538
00:32:55,939 --> 00:32:58,804
So, success to us
was creating music.
539
00:32:58,838 --> 00:33:00,702
[punk music playing]
540
00:33:32,976 --> 00:33:34,391
[Mario] Me and Alfredo
kept playing.
541
00:33:34,426 --> 00:33:37,739
But all of a sudden
I didn't have a band really.
542
00:33:37,774 --> 00:33:41,950
And around that time
my friend Gary,
moved into the house.
543
00:33:41,985 --> 00:33:44,643
And then it molded
into Yawning Man.
544
00:34:04,421 --> 00:34:06,906
I don't even know
how to tune a guitar honestly.
545
00:34:06,941 --> 00:34:08,218
I just play it by ear.
546
00:34:08,253 --> 00:34:11,049
I don't even know
what a "E" is from the "A".
547
00:34:11,083 --> 00:34:13,120
What's the point
it's all the same notes.
548
00:34:13,154 --> 00:34:15,881
I actually move around
to the different areas
of the guitar.
549
00:34:15,915 --> 00:34:19,229
It's amazing
because the only playing
he had done
550
00:34:19,264 --> 00:34:21,921
was pluckin' around
on an acoustic guitar.
551
00:34:21,956 --> 00:34:24,027
[Robbi] This guy doesn't know
what he's playing.
552
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:27,134
I've jammed with Gary a bit,
and I'm like...
553
00:34:27,168 --> 00:34:29,860
I don't wanna play man,
I just wanna listen.
554
00:34:29,895 --> 00:34:32,725
[Myke] That's what was
so inspirational
it was like, we're still
555
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,142
playing in those slash
and those chords
556
00:34:35,176 --> 00:34:38,731
and that guys
playing melodies
on top of that stuff.
557
00:34:38,766 --> 00:34:43,011
It's like "Wow! Where are you
coming up with this stuff?"
you know.
558
00:34:43,046 --> 00:34:46,118
[Mario] A lot of punk rock
didn't seem honest to me.
559
00:34:46,153 --> 00:34:49,915
It seemed the things
they wrote about saying
about the sounds
560
00:34:49,949 --> 00:34:53,505
that they used,
the influences they had
were so obvious.
561
00:34:53,539 --> 00:34:57,129
It is supposed to be
non conformist
and it is actually
562
00:34:57,164 --> 00:35:00,201
is one of the most
definitive conformist things.
563
00:35:00,236 --> 00:35:03,031
And at that point I started
to disconnect from it.
564
00:35:03,066 --> 00:35:06,725
A lot of it was the interfacing
between Gary and Mario.
565
00:35:06,759 --> 00:35:09,797
Just the way those two
would work together.
566
00:35:09,831 --> 00:35:12,351
[Sophia] I always liked
the sound of the music.
567
00:35:12,386 --> 00:35:14,008
And it's almost like,
568
00:35:14,802 --> 00:35:16,562
they had their own language.
569
00:35:16,597 --> 00:35:18,978
[drum beating]
570
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:20,256
That was it right there.
571
00:35:21,567 --> 00:35:22,775
That was it.
572
00:35:23,742 --> 00:35:24,881
We almost had the whole song.
573
00:35:24,915 --> 00:35:27,677
Okay, I just want to
do four all right?
574
00:35:27,711 --> 00:35:30,024
Just four, just try something,
just do four.
575
00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:32,716
Just to one section.
So you're gonna...
576
00:35:32,751 --> 00:35:33,993
Ah... Just start playing.
577
00:35:34,028 --> 00:35:36,341
Okay one,
all right , sorry pal.
578
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,895
[metronome]
579
00:35:44,003 --> 00:35:47,766
I think Mario, was a big time
igniter of the idea of,
580
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,630
"You need to sound
like yourself."
581
00:35:49,664 --> 00:35:51,183
You know,
"and nobody else."
582
00:35:51,218 --> 00:35:54,048
I played at his house
when I was 12 or 13,
583
00:35:54,082 --> 00:35:56,015
in his laundry room, garage.
584
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:58,363
You know, at that time
you're still finding your way,
585
00:35:58,397 --> 00:36:00,882
and you just started
to play in the first place.
586
00:36:00,917 --> 00:36:03,885
So it'd be easy for some
18 or 19 year old person
587
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,543
to look at a 13 year old
band and be like,
588
00:36:06,578 --> 00:36:08,718
"This fucking sucks."
589
00:36:08,752 --> 00:36:10,444
And leave it at that.
590
00:36:10,478 --> 00:36:13,585
But to see something in it
and be constructive,
591
00:36:13,619 --> 00:36:16,657
and encouraging, takes
somebody special to do that.
592
00:36:16,691 --> 00:36:20,902
And Boomer, was that
someone special who was
encouraging, you know.
593
00:36:20,937 --> 00:36:22,973
So I started thinking like,
594
00:36:23,008 --> 00:36:26,218
what instantaneously within
two seconds before you played
will make it different.
595
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:28,462
So it was like, "I'm gonna
start tuning down"
596
00:36:28,496 --> 00:36:30,429
it's the one thing I never
heard anyone else do.
597
00:36:30,464 --> 00:36:32,120
[grunge music playing]
598
00:36:37,678 --> 00:36:39,542
As the tone got bigger,
599
00:36:39,576 --> 00:36:43,235
the amps need to be also
scaled to take that tonality.
600
00:36:43,270 --> 00:36:45,996
So I started playing through
bass cabinets and bass amps.
601
00:36:46,031 --> 00:36:47,412
And all of a sudden...
602
00:36:58,906 --> 00:37:01,080
I was just happy
for those guys
when I heard it.
603
00:37:01,115 --> 00:37:05,395
It was like really creative,
didn't sound like anything
we've heard before.
604
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:08,156
[Sophia] We drove around to
this corner of this mountain
605
00:37:08,191 --> 00:37:11,159
and the fire is burning,
and this band is playing,
606
00:37:11,194 --> 00:37:14,646
and hair's flying everywhere
like, "Who is that?"
607
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,337
[grunge music playing]
608
00:37:24,621 --> 00:37:27,348
We get out in the middle
of the desert
and we start playing
609
00:37:27,383 --> 00:37:30,489
like it's hard to blast off
these two minute songs.
610
00:37:30,524 --> 00:37:34,700
Because if people are gonna
drive an hour out into
the middle of the desert,
611
00:37:34,735 --> 00:37:36,806
they want to be entertained.
612
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,776
To me it was kind of
the desert style of the band
to keep playing
613
00:37:41,811 --> 00:37:44,331
because we wanna
keep having a good time.
614
00:37:44,365 --> 00:37:46,367
When you're playing
and you're looking at the sky
615
00:37:46,402 --> 00:37:49,163
you're looking at
the mountains, all of a sudden
people are lighting fires
616
00:37:49,197 --> 00:37:51,130
and drinking
and there's car lights.
617
00:37:51,165 --> 00:37:54,306
If you saw the view
that I saw, you might start
to just play like that too.
618
00:37:54,341 --> 00:37:59,104
[Robbi] If I'm sitting with
an acoustic guitar looking up
at the milky way
619
00:37:59,138 --> 00:38:01,244
what are you
gonna sing about?
620
00:38:01,279 --> 00:38:04,489
♪ My baby don't get on
Well with me ♪
621
00:38:04,523 --> 00:38:06,698
You know, you're not
gonna sing about that.
622
00:38:06,732 --> 00:38:08,044
You don't even wanna speak.
623
00:38:08,078 --> 00:38:10,909
There was something
about the space in their music.
624
00:38:10,943 --> 00:38:13,463
Like they would let
sections really develop.
625
00:38:13,498 --> 00:38:16,328
It had energy and power
and aggression
626
00:38:16,363 --> 00:38:19,297
but in a way that built,
it didn't just go like
627
00:38:19,331 --> 00:38:21,091
one, two, three, four...
[vocalizing]
628
00:38:21,126 --> 00:38:24,440
It was like the sounds got
bigger and bigger and bigger.
629
00:38:24,474 --> 00:38:26,062
[grunge music playing]
630
00:38:38,385 --> 00:38:40,387
[Joshua] It's all part of
a greater atmosphere
631
00:38:40,421 --> 00:38:43,942
It wasn't all about the bands,
it was about big party
632
00:38:43,976 --> 00:38:46,358
and there was a sort of
native element
633
00:38:46,393 --> 00:38:49,361
and you wanna play
this thundering stuff
for your tribe.
634
00:38:49,396 --> 00:38:53,848
It was like punk rock,
and there were hippies,
and dudes into metal.
635
00:38:53,883 --> 00:38:55,333
There was just like...
636
00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:57,645
[Bran] And I thought Kyuss
kind of represented it all.
637
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,234
[Joshua] What was great about
generator parties is that
638
00:39:00,268 --> 00:39:04,480
everyone was allowed to do
their things to the extent
of their willingness.
639
00:39:04,514 --> 00:39:07,828
So in that sort of
artistic anarchy
640
00:39:07,862 --> 00:39:09,623
when it starts to go
out of control
641
00:39:09,657 --> 00:39:13,040
it's so fucking out of control,
you're like...
642
00:39:13,074 --> 00:39:16,837
Hey! Hey, everybody.
Welcome to the desert
643
00:39:16,871 --> 00:39:20,599
It's here. It was here
before we were!
644
00:39:20,634 --> 00:39:25,224
And the cans weren't.
So bring the cans out with you.
All right let's do this.
645
00:39:25,259 --> 00:39:27,537
[Mario] This was our
first big event.
646
00:39:27,572 --> 00:39:28,952
This was a festival.
647
00:39:28,987 --> 00:39:32,542
All of you people
out there are really dirty
and you smell too.
648
00:39:32,577 --> 00:39:34,717
[crowd cheering]
649
00:39:34,751 --> 00:39:36,166
And so do I.
650
00:39:36,201 --> 00:39:38,859
I smell real bad and we're
really fuckin' dirty.
651
00:39:38,893 --> 00:39:43,139
We were so green,
we're just like used to rumbling
in our van out in front of the
generator.
652
00:39:43,173 --> 00:39:44,934
And it hit me like,
"What the fuck are we doing?
653
00:39:44,968 --> 00:39:48,178
We've invited 1500 people
out here, and we don't
even have water
654
00:39:48,213 --> 00:39:50,388
Or toilets and no one
directing parking.
655
00:39:50,422 --> 00:39:54,461
What are we gonna do if this
gets crazy 'cause the cops
are gonna come right to me."
656
00:39:54,495 --> 00:39:57,533
'Cause that's my thing,
generating the power
for all of this.
657
00:39:58,154 --> 00:39:59,811
[band performing]
658
00:40:15,033 --> 00:40:17,104
We were just getting
ready to play,
659
00:40:17,138 --> 00:40:18,588
and this woman comes
up to me and she's like,
660
00:40:18,623 --> 00:40:21,453
"Where is the first aid?
Where's the first aid?"
661
00:40:21,488 --> 00:40:24,525
and I'm like, "First Aid?
There's no first Aid."
662
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,596
She said, "You're fucking
kidding me right?
663
00:40:26,631 --> 00:40:29,116
Shes said, "My husband just got
clocked over the head he's
bleeding."
664
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:30,773
And I'm like, "Oh, my God."
665
00:40:30,807 --> 00:40:34,017
The party had attracted
some gang guys that
lived up...
666
00:40:34,052 --> 00:40:37,780
down the street from there
and they went in and ended up
stealing a car from a guy.
667
00:40:37,814 --> 00:40:40,714
And that guy called the cops
and the cops came and busted
the party.
668
00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:43,579
And they got caught.
669
00:40:43,613 --> 00:40:48,549
They ended up trying
to steal someone's car.
670
00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:52,795
And in doing so they cracked
a guy over the head
with a tire iron.
671
00:41:07,361 --> 00:41:08,880
I panicked and just felt like,
672
00:41:08,914 --> 00:41:10,295
"God, what the fuck
am I gonna do
673
00:41:10,329 --> 00:41:12,400
How am I gonna take care
of this guy, what are we
gonna do."
674
00:41:12,435 --> 00:41:16,266
And I got somebody that had
a car on the outer perimeter
675
00:41:16,301 --> 00:41:19,511
that would take him
to get some medical attention.
676
00:41:19,546 --> 00:41:22,514
There was police choppers
flying over the party
677
00:41:22,549 --> 00:41:24,999
and then the cops came up
and I was totally relieved
678
00:41:25,034 --> 00:41:26,587
because it was scary.
679
00:41:26,622 --> 00:41:29,072
And the cops said,
"Everybody stay put."
680
00:41:29,107 --> 00:41:30,591
Nobody leave.
681
00:41:30,626 --> 00:41:33,663
Turn off the PA,
turn off the music,
turn off the lights.
682
00:41:34,595 --> 00:41:36,355
Everybody stay here.
683
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:38,323
Back then when you
make a mess everywhere,
684
00:41:38,357 --> 00:41:40,946
you know, they wanna find
someone responsible for that.
685
00:41:40,981 --> 00:41:43,224
So you can get 'em to pay for
the clean up or whatever it
is.
686
00:41:43,259 --> 00:41:45,295
And Mario got caught.
And they went to court.
687
00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:47,090
It was a big deal,
he almost went to jail.
688
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:49,437
And they told him,
"You know, you can't have
that generator anymore."
689
00:41:49,472 --> 00:41:52,855
Mario was the only one
who had the generator
and the van to carry it.
690
00:41:52,889 --> 00:41:54,719
We would have
never got anything
691
00:41:54,753 --> 00:41:58,481
if it hadn't been...
Especially my generation,
Mario Lalli, making it happen.
692
00:41:58,516 --> 00:42:00,621
He'd put on shows
just to make sure that
693
00:42:00,656 --> 00:42:02,796
kids, that next generation
would have access to music
694
00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:04,556
and actually be thinking
of it like that.
695
00:42:04,591 --> 00:42:07,490
Because he's more
like a Godfather of music.
696
00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:09,975
Boomer, was the first person
who allowed me to...
697
00:42:10,010 --> 00:42:13,013
We would be like begging,
"Man can we play
in one of these parties."
698
00:42:13,047 --> 00:42:17,604
"You know I got this band,
they're like 15, 16, you know.
699
00:42:17,638 --> 00:42:19,640
"Yeah, fuck it man,
you guys can go on about.
700
00:42:19,675 --> 00:42:22,712
Just bring your stuff up.
You guys can play first,
whatever."
701
00:42:22,747 --> 00:42:26,613
Every scene has that
one person that really
is like the glue,
702
00:42:26,647 --> 00:42:29,616
and the one guy that
sort of pushes everyone
703
00:42:29,650 --> 00:42:31,687
to keep going
and not give up,
704
00:42:31,721 --> 00:42:33,723
and Mario's that dude.
705
00:42:33,758 --> 00:42:37,934
I think he always wished
for more for everyone
and including himself.
706
00:42:37,969 --> 00:42:43,215
And when it starts to spiral
and become something
that's not as cool,
707
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:47,565
and is a little more
bone head, that starts
to become an animal
708
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:49,946
that can't be controlled
by a single person.
709
00:42:49,981 --> 00:42:51,223
[Brant] It was very primal.
710
00:42:51,258 --> 00:42:53,087
He didn't know
what was gonna happen.
711
00:42:53,122 --> 00:42:57,057
He didn't know if it's
gonna get, the cops
are gonna break it up
712
00:42:57,091 --> 00:42:58,610
you know,
there's always fights
713
00:42:58,645 --> 00:43:01,095
Things just kind of
work themselves out
714
00:43:01,130 --> 00:43:03,684
After a little we're like,
"Hey, we still wanted
do some parties."
715
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,755
We say, "Mario, what's up
with the generator?"
716
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:10,070
He says, "Just take it, I can't
use it. You guys can use it
though, as much as you want."
717
00:43:10,104 --> 00:43:12,451
And so we cleaned it up,
we got it running.
718
00:43:12,486 --> 00:43:16,628
And I mean the next weekend,
we're out throwing
a party with it.
719
00:43:16,663 --> 00:43:17,871
[drum beating]
720
00:43:23,014 --> 00:43:25,879
[man] Well, we drive up this
dirt road for 20 minutes.
721
00:43:25,913 --> 00:43:32,230
And here was this
Greek ruin looking thing.
722
00:43:32,264 --> 00:43:36,303
That was essentially
the raddest pool
you can ever imagine
723
00:43:36,337 --> 00:43:37,649
for skating, I mean, just,
724
00:43:37,684 --> 00:43:40,238
it really was so far away
from reality
725
00:43:40,272 --> 00:43:43,862
I mean you're nowhere
near anything, you couldn't
see a building
726
00:43:43,897 --> 00:43:46,658
you couldn't see a light,
we called it...
It was the nudist colony.
727
00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:51,387
[Sophia] The nudist colony was
out in the desert, there used
to be a nudist colony there.
728
00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:53,078
The building had crumbled.
729
00:43:53,113 --> 00:43:55,943
There was a pool that
was left and everybody
skated the pool.
730
00:43:55,978 --> 00:44:00,016
It had originally being called
the Desert Hills
Nudist Ranch
731
00:44:00,051 --> 00:44:05,677
as myth and legend
has it. It closed down
sometime in the mid '70s.
732
00:44:05,712 --> 00:44:07,748
And it's just sat there.
733
00:44:07,783 --> 00:44:09,750
[man] It was ours.
So when you got there
734
00:44:09,785 --> 00:44:11,683
it was something that
we can put a flag
and just say
735
00:44:11,718 --> 00:44:13,858
"Hey, man, you know,
let's go there."
736
00:44:13,892 --> 00:44:16,688
[Ian] Before the rock n roll
happened we'd
be at skateboarding.
737
00:44:16,723 --> 00:44:19,795
In fact it was so hard
to find a place to practice.
738
00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:22,211
As soon as we started
practicing in houses
cops would show up.
739
00:44:22,245 --> 00:44:25,593
So we'd actually start
practicing up there
and next thing, you know,
740
00:44:25,628 --> 00:44:27,354
there's a huge party.
741
00:44:27,388 --> 00:44:28,804
[garage rock playing]
742
00:44:44,751 --> 00:44:48,616
We eventually saw
Unsound, they were
such a great punk band.
743
00:44:48,651 --> 00:44:53,967
We were like, "Fuck, man,
there's no need to try
and carry the punk rock torch,
744
00:44:54,001 --> 00:44:56,279
Unsound has it wired."
745
00:44:56,314 --> 00:44:57,487
'Cause they were so great.
746
00:44:57,522 --> 00:44:59,489
So we kind of went
in the opposite direction.
747
00:44:59,524 --> 00:45:01,457
In the desert if you
sound like someone else
748
00:45:01,491 --> 00:45:03,839
you were gonna get made fun of,
you know.
749
00:45:03,873 --> 00:45:05,944
You see these people
the next day at school.
750
00:45:05,979 --> 00:45:08,636
It's not like you can walk away
from it and start over again.
751
00:45:08,671 --> 00:45:10,880
These are the people
you see all the time.
752
00:45:10,915 --> 00:45:13,503
So there was that importance
on originality.
753
00:45:13,538 --> 00:45:14,850
[Brian] That was one cool thing
about the desert.
754
00:45:14,884 --> 00:45:17,611
You can play with like
Yawning Man
755
00:45:17,645 --> 00:45:20,096
and Unsound,
they play the same bill.
756
00:45:20,131 --> 00:45:21,960
A progressive jazz band...
757
00:45:26,206 --> 00:45:27,759
and then a punk rock band.
758
00:45:34,628 --> 00:45:36,526
[Brian] If you ask me, like,
one quality about Unsound
759
00:45:36,561 --> 00:45:39,219
I would say we had good energy
on stage
760
00:45:39,253 --> 00:45:41,531
that went further
than just the four of us,
761
00:45:41,566 --> 00:45:43,602
it went outwards, people
could feel that.
762
00:45:43,637 --> 00:45:46,605
[Jesse] We all had such
a united sense of oneness.
763
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:51,369
That's what identified us
or illuminated our peer group
764
00:45:51,403 --> 00:45:55,338
was simply that,
"You get this? Do you understand
what we've we got here?"
765
00:45:55,373 --> 00:45:58,479
It's special. Special enough
to maybe make some
records for.
766
00:45:58,514 --> 00:46:01,551
What would have been
a normal question
that you'd have come to
767
00:46:01,586 --> 00:46:04,106
quickly, like, "let's record
and maybe we can do this."
768
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:06,936
Really took a long time
to get to that first phase
769
00:46:06,971 --> 00:46:10,319
and asking yourself
a question like,
"Should we record this?"
770
00:46:10,353 --> 00:46:12,148
It wasn't based
on any kind of like,
771
00:46:12,183 --> 00:46:14,461
"Yeah, this band, you know,
they're going places."
772
00:46:14,495 --> 00:46:17,740
You know, it's just like felt
like you were doing
something for yourself.
773
00:46:17,775 --> 00:46:21,951
Not just doing something
for somebody else's approval
774
00:46:21,986 --> 00:46:24,816
or benefit like,
that is much as anything else.
775
00:46:24,851 --> 00:46:26,784
Made me, like, wanna
do it too.
776
00:46:30,718 --> 00:46:33,583
For me it's the Friday night,
the Saturday night.
777
00:46:33,618 --> 00:46:37,070
It's like not for money
or for chicks or fame or shit.
778
00:46:37,104 --> 00:46:40,107
It's to play because that's
what you do.
779
00:46:40,142 --> 00:46:42,558
It never seemed like
anything more we're
gonna come out of it.
780
00:46:42,592 --> 00:46:44,836
Freedom, you want freedom, man.
781
00:46:44,871 --> 00:46:48,667
The punk rockers...
You wanna do
what you wanna do.
782
00:46:48,702 --> 00:46:51,118
And we didn't let anybody
tell us, where we can do it
783
00:46:51,153 --> 00:46:53,224
or we couldn't do it,
we just went out there
and did it.
784
00:46:53,258 --> 00:46:55,951
And we didn't give a fuck
about the consequences
of cops.
785
00:46:55,985 --> 00:46:58,954
Those parties just took
on their own life.
786
00:46:58,988 --> 00:47:00,196
[cheering]
787
00:47:03,303 --> 00:47:04,925
[indistinct chatter]
788
00:47:08,204 --> 00:47:13,761
The scene is building,
but it's not like bands are
getting established nationally,
789
00:47:13,796 --> 00:47:15,522
putting out records
and touring.
790
00:47:15,556 --> 00:47:18,905
It's just an insular
kind of scene.
791
00:47:24,669 --> 00:47:29,191
It's just freak luck that
Kyuss got discovered
outside of the desert.
792
00:47:29,225 --> 00:47:34,368
This has to do with a woman
by the name Katherine Enny,
discovered us.
793
00:47:34,403 --> 00:47:36,267
And she offered
to manage us.
794
00:47:36,301 --> 00:47:39,891
A friend of ours, his dad had
played drums with the Osmonds
and things like that.
795
00:47:39,926 --> 00:47:42,825
He was like, "Well, I know
a studio up here
in Orange County."
796
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:46,587
And we went there
and recorded and the woman
that was the studio manager,
797
00:47:46,622 --> 00:47:48,866
she was like,
"I'll manage you."
798
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:51,903
And we got signed two weeks
out of high school.
799
00:47:51,938 --> 00:47:54,492
You know, I was on tour,
two weeks out of high school.
800
00:47:54,526 --> 00:47:55,803
I was trying to get
out of the desert
801
00:47:55,838 --> 00:47:57,909
I was always trying
to go away from there...
802
00:47:57,944 --> 00:48:00,532
When it got exciting
I wanted to be there.
803
00:48:00,567 --> 00:48:02,741
So to actually have
the chance to like
804
00:48:02,776 --> 00:48:04,640
"Let's go to LA
or let's go anywhere,"
805
00:48:04,674 --> 00:48:05,952
I was like,
"Let's do it."
806
00:48:11,785 --> 00:48:15,202
[Brian] Trying to break into
the Los Angeles music scene
was real fuckin' hard.
807
00:48:15,237 --> 00:48:17,308
I mean, especially when
you're a band from the desert.
808
00:48:17,342 --> 00:48:18,999
"From where?" How many people
they're gonna draw?
809
00:48:19,034 --> 00:48:20,898
And what are they gonna bring?
Two people with them?
810
00:48:20,932 --> 00:48:22,796
[Nick] I ran into people who
stood by the stage, like,
811
00:48:22,830 --> 00:48:26,386
"Dude we saw Kyuss play"
and I'm like,
"No, you didn't.
812
00:48:26,420 --> 00:48:28,077
You did not see us play."
813
00:48:28,112 --> 00:48:31,632
"No, dude, you guys are great."
"When? Where? Tell me when?"
814
00:48:31,667 --> 00:48:35,671
'Cause when I was in the band,
there wasn't a whole lot
of people coming to see us.
815
00:48:35,705 --> 00:48:38,363
We went out and got
some notoriety.
816
00:48:38,398 --> 00:48:39,571
Although people hated it
817
00:48:39,606 --> 00:48:41,608
for most of the time
that we were around.
818
00:48:41,642 --> 00:48:45,232
And the reaction of us
getting signed was mixed.
819
00:48:45,267 --> 00:48:48,132
They're from the desert.
But they were removed
820
00:48:48,166 --> 00:48:51,790
because they all got signed
to major label.
821
00:48:51,825 --> 00:48:53,965
And became
part of that machine.
822
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,348
You know then you have
managers and publicists
823
00:48:57,382 --> 00:49:01,317
and people doing everything
for them, and rightfully so,
they rocked, they're great.
824
00:49:01,352 --> 00:49:03,147
It's amazing what happened.
825
00:49:03,181 --> 00:49:05,356
[Joshua] The scene was so
personal to everyone
826
00:49:05,390 --> 00:49:08,014
that understandably
some people are like,
"What are you doing?"
827
00:49:08,048 --> 00:49:10,637
You know,
"Does that even happen?
Is that okay?"
828
00:49:10,671 --> 00:49:13,640
You know we've never
dealt with this situation,
I need a ruling.
829
00:49:13,674 --> 00:49:17,540
And also the scene
was like, "Do well, but
don't do too well."
830
00:49:17,575 --> 00:49:22,683
[Scott] Sure there were some
local bands, but nobody
was going for it, like,
831
00:49:22,718 --> 00:49:25,410
recording and putting out
records.
832
00:49:25,445 --> 00:49:28,586
I knew these kids
were really serious
833
00:49:28,620 --> 00:49:31,278
and they wanted it.
834
00:49:31,313 --> 00:49:33,901
We rehearse six days a week
for 7 to 8 hours a day.
835
00:49:33,936 --> 00:49:35,903
We could play our songs
inside and out
836
00:49:35,938 --> 00:49:38,941
and change them at moment's
notice because it was, like,
that's what you do.
837
00:49:38,976 --> 00:49:41,047
Let's go try it,
if we fail we fail.
838
00:49:41,081 --> 00:49:43,256
Let's go play, let's go put on
our music to these people.
839
00:49:43,290 --> 00:49:46,984
'Cause they can't get it
to me other way, you know,
got to take it to 'em.
840
00:49:52,403 --> 00:49:57,925
In 1992, the guy that
was the singer
of my punk band
841
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,722
when I lived back
in Virginia, Scream.
842
00:50:01,757 --> 00:50:04,449
He told me to go see this show
843
00:50:04,484 --> 00:50:06,693
that was coming into town
when I was living in Seattle.
844
00:50:06,727 --> 00:50:11,491
The Obsessed that were
a rock band, really heavy band
from Washington DC,
845
00:50:11,525 --> 00:50:13,803
were on tour
with this band Kyuss.
846
00:50:13,838 --> 00:50:16,944
When they started playing
I immediately knew
something was different.
847
00:50:16,979 --> 00:50:22,157
'Cause I couldn't tell
what type of person
848
00:50:23,261 --> 00:50:24,711
each person was.
849
00:50:24,745 --> 00:50:30,441
Like, Nick was wearing these
greasy fuckin' stained
gray sweat pants
850
00:50:30,475 --> 00:50:34,169
with high tops and no shirt
and his hair was down
to his ass
851
00:50:34,203 --> 00:50:37,068
and looked like he hadn't
washed it in a year.
852
00:50:37,103 --> 00:50:40,037
Brant, sort of looked
like he was
853
00:50:40,071 --> 00:50:42,418
in a fuckin'
Cheech and Chong movie
or something.
854
00:50:42,453 --> 00:50:46,077
And then Josh looked
like he played baseball
or something.
855
00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:49,080
He looked kind of like
a real American kid.
856
00:50:49,115 --> 00:50:51,324
And John it was funny
like he'd sing
857
00:50:51,358 --> 00:50:53,843
but then he would lay back
and they would
858
00:50:53,878 --> 00:50:56,570
go off on these jams that
were just instrumental.
859
00:50:56,605 --> 00:51:00,367
Which is unusual
in, like, the underground
punk rock scene
860
00:51:00,402 --> 00:51:04,268
or whatever. They would
go off on these jams that
were fucking amazing.
861
00:51:13,691 --> 00:51:17,591
Soon after that
I went and bought
Blues For The Red Sun.
862
00:51:17,626 --> 00:51:19,455
And I was just totally
blown away.
863
00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:23,770
Nirvana was blowing up
when Blues For The Red Sun
came out.
864
00:51:23,804 --> 00:51:27,843
And Dave Grohl
was a Godsend for Kyuss.
865
00:51:27,877 --> 00:51:32,572
In the wake of Nirvana
people's attention and taste
866
00:51:32,606 --> 00:51:37,059
were really brought to this
music in a way that really
never happened before.
867
00:51:37,094 --> 00:51:40,131
Now, it's like the masses
are there.
868
00:51:40,166 --> 00:51:44,135
I think I bought that record
for at least 20 people.
869
00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:47,690
I just gave it to them.
I gave it to my friends
in Santa Cruz.
870
00:51:47,725 --> 00:51:49,658
I gave it someone
in Metallica.
871
00:51:49,692 --> 00:51:51,867
I gave to my neighbors.
I was just
872
00:51:51,901 --> 00:51:55,422
like,"This is the fucking most
incredible record,
you have to hear this."
873
00:51:55,457 --> 00:51:56,906
And everyone agreed, you know.
874
00:51:56,941 --> 00:52:01,290
[Dave] He was raving about it
inSpin magazine on MTV.
875
00:52:01,325 --> 00:52:04,914
And it was like "Holy shit"
it's on a whole new level now.
876
00:52:15,201 --> 00:52:18,342
You can plug and hype
the band all you want.
877
00:52:18,376 --> 00:52:21,241
But it doesn't make us
any more special than
what we are.
878
00:52:21,276 --> 00:52:24,520
[Joshua] It doesn't make
people like you.
879
00:52:24,555 --> 00:52:26,281
If writers want
to hype the band
880
00:52:26,315 --> 00:52:29,284
and say we're you know, great.
That's... We were...
881
00:52:29,318 --> 00:52:32,459
That's really flattering
and we're into that.
882
00:52:32,494 --> 00:52:37,775
But I don't want any listeners
to think that we're some
huge musical phenomenon.
883
00:52:37,809 --> 00:52:40,191
We're just four guys
that enjoy playing rock.
884
00:52:40,226 --> 00:52:45,265
And that's all we'll be.
That's all we wanna be.
885
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:48,061
[Scott] I got a call
from Brant.
886
00:52:48,095 --> 00:52:52,238
And he said,
"Dude, Nick is out,
can you fill in for few shows?"
887
00:52:52,272 --> 00:52:54,585
I said, "Yeah, man.
That'll be a blast."
888
00:52:54,619 --> 00:52:56,483
And we got a phone call,
889
00:52:56,518 --> 00:52:59,072
"You wanna go to Australia
with Metallica?"
890
00:52:59,106 --> 00:53:02,179
Holy Shit! Those guys
didn't have passports yet.
891
00:53:02,213 --> 00:53:04,215
Somehow they got their
passports within a week.
892
00:53:04,836 --> 00:53:07,356
And took off.
893
00:53:07,391 --> 00:53:11,015
Played arena rock shows
with Metallica, it was insane.
894
00:53:11,049 --> 00:53:13,051
[audience cheering]
895
00:53:48,846 --> 00:53:50,744
[Dave] That's a tricky
transition to make.
896
00:53:50,779 --> 00:53:55,301
Coming up in a small
underground punk rock scene
or small music community,
897
00:53:55,335 --> 00:54:00,237
making that transition
from there to being
a big arena or stadium
898
00:54:00,271 --> 00:54:03,101
is really weird.
It can fuck you up.
899
00:54:03,136 --> 00:54:06,070
I don't know,
just in such a short
period of time
900
00:54:06,104 --> 00:54:08,417
to go from playing
in a pizza parlor
901
00:54:08,452 --> 00:54:12,249
next to cardboard cut out
of some football player
902
00:54:12,283 --> 00:54:16,287
to playing in arenas
with Metallica was little
overwhelming.
903
00:54:16,322 --> 00:54:18,289
More so for some than others.
904
00:54:18,324 --> 00:54:21,361
It was really trippy for me,
because all I wanted to do
905
00:54:21,396 --> 00:54:25,607
was participate,
be part of this local scene.
906
00:54:25,641 --> 00:54:28,644
And then I'm like
opening up for Metallica.
907
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:33,718
When you're with your friends
in your basement, in your van,
908
00:54:33,753 --> 00:54:38,240
going on tour doing things
on that level and on your own,
909
00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:40,863
you are sort of
in control of everything.
910
00:54:40,898 --> 00:54:43,625
When your band starts
getting bigger
911
00:54:43,659 --> 00:54:46,248
and you make a jump
from something like that
912
00:54:46,283 --> 00:54:49,458
to a fucking stadium
opening up for Metallica.
913
00:54:49,493 --> 00:54:51,943
It can feel really
threatening and weird.
914
00:54:51,978 --> 00:54:54,014
If you over think it
and think too much
915
00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:58,087
you could really start feeling
like it's just being swept out
from under your feet
916
00:54:58,122 --> 00:54:59,572
and it's not yours anymore.
917
00:54:59,606 --> 00:55:03,369
I had my own personal
perspective of what Kyuss was
918
00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:05,923
what we were doing
and where it could go.
919
00:55:05,957 --> 00:55:10,237
To me it was always
just this extension of where
our root was in the desert.
920
00:55:10,272 --> 00:55:11,549
[Jesse] Kyuss is
a beautiful band
921
00:55:11,584 --> 00:55:14,103
and it's the testament
to it's desert success.
922
00:55:14,138 --> 00:55:15,760
They were getting success.
923
00:55:15,795 --> 00:55:18,625
When Brant came back
from the Australian tour
with Metallica,
924
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,284
Brant decided to get
all guilty that he was
getting success I guess.
925
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:25,080
And he came back
and we all went to a party
926
00:55:25,114 --> 00:55:27,669
I picked him up at the airport,
we all went to a party
927
00:55:27,703 --> 00:55:29,705
out in the desert.
928
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,536
And he watched this
punk rock band play and he was
929
00:55:32,570 --> 00:55:36,091
he got into this,
"Dude, the roots", like,
"Okay, so that's them.
930
00:55:36,125 --> 00:55:40,095
It's not you, you're not..."
I mean, whatever, he decided
to get all guilty feeling
931
00:55:40,129 --> 00:55:42,822
and he shaved his head,
that, to me, doesn't
make any sense.
932
00:55:42,856 --> 00:55:44,410
But that's what broke Kyuss up.
933
00:55:44,444 --> 00:55:47,033
I was on an idealistic crusade
for sure, man.
934
00:55:47,067 --> 00:55:50,623
And I thought that's what
the part of desert was,
I mean that was what...
935
00:55:50,657 --> 00:55:54,799
we came from such
a primal environment.
936
00:55:54,834 --> 00:55:59,390
It just made sense to me
that we didn't turn into
this super star thing.
937
00:55:59,425 --> 00:56:02,635
People weren't feeling
what I was feeling.
So I was like,
938
00:56:02,669 --> 00:56:06,535
you know I...
Shaved my head
and then quit.
939
00:56:08,434 --> 00:56:09,676
It was about
940
00:56:09,711 --> 00:56:12,334
to a certain extent
flogging yourself as proof.
941
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:15,199
I think especially
because when we left the desert
942
00:56:15,233 --> 00:56:16,994
there was a little bit
of shit we had to deal with
943
00:56:17,028 --> 00:56:21,032
where someone was like,
"Oh, rock star now",
we were like, what?
944
00:56:21,067 --> 00:56:24,346
As a proof of that you
sort of like flog yourself
in public.
945
00:56:24,381 --> 00:56:27,901
For me in being involved
with in this band
946
00:56:27,936 --> 00:56:32,354
that was being recognized
and taken out
of the desert scene.
947
00:56:32,389 --> 00:56:37,980
It's absolutely our duty
to represent this environment,
this scene.
948
00:56:38,015 --> 00:56:41,743
And so for me that's where
Blues for Red Sun
was all about.
949
00:56:41,777 --> 00:56:43,883
It was about us saying,
"We're a desert band."
950
00:56:43,917 --> 00:56:45,505
I love Kyuss.
I love all their music.
951
00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:48,991
But it stereotyped what a band
is supposed to sound like,
952
00:56:49,026 --> 00:56:50,372
if they come from the desert.
953
00:56:50,407 --> 00:56:51,994
And that's so not true.
954
00:56:52,029 --> 00:56:56,136
What if you have ideas
that are beyond the boxes
you built for yourself.
955
00:56:56,171 --> 00:56:57,897
And that notion of being like,
956
00:56:57,931 --> 00:57:01,245
"You're free to do what you
want as long as it's
inside these walls."
957
00:57:01,279 --> 00:57:02,419
It's stupid.
958
00:57:02,453 --> 00:57:04,248
I started to feel
penned in by that.
959
00:57:04,282 --> 00:57:07,769
Musically it had to be heavier
than it was, you know.
960
00:57:07,803 --> 00:57:11,462
So, it was a big driving force
for why I felt I had to leave.
961
00:57:11,497 --> 00:57:15,846
People spend too much
time categorizing
what everything is
962
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,746
Just throw it on your
turning table, throw it on your
CD player, whatever you have,
963
00:57:19,781 --> 00:57:22,128
and listen to it,
don't worry about what it is
964
00:57:22,162 --> 00:57:24,406
No one cares, it doesn't
matter anymore, you know.
965
00:57:24,441 --> 00:57:25,752
That's what should
have happened.
966
00:57:25,787 --> 00:57:28,341
It shouldn't matter anymore
what you are.
967
00:57:28,375 --> 00:57:32,172
There are so many like
fusion everything, whatever.
968
00:57:32,207 --> 00:57:34,347
[jazz music playing]
969
00:57:48,637 --> 00:57:51,398
[Mario] We started getting
so experimental
970
00:57:51,433 --> 00:57:54,332
with stuff that we became
obsessed with
971
00:57:54,367 --> 00:57:57,508
listening to all these
avant garde jazz artists.
972
00:57:57,543 --> 00:57:59,614
We've really started
to move on
973
00:57:59,648 --> 00:58:04,929
almost alienating a lot of
the fans of the music scene
in the desert.
974
00:58:04,964 --> 00:58:07,449
Around that time,
there was a shift,
975
00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:10,107
as far as the type of people
that would come to the party
976
00:58:10,141 --> 00:58:13,351
I don't think they were
necessarily there for
the music.
977
00:58:13,386 --> 00:58:17,597
I think they just heard it was
the thing and so you really
got this other element.
978
00:58:17,632 --> 00:58:19,150
It was lawless.
979
00:58:19,185 --> 00:58:22,637
There were fuckin' skinheads
with Rottweilers
and Mexican gang members.
980
00:58:22,671 --> 00:58:25,398
And if you got into trouble,
you' were getting yourself
out.
981
00:58:29,713 --> 00:58:33,199
If you get in a fight
in the desert, there's
nobody there to break it up.
982
00:58:33,233 --> 00:58:36,582
People go, "Whoa! Whoa!
Give 'em some room."
983
00:58:36,616 --> 00:58:38,722
So this shit goes on
till it's over.
984
00:58:38,756 --> 00:58:42,449
And when you start having
these locations that are free
from the law
985
00:58:42,484 --> 00:58:44,797
that can be amazing.
986
00:58:44,831 --> 00:58:47,765
And then also it can be
a total fucking calamity.
987
00:58:49,595 --> 00:58:51,355
[cheering]
988
00:58:55,704 --> 00:58:58,155
[Brian] So we were playing,
in the middle
of playing our set
989
00:58:58,189 --> 00:59:03,298
and we played right
near the pool,
five feet from the coping.
990
00:59:03,332 --> 00:59:05,576
Guys are skating
and I think after a while
991
00:59:05,611 --> 00:59:07,682
some guys wanted
to slam dance in the pool
992
00:59:07,716 --> 00:59:10,995
but there were guys skating.
So the skaters were like,
"No, fuckin' get out."
993
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:14,551
So the fight started
and I think that one guy
got his ass kicked.
994
00:59:14,585 --> 00:59:17,139
And so he went
and first started
throwing rocks.
995
00:59:17,174 --> 00:59:19,383
So we're kinda looking around
and seeing the fuck was doing
996
00:59:19,417 --> 00:59:23,698
and eventually this kid
went and started a fire above
and below, where we were at.
997
00:59:23,732 --> 00:59:26,632
And he really tried to trap
everyone I think.
998
00:59:26,666 --> 00:59:32,085
I looked up and I can make out
the ridge line in orange.
999
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,432
It kinda went from
nobody noticed it
1000
00:59:34,467 --> 00:59:36,158
to everybody knew
all at the same time.
1001
00:59:36,193 --> 00:59:40,473
It was windy and it
quickly escalated
to the point of panic.
1002
00:59:40,507 --> 00:59:43,683
Where it was like everyone
was waiting for us
to finish the song
1003
00:59:43,718 --> 00:59:45,340
and we were looking over
our shoulders at the fire
1004
00:59:45,374 --> 00:59:48,274
getting bigger
and bigger and bigger.
1005
00:59:48,308 --> 00:59:50,794
And pretty soon
it's coming at you.
1006
00:59:50,828 --> 00:59:55,419
[Tory] And by that time
the fire had
advanced all the way down
1007
00:59:55,453 --> 00:59:59,112
to the bottom of the hill.
I was second to the last
1008
00:59:59,147 --> 01:00:00,942
vehicle out.
1009
01:00:00,976 --> 01:00:05,774
And with the windows up you
could feel the intensity
of the heat from the fire.
1010
01:00:05,809 --> 01:00:09,985
We stopped playing
and everyone panicked
and people bailed out of there.
1011
01:00:10,020 --> 01:00:13,057
It had to be, like, a
1200 to 1300 acre brush fire.
1012
01:00:17,683 --> 01:00:18,787
[siren wailing]
1013
01:00:19,892 --> 01:00:23,689
[woman] I can't believe it.
There they go.
1014
01:00:25,138 --> 01:00:26,692
Another fire.
1015
01:00:29,867 --> 01:00:33,353
That was the end because
that party was huge.
1016
01:00:33,388 --> 01:00:36,874
Too big for that place
to sustain, there's people
from out of town.
1017
01:00:36,909 --> 01:00:40,878
So they bring out of town
friends and it starts
to get beyond the desert.
1018
01:00:40,913 --> 01:00:43,536
It's symbolically perfect
that one night
1019
01:00:43,570 --> 01:00:46,159
someone lights the fire
and burns the whole place down.
1020
01:00:46,194 --> 01:00:49,059
We watched it get destroyed
basically.
1021
01:00:49,093 --> 01:00:50,923
I cried when I saw it burning
1022
01:00:50,957 --> 01:00:54,823
I know a few other guys
that thought of the spot,
as their playground.
1023
01:00:54,858 --> 01:00:58,033
It's yours. It's your home.
And the colony was our home.
1024
01:00:58,068 --> 01:00:59,345
[Sophia] It was for us.
1025
01:00:59,379 --> 01:01:02,003
You know, we weren't
trying to do anything else
1026
01:01:02,037 --> 01:01:05,903
but have our friends
play music, party,
and be left alone.
1027
01:01:05,938 --> 01:01:09,251
Sometimes you'd go
and everything would be
an awesome night
1028
01:01:09,286 --> 01:01:10,459
everything was great.
1029
01:01:10,494 --> 01:01:12,185
Then it turned into
people getting stabbed.
1030
01:01:12,220 --> 01:01:15,948
Or people like,
pulling guns out and it
turned into a place that
1031
01:01:15,982 --> 01:01:20,262
got pretty scary and then
it just turned into a place
that didn't exist anymore.
1032
01:01:20,297 --> 01:01:24,059
They actually landfilled
the new bowl and actually
tore it out finally
1033
01:01:24,094 --> 01:01:26,372
because I guess some kid
stabbed somebody in the pit.
1034
01:01:26,406 --> 01:01:29,651
Inside the bowl.
And they had to take it out
and it's a shame
1035
01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:31,377
'Cause it was like,
a historical place.
1036
01:01:31,411 --> 01:01:35,070
To me, it should be like a
historical landmark,
like preserved.
1037
01:01:35,105 --> 01:01:38,522
Once it got real popular,
people coming down
that's when the cops showed.
1038
01:01:38,556 --> 01:01:40,731
It had a life of it's own
for years.
1039
01:01:40,766 --> 01:01:42,491
So maybe someone's
digging out again
1040
01:01:42,526 --> 01:01:45,771
I don't know it could be gone.
I haven't been
up there in so long.
1041
01:01:46,875 --> 01:01:50,776
You know, I mean,
what became like punk rock
1042
01:01:50,810 --> 01:01:54,124
and having a good time,
and couple of kegs
1043
01:01:54,158 --> 01:01:56,954
and some bands and then
it turned into more
and more people
1044
01:01:56,989 --> 01:01:58,576
and it just got more
and more violent.
1045
01:01:58,611 --> 01:02:00,820
More and more uncontrollable.
1046
01:02:00,855 --> 01:02:03,858
And then it's just like,
you know.
1047
01:02:03,892 --> 01:02:06,481
Nature kind of takes
it's course.
1048
01:02:18,044 --> 01:02:20,702
[Sean] Zezo Zece Zadfrack
and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion
1049
01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:22,600
that band had it's moments,
it was pretty good.
1050
01:02:22,635 --> 01:02:26,328
And then when we started
shooting drugs, all of a sudden,
I start listening to music.
1051
01:02:26,363 --> 01:02:27,985
That I never thought
was cool.
1052
01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:30,781
Like when The Who
and The Clash were
on tour together.
1053
01:02:30,816 --> 01:02:32,369
This guys like,
"Hey, I got a ticket.
1054
01:02:32,403 --> 01:02:34,785
Wanna go see the Clash?"
like, "Fuck, no,
I'm a punker, man.
1055
01:02:34,820 --> 01:02:38,168
I ain't gunna go to no rock
concert and see the fuckin'
shitty Who. I don't want to...
1056
01:02:38,202 --> 01:02:39,928
I go to clubs."
1057
01:02:39,963 --> 01:02:41,792
But then as soon as
I'm shooting dope,
1058
01:02:41,827 --> 01:02:44,795
now all of a sudden, I want
to listen to T. Rex
and see the Stones
1059
01:02:44,830 --> 01:02:48,143
Johnny Thunders and all
the fuckin' junkie heroes
of the guitar world.
1060
01:02:48,178 --> 01:02:49,800
So I started
bands like that.
1061
01:02:50,490 --> 01:02:52,838
["Swingset Superman" playing]
1062
01:03:18,864 --> 01:03:20,935
I was running over with
dirt bags shooting speed
1063
01:03:20,969 --> 01:03:23,178
I was like already gone
to the next level, dude.,
I was already,
1064
01:03:23,213 --> 01:03:26,457
out with like, wizards, like,
getting high always
came first.,
1065
01:03:26,492 --> 01:03:28,874
before music or anything
and then after I get high
1066
01:03:28,908 --> 01:03:31,911
I had to think that
I was in a band and jam stuff.
1067
01:03:31,946 --> 01:03:34,983
What happened is that we all
got tweaked out on speed
1068
01:03:35,018 --> 01:03:38,400
and in the end even
those guys i think were bummed
out.
1069
01:03:38,435 --> 01:03:40,195
Just fell apart eventually.
1070
01:03:40,230 --> 01:03:43,750
Even with a whole band
of tweakers no one wanted
to fucking hang out.
1071
01:03:56,522 --> 01:03:59,939
I was just lost trying
to figure out more ways
to get to spoon.
1072
01:03:59,974 --> 01:04:01,768
Then I ended up getting
my girlfriend pregnant.
1073
01:04:01,803 --> 01:04:03,460
And I went into a rehab.
1074
01:04:03,494 --> 01:04:07,084
I didn't realize that
it was a world beyond me,
you know what I mean.
1075
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:08,879
I was a little self centered
as a kid.
1076
01:04:08,914 --> 01:04:11,054
[Mario] He went through
a lot of searching.
1077
01:04:11,088 --> 01:04:15,748
By doing that he brought
all these influences
to the desert.
1078
01:04:15,782 --> 01:04:17,543
That I was always
in awe of that dude.
1079
01:04:17,577 --> 01:04:22,789
He'd just hold court.
He just had such a unique
character about him.
1080
01:04:22,824 --> 01:04:25,758
And he finally found a way
to funnel that into art.
1081
01:04:25,792 --> 01:04:29,624
[Joshua] I love him so much
because I'm always like,
"So anything goes."
1082
01:04:29,658 --> 01:04:31,937
He's loose and wild
and there's that element
1083
01:04:31,971 --> 01:04:33,835
in the music
that's beautiful,
1084
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,664
purposeful, bone headedness.
1085
01:04:35,699 --> 01:04:39,979
Where it's like monkeys playing
on the keyboard, you know,
it's wonderful.
1086
01:04:40,014 --> 01:04:42,775
[Sean] I love the desert and I
see the desert for what it is.
1087
01:04:42,809 --> 01:04:46,330
You know, beautiful.
I love it here, man.
1088
01:04:46,365 --> 01:04:50,921
I've been clean 17 years
and I generally feel okay.
1089
01:04:50,956 --> 01:04:52,578
And if anything, it's like,
1090
01:04:52,612 --> 01:04:54,649
what a bummer the way
I might have behaved
here and there,
1091
01:04:54,683 --> 01:04:57,859
but we all did and that goes
back to just being fuckin' kids,
you know, I mean...
1092
01:04:57,894 --> 01:05:02,726
So all my memories are like,
of how I love these people.
1093
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,904
Really. And not, and not like,
You know, anything else.
1094
01:05:07,938 --> 01:05:10,182
[Joshua] Yeah, music is
something that
I could do it alone,
1095
01:05:10,216 --> 01:05:13,875
but then you'll be all alone.
I think the desire to create
1096
01:05:13,910 --> 01:05:16,809
a family of people
that have all these talents,
1097
01:05:16,843 --> 01:05:18,915
that are different
than yours and that together,
1098
01:05:18,949 --> 01:05:21,607
the sum of your parts
would be this amazing thing.
1099
01:05:21,641 --> 01:05:24,713
It could be something
unforgettable
something classic.
1100
01:05:24,748 --> 01:05:30,581
The desert is such
a wide open blank canvas.
1101
01:05:30,616 --> 01:05:33,515
Generator parties,
Across the River,
1102
01:05:33,550 --> 01:05:37,312
Zezo Zece Zadfrack
and the Dune Buggy
Attack Battalion,
1103
01:05:37,347 --> 01:05:42,973
Yawning Man, Unsound,
Kyuss, and it all worked.
1104
01:05:43,008 --> 01:05:45,872
And so, to me
it was an art thing.
1105
01:05:45,907 --> 01:05:48,979
[Mario] That freedom,
that weird like, "Fuck it!
1106
01:05:49,014 --> 01:05:51,154
anything goes
anything goes."
1107
01:05:51,188 --> 01:05:54,019
It was about art
and it was about music
and about ideas.
1108
01:05:54,053 --> 01:05:58,920
It wasn't about being drunk
and on drugs, beating
the fuck out of people,
1109
01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:03,062
and just expressing yourself,
that way, there's
something real there.
1110
01:06:03,097 --> 01:06:06,410
At the time Fatso Jetson
came round, I had gone
through some shit.
1111
01:06:06,445 --> 01:06:07,998
You know, and I didn't...
[laughing]
1112
01:06:08,033 --> 01:06:11,070
I kind of had some things
to write about, you know.
1113
01:06:11,105 --> 01:06:12,969
["Magma" playing]
1114
01:06:18,319 --> 01:06:20,804
[Dave] I got to see
Fatso Jetson once.
1115
01:06:20,838 --> 01:06:23,013
Because everyone said
"You have to see this band.
1116
01:06:23,048 --> 01:06:28,053
This is the guy that
inspired all of the other
dudes to play music.
1117
01:06:28,087 --> 01:06:31,159
He's the one they look up to,
that's the guy.
1118
01:06:31,194 --> 01:06:32,505
And I got it.
1119
01:06:32,540 --> 01:06:35,163
To me he is what
desert rock is.
1120
01:06:35,198 --> 01:06:38,304
If I had to answer it,
somebody said,
"Describe desert music."
1121
01:06:38,339 --> 01:06:39,823
I'd say "that guy".
1122
01:06:39,857 --> 01:06:42,895
[Mario] It comes down
to expression,
it has nothing to do with hair,
1123
01:06:42,929 --> 01:06:45,449
it's nothing to do
with cool hats,
1124
01:06:45,484 --> 01:06:47,382
or fucking black fingernails.
1125
01:06:47,417 --> 01:06:51,455
You know, for me it goes
into weird weird places,
1126
01:06:51,490 --> 01:06:53,319
cartoon music, circus music,
1127
01:06:53,354 --> 01:06:57,944
wherever it goes it's there's
some weird way of expressing
yourself.
1128
01:06:57,979 --> 01:06:59,705
That is the bottom line,
1129
01:06:59,739 --> 01:07:02,846
Mario would do this thing,
every couple of years they
change their band name
1130
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,573
and the style would change
just a little bit on the dial.
1131
01:07:05,607 --> 01:07:08,576
didn't matter if it's
Across the River
or Yawning Man
1132
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:10,026
later on Fatso Jetson.
1133
01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:12,200
You know, click over
another 10 percent
1134
01:07:12,235 --> 01:07:15,686
and that really was
one of the great examples,
1135
01:07:15,721 --> 01:07:17,861
for me, of wanting to do
that as well.
1136
01:07:17,895 --> 01:07:19,518
[crowd cheering]
1137
01:07:19,552 --> 01:07:22,797
We'd like to play one
more song, you've got
time for one more?
1138
01:07:24,316 --> 01:07:25,524
One more?
1139
01:07:27,388 --> 01:07:30,011
It really ingrained me
like the name doesn't matter.
1140
01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:31,840
You should be willing
to let all that go
1141
01:07:31,875 --> 01:07:33,842
and play what ever sounds good.
No matter what it is.
1142
01:07:33,877 --> 01:07:35,603
Because music's
the only goal.
1143
01:07:35,637 --> 01:07:37,398
["Long Slow Goodbye" playing]
1144
01:07:44,474 --> 01:07:47,753
It's just chasing music
it's not chasing anything else.
1145
01:07:47,787 --> 01:07:51,446
And I think I witnessed
that and got early
inspiration of that
1146
01:07:51,481 --> 01:07:56,037
from watching Boomer just
leave something behind
and shed it like a snake skin.
1147
01:07:56,072 --> 01:07:58,384
And be like next thing
on to the next.
1148
01:07:58,419 --> 01:08:03,527
♪ Where have you gone
again my sweet? ♪
1149
01:08:03,562 --> 01:08:07,359
♪ Everybody wants to know
1150
01:08:07,393 --> 01:08:12,467
♪ Where have you gone
again my sweet? ♪
1151
01:08:12,502 --> 01:08:16,782
♪ Everybody wants to know
1152
01:08:16,816 --> 01:08:20,061
♪ Where you gone...
1153
01:08:24,169 --> 01:08:27,310
At the time we didn't know it,
but when Kyuss left town,
1154
01:08:27,344 --> 01:08:30,830
I think in a lot of ways,
it made the other bands
1155
01:08:30,865 --> 01:08:33,247
go and look
at that possibility.
1156
01:08:33,281 --> 01:08:37,527
You stop focusing on
Friday nights and you go,
"Wait, I can keep doing this?"
1157
01:08:37,561 --> 01:08:41,531
and even now I'm, like,
someone's gonna come in here
and be like, "You gotta go!
1158
01:08:41,565 --> 01:08:44,085
We're gonna turn this shit off
and we just go, "Okay".
1159
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,674
There's something in me that's
always like that's gonna happen
1160
01:08:46,708 --> 01:08:51,127
because I just never expected
this to keep going
and still going.
1161
01:08:51,161 --> 01:08:53,129
[Brant] There was
no destination.
1162
01:08:53,784 --> 01:08:56,442
We were just all stoked,
1163
01:08:56,477 --> 01:09:01,240
to like build something
and get it out on the road.
1164
01:09:01,275 --> 01:09:04,726
It was built
to just blast off.
1165
01:09:04,761 --> 01:09:06,521
And that's exactly
what we did.
1166
01:09:07,246 --> 01:09:09,731
We were all from the desert.
1167
01:09:09,766 --> 01:09:12,148
Going nowhere at lightspeed.
1168
01:09:12,182 --> 01:09:13,632
["Long Slow Goodbye"
continues playing]
1169
01:09:13,666 --> 01:09:16,462
♪ ...Where you gone?
1170
01:09:25,126 --> 01:09:29,544
♪ I'm just a ghost,
I'm on your street ♪
1171
01:09:29,579 --> 01:09:33,548
♪ Waitin', when you
Comin' home ♪
1172
01:09:33,583 --> 01:09:38,035
♪ I'm just a ghost,
I'm on your street ♪
1173
01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:41,660
♪ Waitin', when you
Comin' home ♪
1174
01:09:42,488 --> 01:09:45,284
♪ Gone so long
1175
01:09:50,738 --> 01:09:57,227
♪ Where you gone?
1176
01:09:57,262 --> 01:10:04,165
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1177
01:10:05,787 --> 01:10:12,518
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1178
01:10:24,081 --> 01:10:28,396
♪ I'm just a ghost
I'm on your street ♪
1179
01:10:28,431 --> 01:10:32,538
♪ Waitin', when you
Comin' home ♪
1180
01:10:32,573 --> 01:10:36,956
♪ I'm just a ghost
I'm on your street ♪
1181
01:10:36,991 --> 01:10:41,167
♪ Waitin', when you
Comin' home ♪
1182
01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:44,550
♪ Gone so long
1183
01:10:45,171 --> 01:10:47,139
♪
1184
01:10:49,659 --> 01:10:53,628
♪ Where you gone?
1185
01:10:56,182 --> 01:11:02,706
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1186
01:11:04,743 --> 01:11:10,714
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1187
01:11:18,584 --> 01:11:23,313
♪ In every voice
I hear you speak ♪
1188
01:11:23,348 --> 01:11:27,213
♪ Waitin' by the telephone
1189
01:11:27,248 --> 01:11:31,528
♪ I close my eyes
I just can't sleep ♪
1190
01:11:31,563 --> 01:11:35,912
♪ Roll and tumble
All night long ♪
1191
01:11:35,946 --> 01:11:38,501
♪ All night long
1192
01:11:39,536 --> 01:11:42,090
♪
1193
01:11:44,265 --> 01:11:48,683
♪ Where you gone?
1194
01:11:50,961 --> 01:11:57,692
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1195
01:11:59,211 --> 01:12:05,528
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1196
01:12:07,426 --> 01:12:14,433
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1197
01:12:15,986 --> 01:12:22,338
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1198
01:12:29,621 --> 01:12:32,278
♪
1199
01:12:44,705 --> 01:12:49,261
♪ I'm just a ghost
I'm on your street ♪
1200
01:12:49,295 --> 01:12:53,369
♪ Waitin', when you
Comin' home ♪
1201
01:12:53,403 --> 01:12:57,614
♪ I'm just a ghost
I'm on your street ♪
1202
01:12:57,649 --> 01:13:02,067
♪ Waitin', when you
Comin' home ♪
1203
01:13:02,101 --> 01:13:05,277
♪ Gone so long
1204
01:13:10,282 --> 01:13:15,667
♪ Where you gone?
1205
01:13:17,047 --> 01:13:22,777
♪ On a long slow goodbye
1206
01:13:32,856 --> 01:13:35,411
♪
1207
01:13:39,449 --> 01:13:44,281
♪ I close my eyes
I just can't sleep... ♪
1208
01:13:44,316 --> 01:13:47,319
[Sean] This is my fuckin'
radical desert shower.
1209
01:13:47,353 --> 01:13:51,047
Boom! Check out
the fucking sweet mosaic.
We did this.
1210
01:13:51,081 --> 01:13:54,430
Sweet, don't it look rad?
1211
01:13:54,464 --> 01:13:56,742
Now they can't tear the house
down dude.
1212
01:13:56,777 --> 01:14:01,195
If we had some art thing
happening, we'll be like
"Whoa! That's a landmark."
1213
01:14:22,699 --> 01:14:24,598
Ginger, can I get a light?
1214
01:14:29,223 --> 01:14:30,189
The legacy of it.
1215
01:14:30,224 --> 01:14:32,468
-Is it too perfect?
-Yeah.
1216
01:14:34,055 --> 01:14:34,953
Preserving it--
1217
01:14:34,987 --> 01:14:36,092
Ow!
1218
01:14:36,126 --> 01:14:39,302
[laughing]
1219
01:14:42,132 --> 01:14:44,410
♪
1220
01:14:56,215 --> 01:15:00,634
[crowd cheering]
1221
01:15:01,289 --> 01:15:02,670
Good night everybody.
1222
01:15:03,429 --> 01:15:04,879
Thank you so much.
1223
01:15:05,431 --> 01:15:09,435
[cheering and applause]
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