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If we were
to come in and dig again,
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would we get any response?
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Where you dig
makes a difference.
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It's got a dead battery.
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What the actual hell is this?
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- You got to get those people out of there.
- Okay.
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There was a spike at 3400.
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Everybody out of here, now.
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Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
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I'm not broadcasting.
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That's a communication
signal or something.
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This is out of the
carriage house.
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What the hell is that?
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You captured a UAP on camera.
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There is
a ranch in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that
have proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years, the
federal government
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tried to find
answers and failed.
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Now a new team of
dedicated scientists,
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researchers and
experts has taken over.
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They are determined to
solve the mystery and reveal...
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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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How's it going, Chris?
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- Hey, Kaleb. How's it going?
- Good, good.
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To help us with
our ongoing investigation
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of Skinwalker Ranch,
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we've been trying to engage
as many people as possible
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who took part in the
previous operations
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over the last two decades.
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What's it like coming back?
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It's pretty surreal,
actually, you know.
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It's kind of like being back
home a little bit, you know.
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Chris Bartel
is a former military officer
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who was contracted
by Robert Bigelow
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and the Defense
Intelligence Agency
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when they were
investigating Skinwalker Ranch
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several years ago.
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We used to have trouble
getting guys like him
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to share anything about
what they've seen out here.
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Well, it's an "it"
that's in control.
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But after last week's visit
by another former Bigelow employee,
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Colonel John Alexander,
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and the federal
government's report last year
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acknowledging the
existence of UAPs,
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it's like the floodgates
have finally opened up.
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I know, a couple years ago, I
was worried about, you know,
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maybe possibly losing
a clearance talking about
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some of the experiences
I had here on the property.
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Losing a clearance as far as?
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- Like a security clearance?
- Right, it was a concern
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'cause, you know,
I'm still active
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in the federal department,
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I'm still operating and, uh,
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now it's more of a
mainstream topic, it seems like.
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I was a BAASS
Security Investigator
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for Bigelow Aerospace
for Skinwalker Ranch
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from the years 2010 to 2016.
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BAASS stands for
Bigelow Aerospace
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Advanced Space Studies.
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It was the organization
to study UFO phenomena.
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This is also during the time of
the federal contract, AAWSAP.
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AAWSAP stands for
Advanced Aerospace
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Weapon Systems
Applications Program.
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I was one of the lead
members out here.
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I spent lots of time
exploring, documenting data
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and also safekeeping
and protecting the property.
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I have a lot of
experiences out here.
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You know, I lived and breathed
this property for six years.
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I would love to show you guys
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some of the things
that I went through
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and important
aspects of the property.
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Well, I'm eager to do that.
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I think we throw you
in the UTV right here,
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and let's start across,
because I-I want to hear
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- everything that happened.
- That sounds, that sounds good.
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- Okay.
- I appreciate it.
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We have this 20-year gap
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where Mr. Bigelow
owned the ranch
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for which we know very little.
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I think somebody that
spent six years here,
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and spent a lot of time
during that six years,
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is critical and could be
crucial to helping us solve
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some of the mysteries
that are here on the ranch.
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Yeah. Right here.
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This is the spot.
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Let's park here, then.
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I find it interesting that
you, uh, stop us here.
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This is by a place
we call the triangle.
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Been a place we've
done a lot of experiments
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and research and had
a lot of interesting data.
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So, I'm curious, tell me about
what you experienced here.
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So, October of 2010, we
had a pretty good routine
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where one guy
would do a normal run
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through the property to get
kind of eyes on what's going on.
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That day, the other
officer came back,
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and he was like, "Hey,
I found some big prints
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on top of the mesa."
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And I'm like, "Okay, let's
go take a look at them."
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We get to the top of
here, and we find these gi...
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These pretty
good-sized canine prints.
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I have photos of those,
if you'd like to see them.
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- Yeah, I'd love to see those.
- Sure.
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Here. Take a look at
this. You can see here...
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Look at those, look
how deep those go down.
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- Look at that.
- Oh, my gosh.
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So, that's about three
feet between step?
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Mm-hmm.
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And then, we had a
couple labs with us.
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You can see here in the
top corner, the labs' prints.
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That thing's like
four times the size of those.
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That's a very big canine.
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Seeing this picture,
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you could tell by both
the size and the stride
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that we're talking about
a very large animal.
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It makes me think about
the legend of the skinwalker.
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The legend of the skinwalker is
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that it's an entity
that can shape-shift.
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Often, the lore is having
it go from a wolf to a man.
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For whatever reason,
this piece of ground
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was cursed with the skinwalker.
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I was here, the other
officer was right there,
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and the dogs were
kind of in between us.
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And the other officer says,
"Chris, stop. I hear something."
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And I'll-I'll never forget this,
because it has been replaying
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in my mind forever
since this day.
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Out of that ditch,
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I hear a God-awful,
guttural, howl growl.
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And I was, like,
frozen for a second.
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So was the other officer
and the dogs were all alerting.
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The animal jumps
out of the ravine
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over the berm and travels west.
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This thing was probably
the size of a donkey, black.
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Instinctively, the
dogs chase after it.
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I run after the dogs.
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We get around that corner there.
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It's-it's gone.
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Wow.
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I can understand why
Chris was hesitant to share
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some of these stories.
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If I had heard this on
day one of the ranch,
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I would have dismissed Chris.
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But after spending five
years here on the ranch, uh...
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I-I find myself
believing his story.
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Did you come back and look
for tracks the next day, I imagine?
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The next day we came back.
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We followed the ditch.
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We really didn't
find any tracks.
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But there was an area I
found on this mesa slope,
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and it led to this open cavity.
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Uh, it looked like a cave.
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So, I jumped down into it.
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I look around, and it's a,
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uh, a decent-size open cavity,
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but inside the
cavern, I pulled out
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two old canine traps.
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So, anytime somebody
says the word "cave"
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or "cavern" here,
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- it catches our attention.
- Right.
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- You think it's still there?
- Yeah.
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- You mind taking us there to it?
- Absolutely, let's go.
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All right.
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I find it
interesting that this DJ said
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they were picking up
some kind of weird signal.
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Yeah, that's the part
that got my attention.
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You know, normally when
you think about a radio station,
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you think of them broadcasting
but not receiving anything,
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so I'm surprised
that they're vigilant
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to any incoming signals.
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Well, I can't wait to
hear what they say.
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Ranch caretakers Tom
Lewis and Kandus Linde
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let me and Erik know that
a local radio station nearby
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reached out to them about
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a really strange
frequency interference
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that's been jamming
their system and it sounds
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just like what we experienced
last week on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Hey! hey, hey,
hey, hey, it's here.
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We've got that 1.6 thing.
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During a lot of the
experiments we've done
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to stimulate different
phenomena, including UAPs,
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Erik has detected a huge
radio frequency energy spike
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of 1.6 gigahertz on
the spectrum analyzer.
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And last week, we detected
it after launching a rocket
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out by Homestead Two.
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1.60000.
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But this time a mysterious
sound came through with it.
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- You want to try and listen to it?
- Yeah.
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I swear that sounds like
a communication signal.
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So, here we are.
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So, when we heard that
a potentially similar signal
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was occurring at a radio station
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ten miles away in Roosevelt,
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we definitely wanted to
meet with the station manager
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and DJ, Jenn Rook.
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- Hi!
- Hey, I'm Travis.
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- Hi, I'm Jenn.
- Nice to meet you, Jenn.
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You, too.
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We wanted to see
if it could be related
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to the strange
communication signal
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we've detected on
Skinwalker Ranch.
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So, we hear you've been
having some weird signals
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or interference with
your radio station.
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Some interference for sure
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and just some other weird
anomalies that happen.
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You're talking about
interferences, is it keeping you
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from being able to operate
at certain times, or...?
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- I livestream online, and it keeps it from operating.
- Really?
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Like, the online stream
was just absolute fuzz.
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It was just cutting
out everything.
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It was just such
an interruption.
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- You couldn't hear the radio station online.
- Wow.
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So, if I was listening
to your station,
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and I hear, uh, some
kind of a problem,
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- Mm-hmm.
- I would expect to hear what?
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Static? Strange tones?
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Signals that don't belong
in your signal stream?
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What would I hear?
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Uh, I mean, you could
probably hear any of that.
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- Wow.
- You know, we've heard some weird stuff,
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and we see weird
signals at the ranch
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that we can't figure out
where they're coming from,
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and we've found this one
that seems to be repeating
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around here all the
time, near 1.6 gigahertz.
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Travis, can you bring
that up and play it?
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Yeah. I believe it's
this one right here.
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Mm-hmm.
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You know, I've heard
something similar to this
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along with all of
the fuzz that I get
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that I know is interference.
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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There's something not right,
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and I've had people
look at it and try to fix it,
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- but it's a signal that is not supposed to be there.
- Wow.
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After we verified
that Jenn believed that
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the 1.6 gigahertz communication
signal from the ranch
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was very similar to the one
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that's been coming
through the radio station,
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it made both Erik
and I think that
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maybe we could use it to
try to communicate back
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to whoever sent
it in the first place.
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Uh, we couldn't, by any chance,
talk you into maybe broadcasting
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this strange signal
that we've picked up?
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- Uh...
- And see if we'll detect something
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with our instruments
when you do.
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Are we poking a
bear here, or...?
249
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Well-well,
the expression that I use is
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one my grandmother taught me
and it's "poking the hornets' nest."
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- And-and so...
- Okay, let's do it. Let's poke that hornets' nest.
252
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Let's see if any
hornets fly out, right?
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All right, let's do it.
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So, we have some
equipment outside, in the car,
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we'll run out, give
us we'll get it set up,
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- and running.
- Okay. Yeah, let's do it.
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So we'll got set
up the equipment.
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I'll be right back and tell
you when we're ready.
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- All right, sounds good.
- All right. Thank you.
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After Jenn Rook,
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the station manager at Jack FM,
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told us that the 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal
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that we've detected
on Skinwalker Ranch
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sounded similar to
what's been interfering
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with her station's broadcasts,
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we convinced her to
let us run an experiment.
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I'm going to go ahead
and start the Jeep
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- and tune in to the radio station.
- Perfect.
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The idea was to
play the 1.6 gigahertz signal
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over her airwaves...
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All right. I got the
radio station up.
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While Erik and I
set up an antenna
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with our spectrum
analyzer in the parking lot
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so we could monitor
the broadcast
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for anything strange that
might happen in response.
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All right, I think
that's good right there.
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All right.
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I'm interested in
watching the RF spectrum
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through our spectrum analyzer.
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I got really high hopes
that we're going to see
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something unusual.
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So, I'm-a go in and
tell her we're ready.
283
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All right.
284
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Hey, Jenn. Yeah, we've
got our equipment set up
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in the parking lot, so
whenever you're okay
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to broadcast the
signal, we're watching.
287
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- All right. Ready.
- All right. Cool. Thanks.
288
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All right, Erik. She's
about to broadcast it.
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- All right.
- Hey there, everybody.
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Just a little interruption
in the music right now.
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We're doing a few
tests here at the studios,
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and, uh, you know what?
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I'm going to play
something here.
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And if you've heard this,
you can always give me a call
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here at the studios
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and let me know.
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This is just a test, everybody.
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There it is.
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Wow. It really changed
the waveform big time.
300
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Look at how the waveforms
are reacting to it there.
301
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You see that? Watch right here.
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When a FM radio station
broadcasts music or anything
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over the airwaves, the
frequency always has
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a constant and uniform pattern.
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You shouldn't see
any deviation in it
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no matter what the sound is.
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But as soon as Jenn started
broadcasting the sound
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from our 1.6 gigahertz signal,
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the station's frequency
began showing strange,
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sporadic spikes.
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Now, that shouldn't be possible.
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So, it really made us wonder
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if our experiment
might stimulate
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something strange out
here in the Basin community.
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And, if so, would it be anything
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like the phenomena we've
seen on Skinwalker Ranch?
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This has just been
a test, everybody.
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Thanks for listening. I'll put
you back to the music now.
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I'm Jenn Rook.
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All right, well, I say we
go tell her what we saw.
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00:13:44,750 --> 00:13:46,042
Yeah. Let's go follow up.
322
00:13:47,207 --> 00:13:49,308
I wonder what the locals
thought that was listening to
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- the radio station.
- Oh, my gosh.
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00:13:51,875 --> 00:13:53,375
Wow.
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That was pretty cool.
Thank you for that.
326
00:13:55,917 --> 00:13:58,750
Yeah, we, uh, were
watching the spectrum
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all around your signal and
when you were broadcasting,
328
00:14:02,792 --> 00:14:06,457
the, uh, the waveform
actually changed.
329
00:14:06,582 --> 00:14:09,000
Normally it has a certain shape,
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- Mm-hmm.
- And when you started that signal,
331
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it changed to something
completely different.
332
00:14:15,125 --> 00:14:17,000
- Hmm.
- It was really odd.
333
00:14:17,125 --> 00:14:19,792
Now, the interesting
question is...
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00:14:19,917 --> 00:14:22,332
- if there's any kind of response...
- Oh, yeah.
335
00:14:22,417 --> 00:14:25,582
What form will it take and
how will we find out about it?
336
00:14:25,707 --> 00:14:26,850
Yeah, if anybody
calls you and says,
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00:14:26,875 --> 00:14:28,250
"Hey, what was
that weird thing?"
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00:14:28,375 --> 00:14:29,808
Or "I had a headache
when that was going,"
339
00:14:29,832 --> 00:14:31,500
- you know, or whatever.
- Yeah.
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00:14:31,582 --> 00:14:32,975
- Okay.
- Especially if someone happens to see
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00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,207
a UFO or UAP, or
something strange
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00:14:35,332 --> 00:14:38,125
in the sky, anything at
all, please let us know.
343
00:14:38,207 --> 00:14:41,332
- Okay.
- You may be able to provide some information
344
00:14:41,457 --> 00:14:43,292
that's very helpful to
our research going on,
345
00:14:43,375 --> 00:14:45,143
- so thank you for accommodating us today.
- All right.
346
00:14:45,167 --> 00:14:47,167
- Oh, yeah, anytime.
- It was great to meet you.
347
00:14:47,292 --> 00:14:48,851
- You, too.
- Yeah. Thank you very much.
348
00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:50,500
Thanks, guys.
349
00:14:53,375 --> 00:14:56,957
So, it's gonna be
in this little area right here,
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where I was walking down
from the top of the mesa
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and I found a cave.
352
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,375
Over the years that
I have been here on the ranch,
353
00:15:04,542 --> 00:15:08,125
there's been rampant rumors
about underground bases,
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00:15:08,207 --> 00:15:10,917
of tunnels, all kinds
of underground things
355
00:15:11,042 --> 00:15:12,332
here at the ranch.
356
00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:15,042
If there are some, we
definitely want to find them.
357
00:15:15,167 --> 00:15:17,832
I just happened to
notice it from on top.
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00:15:17,957 --> 00:15:20,125
Then I-I suggest maybe
we just all climb up there
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00:15:20,207 --> 00:15:21,683
- and see if we can find it.
- Yeah.
360
00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,167
Hey, I found what
looks like to be a cavern.
361
00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:40,667
Let me take a look.
362
00:15:43,832 --> 00:15:46,082
Oh, yeah.
363
00:15:46,207 --> 00:15:49,000
I'm pretty sure this is
it, or it-it looks like it.
364
00:15:50,375 --> 00:15:52,957
You can tell that
at one time it was a lot larger.
365
00:15:53,042 --> 00:15:55,332
And it's collapsed
down in on itself.
366
00:15:55,417 --> 00:15:56,937
You can tell
that this whole area
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00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,375
looks like a sunken-in area.
368
00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:00,582
- Like it caved in. Yeah.
- Yeah.
369
00:16:00,707 --> 00:16:03,207
It's so strange.
370
00:16:03,375 --> 00:16:07,125
If this is the opening
to that cave that Chris found,
371
00:16:07,207 --> 00:16:09,875
did it collapse?
Is it still there?
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00:16:10,042 --> 00:16:13,000
Does it continue back, and
it's just covered by rocks?
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00:16:13,125 --> 00:16:15,000
Definitely a lot of
unanswered questions.
374
00:16:15,125 --> 00:16:16,845
There's been one
consistent thing I've heard
375
00:16:16,875 --> 00:16:19,018
since I've been here on the
ranch for the last five years
376
00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:21,542
and that's there is
a system of tunnels
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00:16:21,707 --> 00:16:22,957
that goes throughout the ranch.
378
00:16:23,042 --> 00:16:26,207
We've got reports of
UFO flying into the mesa,
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00:16:26,332 --> 00:16:27,683
that we have
people that think that
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00:16:27,707 --> 00:16:29,167
there's underground bases here.
381
00:16:29,250 --> 00:16:31,000
We've yet to find it. Who knows?
382
00:16:31,082 --> 00:16:33,917
Maybe this is the entrance
or maybe this is a way in,
383
00:16:34,042 --> 00:16:35,707
and, uh, I'm all
for figuring out
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00:16:35,875 --> 00:16:37,542
a safe way to explore this more.
385
00:16:37,667 --> 00:16:40,750
Well, I'm ready to head
down if you guys are.
386
00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:43,274
- I appreciate you showing us, Chris.
- Hey, no problem, man.
387
00:16:45,582 --> 00:16:47,500
There's multiple
layers to this property.
388
00:16:47,625 --> 00:16:50,832
I think what's going on here
is bigger than any of us here.
389
00:16:50,957 --> 00:16:53,167
It's bigger than a
science experiment.
390
00:16:53,292 --> 00:16:55,167
It's bigger than a
government contract.
391
00:16:55,292 --> 00:16:57,167
It's bigger than all of us.
392
00:16:57,292 --> 00:17:00,042
How else can I explain
some of this stuff
393
00:17:00,167 --> 00:17:01,457
throughout all those years?
394
00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:03,667
Okay, we got our GPS data.
395
00:17:03,832 --> 00:17:05,500
We know where it's at.
396
00:17:05,583 --> 00:17:07,208
Let's get out of here.
397
00:17:16,875 --> 00:17:18,500
Hey, there's Jim.
398
00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:21,351
- Hello, guys.
- ERIK and TRAVIS: Hey, Jim.
399
00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:23,290
- What's going on?
- Good to see you.
400
00:17:23,375 --> 00:17:26,000
The day after Erik and I
conducted our experiment
401
00:17:26,125 --> 00:17:29,000
at Jack FM, ranch
manager Jim Morse
402
00:17:29,125 --> 00:17:31,583
showed up to share
something pretty crazy with us.
403
00:17:31,708 --> 00:17:33,958
Been doing a little outreach.
404
00:17:34,083 --> 00:17:36,458
I had a guy that, uh,
sent me some videos.
405
00:17:36,583 --> 00:17:38,583
- This is local?
- This is local.
406
00:17:38,708 --> 00:17:41,208
- Oh.
- Yeah, so, maybe I can show you these,
407
00:17:41,375 --> 00:17:43,166
and you can make
heads or tails out of them.
408
00:17:43,291 --> 00:17:45,291
What are we looking at here?
409
00:17:45,416 --> 00:17:47,336
- I guess it's these lights right here.
- Mm-hmm.
410
00:17:50,166 --> 00:17:52,000
Where did this come from?
411
00:17:52,125 --> 00:17:53,541
Is this from the
community nearby?
412
00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:55,433
Yeah, this is from the
community out here in the basin.
413
00:17:55,458 --> 00:17:56,833
- Uh-huh.
- Um...
414
00:17:56,958 --> 00:17:59,666
I mean, there was
people from Moon Lake,
415
00:17:59,750 --> 00:18:01,833
- miles away, that saw the lights.
- Really?
416
00:18:01,958 --> 00:18:03,666
Well, you know, looking at that,
417
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,125
first I thought it was stars,
418
00:18:05,208 --> 00:18:06,807
- but look, look, they're moving.
- Yeah.
419
00:18:09,458 --> 00:18:10,916
Look at that.
420
00:18:11,041 --> 00:18:12,458
Wow.
421
00:18:15,125 --> 00:18:16,958
Jim, when was this video taken?
422
00:18:17,083 --> 00:18:19,250
Last night, about 8:00 p.m.
423
00:18:19,375 --> 00:18:20,808
Really? That's just a few hours
424
00:18:20,833 --> 00:18:22,018
after we played that
sound on the radio, Erik.
425
00:18:22,041 --> 00:18:23,166
No kidding.
426
00:18:23,291 --> 00:18:24,666
It definitely stirred up
427
00:18:24,833 --> 00:18:26,333
a lot of interest out here.
428
00:18:26,458 --> 00:18:27,476
Look, and in the
next video, they're in
429
00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:28,916
completely different kind of...
430
00:18:29,041 --> 00:18:30,481
- They've moved a bunch.
- Yeah.
431
00:18:30,541 --> 00:18:31,916
And there's a bunch.
432
00:18:32,041 --> 00:18:33,458
There's, like, four
or five of them.
433
00:18:36,333 --> 00:18:38,018
- Wow.
- Well, that is interesting.
434
00:18:38,041 --> 00:18:39,322
It's like some kind of formation
435
00:18:39,375 --> 00:18:40,808
of the lights, they're
doing something.
436
00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:43,000
Now, if we actually stimulated
437
00:18:43,166 --> 00:18:45,375
these UAP to appear
by broadcasting
438
00:18:45,500 --> 00:18:47,416
the sound from our
1.6 gigahertz signal
439
00:18:47,541 --> 00:18:50,500
out to Roosevelt,
that's incredible.
440
00:18:50,583 --> 00:18:52,768
They definitely didn't look
like any conventional aircraft
441
00:18:52,791 --> 00:18:54,166
I've ever seen.
442
00:18:54,250 --> 00:18:55,875
- It looks like five lights.
- Mm-hmm.
443
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,833
What on earth?
444
00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,666
They're clearly moving.
445
00:18:59,791 --> 00:19:01,166
They're flying,
446
00:19:01,333 --> 00:19:03,143
and I don't see any
airplane navigation lights.
447
00:19:03,166 --> 00:19:04,791
No, I didn't
either. I didn't either.
448
00:19:04,916 --> 00:19:06,393
- I couldn't see a single blink.
- Yeah.
449
00:19:06,416 --> 00:19:08,017
- I don't know what that is.
- Yeah.
450
00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:10,250
I got to tell you,
though, it's intriguing.
451
00:19:10,375 --> 00:19:12,183
Yeah, I-I want to pick
this apart frame by frame.
452
00:19:12,208 --> 00:19:14,708
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Let me take a look at this.
453
00:19:14,875 --> 00:19:17,000
I've never seen a pattern
454
00:19:17,083 --> 00:19:19,875
of this many mysterious
lights in the sky,
455
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,250
after any of our activities.
456
00:19:21,375 --> 00:19:22,291
- You know, usually we see one.
- One.
457
00:19:22,375 --> 00:19:24,541
Maybe two. But that's pretty...
458
00:19:24,666 --> 00:19:26,393
That's pretty exciting. I
don't know what that means.
459
00:19:26,416 --> 00:19:28,958
Yeah. That's
more than a coincidence.
460
00:19:29,041 --> 00:19:31,041
Seeing these
videos was incredible,
461
00:19:31,208 --> 00:19:33,416
because it wasn't
just multiple UAPs
462
00:19:33,541 --> 00:19:35,375
that appeared at the same time.
463
00:19:35,500 --> 00:19:37,333
They also seemed
to be maneuvering
464
00:19:37,458 --> 00:19:39,166
in a coordinated formation.
465
00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:40,666
There it is.
466
00:19:40,833 --> 00:19:42,666
Wow.
467
00:19:42,750 --> 00:19:44,726
When we broadcasted our
signal at the radio station,
468
00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:47,583
we could see a very
definite frequency register
469
00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:50,875
on the spectrum analyzer, as
if something was responding.
470
00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000
What I want to
know is if these UAP
471
00:19:54,125 --> 00:19:56,416
were also stimulated
by our experiment.
472
00:19:56,541 --> 00:19:58,833
Clearly, we now
have an investigation
473
00:19:58,958 --> 00:20:01,541
that goes beyond the
boundaries of Skinwalker Ranch.
474
00:20:02,458 --> 00:20:04,125
Well, if you get
any stuff like this,
475
00:20:04,250 --> 00:20:05,933
- absolutely let us see it.
- Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
476
00:20:05,958 --> 00:20:07,143
Especially, you know,
getting the date and the time
477
00:20:07,166 --> 00:20:08,875
with it also, that's great.
478
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,583
You guys really stirred
the old, uh, hornets' nest up.
479
00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:13,000
Yeah.
480
00:20:13,083 --> 00:20:14,958
Okay, well, if I can borrow this
481
00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:16,101
- long enough to get the video off...
- Yep, absolutely.
482
00:20:16,125 --> 00:20:17,625
Absolutely.
483
00:20:17,708 --> 00:20:19,458
And I'm gonna tear it
apart frame by frame.
484
00:20:19,541 --> 00:20:21,458
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
485
00:20:21,541 --> 00:20:22,333
- I'll get back to the neighbor, okay.
- All right.
486
00:20:22,416 --> 00:20:23,696
- Thanks a lot.
- Thanks so much.
487
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:25,226
- I'll get this back to you soon.
- Thank you.
488
00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:26,569
- See you later, Jim.
- Thank you.
489
00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:38,833
All right.
490
00:20:40,208 --> 00:20:42,833
- Well...
- Yup.
491
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,791
This is the area
we're looking at.
492
00:20:44,875 --> 00:20:47,333
After our
meeting with Chris Bartel,
493
00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,166
we brought Jake Huffman out,
494
00:20:49,333 --> 00:20:52,250
who has spent his career
building oil well sites
495
00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:55,208
and as part of that, uh,
has used a lot of explosives
496
00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:57,041
and done a lot of blasting.
497
00:20:57,166 --> 00:20:59,458
We wanted to get
his eyes on the mesa
498
00:20:59,541 --> 00:21:01,666
and see if he could tell if
this was a natural cave-in
499
00:21:01,750 --> 00:21:04,333
or a purposeful one,
and what the best method
500
00:21:04,458 --> 00:21:06,583
for getting into
the mesa would be.
501
00:21:06,708 --> 00:21:09,625
Well, about a quarter of
the way down from the top,
502
00:21:09,708 --> 00:21:14,458
there's an opening where
that little clay slough-off is.
503
00:21:14,541 --> 00:21:17,166
We had a former
guard from Bigelow's era
504
00:21:17,291 --> 00:21:18,958
that told us about
this large opening
505
00:21:19,041 --> 00:21:21,583
he'd climbed down in, there
were some traps and stuff,
506
00:21:21,708 --> 00:21:23,666
but it appeared like
it had collapsed in.
507
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:25,500
And the whole time
we've been here,
508
00:21:25,583 --> 00:21:28,291
we've heard reports
of these large tunnels
509
00:21:28,416 --> 00:21:31,166
that people can walk
clear, clear back in.
510
00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:32,625
- Really?
- Uh-huh.
511
00:21:32,708 --> 00:21:34,587
Some underground bases
and, I mean, you name it.
512
00:21:34,666 --> 00:21:36,106
We've heard all
kinds of crazy things
513
00:21:36,208 --> 00:21:37,291
about this hill.
514
00:21:37,375 --> 00:21:38,833
And we've searched and searched
515
00:21:38,916 --> 00:21:41,875
and haven't found
anything that resembles that
516
00:21:42,041 --> 00:21:44,333
until we got to this spot,
517
00:21:44,458 --> 00:21:46,666
and it does appear like
there could have been
518
00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:49,666
a large opening that
went back and it caved in.
519
00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:53,333
I'd like to take a closer look,
520
00:21:53,416 --> 00:21:55,375
see if maybe we
can see some signs
521
00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,541
- of any drilling activity.
- Okay.
522
00:21:58,666 --> 00:22:00,000
Go ahead.
523
00:22:00,083 --> 00:22:02,958
We're just gonna go
right up here to the base.
524
00:22:06,666 --> 00:22:09,166
Looking at it, do
you see anything
525
00:22:09,291 --> 00:22:10,500
that would indicate to you
526
00:22:10,625 --> 00:22:13,958
that this was
collapsed on purpose?
527
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,541
Actually, yeah.
528
00:22:17,666 --> 00:22:19,833
Usually, if you have a slough,
529
00:22:19,958 --> 00:22:22,958
then you're gonna have
material that's built up somewhere,
530
00:22:23,083 --> 00:22:26,541
you know, and I'm not
seeing anywhere where...
531
00:22:26,666 --> 00:22:29,375
softer material or
mud or anything
532
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:31,708
- pushed out from underneath it.
- That was pushed out?
533
00:22:33,041 --> 00:22:34,333
That's a good point.
534
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,958
- Hmm.
- That tells me
535
00:22:37,041 --> 00:22:38,958
this was done for a purpose.
536
00:22:41,541 --> 00:22:44,041
I don't know what
that purpose would be.
537
00:22:44,166 --> 00:22:46,333
I can't see the
rock having a value
538
00:22:46,458 --> 00:22:48,416
as landscaping rocks, or...
539
00:22:49,625 --> 00:22:53,375
I believe at some point
there was blasting done,
540
00:22:53,541 --> 00:22:58,833
and perhaps that was
done to hide something.
541
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:03,541
Jake suggests that
blasting has occurred in this area,
542
00:23:03,666 --> 00:23:07,541
that perhaps the face of this
mesa has been collapsed in,
543
00:23:07,666 --> 00:23:10,500
and if so, it makes me wonder,
why did they collapse it in?
544
00:23:10,583 --> 00:23:12,291
Was it for safety,
to keep people out
545
00:23:12,416 --> 00:23:15,625
of these, uh, tunnels or
mines, or whatever they were,
546
00:23:15,708 --> 00:23:17,833
or were they trying
to hide something?
547
00:23:17,958 --> 00:23:19,308
We got to talk to Erik
and Travis about all this
548
00:23:19,333 --> 00:23:21,500
and see what they think.
549
00:23:21,666 --> 00:23:24,125
We definitely
need to investigate it a lot more.
550
00:23:24,208 --> 00:23:25,291
- Yep.
- So...
551
00:23:25,416 --> 00:23:27,125
We appreciate your expertise.
552
00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:28,351
I can only imagine we'll
have you back out here again.
553
00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:29,750
Whatever I can do to help.
554
00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:31,750
- Okay.
- Okay. We appreciate it. Thank you.
555
00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:43,291
We had an
interesting visit with Chris Bartel.
556
00:23:43,416 --> 00:23:44,683
Chris shared some
experiences that he had
557
00:23:44,708 --> 00:23:46,333
while he was here on the ranch.
558
00:23:46,458 --> 00:23:48,833
One of them, he was
going across the mesa.
559
00:23:48,958 --> 00:23:52,916
He was following some
very, very large tracks.
560
00:23:53,041 --> 00:23:56,333
The stride of this
animal is like three feet.
561
00:23:56,416 --> 00:23:57,583
That's a big animal.
562
00:23:57,708 --> 00:23:59,333
He used the term canine,
563
00:23:59,416 --> 00:24:01,750
but those tracks looked
like a very large wolf.
564
00:24:01,875 --> 00:24:06,000
And as he came down,
he found this cavern.
565
00:24:06,166 --> 00:24:09,416
It was pretty large, and
there were large traps
566
00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:11,458
that had been set
down inside of this.
567
00:24:12,833 --> 00:24:15,625
The interesting thing was, is
that when you look down in it,
568
00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:18,875
you can tell that the
rocks have collapsed down.
569
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:20,433
Wait, wait, so you've
actually seen it?
570
00:24:20,458 --> 00:24:22,666
Yes, and I have a
solid GPS coordinate
571
00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:25,333
for the actual opening.
572
00:24:25,458 --> 00:24:26,817
So, if you provide
the coordinates,
573
00:24:26,875 --> 00:24:29,000
I can actually bring
it up on the screen.
574
00:24:29,083 --> 00:24:31,666
Ever since I joined
the team two years ago,
575
00:24:31,833 --> 00:24:34,458
I've wanted to investigate
the stories about caves
576
00:24:34,583 --> 00:24:36,250
and supposed
underground caverns,
577
00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:38,416
but we just couldn't find any.
578
00:24:38,541 --> 00:24:39,726
- I say we pull this up on the screen and look at it.
- Yeah.
579
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:41,833
Yeah, let's do that.
580
00:24:41,916 --> 00:24:44,833
So, when Thomas said that
former Bigelow team member
581
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:49,208
Chris Bartel showed them where
one was possibly covered over,
582
00:24:49,333 --> 00:24:51,666
I couldn't wait to learn more.
583
00:24:51,791 --> 00:24:54,333
It's about three-quarters
of the way up the mesa,
584
00:24:54,416 --> 00:24:56,541
and it looks like
585
00:24:56,666 --> 00:24:59,000
there potentially could have
been a much larger cavern
586
00:24:59,166 --> 00:25:02,666
that the whole thing has just
kind of sunk in and collapsed.
587
00:25:02,791 --> 00:25:05,041
Is this close to where
we're starting to see
588
00:25:05,166 --> 00:25:08,666
some of the GPS anomalies
where they vanished into the mesa?
589
00:25:08,791 --> 00:25:11,500
Now, that is a great question.
590
00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:14,333
Actually, it's the opposite.
591
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,500
In some of our exercises,
592
00:25:16,666 --> 00:25:18,375
we've seen things seem to emerge
593
00:25:18,541 --> 00:25:21,083
from about that
part of the mesa.
594
00:25:21,208 --> 00:25:22,666
- Hmm.
- Really?
595
00:25:25,250 --> 00:25:27,500
- Package away.
- Earlier this summer,
596
00:25:27,625 --> 00:25:30,166
we conducted two
different aerial experiments
597
00:25:30,291 --> 00:25:32,833
over the triangle area,
using GPS sensors...
598
00:25:32,916 --> 00:25:34,500
I'm getting something, yeah.
599
00:25:34,625 --> 00:25:36,500
Trying to pinpoint the location
600
00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:38,333
where we keep detecting
high-energy spikes
601
00:25:38,416 --> 00:25:40,291
about a mile above the ranch.
602
00:25:40,375 --> 00:25:42,833
These blue cubes represent
603
00:25:42,916 --> 00:25:45,708
the position of
the GPS payloads.
604
00:25:45,875 --> 00:25:48,291
It looks like you
smashed into the mesa.
605
00:25:48,416 --> 00:25:50,875
You popped out on
this side right there.
606
00:25:51,041 --> 00:25:54,500
But in both cases,
the GPS data we collected
607
00:25:54,583 --> 00:25:57,291
inexplicably showed
that our aircrafts
608
00:25:57,375 --> 00:25:58,958
flew down below the mesa.
609
00:25:59,083 --> 00:26:00,458
Look at that.
610
00:26:00,541 --> 00:26:02,750
That's about that
location right there.
611
00:26:02,875 --> 00:26:06,125
And now it looks like
the exit point corresponds
612
00:26:06,250 --> 00:26:08,416
with this spot where
Chris Bartel says
613
00:26:08,541 --> 00:26:10,000
a cave entrance used to exist.
614
00:26:10,083 --> 00:26:12,000
I don't know yet,
615
00:26:12,125 --> 00:26:13,875
but maybe that's where
616
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,375
our answers about the
triangle area are hidden.
617
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:19,500
After seeing this, we
brought Jake out here
618
00:26:19,583 --> 00:26:21,708
and had him look at it.
619
00:26:21,833 --> 00:26:25,083
He had a feeling
that it looked like
620
00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:27,541
there had been some
demolition work there.
621
00:26:27,666 --> 00:26:30,666
Did Bigelow's team
discover something
622
00:26:30,791 --> 00:26:32,833
that we have yet to discover?
623
00:26:32,958 --> 00:26:34,666
If there really is a cave there
624
00:26:34,791 --> 00:26:36,750
and it was covered up,
625
00:26:36,875 --> 00:26:38,375
that had to be done
626
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:39,976
during Bigelow's
ownership of the ranch,
627
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,916
since he's the one that
Brandon bought it from.
628
00:26:42,041 --> 00:26:44,791
So, given that Bigelow
was funded in part
629
00:26:44,875 --> 00:26:47,375
by the federal government
for his research,
630
00:26:47,541 --> 00:26:50,125
what could they have found
that needed to be kept hidden?
631
00:26:50,208 --> 00:26:53,500
It'd be good to get
Pete Kelsey to fly over it
632
00:26:53,625 --> 00:26:55,500
with the infrared camera
633
00:26:55,625 --> 00:26:57,424
and see if there's any
temperature differences
634
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,041
that might suggest
there's an airflow
635
00:26:59,208 --> 00:27:00,500
or a pocket or something.
636
00:27:00,666 --> 00:27:03,541
Absolutely. I-I've
been really impressed
637
00:27:03,708 --> 00:27:05,393
by his work in the past,
and to be able to have him
638
00:27:05,416 --> 00:27:07,125
bring out even more equipment
639
00:27:07,208 --> 00:27:09,750
that's more technologically
advanced would be awesome.
640
00:27:09,875 --> 00:27:11,416
It sounds like we got a plan.
641
00:27:11,541 --> 00:27:12,708
The more detail we can get
642
00:27:12,833 --> 00:27:14,351
about this part of the
property the better.
643
00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:17,083
- We'll get right to it.
- Okay, sounds good.
644
00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:26,000
Right in here somewhere?
645
00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:27,875
Right up on the edge up there.
646
00:27:28,916 --> 00:27:31,083
To help us figure out
647
00:27:31,208 --> 00:27:32,875
if this really is a
covered entrance
648
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000
to something in the mesa,
649
00:27:35,125 --> 00:27:36,833
technologist Pete
Kelsey has brought out
650
00:27:36,958 --> 00:27:39,208
a drone with a
thermal imaging camera
651
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:42,500
that'll be able to identify
any signs of voids
652
00:27:42,625 --> 00:27:44,125
or caverns below the rubble.
653
00:27:44,208 --> 00:27:46,333
This looks great.
654
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,458
- Thank you, sir.
- Uh-huh.
655
00:27:48,583 --> 00:27:51,000
The guys have
asked me to look for caves
656
00:27:51,166 --> 00:27:52,851
here on the property. The
thermal camera could be
657
00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:54,458
a really good fit there,
658
00:27:54,541 --> 00:27:57,791
because typically
caves, tunnels,
659
00:27:57,916 --> 00:28:01,083
the air inside is much
cooler than the air outside.
660
00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:02,833
If it shows cold air,
661
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,833
that could mean
that there's a network.
662
00:28:04,958 --> 00:28:06,833
All right, I got all
green lights here.
663
00:28:06,958 --> 00:28:09,125
Ready when you are.
664
00:28:09,208 --> 00:28:11,875
Where's the hole, Thomas?
665
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,083
It's, uh, basically
right... right up there.
666
00:28:15,208 --> 00:28:18,291
You can only see it
from the top down.
667
00:28:18,375 --> 00:28:19,833
You can't see it looking up.
668
00:28:19,958 --> 00:28:22,041
So, I'm gonna just go
up there so that you have
669
00:28:22,208 --> 00:28:24,226
an easy point of reference
as you're trying to locate
670
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:25,708
where this opening is at.
671
00:28:25,833 --> 00:28:27,226
I think it will be a lot
easier if I'm up there
672
00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:29,500
- standing close to it, so...
- Okay.
673
00:28:29,583 --> 00:28:31,125
Okay, I'm gonna get started.
674
00:28:31,208 --> 00:28:32,916
- Be careful.
- Yup.
675
00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:38,083
In my years on the ranch,
there's been rampant rumors
676
00:28:38,208 --> 00:28:43,000
about underground
tunnels, underground bases,
677
00:28:43,125 --> 00:28:45,666
and really, with the technology
that we're deploying now,
678
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:48,666
the hopes is to either find it
679
00:28:48,791 --> 00:28:50,666
or-or finally put it to
bed once and for all.
680
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,291
- Right here.
- There?
681
00:28:54,416 --> 00:28:57,500
- Yup.
- Spinning up.
682
00:29:03,916 --> 00:29:05,101
So, you're flying
the thermal camera first?
683
00:29:05,125 --> 00:29:06,625
Yeah, so the fancy term is
684
00:29:06,708 --> 00:29:09,166
this is a radiometric
thermal camera,
685
00:29:09,291 --> 00:29:10,933
which means it will
give me the temperature.
686
00:29:10,958 --> 00:29:12,916
But it also can do just video.
687
00:29:13,041 --> 00:29:16,583
- Very cool.
- Heading for Thomas.
688
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:20,791
There he is.
689
00:29:20,875 --> 00:29:22,500
I will zoom in on him a bit.
690
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:27,500
So, the hole must be that
thing right in front of him.
691
00:29:27,583 --> 00:29:28,708
Mm-hmm.
692
00:29:30,375 --> 00:29:34,916
Is that hole really the coldest
thing within the field of view?
693
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:37,708
- Yes. It's black.
- Okay.
694
00:29:37,833 --> 00:29:40,291
It's 64 degrees.
695
00:29:40,375 --> 00:29:42,833
Whereas on the rock
surfaces you are at...
696
00:29:42,958 --> 00:29:45,916
Yeah, out in the sun,
it just went to a 102.
697
00:29:46,041 --> 00:29:48,000
A 40-degree difference?
698
00:29:49,125 --> 00:29:51,041
I'm gonna go ahead and take
699
00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:52,666
one of those smoke
bombs up there.
700
00:29:52,791 --> 00:29:54,183
So you guys keep
an eye out down here
701
00:29:54,208 --> 00:29:55,607
and see if you see
smoke coming out.
702
00:29:55,666 --> 00:29:57,291
That is a great idea.
703
00:29:59,583 --> 00:30:02,166
In addition to
Pete's high-tech drone,
704
00:30:02,250 --> 00:30:04,500
we also brought along
some low-tech smoke bombs,
705
00:30:04,625 --> 00:30:07,541
to look for evidence of
holes or possible entry points.
706
00:30:07,666 --> 00:30:09,916
Once we drop the bombs,
707
00:30:10,041 --> 00:30:12,000
if the smoke starts emitting
back out of the mesa
708
00:30:12,166 --> 00:30:14,058
from different points then
where we dropped them,
709
00:30:14,083 --> 00:30:15,833
it would be a sign
that there really is
710
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,458
a covered-up cave
or tunnel system
711
00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:21,058
- under all these boulders.
- Hey, Travis.
712
00:30:21,083 --> 00:30:22,762
We're ready for you to
pop that smoke bomb.
713
00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:24,625
All right, we're
gonna pop a smoke.
714
00:30:24,708 --> 00:30:26,791
Three...
715
00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:28,958
two, one...
716
00:30:29,041 --> 00:30:31,791
Popping smoke, popping smoke.
717
00:30:34,791 --> 00:30:37,041
- You see any effect?
- No.
718
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,839
There, it's starting to
come out. Look at that.
719
00:30:40,958 --> 00:30:42,791
Blue smoke.
720
00:30:42,875 --> 00:30:45,583
Yeah, so I'm getting
no love on the thermal.
721
00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:48,458
So, I'll switch to RGB.
722
00:30:49,708 --> 00:30:52,166
Oh, it's coming out down here.
723
00:30:52,291 --> 00:30:54,333
Oh, look. Look behind you.
724
00:30:54,458 --> 00:30:55,916
It's coming out everywhere.
725
00:30:56,041 --> 00:30:58,416
Ooh, that makes my day.
726
00:30:58,541 --> 00:31:00,291
Wow, look at that.
727
00:31:00,375 --> 00:31:02,333
Little wasps of it down here.
728
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,625
If there's a connection
between these larger openings,
729
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:07,916
- perhaps that cave we're talking about.
- Yeah.
730
00:31:08,041 --> 00:31:10,041
There was a cave at one time.
731
00:31:10,208 --> 00:31:12,958
Thomas and I have found
a couple of holes up here.
732
00:31:13,041 --> 00:31:16,291
I think we're gonna throw
our smoke grenades in there.
733
00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:18,226
So, keep an eye out,
see if you see it coming out
734
00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:21,125
- anywhere on the mesa.
- Copy that, thanks.
735
00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:23,125
Right here.
736
00:31:29,208 --> 00:31:31,500
Let it get smoking good.
737
00:31:31,583 --> 00:31:34,125
Oh, that's good, orange
smoke, orange smoke.
738
00:31:35,166 --> 00:31:37,666
Oh, I'm gonna step back.
739
00:31:37,791 --> 00:31:40,500
Yeah, definitely, we got smoke.
740
00:31:40,583 --> 00:31:42,000
A little bit.
741
00:31:42,125 --> 00:31:45,000
Yeah.
742
00:31:45,125 --> 00:31:46,893
There should be a
lot more smoke coming out.
743
00:31:46,916 --> 00:31:49,208
Actually, look, look,
it's getting sucked in.
744
00:31:49,333 --> 00:31:52,250
Yeah, the smoke's going down.
745
00:31:52,375 --> 00:31:53,958
Oh, look, it's completely gone.
746
00:31:54,041 --> 00:31:55,481
We should be seeing
smoke everywhere.
747
00:31:55,541 --> 00:31:58,666
- There's no smoke.
- There is nothing here.
748
00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:00,625
No smoke?
749
00:32:00,750 --> 00:32:03,166
I don't see anything.
750
00:32:03,291 --> 00:32:05,166
Where did it go?
751
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:11,333
Where'd the smoke go?
752
00:32:11,416 --> 00:32:12,708
Where'd it go?
753
00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:14,125
Actually, look, look.
754
00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:15,666
It's getting sucked in.
755
00:32:15,791 --> 00:32:18,000
Yeah, the smoke's going down.
756
00:32:18,125 --> 00:32:20,333
The wind's blowing the
smoke down, Dragon.
757
00:32:20,416 --> 00:32:22,666
Really?
758
00:32:22,833 --> 00:32:24,768
When we dropped
smoke bombs down this opening,
759
00:32:24,791 --> 00:32:26,416
the smoke started to come out,
760
00:32:26,541 --> 00:32:28,666
and then it was as if
somebody turned on a vacuum,
761
00:32:28,833 --> 00:32:31,666
and the smoke just disappeared
and sucked down in the hole.
762
00:32:31,791 --> 00:32:33,833
Yeah, something's
sucking the smoke
763
00:32:33,916 --> 00:32:36,000
into the cave or the hole.
764
00:32:36,125 --> 00:32:37,916
Nothing.
765
00:32:38,041 --> 00:32:41,416
There's no smoke at all!
766
00:32:41,541 --> 00:32:43,166
That is really strange.
767
00:32:43,291 --> 00:32:44,666
Yeah, it's inhaling.
768
00:32:44,791 --> 00:32:46,058
Yeah, it's inhaling all right.
769
00:32:46,083 --> 00:32:47,875
So, if that's an
inhale, the question is,
770
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,333
where are the lungs?
771
00:32:49,416 --> 00:32:50,893
Hey, Erik, you copy?
772
00:32:50,916 --> 00:32:52,875
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
773
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,500
You guys don't see
any smoke down there?
774
00:32:55,583 --> 00:32:58,208
Travis, I could only see
the smoke at the beginning.
775
00:32:58,375 --> 00:32:59,851
It disappeared just
like you reported.
776
00:32:59,875 --> 00:33:01,833
No trace.
777
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,480
I don't see it coming
out of anywhere.
778
00:33:06,958 --> 00:33:08,375
- You going up top?
- Yeah.
779
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,000
Thomas is going up top.
780
00:33:10,125 --> 00:33:11,183
Look up there and see
if you can see any smoke
781
00:33:11,208 --> 00:33:12,500
with the drone.
782
00:33:12,625 --> 00:33:13,750
Yeah. All right, panning up.
783
00:33:19,208 --> 00:33:22,166
- You see any effect?
- No.
784
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:25,333
- Anything, Thomas?
- No.
785
00:33:25,416 --> 00:33:28,291
For the smoke to be
getting pulled down into the mesa,
786
00:33:28,375 --> 00:33:31,166
that means that there's
some kind of cavern or void
787
00:33:31,333 --> 00:33:34,833
sucking the smoke back
underground like a vacuum.
788
00:33:34,916 --> 00:33:37,291
Is it something natural
or could there be
789
00:33:37,416 --> 00:33:39,708
some artificial object
or device causing that?
790
00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:42,250
Hey, guys, I got one more.
791
00:33:42,375 --> 00:33:44,083
Do we want to try
and repeat that?
792
00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:45,666
I say we do. What do you think?
793
00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:46,708
- Yeah.
- Heck, yeah.
794
00:33:46,833 --> 00:33:48,250
- Okay, I'll bring it up.
- Okay.
795
00:33:49,166 --> 00:33:50,875
Erik, be advised,
796
00:33:51,041 --> 00:33:52,583
Dragon has one
more smoke grenade.
797
00:33:52,708 --> 00:33:53,851
He's gonna bring it up
and we're gonna drop it
798
00:33:53,875 --> 00:33:55,833
in the hole for a repeat.
799
00:33:55,958 --> 00:33:56,833
Copy that.
800
00:33:56,958 --> 00:33:58,375
You want to do it, Dragon, or...
801
00:33:58,541 --> 00:33:59,833
Sure, I can.
802
00:33:59,958 --> 00:34:01,375
All right, well, look.
803
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,083
We're getting ready
to pop smoke again,
804
00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:05,000
so keep an eye out.
805
00:34:05,083 --> 00:34:09,416
Three, two, one...
806
00:34:12,041 --> 00:34:14,125
Yeah, that's probably
good enough.
807
00:34:15,791 --> 00:34:17,833
- Purple smoke.
- Yeah.
808
00:34:17,916 --> 00:34:19,356
There's just a
little bit coming out,
809
00:34:19,416 --> 00:34:20,791
but that... N-No.
810
00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:22,500
Look at it.
811
00:34:22,666 --> 00:34:25,375
- It's pulling it back down.
- Yeah, it is, look at it.
812
00:34:25,541 --> 00:34:27,541
Yeah, look, it's
pulling it down right here.
813
00:34:30,208 --> 00:34:32,875
That first little bit
kind of filtered out,
814
00:34:33,041 --> 00:34:35,291
the rest is getting
sucked back down.
815
00:34:35,416 --> 00:34:38,208
There should be
a lot more smoke than that.
816
00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:40,958
Those smoke
grenades last a while.
817
00:34:41,083 --> 00:34:43,625
- It's gone.
- It's gone, look.
818
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,833
That's just weird.
819
00:34:45,916 --> 00:34:48,333
Hey, Erik, same thing happened.
820
00:34:48,416 --> 00:34:49,708
A little bit of smoke came out
821
00:34:49,833 --> 00:34:51,250
then it all just
kind of went away.
822
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,018
Did y'all see any smoke
come out of anywhere?
823
00:34:53,041 --> 00:34:54,458
Not down here, Travis.
824
00:34:54,541 --> 00:34:57,333
Did Thomas see
anything on the back side?
825
00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,833
- I don't see anything up here.
- Yeah?
826
00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:02,077
I even walked back there
up on the ridge a little bit.
827
00:35:02,166 --> 00:35:03,250
I don't see anything.
828
00:35:04,666 --> 00:35:06,625
We've got a lot of
data suggesting that
829
00:35:06,708 --> 00:35:09,583
there's something interesting
going on in this area.
830
00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:12,166
With all the stories that
we've heard of tunnels
831
00:35:12,291 --> 00:35:16,333
and caverns and underground
bases here in the mesa,
832
00:35:16,458 --> 00:35:19,833
I finally feel like we're starting
to make some progress.
833
00:35:19,958 --> 00:35:22,458
Well, it means there's got to
be some sort of an opening,
834
00:35:22,541 --> 00:35:25,416
if it's pulling that much smoke
and none of it's leaking out.
835
00:35:25,541 --> 00:35:28,000
We're out of smoke bombs,
I guess just head down.
836
00:35:28,083 --> 00:35:30,416
All right, I'm landing.
837
00:35:31,833 --> 00:35:34,208
As I like to say,
"We are led by the data."
838
00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:36,666
And all of the
data are pointing to
839
00:35:36,791 --> 00:35:39,000
the existence of a large void,
840
00:35:39,125 --> 00:35:41,541
somewhere inside of
the face of this mesa.
841
00:35:41,708 --> 00:35:45,250
I would love to get
eyes on what's in there.
842
00:35:45,375 --> 00:35:47,958
- Welcome back to earth.
- Yeah.
843
00:35:48,083 --> 00:35:50,625
So you did find something?
844
00:35:50,750 --> 00:35:53,500
Uh, we did find something.
845
00:35:53,583 --> 00:35:55,833
Sure weird, from
what I saw from the air.
846
00:35:55,916 --> 00:35:59,541
It was, it was like the mesa
just took a deep breath.
847
00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:03,166
Yep, you could literally see it
being sucked down into the hole.
848
00:36:03,333 --> 00:36:06,000
And the hole, it seems
like it just went forever.
849
00:36:06,083 --> 00:36:08,000
It was just like a
vacuum cleaner turned on
850
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:09,458
and it sucked all
that smoke down
851
00:36:09,583 --> 00:36:10,208
- and then it was gone.
- Yeah, it was gone.
852
00:36:10,375 --> 00:36:12,000
So, it went somewhere.
853
00:36:12,125 --> 00:36:14,458
That hole goes
deeper than we think.
854
00:36:14,583 --> 00:36:16,382
Well, I think we got to
figure some things out
855
00:36:16,541 --> 00:36:18,434
before we do the next thing.
We really want to do this right.
856
00:36:18,458 --> 00:36:21,041
The experiment
definitely confirmed
857
00:36:21,208 --> 00:36:23,125
that there is something
that we need to explore
858
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:24,625
deep inside the mesa.
859
00:36:24,708 --> 00:36:26,916
But we're gonna have
to move some earth,
860
00:36:27,041 --> 00:36:28,351
and that means
digging or drilling
861
00:36:28,375 --> 00:36:29,875
to find out what it is.
862
00:36:30,041 --> 00:36:31,434
So, we need to have
a serious meeting
863
00:36:31,458 --> 00:36:32,518
with Brandon and
get his blessing,
864
00:36:32,541 --> 00:36:34,333
'cause we've seen in the past,
865
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,250
it's always risky to dig
on Skinwalker Ranch,
866
00:36:37,375 --> 00:36:39,041
but I don't see another choice.
867
00:36:39,166 --> 00:36:40,916
Great work, as always, Pete.
868
00:36:41,041 --> 00:36:43,184
- Thank you very much, appreciate it.
- Oh, my pleasure.
869
00:36:43,208 --> 00:36:45,250
All right. We'll
load up, head back.
870
00:36:54,916 --> 00:36:56,625
Oh, well, here they are.
871
00:36:56,708 --> 00:36:58,625
Now that we've found what may be
872
00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:02,000
a purposely covered up system
of caverns, or who knows what,
873
00:37:02,125 --> 00:37:03,166
in the mesa...
874
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:07,250
we need to explain it to Brandon
875
00:37:07,375 --> 00:37:08,726
and have a serious
discussion about
876
00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:10,500
what he's willing
to allow us to do
877
00:37:10,583 --> 00:37:13,791
to get inside and see what
the heck could be there.
878
00:37:13,875 --> 00:37:15,291
Well, Brandon, as usual,
879
00:37:15,375 --> 00:37:16,768
we have some
intriguing things to report.
880
00:37:16,791 --> 00:37:20,250
We've taken a lot of data
with the GPS experiments,
881
00:37:20,375 --> 00:37:21,851
with the helicopter,
with the airplane,
882
00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:24,833
and we've seemed to find
883
00:37:24,958 --> 00:37:27,500
there's an anomaly
that's just a little bit west
884
00:37:27,625 --> 00:37:30,625
of the, uh, triangle that's
causing it to look like...
885
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,500
actually, that Cameron's
helicopter flew us
886
00:37:32,666 --> 00:37:34,166
into the mesa,
887
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:36,708
and then out of the mesa
on top somehow or other.
888
00:37:36,833 --> 00:37:38,559
- Okay.
- That's kind of in the same location
889
00:37:38,583 --> 00:37:40,708
that we've had an
eyewitness suggest
890
00:37:40,833 --> 00:37:42,309
that there was a
cave there in the past.
891
00:37:42,333 --> 00:37:44,333
Really? Oh. Wow.
892
00:37:44,458 --> 00:37:48,541
Chris Bartel, uh, one
of the former guards
893
00:37:48,666 --> 00:37:51,500
for Mr. Bigelow, he came
out here and visited with us,
894
00:37:51,666 --> 00:37:53,708
and he showed us this cavern.
895
00:37:53,833 --> 00:37:56,791
Thomas and I had one
of his associates come out
896
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:59,000
who's done a lot of
blasting and drilling.
897
00:37:59,125 --> 00:38:00,324
Well, he-he just looked at it,
898
00:38:00,416 --> 00:38:02,333
and he said it does
have the appearance
899
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:05,666
that it could have been
blasted and collapsed.
900
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:08,000
Chris Bartel showing
us this cavern
901
00:38:08,125 --> 00:38:09,605
led us to explore
further in that area
902
00:38:09,708 --> 00:38:11,375
to see if we could
find other clues
903
00:38:11,541 --> 00:38:13,625
or maybe other entrances.
904
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:16,166
- Mm-hmm.
- And we actually did find some other holes,
905
00:38:16,291 --> 00:38:18,500
uh, which we dropped
smoke bombs down into.
906
00:38:18,666 --> 00:38:21,541
The smoke started to come
up out of the hole and then it was
907
00:38:21,708 --> 00:38:23,166
as if somebody
turned on a vacuum,
908
00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:25,416
and the smoke sucked
down into the hole,
909
00:38:25,541 --> 00:38:27,083
and we never saw
another trace of it.
910
00:38:27,208 --> 00:38:29,875
- Wow.
- That was really strange.
911
00:38:30,041 --> 00:38:31,833
Yeah, it was... it was odd.
912
00:38:31,958 --> 00:38:36,750
It really suggests that there
is some sort of opening,
913
00:38:36,875 --> 00:38:40,333
uh, network underneath the
rocks, underneath the mesa.
914
00:38:40,458 --> 00:38:45,416
The fact that the-the
smoke experiment showed
915
00:38:45,541 --> 00:38:48,166
that there's some
void, there's something
916
00:38:48,291 --> 00:38:51,916
that is pulling that
material into the mesa,
917
00:38:52,041 --> 00:38:53,583
I mean, that's-that's
a key clue.
918
00:38:53,708 --> 00:38:55,666
Yeah, it was the
most bizarre thing.
919
00:38:55,791 --> 00:38:58,166
There's an airflow somewhere
going into something,
920
00:38:58,250 --> 00:39:00,458
a void somewhere or whatever.
921
00:39:00,541 --> 00:39:02,583
Since it never came
out lower, that suggests
922
00:39:02,708 --> 00:39:05,541
there's an opening underneath,
underneath the mesa out there.
923
00:39:05,666 --> 00:39:08,750
- Yeah.
- As we've discussed before,
924
00:39:08,875 --> 00:39:11,958
this is an area attended
by GPS receivers
925
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:15,500
behaving anomalously
in that part of the ranch.
926
00:39:15,666 --> 00:39:18,000
What's doing it? What's
interfering with them?
927
00:39:18,125 --> 00:39:20,958
- And what may have been covered up in the past?
- Yeah.
928
00:39:21,041 --> 00:39:23,458
What were
they hiding in that mesa?
929
00:39:23,541 --> 00:39:25,291
That's the big question, right?
930
00:39:25,375 --> 00:39:27,500
What were they hiding
and why would they
931
00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:31,208
deliberately cover
up their tracks?
932
00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:33,458
I think Thomas has
found the ideal solution.
933
00:39:33,583 --> 00:39:35,083
What would you propose?
934
00:39:35,208 --> 00:39:37,958
Well, I have a, I
have a good friend
935
00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:39,416
that is a driller.
936
00:39:39,541 --> 00:39:41,833
Now, he's a horizontal driller.
937
00:39:41,958 --> 00:39:44,750
This drill is special in
the fact that it's directional,
938
00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:47,125
and it allows him to
steer the bit around.
939
00:39:47,250 --> 00:39:50,208
- Wow.
- And so, we could set it up at the base of the mesa
940
00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:53,125
and drill horizontally
into the mesa,
941
00:39:53,208 --> 00:39:56,291
and we can steer it around.
942
00:39:56,416 --> 00:39:58,018
And so, it would allow
us to explore and see
943
00:39:58,041 --> 00:40:00,500
if we might be able to
punch into one of these voids.
944
00:40:00,625 --> 00:40:04,416
That is a perfect match for
our problem set, Thomas.
945
00:40:04,541 --> 00:40:07,708
I'm very curious to find
out what may be hidden
946
00:40:07,833 --> 00:40:09,958
in that chamber or
at least in that area.
947
00:40:10,041 --> 00:40:13,416
You have my approval to
proceed, but proceed with care.
948
00:40:13,541 --> 00:40:16,500
I want to minimize the
amount of disruption
949
00:40:16,583 --> 00:40:18,500
over in that area, and
I want to make sure
950
00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,208
that safety is paramount.
951
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:24,000
- You got it, Brandon.
- Let's go.
952
00:40:24,125 --> 00:40:27,250
You can't really take this ranch
953
00:40:27,375 --> 00:40:29,500
as a serious
scientific investigation
954
00:40:29,666 --> 00:40:32,166
if you don't take in mind
955
00:40:32,291 --> 00:40:34,458
all of the lore and
mythology that comes with it.
956
00:40:34,583 --> 00:40:37,333
We've heard so many stories
957
00:40:37,458 --> 00:40:39,166
about what's
underneath this mesa.
958
00:40:39,250 --> 00:40:42,541
We've heard myths of caves
that have portals in them,
959
00:40:42,708 --> 00:40:44,500
even a military base.
960
00:40:44,625 --> 00:40:46,791
Any information we
could get that tells us
961
00:40:46,875 --> 00:40:50,833
there's some type of
void or even a structure,
962
00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:53,333
that would be
amazing information.
963
00:40:53,458 --> 00:40:55,166
I believe as we move forward,
964
00:40:55,333 --> 00:40:59,500
the mesa holds secrets
that have yet to be revealed.
965
00:40:59,625 --> 00:41:02,666
We have to always be aware
966
00:41:02,791 --> 00:41:05,458
that anytime we begin
digging or disturbing the earth,
967
00:41:05,583 --> 00:41:09,041
we stand to experience harm
968
00:41:09,166 --> 00:41:11,458
and there's a risk involved.
969
00:41:11,541 --> 00:41:15,875
However, I can tell you
we are onto something.
970
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,291
This is the time to
put our foot on the gas
971
00:41:18,416 --> 00:41:20,541
and to charge forward,
972
00:41:20,666 --> 00:41:23,375
so we can hopefully
catch a glimpse
973
00:41:23,541 --> 00:41:26,458
of what is really at work
at Skinwalker Ranch.
974
00:41:31,208 --> 00:41:35,041
We're hoping that
we can go drill through the mesa
975
00:41:35,166 --> 00:41:36,583
and see if we hit any voids.
976
00:41:37,875 --> 00:41:39,833
That looks like
a big chunk of something.
977
00:41:39,916 --> 00:41:43,000
What is that? It
definitely looks metallic.
978
00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:45,333
Let's run a snake
camera down in the mesa.
979
00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:46,875
There it is.
980
00:41:47,041 --> 00:41:47,791
What is that?
981
00:41:47,916 --> 00:41:50,041
This thing is broadcasting.
982
00:41:50,166 --> 00:41:52,458
This thing shouldn't be
broadcasting anything.
983
00:41:52,541 --> 00:41:55,291
- Hey. Are you okay?
- No.
984
00:41:55,375 --> 00:41:56,534
Tom just blacked out.
985
00:41:58,233 --> 00:42:00,728
What is that? It
definitely looks metallic.
986
00:42:00,753 --> 00:42:00,731
Let’s run a snake
camera down in the mesa.
987
00:42:00,755 --> 00:42:00,733
There it is.
988
00:42:00,757 --> 00:42:00,735
What is that?
989
00:42:00,759 --> 00:42:00,737
This thing is broadcasting.
990
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:00,739
This thing shouldn’t be
broadcasting anything.
991
00:42:00,762 --> 00:42:00,740
- Hey. Are you okay?
- No.
992
00:42:00,764 --> 00:42:02,277
Tom just blacked out.
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