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So, back in England,
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because I was doing some good pictures and I'd won an award,
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I was kind of expected to be able to do everything.
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And so, I started taking jobs that,
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I wasn't really qualified to do, you know.
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Lighting, I knew nothing about.
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I didn't have the modern cameras
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that had the TTL flashes on them,
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as in the through the lens metering.
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So, I would do press jobs where, at night,
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where I've gotta use a flash and I just,
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you know, they were either overexposed or underexposed.
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I was shooting on transparency film,
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which is completely unforgiving.
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Like, if you more than a third of a stop off
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when you shoot slide film, it's gone.
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So, I had quite a sort of depressing
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thump back down to Earth.
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At the sort of heights of all this travel and stuff.
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And very much did a lot of things wrong.
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Waited for big opportunities to come to me,
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didn't work hard enough to do them myself.
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And then good couple of years went by,
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and then I'm I'm 23 years old.
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And the wars kicked off very, very, very
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full on war in Chechnya, in Grozny.
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So a friend of mine,
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talks to me and says, "what you doing?"
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"Why aren't you working?"
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You know, basically I had a friend
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that gave me a real kick in the ass and was like,
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"look, you know, you've got this talent,"
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"you're wasting it away."
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"You should be doing big news stories."
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And we talked about Chechnya, went to sleep.
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The next morning, there's a pounding on the door
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at about 6:30 in the morning, and he's there.
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And he hands me this envelope.
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I remember it was like a ripped brown envelope
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full of cash, had £500 in it.
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And he was like, "here."
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"Go to Chechnya and restart your career."
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"And when, and when it becomes a success,"
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"don't get, I don't want the money back,"
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"hand it on someone."
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You know, it was a real spiritual deal.
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So he's like, "hand it on."
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So I was like, "okay, incredible."
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And within two days, I was on my way out to Russia.
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Did everything the wrong way around.
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I had no visas, no press passes, no right to be there.
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I basically traveled with a news night team,
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down to Chechnya.
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And, were it not for, you know,
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literally being in the back of a bus
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full of people with press passes,
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they just never checked mine;
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and found my way into Chechnya.
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Where I hooked up with a defense correspondent
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from the Independent Newspaper, guy called Chris Bellamy.
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And we went to work, covering the war.
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And this was a really full-on place.
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I was recently with the BBC's correspondent, Jeremy Bowen,
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who's their Middle East correspondent.
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And I talked to him last year about,
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the experience of being in Chechnya.
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And he said, "well, look, I've done this ever since."
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"And the only anything that ever came close was,"
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"being in Homs, in Syria, a few years, a few years ago."
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And he said "outside of that,"
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"nothing has touched the sides like Grozny did."
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So, we,
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I got through that and you sort, you know,
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you have a lot of experiences in these sort of places.
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And came back and immediately planned to go to Sierra Leone.
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I had an offer from a mate of mine who'd left the army,
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and he was a mercenary.
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And there was a mercenary army,
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gonna try and overthrow the government.
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And,
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I asked if I could go along and take photos.
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And it was agreed.
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So I turn up in Sierra Leone,
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go to the hotel where I'm meant to meet everyone.
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And there's this little crappy handwritten note
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that says, something like, "it's all gone to shit,"
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"you're on your own, good luck."
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Mick. Right.
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And so I've arrived there,
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and my big story has evaporated in front of me.
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And I can't really afford to go home
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with my tail between my legs,
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'cause I've invested this,
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you know the money in the airfare and stuff.
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I set about going to work.
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I stayed there for about five weeks,
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covering all sorts of things, but it was grim as hell.
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And I had a number of experiences
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that absolutely petrified me.
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And by the day I left,
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I swore I was never, ever, ever,
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going to go to a war zone again,
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and I have stuck to that religiously.
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So that was 25 years ago.
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And I've never, ever been remotely tempted to go back.
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So I come back to the UK, and I'm definitely freaked out.
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I'm definitely not entirely, sort of, mentally happy.
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And I'm shooting,
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I suppose stories that are quite, you know,
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they're sort of still quite dark.
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So I'm still a photo journalist.
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I photograph this family and their poor daughter,
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as she was dying of CJD,
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which was the human strain of Mad Cow Disease.
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I broke the story of the second generation of Thalidomide.
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So the, where kids of Thalidomide parents were
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having the same deformities as their parents.
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And it had been believed that that wasn't possible.
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I did stories about bereavement,
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about kids with brain damage,
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from sort of, road traffic accidents.
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All quite heavy stuff.
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And then I mixed that,
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with these really ridiculously quirky stores.
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Quirky features like, you know,
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a baby gorilla growing up in a human household,
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which was, you know, a Zookeeper's household.
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I went to Sweden,
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and did a story on show jumping bunny rabbits, right?
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And these stories would syndicate.
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They would sell to maybe, you know,
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70 magazines around the world would run my pictures
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of show jumping bunny rabbits, right.
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And as sort of embarrassing stories the like that sound,
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they were A, very profitable,
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and funded me doing these much more in depth stories.
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Much more profound, concerned, worthy stories, I suppose.
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