All language subtitles for Hart to Heart s02e07 Saweetie.eng

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-My guest today is a great
example of a self-made artist.

She started writing lyrics
in middle school

and made her own demos
throughout college.

Eventually, those demos
racked up

hundreds of millions of views
on the social media platforms.

Now -- well, now she's a
multi-platinum selling artist,

and she was nominated
for two Grammys this year,

one for Best New Rapper
and the other for Best Rap Song.

We're talking about Saweetie.
Come on, girl. Get out here.

-Get out here.
-I know that's right.

Hello. How are you?
Good to see you.

-Nice to see you.
-Nice to see you.

First, sit down, huh?

-You got some
good cheese.

-Well, first of all,
I didn't ask for this.

-I did.
-I never have this.

This is a request from you.

You asked for the cheese
plate, candles.

I don't do the candles.
That's you, too.

You feel like you needed
to set the vibe

and ambiance to your liking
for you to come out here.

-It's all about
the vibe.

-You proud of yourself?
-Mm-hmm.

-Yeah?
You feel like you did good?

-Yeah, I did great.
-Okay.

This is my som.

Come on in here, man.
What do we got today?

-Mr. Heart.
Miss Saweetie.

Well, I have a couple
of amazing selections

with a third selection that's
being chilled in the cellar

for yourself.

I'm going to start you off
with a beautiful red wine

from northern California,

a blend of Portuguese
grape varieties

called Tinta Cao,
Tinta Roriz.

-I was going to ask you,
was it Tinta Cao.

-Absolutely.
You nailed it.

-[ Laughs ]

-Let me see that.
Let me hit the Tinta Cao.

-Absolutely.
Hit that.

-Mm-hmm.
-Now, for Miss Saweetie,

while your Riesling
is in the cellar

come in the proper
temperature...

-How much shit
did she ask for?

-Everything.
-[ Laughs ]

...we've got a little La Mer
from the coast,

central coastal
California for you.

Chardonnay,
but I do have Riesling in order.

-That'll do.
I like it.

-You a Riesling drinker?

-I like red wine.
-Yeah.

-I just didn't want it
to, like, dye my teeth.

-Ah.

-I can always bring a glass
of this.

-Always thinking.
Always thinking.

Over here,
to be comfortable,

so if that was the case,
and I would make sure

that you're protected,
I would get it in the edit.

So you want some red?
You can have some red.

Just let me know.
-That's okay.

Okay. All right.
My guy, thank you, man.

-Thank you both.

-Ooh, I think I want
some red now.

-You want some red? Get the red.
-Absolutely.

-One glass of red.

Just line them up
over here for her, please.

Cheers. This is to you.
Thank you so much for coming on.

Let's talk about you.
Let's talk about

where you're from.
From Sacramento.

-From the Bay,
and then I moved to Sacramento.

From the Bay. Born and raised.
Big family?

-Hella big. My mom's side is big
and my dad's side is big.

-Okay.
-Mm-hmm.

-When you say your mom's side
if big, your dad's side is big,

how many siblings?
What are we talking about here?

-So my dad's side, nine uncles
and aunties,

and on my mom's side,

seven aunties and uncles.

-All protective of you?
-Yes.

very protective.
Are you considered the baby?

Not the baby?
What are you considered?

-So I was the first grandchild
on my mom's side.

And I was the first girl
grandchild on my dad's side.

-Okay. Now, Gabrielle Union
is your cousin, correct?

Are you and Gab, like, close?
Do people know about this?

Do they not know about
this?

-People know.
-They do know?

-Uh-huh.
-I never knew that.

- Well, she was
my dad's first cousin,

so he grew up with her.

-I never knew that.
Me and Gab are very close.

So, I don't know why
Gab wouldn't tell me that.

-I don't know.

I don't know either.
Kind of pisses me off.

-[ Laughs ]
-Pisses me off.

Gab's success early on
in her career,

I mean, is that something
that sparked you,

your interest
for entertainment at all?

Was it something where you saw
the things that she accomplished

and that she achieved?

Was there will and want
because of that,

or was yours
more of a discovery later on?

-It was a discovery later on.
When I was younger,

I wanted to be a hair stylist.

-Really?
-Yeah.

I was, like,
in elementary school

doing all my homegirls'
hair,

so I thought that's
what I wanted to do.

-Well, you can't say
hairstyles

and I not address
your hair now.

This is the first time
I've seen you with short hair.

I've never seen you
with short hair.

Why? What prompted
the short hair?

-I feel like it's symbolic

to where I'm at just
in my human life.

-Was that mean?
Define it.

-Well, I feel like...

...in quarantine, I had time to
do a lot of, like,

self reflection.
-Mm-hmm.

-I learned how to meditate.

-Mm-hmm.
-And through meditation,

I've had access
to my higher self.

-Okay.

-And that gave me
a whole new experience.

And when I did that,
I wanted to start fresh.

And I did my research.

And I heard or read
that hair holds a lot of energy.

So it's essentially
the metamorphosis

of Saweetie and Diamonté,

caterpillar
into butterfly.

-Holy shit. I don't want to skip
around too much,

but I can't not piggyback
off of this.

When you say
your higher self, right,

of course we're talking about
self-discovery.

So within self-discovery,

what is that you were unhappy
with or not satisfied with

of the other self,
the other version of you?

-So through meditation,
I learned about chakras

and I learned that a lot of
my chakras were like, damaged.

-Define chakras for those
who do not know.

Let's act like I don't know
what it is.

I do.
But let's act like I don't.

-So I didn't know
what meditation was.

Meditation
is concentration,

focus, self-awareness.
I didn't know that.

Chakras are energy points
throughout your body.

-Okay. All right.
-You have seven.

You have your root,
your sacral, your solar,

your heart, your throat,
your third eye, and your crown.

I don't- have three eyes.

-[ Laughs ]
-I don't have three eyes.

-Get that eye,
you know?

-But I don't have
three eyes.

-I didn't say
you have three eyes.

-But you're saying --
you're suggesting

that people that are familiar
with the chakra,

they have three eyes?
Is that what you're saying?

Okay. All right. So in
this discovery, right,

let's get to the root of why.
Like, you don't just turn it on.

That doesn't just happen.

You don't wake up
one day and go,

"Oh, my God. Meditation is
what I've been missing."

Like, there's
a reason for it.

What was the reason for you
going down this path? Why?

-Well, I was really
stressed out.

I have two great mentors,
Bob and Rance,

and they taught me about --
-Who are they?

-So Big Bob is like,

he specializes in branding,

and Rance
is a part of the 1500 Group,

and they have a music academy
down in Inglewood.

-Okay.
So I met them,

created a great relationship,

and they would see me
stressed out a lot.

And they were like,
"Do you meditate?"

I'm like, "I don't meditate.
I don't believe in that."

And then they broke it down,
and I tried it,

and it was such
a 180 for me.

-Now, when you say, like,
you were stressed,

is this the business?

You know, I have a lot
of conversations on here,

and a lot of the conversations
always go to a place

where we talk about how nobody
prepares you for the world

of shit that comes
with success.

Right? You know,
you're not an overnight success,

but you're not
an old person.

You're very much
a young female,

a young player
in the game of entertainment,

and finding success
the way that you did,

I mean,
it did come kind of fast.

So is that where the bulk
of the stress came from?

-Yeah. I've been stressed out
for, like, the last three years.

-Yeah?
-[ Laughs ]

-And you felt like you
were dealing with it?

Like, the stress, that you
felt like you were hiding,

or you felt like
you were just...

-The stress
with just being a woman,

being a woman
in the spotlight.

You know, it's like,
very microscopic.

It's like, "What are you doing
with your life?"

Everybody's micromanaging,
like, your moves,

making comments, opinions.
I wasn't used to that.

And also, like,
just by running my own business,

I have my own employees,

managing different
personalities,

different boundaries,
and trying to keep the balance.

-Okay. When you say
"the world of", right,

you're like, "Okay, wow.
It's a lot. It's a lot for me.

Like, I'm dealing with
the world of comments,

the dealing with
the lens

that people are now
looking at me through."

Do you feel like you were
misunderstood at any point?

Do you feel like you were
a false version of yourself

and you were never
your true self?

Like, I'm just trying to get
to the discovery

of why you ended up
going down the road.

-No, I've always been
my true self.

However, I've controlled
that narrative,

like, just not showing
too much of,

like, my personal life,
my personality,

but the world of just
the Internet, celebrity,

paparazzi, people invading
into your intimate space,

I wasn't ready for that.

-Too much for you.
-It was just a lot.

Just people commenting
on everything that I did --

makeup, relationships, songs
and, you know, my artistry.

And I'm really like --
it's, like, sensitive.

I'm sensitive about that.

-Did you ever reach
a breaking point,

where you were like,
"Fuck this. This is enough"?

-I haven't reached
a breaking point.

Hopefully, I don't ever come
to the place where I'm like,

"I don't want to do this
anymore,"

but I've had tons
of mental breakdowns.

-What is the mental breakdown
to you?

What does that mean?

Is that you snap
and is that you throwing stuff?

Is it a fit? What's a
mental breakdown in your world?

-So I have a high tolerance
for stress,

for pain, for just turmoil.

-Okay.

-So my mental breakdown

is like -- I feel
like my body overheats.

I feel like the inside of me is,
like, rotten.

If I don't sleep a lot,
I feel dehydrated,

and I feel like --
like, I just --

It's like a weird yell-cry.
-Sounds like anxiety.

Sounds like a high level
of anxiety.

And you then finding
this world of meditation,

you felt like you're able
to control that,

or now you're able to deal with
that in a much better light?

A better way?
-Yeah, because meditation

helps with balancing
your energy, centering yourself.

It allows you to, like,
think thoroughly and clear

without any distractions.
And it's been such a gift to me.

-Well, we talk about the world
of growth, the success.

I mean, the people
around you play a major key.

Right? They play a big,
big part in that.

Do you feel like
you've been able to stay true

to the same circle,
or has that circle changed

as your success levels
have changed?

-Honestly, I had a really, like,
traumatic experience

in middle school,
and ever since then,

like, my circle
has always been tight.

I still got
the same best friend.

I still, like, know the same
people who I grew up with

since high school,
like, who are very close to me.

-That's impressive.
-Yeah. So...

-What was your traumatic
experience?

What was that?
What just happened?

What just happened to your face
just now?

-So this is what happened.

So we had, like, a girl clique,
right, in middle school,

and I got a boyfriend
for the first time.

-Okay.
-And I just felt hella cute.

It was me and him.
We were doing our thing.

And we had a girl group.

And I noticed that
some of my best friends

started getting jealous of me

and would just do, like,
smart remarks here and there.

And then one day,
I don't know what

prompted them to do this,
I woke up to hella voicemails

of them saying
that they were going to jump me.

-Oh, my God.
-Yes.

-By the way, I don't think
there's no bigger fear.

There's no bigger fear

than the fear of knowing
you're going to get jumped.

-Yeah.
So I take a bus to school.

We all ride the bus together.
So, I'm just like --

-Oh, my God. What time
is it going down?

What time is it happening?

So I tell my grandma,
and my grandma was like,

"Tell them to come
to the house."

-You told your grandma?

-Yeah, she's like,
my best friend.

-Okay.
-Yeah.

-Was your grandma about it?

She was like, "Tell them to come
to the house."

Because if they
come to the house,

no charges can, you know...

-Oh, my God.
Grandma's about that life.

Grandma's about that life.
Oh, no.

-Just for like, safety.

So I tell them.
They don't respond.

And this is how me
and my current best friend

became best friends.

So she was like, "I am not going
to let them jump you."

I don't know
what she said to them.

She called them.
They stopped calling me.

And Monday morning, we was
on defense, watching them.

They was watching us,
and they didn't no nothing.

-On defense.

By the way, spoken like
a true girl from the Bay.

"We were on the defense."

I'm gonna need some more
wine.

This conversation's
about to get good.

Please pour me up.

So wait a minute. So I'm gonna
give you a funny story.

Same thing happened,
but not as smooth, right?

I was told that
I was gonna get jumped one time.

And the difference between
your story and mine

is they actually did it.

They jumped me.
Yeah.

I didn't even
see it coming either.

I was at the locker. I was at my
locker, doing my code,

and one guy said, "Yeah, Kev,
what was all that shit?"

And I was like,
"You tell me."

And all I know is
they came from this side.

It was a very good diversion
tactic that they pulled.

They made me look this way,

and it only lasted
for about 15 seconds.

I don't know if they all got
a hit or not,

but it definitely happened.
It went down.

So my way of dealing with it was
acting like it never happened.

-Wait. What?
-Yeah, that's what I did.

I just acted like
it never happened.

So afterwards, like, everybody
was just staring at me.

I got up, and I was just asking
people to pass me my stuff.

I like, "Give me my shoe,"
because my shoe came off.

There's nothing worse than your
shoe coming off while you fight.

Yeah, cause you got to put
that on in front of everybody.

"Pass that, please.
Thank you. Give me that book.

No, the algebra book.
Thank you. Please. Excuse me.

Where's my backpack?"
I just walked it off.

But I definitely relate
to the whole world of knowing

you're going to get
jumped.

-You're a great storyteller.
-Well, it's a fucking truth.

That's why. Alright?
That's something I still --

Maybe I need -- Oh, my God.
What if that was my chakra?

What if my chakra
made me remember --

That was my third. Where was my
third eye a then?

-No, it's your root chakra.
-Where the fuck was it then?

-Is about safety.
-Yeah, I bet it is.

It wasn't. It wasn't then.

-You got to activate it.

-Ladies and gentlemen,
we've got to take a break.

But when we come back,

oh, my God,
we got more Saweetie

on "Hart to Heart".

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-Well, you didn't go anywhere
because

I didn't let you go for long.
This is till "Hart to Heart",

and I'm still sitting here
with Saweetie.

Now, let's get into it.
You're affecting lives.

You have people that really
are listening to you.

They really are following
your every move.

Once again,
we're talking about music.

So your creativity is important.
How do you create?

What's your process like,
for you to put music

on a piece of paper,
right?

Is there a period of time when
that happens or is it random?

Are you allotting a certain
amount of time when you say,

"On these days I work
on this specific thing"?

Or is it a feeling?

And when you get that feeling,
you say,

"Fuck it, I'm gonna run
with this feeling.

I'm going to the studio"?
What's your process?

-Mm. Honestly, up until now,
because I've told my label,

my management,
when I record my album,

I need to go to a house
and I need to be designated.

I don't want nobody
bothering me,

and I want to create,
and that's all I want to do.

-Do you change the house
like you did my set?

You put, like, cheese plates

and candles
and shit like that around?

-It's going to be a vibe.
-Yes, it's a vibe. Okay.

-But before that, like,

recording
was very strenuous to me

because I would be recording
in different cities.

One time, I did a Calvin Klein
shoot, dance rehearsals,

and then had to turn in a song.

Yeah, it was like -- I felt like
my creativity spirit

wasn't nourished,

like I was recording
under stress.

So I'm really excited
for this album

because I'm going to be
recording secluded

somewhere away.

-Does your father, mother,
did they play a major role

in you calming down?

Like, you know,
"I'm hearing a lot of stress.

Let me hear you talk about,
like, oh, my God,

it was a crazy time."

Like, do they play a role

in getting you to a place
of ease, of comfort?

Are you still close?
Are you guys talking a lot?

-We just got close,
I would say, last year.

-When you talk about "we",
is it both parents?

Really? Why? Why were
you not close for a while?

-Well, growing up,
they would work a lot.

I was always being babysat
by other people,

meaning people in my family.

And then the opportunity,

when it presented itself,
I went away to college.

I went to San Diego State,
then USC.

I've been independent
for a really long time.

Like, I was that kid,
like, in third or fourth grade,

I had a key to my house
and I would walk home

and I had a key to my house.

I would do my homework,
I would clean the dishes,

I would make my food.
Like, I've been independent

for a really long time,
and I've never --

-Is that something that you're,
like,

angry about now
that you look back at it,

or what's
the feeling of that now?

-I think the feeling as a child
was just like,

I was always
yearning for them.

-Okay.
At the time, or were you okay

with what was going on?
-No, at the time.

Like, I was kind of
like a sad little kid.

-Okay.
-Yeah.

-I mean --

By the way, you're not saying
anything wrong.

It's crazy, though,

how it's the same type of thing,
but the opposite.

Like, I wanted that.

So the freedom
that you're talking about,

you had -- or that you had,

I didn't have.
I wanted that freedom.

-Really?
You had both parents?

-Well, no, my dad
was in and out,

on drugs, off drugs,
in jail, out of jail.

But my mom was very strict.

-How old was, like,
your parents

when they had you?

-When they had me?
I don't know.

My mom passed away.
I think at the time, my mom was,

what, 35, 36 when I was
in my high school years.

So it wasn't like I had
crazy super young parents,

you know what I mean?
It was the average age,

but my mom just didn't want
to make the same mistakes.

So, was it
that type of thing?

-Yeah, my mom had me
when she was 17.

-Makes sense.
-Yeah.

My dad was young, too.

They was just always hustling
and working.

Was there a respect
for the hustle

at any point of understanding,
like, why they're not around,

or...

-Well, they would always
tell me we're a team.

In order for us to win, like,
you have to do your part.

So it's like, my part
was behaving, being responsible.

Like, I was like a little woman.

-How did you not go down
the wrong path?

-Because I'm scared
of my parents.

[ Laughs ]
-Okay. Okay.

-They are very, like --
they're enforcers. They were.

-I mean, that's kind
of impressive.

-Mm-hmm.

-Because you could have easily
done the wrong thing.

Like, the world

is set up for you to make
the wrong decision.

It's so easy
to make the wrong decision.

-So my dad, like, if I want to
go play outside,

he would cut up articles
about girls getting abducted,

girls being sex trafficked,
kids making the wrong decisions,

and then ending up somewhere
they shouldn't be.

So, like, he put me on game
at a really young age.

-Put me on game.
You so bae. You so bae.

With this understanding of life

that you had at a young age,

I mean, I can only assume that
you were, like, crazy mature.

Right? You talking about them
not being around.

As you got older, I would assume
that you voiced this to them

at some point in time.

When did you have
that conversation?

-Um...

I had this conversation
with my mom

around the time
"Icy Girl" came out.

And then I had this conversation

with my dad last year
on my birthday.

-For those who do not know,
"Icy Girl" -- single,

very successful
single of yours.

Why did that, at the time,

for you to say,
"Let me tell you how I feel"?

-Well, my mom was just...

...amazed that I did what I said
I was going to do.

Because she's Asian.
So, like --

-She's Asian.
She's mixed with a --

-Filipino-Chinese.
-Asian. Filipino-China.

Okay. Yes.
I've seen your mom.

Yes, I know.
It's a lot going on.

It's a lot going on in that pot.

-They both Asian, though.
-Yes. Okay. I get it.

So she was amazed
that you were able to accomplish

things that you've accomplished.

-Yeah, because a lot of
people -- I think it's like

3% become musicians
successfully.

I bought my own car.
I had my own spot.

And she just
was, like, proud of me.

And she told me the reason
why she raised me --

So, the reason why she was
so hard on me, because she --

Ooh, her life is just crazy.
She got to tell it.

But she didn't want me going
through what she went through

because she was on the streets
since she was like 14 years old.

-Wow.

-So she learned a lot
through trial and error

and she just wanted
to protect me.

-And your conversation with her,
how did your message come out?

Did you come in hot?

-No. I'm very calm.
-Okay.

-I kind of just took it all in.

-Okay.
-And she was just like,

"You're not going
to say nothing?"

But it was just a lot
for me to receive.

Like, I understood,
there was just some parts

I didn't understand,
and then she broke it down.

-Were there apologies?
Were there...

-Lots of apologies
from them. Mm-hmm.

They apologized
for my childhood.

-Did it mean anything
to you?

-It meant a lot to me.
Mm-hmm.

-Now I'm speaking to you as
if I'm your therapist. I'm not.

I'm just asking questions.

But was there ever a moment
where you considered therapy?

-Yeah, I did.
Mm-hmm.

-You did therapy or
you considered therapy?

-My mom put me
in therapy in sixth grade,

and I tried a therapist in L.A.
last year.

-Okay.
-It didn't work out so well.

-Why didn't the one
in L.A. work out?

-It was
a different type of therapy.

Like, I just want to talk.

But she had me do, like,
a whole bunch of exercises,

and I'm just like,
"Girl, I just want to talk."

-Give me an example
of an exercise.

-I think it was -- her strategy
was, like, cognitive repairing,

cognitive decision --

I don't know.
It's, like, rewiring

how you deal with your issues.

-I'm hearing you talk, and,
you know, from the way

that you're speaking
about meditation,

understanding the body,
understanding self,

now that you're talking
about therapy,

your vocabulary is amazing.
Are you well read?

-Mm-hmm.
-Yes?

-I was an avid reader
when I was a kid.

-Okay. Not as much now?

-Still.
-Still?

-I like your vocabulary.
You spin a lot of words at me.

And I'm gonna be honest with
you, I didn't understand

what a couple of them meant,
and I just kept it flowing.

I kept the conversation flowing
because I was --

-You're just trying to be funny
right now.

-No, 'cause when I don't know
what a word means,

I think about it in my head.

Because you've got
with a couple of them.

So when you said "cognitive",
I just had to use it in context

and I figured it out.

-It means the way you think.
-I know what the fuck it means.

Okay? I didn't.
I didn't know what it meant.

I had no idea
what that word meant.

So we should actually put that
underneath the screen right now

so the world can know, just in
cause you guys didn't know.

What I do know is that this is
an amazing conversation

and it has to continue.
Let's take a break.

We'll be right back with
more "Hart to Heart" after this.

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-We are back.
Guys, we're back here

on "Hart to Heart",
and I'm talking to Saweetie,

and we're having
such a great conversation.

I'm getting to know you,
so much about you.

What's going on?

-Can't waste it.
-Okay. Well, you don't --

-Mm.
-All right.

-That's good.
-Well, perfect segue

into my next question --
your appetite.

Some would referred to you

as -- what's it called? --
greedy. There it is.

Some people would say
that you're greedy.

You have put so much on display

when
it comes to your love for food,

the concoctions that you feel go
together.

It's even landed you a deal.

You know, a deal
in the food space.

You had your own meal at
McDonald's.

Before I get to the meal,

what the fuck is going on
with your system?

Let's just get into the
meat and potatoes of it.

Why the mixture
of such random and crazy foods?

-It's random?
-Yeah.

Didn't you put, like,
Cheetos and Oodles of --

You do a lot
of crazy stuff.

-This is how I do it.

Nobody showed me this,
but I'm telling you.

Okay? So don't tell anybody,
alright?

This is how I do it.

-I feel like, you know,

to do these things,
to have the understanding

that you can do these things
at some point in time,

life was hard.
When did you --

-[ Laughs ]

-When were you in a position

where all you had was
Oodles of Noodles and Cheetos?

You said, "I'm just gonna
put them together."

Why do you like
such random shit? What is it?

-So, when my grandma
would babysit me,

I got nine aunties and uncles
and hella cousins,

so there was always barely
any groceries in the house.

And you had to make it
do what it do in the kitchen.

-Okay.
-So, like, I love food.

So because I was eating
the same thing almost every day,

like when she would babysit us
for like the summertime,

we had to, like, just --
-Figure it out.

-...figure it out.
-Figure it out.

And has it
ever put you in a position

where you felt like,
"Okay,

I don't want nobody to see this.
I should keep this a secret?"

-No, I'm proud
of my food concoctions.

-So, you never felt
like, "I need to hide this?"

-Why?
-It's "Hart to Heart".

This is me and
you talking honestly.

-Uh-huh.
-Okay.

You got to have crazy gas
eating some of this stuff,

right?
-[ Laughs ]

-Let's just keep it
100 for a second, okay?

There's no way that
your system is that strong,

that you can take all that.
-Damn.

-Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Like, let's just keep it 100.

So, you're telling me
that you've never been like,

"I'm just going to wait 'til
I'm home by myself to eat this.

I'm not going
do this around company"?

-Is this where we're going?
-I'm just asking.

There's no way
that you can do that.

Like, I've seen you eat
some crazy shit.

-I got stomach still.
-It has to be.

How did the McDonald's offer
come about?

Did they come to you?
-Mm-hmm.

-Called you randomly
and said,

"Oh, my God,
we have such a good idea.

We've seen your love for our
product and how you eat it.

We would love to offer you..."
And it just made sense?

-Well, they called my agent.
Shout out to Marchito.

Love him.

And they were well aware
that I would go live.

And a lot of
my concoctions went viral.

-Yes. Yes. That's how I'm aware
of it as well.

-Mm-hmm.

You do understand, like, that's
the dope thing about your brand.

When you talk about
this young demographic,

you talk about your fan base,
especially the women

that follow you.

You know,
you've created

and curated your own ecosystem,
you know,

based off of social media,
based off engagement,

based off of your
impromptu moments.

Right? So they follow you.
They love you.

But I feel like your business
has evolved

because of your honesty,
the transparency,

the authenticity that people
have been able to attach to you.

So, that's really dope
that you got a food deal

coming out of you
just being a greedy ass.

What? That's what it is.
You've been a greedy ass.

You got rewarded for it.
It's dope as hell.

-I almost spit out my wine.
-You don't need to spit it out.

By the way, no way
you're going to waste that wine,

because you're a greedy ass,
okay?

There's no way that she's gonna
waste that wine.

-Bro, you might be
the funniest --

-Will you stop covering
your face

like somebody
throwing a baseball at you?

-No, 'cause I just
be laughing crazy.

-When did you make the decision
to say, "This is it?

This is what I'm doing
with my life.

This is what I'm doing.

I now have the answers.
I'm going to be a musician.

I'm in the business
of entertainment"?

-When I was 15.
-15 years old?

-I told my dad.
-What did your dad say?

-He said, "Rap for me."

-Really?
-Mm-hmm.

-Did you do it?
-Yeah.

-Were you ass?

-My lyrics were good,

but my delivery wasn't good.

-And did he give you, like,
the dope support instantly?

Like, "I love it?"
Or was it like, "Okay"?

-He said, "I hear
what you're saying,

but you got
to get more interesting."

-Mm.
-Mm-hmm.

-And you took that?
-Yeah. And every time

he'd have his homeboys over
while they would like,

be playing dominoes,

he would make me come out
to the garage and rap for them.

-On the spot?
-Yes.

-I mean, honestly, that's a way
to build up crazy confidence.

-Because he was raised up
in hip hop.

He was a breakdancer.
He was a bodyguard.

He was deep into,
like, the hip hop scene.

-Yeah, he got, like, a
lot of attention for a minute

when people found out
he was your dad.

-Mm-hmm.
-A lot of people

was coming at your dad
crazy, right?

-They used to wait outside
for my dad.

-They were trying to fuck
your dad?

-No, but, like,
in high school.

-They were trying to fuck
your dad, too.

-Yeah, all, like, the senior
girls would, like,

wait until I would get
dropped off at school

and they'd be like...

-That's one thing me and dad
have in common,

you know, as...

well, just,
you know, fathers, first of all.

And, you know, men that
are considered to be,

I don't know, model-like.

You know, it's
just something that I relate to.

I know what he was going through
at the time,

'cause I went through
that phase.

-Really? When?
-Hmm?

-[ Laughs ] When?
-I'm sorry, what did you say?

When did I go through the phase?
[ Exhales sharply ]

God, I'm trying to think.
It was waves.

It's different waves of it.

It's different waves of it
for sure.

Because right now, my mind's
just -- you know, it's --

I'm probably coming down
off of it now, but...

Yeah, it was...
-But when did it happen?

-I don't want to talk
to you about this.

Okay. All right.
Let me stop you right here,

because we got to take a break.
We got to pay some bills.

Guys, don't go nowhere.
We got more "Hart to Heart"

when we come back
after this.

**

**

-Welcome back.
Yes, we're still here.

We're having a "Hart to Heart",
and I'm talking to Saweetie.

Now we're into
the music business.

Holy shit. You didn't just say
you were going to do it.

You actually did it.
-Mm-hmm.

-You actually did it, right?
You said yourself earlier,

you're part of a very
small percentage of people

that find success in this space.

Oh, my God.
You found success in this space.

This dream is no longer a dream.
It's reality, right?

It's reality.
Look at your peers.

Look at the people that are now
your peers

that you're alongside.

Look at the other women

that you're able to stand next
to and you're able to talk

and discuss music with.

Holy shit, this is real.

Right? You talked about
the pressure that came with it.

You talked about
your ups and downs.

Well, let's talk about
where you now want to be.

Like you're in this space.

I want to know
what you want from music.

What's the goal?

-Well, my goal is to become
a media company.

-Oh, shit.
-Mm-hmm.

-So, you went past
the goddamn...

-I feel like being a musician
is the foundation,

and I've been able to create
a strong fan base from it,

but the next step up
is becoming a media company.

-That's pretty damn big.
That's pretty big.

Does business excites you?
-I love business.

-You love business more
than the craft?

-Mm. I believe that songs
are a form of service,

and I feel like business is also
a form of service.

So I like I like them both.

-Is there a space or place
where you were able

to grab the world of business
from?

Like, does this just come from
just being around

the entertainment world
in itself,

or as you've grown,

you've just seen things
and it made you say,

"Wow, this is
the real one over here.

This is what
I really want to do"?

-Well, in college, I've always
just been intrigued

with doing my research,
writing the essay,

creating the presentation
on topics that I love,

and the topics that I love
currently is fashion, music,

sometimes acting --
I did "Grown-ish" --

philanthropy, products,
goods of service.

And because I'm able to create
things that sell out --

-Talk your shit. I love it.
Go ahead.

I love it.
-But because

I'm able to create merchandise

and goods of services
that sell out,

I've been inspired
to sell direct to consumer.

So that's why I want to become
a media company,

to house all the brands
and businesses that I create.

-So smart.
When you talk about --

You just checked off
so many boxes, right?

So many things
that you now have access

to that you're involved in.

You mentioned acting
for a second.

Do you love it?
Is there want for more?

-My mom was an aspiring
actress,

so she was a really hot
video vixen,

when video Vixens had a great
connotation to their name.

She prides herself in it,
loves it.

So she was simultaneously
being a video vixen,

along with being
an aspiring actress.

And while she would be
getting ready for her auditions,

I would be sitting
on the toilet, of course,

with it closed,

but I would be, like, looking
at her, reading her her lines,

reading the other
characters' lines,

and she would be, like, acting
and rehearsing it with me.

And that's when I fell
in love with acting.

-You were her
set buddy, her character?

-And she would bring me
to auditions,

and she would have, like,
the girls in line,

like, watch me while she was,
like, filming her tape.

-You got to love that.

You know, and I heard
what you said earlier,

and I understand it.

You know, I definitely
understand your side of it

when you're talking about,

"Wow, I just wished
that they were there more,

but, you know,
they were hustlers."

And then when you hear
the story or stories

that's attached
to your parents in hustling,

like your mom going to
an audition, you going with her,

she goes in and people
are sitting there watching you,

I mean, stars are --
There's no coincidence.

There's no accident,
right?

Like. you are where you are,
you are who you are,

because that's what
it's supposed to be.

And when you look at your path
and trajectory

of how you got to where you get,
you start to look at that shit,

it just starts
to make more sense.

Like, look at the world
of surroundings,

you know what I mean?
Like, that's a dope-ass story.

-Mm-hmm.
-Strangers.

These are strangers going in

for the same part
that your mother's going in to,

but, hey, that hustle
makes you do whatever you can.

At the moment,
it all makes sense.

"Watch my baby.
I'll be right back out, please."

-Well, I wouldn't necessarily
say strangers.

Like, in the acting
and the video vixen world,

like she told me,

you would regularly see people
she would audition with.

-Okay.
-Mm-hmm.

-And those people
ended up becoming your friends?

-Well, her friends.
-Not your friends?

-No.
-I like it, though.

I like it. I'm here for it.

So, that's where you got the
acting bug,

growing as you do it.

You love it.
-Mm-hmm.

-Was that, like, something
that just came your way?

Did you audition for it?

Was there a call out to you?
How did that come about?

-So they asked me if I wanted
the part

because it fit my lifestyle.

It was a musician.
-Mm-hmm.

-However, they said
it was just for one episode,

but I did so well,
they called me back for two.

-Look at you. Talking shit.
-Mm-hmm.

-Our Miss Humble over here.
-What?

-You see this over here?

Old Miss Humble over here.

"I did so well,
they called me back for two."

I mean, Jesus Christ,
Jesus Christ.

You know, on that note,
how about we take a break

so we can calm
this one's head down?

Jesus Christ. We'll be back with
more "Hart to Heart".

-Can I get a refill?
-Yes, you can.

We have more
"Hart to Heart" after this.

We'll be right back.

So funny.
They coming back for more.

Oh, Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.

**

**

-And we are back. We are back
here on "Hart to Heart".

And I'm still here with
Saweetie.

And yes, she's eating,
you know, no shocker.

She's been eating
during a whole break.

And won't stop.
It won't stop.

I haven't touched any of this.
None of it.

I'm sorry.
I just wanted people to know.

-You have some...
-What is it? That's gray hair.

-Oh.
-Motherfucker.

Oh, God damn it. Is it bad,
guys? Guys, is it bad?

Get it...

Jesus.
Low blow. That is a low blow.

Well played.

Well played. See what she did?
Anybody see what she did there?

Tried to make it look like
she was helping me,

when, in fact, she just put me
down, didn't she?

Hurt
my goddamn confidence.

Whoo!
We just took a break,

so we can't take another break,
can we?

I got to see that.

Let's get into
the world of astrology.

Every time we take a break,
you keep telling me,

"Stop acting
like a cancer," right?

This goes more into the world
of understanding self,

people, reading
people, expectations.

Is this like
a real thing for you?

-Like, in what way?
-Are you, like,

one of those people
that live by it?

Like, what are you?
What's your sign?

-I'm a my cancer.
-You are a cancer?

-Mm-hmm.
-When's your birthday?

-July 2nd.
-I'm July 6th.

-I know.

-You don't think that something
you should have fucking said?

-I did my research.
-So you don't think I did?

-So then you would have known.
-Goddamn it.

Nobody wanted to tell me that we
had a birthday four days apart?

Joey?

You did, didn't you?
Yeah, I'm sorry, Joey. You did.

Four days apart.
Holy shit. That's actually big.

Now I get it.
I understand it now.

I get the go-get.
I get the hustle.

I get, like, the want
for more now. I understand.

That may be, like, our thing.
That's a cancer thing.

-Mm-hmm.
-What are our flaws as cancers?

-Well, I heard --

-No, I don't want to know what
you heard. Like, what --

-No, because I'm
an unconventional cancer.

-What does that mean?

-Like, these don't apply to me.
[ Laughs ]

-What? Okay, give me
what you've heard.

-Like, allegedly,
we're emotional.

Are you emotional?
-I'm not emotional.

I'm a thug.

I'm a fucking thug,
-[ Laughs ]

-Why is that the biggest laugh?
Hold on.

No, no, I'm serious.
Wait a second.

Why is that the big laugh
that you've had

since you've been here?

I'm a fucking thug.
You don't see my goddamn arms?

Okay. All right, well,
I'll cut that out.

That was too hard of a laugh.
Go ahead. Emotional?

I'm not emotional at all.
I don't think I'm emotional.

I mean,
I get a little upset sometimes.

I cry a little bit,
but I'm not like,

every day.

Like, twice a week,
a good cry is good.

Just let it out.
That's about it.

-Mm-hmm.

-And I don't like people to say
mean stuff.

-[ Laughs ]

-All right.
What else are we? We emotional.

-We're big lovers.
-That's true.

-We're very empathetic.

-If I didn't know
what that meant,

let's just define it.

-You know, we can
sense people's emotions.

-Got it.
Yeah, I do that all the time.

-I can sense that.
-Mm-hmm.

-And that's pretty much us.

-We got big hearts.
-I got a big --

My name is Kevin Hart.
-Oh, yeah. I know.

-Kevin Hart.
I have a very big heart.

No, no. We love heart.
We love heart.

You know, one thing that I
definitely can say that we are,

and I know this
from other cancers, too --

we want to see
other people happy.

-Even if it drains
all our energy.

-Ah.

Now it's clicking.
-Mm-hmm.

-You feel like you give
a lot of yourself?

Mm. I can relate. I can relate.

-I don't want nothing in return.

I don't care if you say
thank you.

-I can relate.

-It's just like,
I want to see you shine.

And you feel like at times,
that's not received?

i don't feel like
it's reciprocated.

-Ooh.

Ooh.
-To reciprocation.

-Okay. To reciprocation.
-Mm-hmm.

-So the only reason why I asked
you the question

about
in front of people versus not,

because that's the only thing
that you actually can control,

is, "Who I want to be aware of
who I decide to love

and when I decide love,

and is the public thing
my cup of tea or is it not?"

-You are absolutely right.
And you know what?

When I was in my
self-reflection --

So I don't check social media
like that not more.

If you live for the Internet,
if you live with social media,

you'll die by social media.

-Okay.
-So that's why

I stopped checking for stuff.

-I'm going to break it down,
and I'm going to get --

I'm going to get
much more simple.

Want to dumb it down.

You just gave a great,
detailed version of --

-Dumb it down for me.
-I'm going to dumb it down.

-Come on. For dummies.

-Not for dummies,
but just watch this.

Just look at the simplicity.
-No, but, like, the books.

-Okay.
-You know.

-If you don't cut your phone on,

you go about your day,

that day is going to be so great

because you're making
the decision

to just have a good day, right?

Go to a market,
you'll get coffee,

you go sit down and eat,
drink with your friends,

chill, watch TV, whatever it is,
you're not bothered by anything.

-Right.
-Because the thing that presents

the problems that make you
feel like so much else

is happening
and so much more is going on,

you've made the decision
to put away.

You control that thing.

Nothing can get to you if you
don't want it to get to you.

So social media
and the world of it,

it only presents problems
to those

that allow the problems
to infiltrate their bubble.

So if I choose to take this
and put it down...

-Mm-hmm.
-...there is no problem.

I have no idea what's going on

because I've chose
to not invest in that thing.

-Mm-hmm.
-So when you say, "Yeah,

I don't really deal
with it anymore,"

it's not that difficult
of a thing.

-Well, it takes 21 days
to break a habit,

and as somebody
who checked her phone every day,

I caught myself a lot.

Just not conscious about me
going to Instagram or Twitter,

to a social media network.

Like, I wouldn't even be
thinking I would end up there.

Like, that's how much
my body was programmed.

So I'm trying to download,
you know, just new habits.

-I forgot who I was talking
to on here,

and I told them,
I was just saying,

there's a timer,
there's a screen time timer,

right?
-Mm-hmm.

-So if you really want
to control it, go to settings,

and you go to the apps,
whether it's Instagram,

Twitter, or Facebook,
whatever it is,

and you have an amount
of time that you a lot

for yourself to be on it.

So if it's something that you
really want to hammer down

and bunker down on and not do,

put a timer on it.
-I like that.

-Give it an hour, hour and
a half of your time,

and it's fun and it's whatever.

But that's it.
Has no effect over your reality,

your real, your creativity
of now.

You're able to do so much more.

And a little bit by a little.
A little bit by a little.

That's my one piece of
information that I'll give you.

Not advice.
Information.

See that? That's good shit,

-Look at you.
-Look at that.

-I know that's right.
-I know that's right.

Eat your cheese.
Eat your fucking cheese.

We're gonna take one more break.

Goddamn, it' getting
really deep here

on "Hart to Heart".

When we come back, guess what?

This won't be here.
She would have probably

devoured it
over the course of that break.

We got more "Hart to Heart"
when we get back after this.

**

**

-We are back.
Guys, this is "Hart to Heart".

And I'm still here with
Saweetie.

I like to say, "Sa-weetie".
You know why I say like that?

Simply because we're having
such a great conversation

and we're comfortable,

The more comfortable you get,
the more engaged you get,

and we've talked about
everything.

Goddamn it,
let's go from the top.

We talked about, I mean,
not only where you were from,

we talked about where you went.

After realizing where you went,

we talked about your family,
your upbringing,

and the reason for why
you are the way you are.

As we approach
the end of the show,

I got to now talk to you
about the now,

right, and in the now,
this new version of you,

well, it's present.
We're in a new year,

and it seems as if there
will be a new you.

This new you.
-I wouldn't say "new".

I would say "elevated".
-Elevated. Correction.

-Yes.
-An elevated version of you.

What are the priorities
for you in this year?

-The priorities is establishing
my media company,

creating the infrastructure
for it,

and recording this album.

-Priorities.
-Definitely.

-Acting?
-Acting. Absolutely.

-Absolutely. Got to throw
one more in there.

because you were so good.

Remember?
You reminded me of that.

You were so good, they brought
you back again.

Very humble, you are.
-Look at you. Come on, memory.

-[ Sighs ]
-[ Laughs ]

-I will say,

I very much am a fan
of my fellow entertainers.

Male, female. It doesn't matter.
I love to see people succeed.

And in talking to you today,

I just like the fact
that you're not afraid to talk.

You're not afraid
to be yourself.

And in being yourself,
I told you early on,

it presents the opportunity
for so much more, right?

Partnerships, brands,
involvement.

More importantly,
your growth is happening

right in front of your fans'
eyes.

They're seeing you
become a superstar, right?

And this superstar,
it's not going to die down.

It's only going to get bigger.
It's only going to become more.

So, I love the fact
that you're checking yourself,

you're trying
to gain more control,

and it's going to pay off.
You know, there's value in that.

And there's a great example
in that, not just for myself,

for other entertainers as well.

You know, I think checking in
and making sure

that I'm mentally strong
is what we need to prioritize.

And I love
that you're doing that.

I want to congratulate you

on all your success
that you've had.

And I want to say that,
you know, your dark days,

well, they could
have been the darkest.

So let's focus on the ones
that seem to be

full of nothing but light,
bright sunshine, success ahead.

Okay? You're dope as fuck, man.
Cheers.

-Wait, hold on.
-Oh, God.

-Hold on.
I got something to say, too.

[ Laughs ]

-About my gray hair again?

Is it about my gray hair again?

-So the reason why I was
laughing so much

is I've been a fan
for a really long time.

Like, I watched
all your standup comedies.

I watch all your Netflix....

projects.
-Specials, things.

-Specials.

I watched "True Story".

I binge watched it while
I was getting my nails done.

And, like, some of the
expressions you make are some --

-It's real. See, it's real

-The expressions
you make on your TV shows,

your standups,
and it's been such a pleasure.

-This is dope as fuck.

I told you, it going to be
a great conversation.

-I know it is,
but it's just crazy,

because from seeing you
on screen to seeing you

in real life, it's like,
you're the same person.

-But I'm taller.
I'm taller, right?

I think that's the one big
takeaway, because I'm taller.

So, in knowing that,

I think that's the biggest thing
for people out there

to realize, is that in person,
I'm a lot taller.

-Absolutely. Yeah.

-That's what you were going to
say.

-No lies.
-Yeah.

-So cheers to just understanding
my height in real life.

-Cheers.
-It's much better.

Maybe we get a close-up
of my shoulders.

Maybe.
Just a push-in.

Yeah, just kind of make
that thing make sense.

Guys, this is "Hart to Heart".

You can't have a "Hart to Heart"
without good people.

And what we found today is that
cancers are some of the best.

-I know that's right.
-I know that's right.

July 2nd, July 6th.

Thank you so much
for coming on this show, girl.

You were absolutely amazing,
stunning.

I hope you guys walked away
with a better definition

than what you thought you had,

because this person is
so much more.

You're the shit. Hmm?

-You are, too.
-Oh.

And that's a wrap! Yes!
-Whoo!

**

-There's a little motto
that I love. It's called,

If it ain't broke, don't fix
it." It's very true.

Because most of the stuff
that you want to fix,

well, the shut is broke.

Some stuff
just isn't fixable.

That's why I love
the saying.

Some stuff,
you just got to leave it.

Leave it alone,
to be honest with you.

You got to say, "Fuck it."

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