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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,785 --> 00:00:04,743 - Who was Jesus? 2 00:00:04,874 --> 00:00:08,399 Is he a historical character? 3 00:00:08,530 --> 00:00:11,054 Who wrote the gospels? 4 00:00:11,185 --> 00:00:14,231 Why are they written in Greek? 5 00:00:14,362 --> 00:00:17,104 Why did they have a pro-Romanperspective? 6 00:00:17,234 --> 00:00:20,629 Why was the religion headquartered in Rome? 7 00:00:20,759 --> 00:00:25,286 Those were the mysteriesthat I saw about the gospels. 8 00:00:25,416 --> 00:00:27,375 - [voiceover] The originof the Christian religion 9 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:33,598 has been a subject steep inmystery for nearly 2,000 years. 10 00:00:33,729 --> 00:00:39,604 [curious music] 11 00:00:39,735 --> 00:00:42,042 Joseph Atwell is one of the number of scholars 12 00:00:42,172 --> 00:00:44,435 today from all around the worldwho are 13 00:00:44,566 --> 00:00:46,655 questioning the historic facts 14 00:00:46,785 --> 00:00:50,224 behind these ancient mysteries. 15 00:00:50,354 --> 00:00:53,096 When examining the actualhistory of this era, 16 00:00:53,227 --> 00:00:56,143 many of the answers providedby the church and Christian 17 00:00:56,273 --> 00:01:01,017 scholars do not hold up to rigorous scrutiny. 18 00:01:01,148 --> 00:01:04,194 - This is reallyimportant for our culture, 19 00:01:04,325 --> 00:01:07,719 to understand where Christianity came from. 20 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:09,156 - [voiceover] No doubt, Christians have done 21 00:01:09,286 --> 00:01:10,679 a lot of good for the world, 22 00:01:10,809 --> 00:01:13,203 but then there are other Christians, 23 00:01:13,334 --> 00:01:17,990 often the most dogmatic, whocreate war... 24 00:01:18,121 --> 00:01:24,736 Hatred, and other harm underthe disguise of religion. 25 00:01:24,867 --> 00:01:27,087 In studying how Christianityemerged, 26 00:01:27,217 --> 00:01:29,480 many of our scholars agreed that it was used 27 00:01:29,611 --> 00:01:33,354 as a political tool tocontrol the masses of the day, 28 00:01:33,484 --> 00:01:38,009 and it is still being used this way today. 29 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,926 - The problem is thatChristianity has been used 30 00:01:41,057 --> 00:01:43,668 as a tool by government that uses 31 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:47,281 the goodness in people againstthem. 32 00:01:47,411 --> 00:01:50,152 For example, support forthe wars in the Middle East 33 00:01:50,283 --> 00:01:52,721 has been preached to evangelical Christians 34 00:01:52,851 --> 00:01:57,334 as a way to speed up the end ofdays. 35 00:01:57,465 --> 00:02:00,511 This is just one exampleof the way that propaganda 36 00:02:00,642 --> 00:02:05,037 is used to control and manipulate the populace. 37 00:02:05,168 --> 00:02:07,779 Actually, according to mystudy of the ancient text, 38 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:12,480 the second coming of theChrist has already occurred. 39 00:02:12,610 --> 00:02:14,525 - [voiceover] Maybe weneed to expand the possible 40 00:02:14,656 --> 00:02:17,224 answers about how Christianity originated 41 00:02:17,353 --> 00:02:20,227 and deeper questions need to beasked. 42 00:02:20,357 --> 00:02:22,707 Maybe we need to examine what political motives 43 00:02:22,838 --> 00:02:26,233 were behind the formationof the Christian religion. 44 00:02:26,363 --> 00:02:29,105 - I think it's a requirementof alert citizens 45 00:02:29,236 --> 00:02:32,239 to know how the gospels werewritten, 46 00:02:32,369 --> 00:02:34,980 why they were written, whoproduced them, 47 00:02:35,111 --> 00:02:37,722 what was the purpose and back ofall this? 48 00:02:37,853 --> 00:02:39,333 This is good citizenry. 49 00:02:39,463 --> 00:02:41,683 Everyone should be involved inthis. 50 00:02:41,813 --> 00:02:44,207 - [voiceover] Today, we liveon the brink of an immense 51 00:02:44,338 --> 00:02:47,123 paradigm shift, and this moderntime 52 00:02:47,254 --> 00:02:52,128 is very parallel to the erain which Christianity emerged. 53 00:02:52,259 --> 00:02:55,436 Studying this ancient eracan give us the perspective 54 00:02:55,566 --> 00:02:59,179 needed for coming up withsolutions to today's problems, 55 00:02:59,309 --> 00:03:05,489 and for helping create a betterworld that we envisioned. 56 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:39,305 [triumphant music] 57 00:03:39,436 --> 00:03:40,829 - And the penny dropped, thepenny dropped 58 00:03:40,959 --> 00:03:45,790 that Jesus as a human beingnever existed. 59 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:48,315 - The presentation of the Jesuscharacter 60 00:03:48,445 --> 00:03:50,447 it's somewhat of a composite 61 00:03:50,578 --> 00:03:55,278 of many Messianic leaders of thetime. 62 00:03:55,409 --> 00:03:56,888 - Well, it's just that'sback to the drawing board, 63 00:03:57,019 --> 00:03:59,587 and we'll leave aside all of the assumptions 64 00:03:59,716 --> 00:04:01,937 of Christian history and let's just look at 65 00:04:02,067 --> 00:04:05,593 the texts afresh andconsider every possibility. 66 00:04:05,723 --> 00:04:08,552 Let's open the whole game up. 67 00:04:08,683 --> 00:04:10,162 - Can you think that Christianity is really 68 00:04:10,293 --> 00:04:13,296 Paganism by a different name? 69 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:16,430 Now, it feels completely obvious. 70 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:21,043 - Some of us are saying that this was a sun god 71 00:04:21,173 --> 00:04:24,481 turned into a Jewish man. 72 00:04:24,612 --> 00:04:26,918 - In all of this, we're dealing with literature. 73 00:04:27,049 --> 00:04:28,964 We're not dealing with history. 74 00:04:29,094 --> 00:04:32,837 So the answer is no, there is nohistory 75 00:04:32,968 --> 00:04:34,448 to this character, Jesus. 76 00:04:34,578 --> 00:04:37,320 It's entirely a literary creation. 77 00:04:37,451 --> 00:04:39,453 - [voiceover] Some of ourBible scholars are mavericks, 78 00:04:39,582 --> 00:04:41,933 working outside the restrictionsof 79 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:44,675 mainstream religious institutions. 80 00:04:44,806 --> 00:04:48,200 This allows them the freedomto provide fresh insights 81 00:04:48,331 --> 00:04:51,334 and draw from startling conclusions about how 82 00:04:51,465 --> 00:05:00,082 Christianity was born. 83 00:05:00,212 --> 00:05:03,128 - I began reading a numberof books on the subject. 84 00:05:03,259 --> 00:05:06,131 This turned into a decade-longresearch. 85 00:05:06,262 --> 00:05:08,133 - [voiceover] For Joseph Atwill, the key was in 86 00:05:08,264 --> 00:05:11,659 the Dead Sea Scrolls, theonly Jewish literature 87 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:16,316 ever discovered from the first century AD or CE, 88 00:05:16,446 --> 00:05:20,058 the time that Jesus would'vebeen preaching among the Jews. 89 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:24,933 - The characters in the DeadSea Scrolls were militaristic, 90 00:05:25,063 --> 00:05:27,327 and you could see that this movement wanted 91 00:05:27,457 --> 00:05:29,764 to push the foreigners out ofIsrael. 92 00:05:29,894 --> 00:05:32,810 They were fundamentalists,whereas the characters 93 00:05:32,941 --> 00:05:34,334 in the gospel are different. 94 00:05:34,464 --> 00:05:35,813 They are pacifistic. 95 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:38,207 They are turning the othercheek. 96 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:40,601 They're giving to Caesar what isCaesar's. 97 00:05:40,731 --> 00:05:44,256 How did a movement like Christianity 98 00:05:44,387 --> 00:05:48,783 come to exist in a region that was occupied 99 00:05:48,913 --> 00:05:52,917 by Roman soldiers and hadJewish zealots within it 100 00:05:53,048 --> 00:05:56,181 that were going to push theseRomans out? 101 00:05:56,312 --> 00:06:00,316 How was that possible? 102 00:06:00,447 --> 00:06:03,319 I began studying the othertwo major works of the era: 103 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:07,410 The New Testament and Warsof the Jews by Josephus, 104 00:06:07,541 --> 00:06:09,978 a Roman court historian who described the war 105 00:06:10,108 --> 00:06:13,677 between the Romans and theJews in the first century. 106 00:06:13,808 --> 00:06:16,114 While reading these works sideby side, 107 00:06:16,245 --> 00:06:19,509 I noticed an amazing connection between them. 108 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,468 Certain events from the ministryof Jesus 109 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:23,818 seemed to closely parallelepisodes from 110 00:06:23,948 --> 00:06:27,778 the military campaign ofRoman Caesar Titus Flavius, 111 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:30,651 a campaign which took place 40 years 112 00:06:30,781 --> 00:06:33,784 after Jesus supposedly lived. 113 00:06:33,915 --> 00:06:36,483 My efforts to understand these connections led me 114 00:06:36,613 --> 00:06:39,311 to an incredible discovery. 115 00:06:39,442 --> 00:06:41,662 Christianity had beeninvented by a little known 116 00:06:41,792 --> 00:06:46,493 family of Roman Caesars, the Flavians. 117 00:06:46,623 --> 00:06:54,109 And they left us documents toprove it. 118 00:06:54,239 --> 00:06:56,633 - The Flavians are not a household name, 119 00:06:56,764 --> 00:06:59,723 and yet it's the Flavians who 120 00:06:59,854 --> 00:07:04,336 completely reshaped the RomanEmpire. 121 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:07,557 In Rome, of course, there's theColosseum, 122 00:07:07,688 --> 00:07:10,038 which is understood to bethe best known monument 123 00:07:10,168 --> 00:07:12,823 of the Ancient Roman Empire,perhaps. 124 00:07:12,954 --> 00:07:15,609 The Coliseum is, in fact,a Flavian construction 125 00:07:15,739 --> 00:07:18,525 produced during the FlavianPeriod. 126 00:07:18,655 --> 00:07:21,876 It's under the Flaviansthat both Rabbinic Judaism 127 00:07:22,006 --> 00:07:26,315 and Christianity take shape. 128 00:07:26,446 --> 00:07:27,534 - [voiceover] Why would the Flavians 129 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:30,275 be interested in creatingreligion? 130 00:07:30,406 --> 00:07:33,365 Much like today, their era wasmarked by 131 00:07:33,496 --> 00:07:37,152 political power struggles,a bankrupt economy, 132 00:07:37,282 --> 00:07:41,286 religious conflicts and endlesswars. 133 00:07:41,417 --> 00:07:43,767 In the midst of this turmoil,the Flavians 134 00:07:43,898 --> 00:07:47,379 seized control of theRoman Empire and ushered in 135 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:51,209 an immense paradigm shift. 136 00:07:51,340 --> 00:07:53,864 To understand the Flavian's rise to power, 137 00:07:53,995 --> 00:07:55,562 we need to go back to the reign 138 00:07:55,692 --> 00:07:58,042 of the previous powerful rulers, 139 00:07:58,173 --> 00:08:02,090 the Julio-Claudian Dynasty. 140 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:06,007 Beginning with JuliusCaesar in the year 49 BCE, 141 00:08:06,137 --> 00:08:10,054 the Julio-Claudians ruled Rome for over 100 years, 142 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:15,712 transforming the governmentfrom a Republic into an empire. 143 00:08:15,843 --> 00:08:18,498 This family contained all the famous Caesars. 144 00:08:18,628 --> 00:08:21,501 Julius, who predated the time ofJesus, 145 00:08:21,631 --> 00:08:24,112 Augustus who was Caesar at thetime of 146 00:08:24,242 --> 00:08:26,854 Jesus's supposed birth, Tiberius, 147 00:08:26,984 --> 00:08:29,900 who ruled during Jesus's supposed death, 148 00:08:30,031 --> 00:08:33,687 followed by the infamous Caligula. 149 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:37,647 Then Claudius and endingthe Julio-Claudian dynasty 150 00:08:37,778 --> 00:08:43,784 with Nero, whose reign begins in 54 CE. 151 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:47,265 - The Julio-Claudiansenjoyed a god-like status. 152 00:08:47,396 --> 00:08:49,224 Until the family degenerated 153 00:08:49,354 --> 00:08:52,314 and began to damage the Roman Empire. 154 00:08:52,444 --> 00:08:53,707 - [voiceover] By the time ofNero, 155 00:08:53,837 --> 00:08:56,318 his famous decadence was bankrupting the empire, 156 00:08:56,448 --> 00:09:00,191 and the Jews of Judea werestaging a huge rebellion 157 00:09:00,322 --> 00:09:02,585 against their Roman rulers. 158 00:09:02,716 --> 00:09:04,979 - Judea was one of the many conquered provinces 159 00:09:05,109 --> 00:09:06,981 that made up the Roman Empire. 160 00:09:07,111 --> 00:09:09,810 This region, which was also known as Palestine, 161 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:13,204 was controlled by a family thatserved as 162 00:09:13,335 --> 00:09:16,991 Rome's tax collector, TheHerods. 163 00:09:17,121 --> 00:09:20,864 - They were a Greco-Arabfamily, somewhat possibly 164 00:09:20,995 --> 00:09:23,127 judiais, though only judiais 165 00:09:23,258 --> 00:09:25,826 when it was convenient to please the subjects 166 00:09:25,956 --> 00:09:29,220 they were given who wereput in power in Palestine 167 00:09:29,351 --> 00:09:32,223 and destroyed the previous Jewish-ruling family, 168 00:09:32,354 --> 00:09:35,575 the Maccabean family, root andstump. 169 00:09:35,705 --> 00:09:37,185 - [voiceover] Besides beingheavily taxed 170 00:09:37,315 --> 00:09:41,058 and ruled by a non-Jewishfamily put in power by Rome, 171 00:09:41,189 --> 00:09:44,192 the Jews were furtherinflamed by the requirement 172 00:09:44,322 --> 00:09:47,587 that a statue of the Caesar be placed for worship 173 00:09:47,717 --> 00:09:51,591 in every temple throughout theempire. 174 00:09:51,721 --> 00:09:55,595 - In the Roman Empire,you could pretty much have 175 00:09:55,725 --> 00:10:00,991 any god you want, butlegally, you had to submit to 176 00:10:01,122 --> 00:10:03,690 the emperor as a god as well. 177 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:06,606 You had to at least acknowledge that 178 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:10,784 the Roman leader was also adivine figure. 179 00:10:10,914 --> 00:10:13,700 But the Jews would not have anyof it. 180 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:15,789 - It's fundamental to Jewishbelief that you shall make 181 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:16,877 no graven images. 182 00:10:17,007 --> 00:10:19,183 It's one of the commandments and 183 00:10:19,314 --> 00:10:21,925 given a sign by God. 184 00:10:22,056 --> 00:10:24,972 So the Jews never made representations of God. 185 00:10:25,102 --> 00:10:28,758 - The Jews had a verydifferent type of religion. 186 00:10:28,889 --> 00:10:30,586 They had a religion which was much more focused 187 00:10:30,717 --> 00:10:36,374 on the book, and lessfocused upon cultic statues. 188 00:10:36,505 --> 00:10:38,550 This presented a real problems for the Romans. 189 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:42,772 They tried to install statues ofCaesar, 190 00:10:42,903 --> 00:10:45,383 but the Jews weren'tgoing to buy that at all. 191 00:10:45,514 --> 00:10:47,298 In fact, it aggravated them. 192 00:10:47,429 --> 00:10:50,432 It enraged them, and the Romans really are, 193 00:10:50,562 --> 00:10:52,347 I think, didn't understand this. 194 00:10:52,477 --> 00:10:53,478 It's not statues. 195 00:10:53,609 --> 00:10:55,263 It's books. 196 00:10:55,393 --> 00:10:57,482 - [voiceover] And those bookscontained what are known 197 00:10:57,613 --> 00:11:01,225 as the Jewish Messianic prophecies. 198 00:11:01,356 --> 00:11:02,879 - The thing that most moved theJews' 199 00:11:03,010 --> 00:11:05,621 revolt against Rome was an obscure prophecy 200 00:11:05,752 --> 00:11:08,319 from among their writingsthat a world ruler 201 00:11:08,450 --> 00:11:10,626 would come out of Palestine. 202 00:11:10,757 --> 00:11:13,890 - Holy books inspired the Jewsto expect 203 00:11:14,021 --> 00:11:17,894 a redeemer who would redeemIsrael, rescue Israel, 204 00:11:18,025 --> 00:11:21,811 restore Israel to power andleadership in the world. 205 00:11:21,942 --> 00:11:23,813 - The messiah that the literature described 206 00:11:23,944 --> 00:11:25,728 was a warrior. 207 00:11:25,859 --> 00:11:29,732 The messiahs would haveclaimed the same attributes 208 00:11:29,863 --> 00:11:31,473 the same attributes that David did. 209 00:11:31,603 --> 00:11:34,345 David could overcome any armybecause 210 00:11:34,476 --> 00:11:37,392 God gave him the power to do it. 211 00:11:37,522 --> 00:11:40,308 If you had the power of God, 212 00:11:40,438 --> 00:11:44,181 you could easily defeat theRoman army. 213 00:11:44,312 --> 00:11:45,966 The people rebelled against Rome 214 00:11:46,096 --> 00:11:48,882 and were led by a Messianicmovement that 215 00:11:49,012 --> 00:11:51,667 had a series of messiahs that had come forward 216 00:11:51,798 --> 00:11:53,974 to fight against the RomanEmpire. 217 00:11:54,104 --> 00:11:55,366 - [voiceover] The Hebrew wordMessiah 218 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:58,848 is translated into Greek as Kristos, or Christ. 219 00:11:58,979 --> 00:12:01,198 So the title of Christ candescribe any 220 00:12:01,329 --> 00:12:04,724 of the numerous messiahs of thismovement. 221 00:12:04,854 --> 00:12:06,813 - Yes, the word Christ orChristians 222 00:12:06,943 --> 00:12:11,774 can refer to the PalestineMessianic movement, 223 00:12:11,905 --> 00:12:15,778 but it's a later term,it's a later reformulation 224 00:12:15,909 --> 00:12:18,259 of the Messianic movement of Palestine. 225 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:20,130 - [joseph] This movement rebels against Rome 226 00:12:20,261 --> 00:12:22,698 in 66 and is successful. 227 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:24,613 It actually defeats them militarily. 228 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:27,007 So it must've been a hugemovement. 229 00:12:27,137 --> 00:12:30,053 The victorious Jews set up anation state 230 00:12:30,184 --> 00:12:33,230 directly in the Roman Empire. 231 00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:35,058 - And the Romans had to do something about it. 232 00:12:35,189 --> 00:12:37,713 There was a real dangerthat this Messianic movement 233 00:12:37,844 --> 00:12:41,108 could not only boil over into Judea itself, 234 00:12:41,238 --> 00:12:43,806 but could spread to other Jewish communities 235 00:12:43,937 --> 00:12:46,287 in other parts of the RomanEmpire. 236 00:12:46,417 --> 00:12:49,420 - Rome ruled its colonieswith a rod of iron, 237 00:12:49,551 --> 00:12:54,861 and any resistance was goingto be met with brute force. 238 00:12:54,991 --> 00:12:57,341 - [voiceover] At this timeduring Nero's reign, two of the 239 00:12:57,472 --> 00:13:01,041 finest military men in theempire with the Flavians: 240 00:13:01,171 --> 00:13:03,783 Vespasian and son Titus. 241 00:13:03,913 --> 00:13:06,002 - [joseph] Vespasian and Titus were military men. 242 00:13:06,133 --> 00:13:09,614 They spent a great deal oftheir life outside of Rome. 243 00:13:09,745 --> 00:13:12,139 For over a decade, they hadwaged war 244 00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:17,797 against the druids in Brittanyand Gaul. 245 00:13:17,927 --> 00:13:20,408 Vespasian and Titus were successful 246 00:13:20,538 --> 00:13:22,845 in essentially destroying thedruids. 247 00:13:22,976 --> 00:13:28,546 They left behind no historicalrecord of their existence. 248 00:13:28,677 --> 00:13:30,113 - [voiceover] And it's the Flavians who Nero 249 00:13:30,244 --> 00:13:31,898 calls upon when he needs to 250 00:13:32,028 --> 00:13:35,423 suppress the Jew's rebellion inJudea. 251 00:13:35,553 --> 00:13:38,948 - Nero responded byasking his best generals, 252 00:13:39,079 --> 00:13:43,605 Vespasians and his son Titus to go into Judea 253 00:13:43,735 --> 00:13:47,348 with a huge army, 60, 70,000troops, 254 00:13:47,478 --> 00:13:50,351 and a similar number of supporting individuals. 255 00:13:50,481 --> 00:13:51,743 So they meant business. 256 00:13:51,874 --> 00:13:54,181 The Romans came down to crush the rebellion. 257 00:13:54,311 --> 00:13:57,358 - [voiceover] In the year 66 CE, the Flavians 258 00:13:57,488 --> 00:14:00,796 begin their militarycampaign against the Jews. 259 00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:03,146 They start further north in Galilee, 260 00:14:03,277 --> 00:14:07,107 where the first of three key events takes place. 261 00:14:07,237 --> 00:14:10,893 They destroy the Jewish town ofGalilee. 262 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:13,374 They also captured a Jewishrebel, 263 00:14:13,504 --> 00:14:15,332 who later becomes a criticalfigure 264 00:14:15,463 --> 00:14:18,118 in the formulation of Christianity. 265 00:14:18,248 --> 00:14:20,903 - This is where theycaptured one of the leaders 266 00:14:21,034 --> 00:14:25,865 of the rebellion, a Jewnamed Josephus Bar Mathias. 267 00:14:25,995 --> 00:14:31,348 Now Josephus presented himselfto the Flavians as a prophet. 268 00:14:31,479 --> 00:14:32,784 - He survived. 269 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:35,875 He survived apparently by telling Vespasian 270 00:14:36,005 --> 00:14:38,268 that the prophecies of the Jews pointed out 271 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,793 that Vespasian would becomeemperor, and of course he did, 272 00:14:41,924 --> 00:14:44,448 so Vespasian quite liked Josephus. 273 00:14:44,579 --> 00:14:49,105 He used him as a translatorin his entourage. 274 00:14:49,236 --> 00:14:52,413 He used him to appeal to the rebels to surrender. 275 00:14:52,543 --> 00:14:54,676 - At this point, Josephusbecame a turncoat, 276 00:14:54,806 --> 00:14:59,899 and worked with the Flaviansagainst the rebellion. 277 00:15:00,029 --> 00:15:02,945 - [voiceover] Meanwhile, chaosis increasing back in Rome, 278 00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:06,906 where Nero's rule is beingthreatened. 279 00:15:07,036 --> 00:15:09,996 - In the year 68, the senate found the courage 280 00:15:10,126 --> 00:15:13,347 to depose Nero and he committedsuicide. 281 00:15:13,477 --> 00:15:17,264 Now in that circumstance,Vespasian was 282 00:15:17,394 --> 00:15:20,136 a prime candidate to becomeemperor. 283 00:15:20,267 --> 00:15:22,095 - [joseph] In the middle of thiswar, 284 00:15:22,225 --> 00:15:26,751 Vespasian returned to Romeand seized the throne. 285 00:15:26,882 --> 00:15:30,407 The Flavians then became the imperial family. 286 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:32,148 - [voiceover] WithVespasian becoming the new 287 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:35,543 Caesar in Rome, Titus staysbehind on the battlefield 288 00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:38,285 and sets his sights on Jerusalem, 289 00:15:38,415 --> 00:15:41,375 where the other two key eventstake place. 290 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:44,900 Titus encircles Jerusalemat the wall, and finally, 291 00:15:45,031 --> 00:15:50,471 he razes the temple leavingnot one stone atop another. 292 00:15:50,601 --> 00:15:51,863 - It took a while. 293 00:15:51,994 --> 00:15:54,388 They eventually had to bring onstarvation 294 00:15:54,518 --> 00:15:58,522 by building a wall, a barricadeentirely 295 00:15:58,653 --> 00:16:00,742 enveloped in the city. 296 00:16:00,872 --> 00:16:02,613 - What happens, of course, isthe temple, 297 00:16:02,744 --> 00:16:07,270 in 70, is completely destroyed. 298 00:16:07,401 --> 00:16:09,838 - For the Jews, it was the ultimate calamity 299 00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,275 because, of course, thiswas the house of their god, 300 00:16:12,406 --> 00:16:16,366 and it was destroyed by the Romans quite thoroughly. 301 00:16:16,497 --> 00:16:20,327 Titus, of course, was thevictor of this great siege. 302 00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:24,113 Titus carried the spoils of this captured city 303 00:16:24,244 --> 00:16:26,289 back to Rome for his triumph. 304 00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:28,509 He took the treasures of thetemple, 305 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:31,642 their famous seven branchcandlestick. 306 00:16:31,773 --> 00:16:35,168 You could see it on the Arch of Titus in Rome. 307 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:37,953 It celebrates that tremendousvictory 308 00:16:38,084 --> 00:16:41,565 of Rome, again, triumphantand Titus, of course, 309 00:16:41,696 --> 00:16:45,178 is the hero of the day. 310 00:16:45,308 --> 00:16:49,269 [triumphant music] 311 00:16:49,399 --> 00:16:52,315 - All of the artifacts from thetemple 312 00:16:52,446 --> 00:16:55,449 that they seized, they put on public display 313 00:16:55,579 --> 00:16:59,148 in what to they refer to as the Palace of Peace, 314 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,457 except for one item, the Jewishscripture. 315 00:17:03,587 --> 00:17:06,415 Josephus records that theFlavians took 316 00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:09,157 and placed in their privatepalace, 317 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:13,989 where no one was allowed to seeit. 318 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,295 - [voiceover] Although TitusFlavius 319 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:18,166 successfully ended the rebellionin Judea, 320 00:17:18,298 --> 00:17:21,910 another rebellion soon brokeout in Alexandria, Egypt. 321 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,868 The Flavians were clearthat this was not the end 322 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,523 of the Jewish Messianic movement. 323 00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:30,136 They also recognized thatit was the Jews' Messianic 324 00:17:30,266 --> 00:17:34,140 literature that was fueling thismovement. 325 00:17:34,270 --> 00:17:36,533 So once they captured the Jewish scripture, 326 00:17:36,664 --> 00:17:40,798 they had all other copies of itdestroyed. 327 00:17:40,929 --> 00:17:42,322 - [joseph] And that's why the Dead Sea Scrolls 328 00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,976 had to have been buriedin a cave because that was 329 00:17:45,107 --> 00:17:48,067 the only way it could be safefrom the Roman destruction. 330 00:17:48,197 --> 00:17:51,287 There was not a single scrap of literature 331 00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:53,028 found from the Messianic movement 332 00:17:53,159 --> 00:17:55,248 until the scrolls were discovered. 333 00:17:55,378 --> 00:17:57,250 That's why they're such atreasure because 334 00:17:57,380 --> 00:17:59,165 they're the only real voice 335 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:02,864 of the Messianic movement thatwe have. 336 00:18:02,994 --> 00:18:05,084 - [voiceover] And the realvoice of the Jew's Messianic 337 00:18:05,214 --> 00:18:07,216 movement, according to ourscholars, 338 00:18:07,347 --> 00:18:09,566 was violent and militaristic, 339 00:18:09,697 --> 00:18:14,354 not the pacifistic versiondepicted in the gospels. 340 00:18:14,484 --> 00:18:16,486 - War against Rome was a Messianic war. 341 00:18:16,617 --> 00:18:19,141 So that's why I say that the scrolls are not only 342 00:18:19,272 --> 00:18:21,709 the literature of the Messianicmovement in Palestine, 343 00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:25,147 they're also the literatureof the war against Rome. 344 00:18:25,278 --> 00:18:26,366 - [voiceover] The Romans neededto 345 00:18:26,496 --> 00:18:27,976 subdue the Jes' religion. 346 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:31,849 So they set about influencingit and changing it. 347 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:33,242 - They realized they can'tdestroy 348 00:18:33,373 --> 00:18:35,026 the Jewish religion altogether. 349 00:18:35,157 --> 00:18:36,550 That's not their objective. 350 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,942 They realized, they'resensible enough to realize 351 00:18:38,073 --> 00:18:39,683 that they can't do that. 352 00:18:39,814 --> 00:18:43,470 So what you have to do is tryto create a type of Judaism 353 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:48,475 that is benign and it'sexactly coinciding with the 354 00:18:48,605 --> 00:18:50,955 rise of the Flavian dynasty is the arrival 355 00:18:51,086 --> 00:18:56,613 of two benign forms of Jewishideology. 356 00:18:56,744 --> 00:18:59,138 - [voiceover] It's during thisperiod that a new literature 357 00:18:59,268 --> 00:19:02,228 enters history whichdescribes a peace-loving, 358 00:19:02,358 --> 00:19:04,230 turn the other cheek preaching 359 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:09,017 Jewish messiah named Jesus Christ. 360 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:10,671 But if the Flavians wrote thegospels, 361 00:19:10,801 --> 00:19:13,195 how could a Roman family knowhow to write 362 00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:16,851 Jewish literature thatrefers to Jewish prophecy? 363 00:19:16,981 --> 00:19:19,549 The answer lies in the Flavian's collaborations 364 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,335 with a number of Jewish intellectuals, 365 00:19:22,465 --> 00:19:26,469 beginning with their owncourt historian Josephus. 366 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,037 - Josephus arrives back in Rome with Titus. 367 00:19:29,168 --> 00:19:32,606 He becomes an adopted memberof the Flavian family, 368 00:19:32,736 --> 00:19:37,828 an amazing turn of eventsfor the Jewish turncoat. 369 00:19:37,959 --> 00:19:41,789 He becomes Flavius Josephus. 370 00:19:41,919 --> 00:19:44,748 Josephus, at this time,begins writing the history 371 00:19:44,879 --> 00:19:49,666 of the war, and he records that Titus gave him 372 00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,364 the Jewish scripture. 373 00:19:51,494 --> 00:19:54,018 Josephus's histories has always been associated 374 00:19:54,149 --> 00:19:56,499 with the origins of Christianity. 375 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:58,893 - Time and again you could findparallels 376 00:19:59,023 --> 00:20:01,156 between what Josephus writes 377 00:20:01,287 --> 00:20:03,898 and what turns up in the Gospels. 378 00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:07,467 It's a powerful evidence of their true origin. 379 00:20:07,597 --> 00:20:09,077 - [voiceover] In reading the works of Josephus 380 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:12,341 side-by-side with thegospels, scholars have noticed 381 00:20:12,472 --> 00:20:14,909 parallels between the two works. 382 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:17,346 It appears as though the history of Josephus 383 00:20:17,477 --> 00:20:20,131 records events thatfulfill the prophecies of 384 00:20:20,262 --> 00:20:22,308 the Old and New Testaments. 385 00:20:22,438 --> 00:20:25,659 Early Christiansunderstood this connection. 386 00:20:25,789 --> 00:20:28,227 In fact, when the Biblefirst began to be printed 387 00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:33,057 in the Middle Ages, it included the history of Josephus. 388 00:20:33,188 --> 00:20:34,407 - He was employed to write 389 00:20:34,537 --> 00:20:36,235 the official history that wehave. 390 00:20:36,365 --> 00:20:37,932 The other histories from thisperiod 391 00:20:38,062 --> 00:20:41,588 have been destroyedruthlessly by the Romans. 392 00:20:41,718 --> 00:20:44,417 Josephus tells us thisin very chilling passages 393 00:20:44,547 --> 00:20:47,202 how the Romans exerted complete control 394 00:20:47,333 --> 00:20:48,899 of the literature of thisperiod. 395 00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:51,380 There were alternativehistories of the Jewish war 396 00:20:51,511 --> 00:20:54,253 written while the Romans rounded up the writers 397 00:20:54,383 --> 00:20:58,605 of those histories and executedthem. 398 00:20:58,735 --> 00:21:00,650 They rounded up all the copies 399 00:21:00,781 --> 00:21:03,087 of those histories and destroyedthem. 400 00:21:03,218 --> 00:21:05,525 That is to say they ruthlesslywiped out 401 00:21:05,655 --> 00:21:09,006 any alternative history sothat the only history we have 402 00:21:09,137 --> 00:21:14,055 is written by Josephus, andlet's remember who Josephus was. 403 00:21:14,185 --> 00:21:17,014 - Chief propagandist of the Flavian dynasty. 404 00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:18,146 He was very, very successful. 405 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,843 He moved back to Rome. 406 00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:24,544 He was given an apartment inthe emperor's own townhouse, 407 00:21:24,674 --> 00:21:26,850 and he was appointed the Chronicler 408 00:21:26,981 --> 00:21:28,330 of the Roman Jewish War 409 00:21:28,461 --> 00:21:31,899 using Vespasian's own diaries of the events. 410 00:21:32,029 --> 00:21:33,857 - [voiceover] Also inthe pages of his history, 411 00:21:33,988 --> 00:21:37,078 Josephus declares that the Jew's messiah 412 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:39,254 or Christ is none other than 413 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:43,389 Flavius Vespasian and hisdynastic family. 414 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,652 - To put it succinctly, Josephussays that 415 00:21:45,782 --> 00:21:48,045 there was a prophecy that aworld ruler 416 00:21:48,176 --> 00:21:49,612 would come out of Palestine. 417 00:21:49,743 --> 00:21:52,311 The Jews thought thisapplied to one of their own. 418 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,967 They were wrong in their interpretation. 419 00:21:57,098 --> 00:21:58,665 He uses the most cynical interpretation. 420 00:21:58,795 --> 00:22:00,536 He applied it to the rise 421 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,930 of the Roman Emperor in Palestine. 422 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:06,194 - Josephus recorded that the Messianic prophecies 423 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:11,330 foresaw not a Jew, butVespasian and his dynasty. 424 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:15,682 In fact, all of theFlavian historians recorded 425 00:22:15,812 --> 00:22:21,252 that the Flavian Caesar was the Christ. 426 00:22:21,383 --> 00:22:23,298 - [voiceover] It wasimportant to the Flavians 427 00:22:23,429 --> 00:22:26,345 that they be seen as the Christ, asdivine 428 00:22:26,475 --> 00:22:30,653 and god-like and this was notmere vanity. 429 00:22:30,784 --> 00:22:33,090 The Julio-Cladians before themhad already 430 00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:35,832 established that presentingthemselves as Gods 431 00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:39,967 was a powerful tool incontrolling their subjects. 432 00:22:40,097 --> 00:22:41,882 When the Flavians took over the throne, 433 00:22:42,012 --> 00:22:44,624 they inherited an enormousbureaucracy 434 00:22:44,754 --> 00:22:49,368 that was already inplace, the Imperial Cult, 435 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:52,371 which was dedicated to promoting the idea 436 00:22:52,501 --> 00:22:59,029 of Caesar as a god. 437 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,207 - Another part of the puzzleis the Roman Imperial Cult. 438 00:23:03,338 --> 00:23:04,905 Why is it important? 439 00:23:05,035 --> 00:23:08,256 Well, because it coincideswith that same period of time 440 00:23:08,387 --> 00:23:11,172 as the emergence of the Christcult. 441 00:23:11,302 --> 00:23:13,566 - You had a whole social community, 442 00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:16,264 the whole social structure ofthese conquered territories 443 00:23:16,395 --> 00:23:18,397 was governed by the ImperialCult and 444 00:23:18,527 --> 00:23:21,312 if you wanted to succeed,the key social community 445 00:23:21,443 --> 00:23:23,532 to drive was the Imperial Cultbecause 446 00:23:23,663 --> 00:23:26,056 that's where all themovements and shakers were. 447 00:23:26,187 --> 00:23:30,104 - This idea of the emperorbecoming an object of worship 448 00:23:30,234 --> 00:23:33,412 was well-established in the Roman system 449 00:23:33,542 --> 00:23:36,545 before Vespasian and Titus camealong. 450 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:39,592 It was prevalent in all majorcenters. 451 00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:41,289 It had its own priesthood. 452 00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:44,292 There was a ceremony, an annual celebration, 453 00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:48,078 annual games for the ImperialCult. 454 00:23:48,209 --> 00:23:51,386 Now it had many characteristics 455 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:55,564 which would later color the Christian cult. 456 00:23:55,695 --> 00:23:57,784 It grew in the same centers. 457 00:23:57,914 --> 00:24:01,875 It made claims that werelater transferred to Christ. 458 00:24:02,005 --> 00:24:04,094 - The Julio-Claudians had claimed that they were 459 00:24:04,225 --> 00:24:07,576 of divine descent and that theywere, therefore, legitimate. 460 00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:09,535 Their appeal base was the 461 00:24:09,665 --> 00:24:12,538 Roman aristocracy, the Romannobility. 462 00:24:12,668 --> 00:24:16,716 All of that collapsed into this power vacuum. 463 00:24:16,846 --> 00:24:19,588 Vespesian was declared emperor by the troops, 464 00:24:19,719 --> 00:24:21,851 by the Roman army. 465 00:24:21,982 --> 00:24:25,855 So effectively, it was a military coup. 466 00:24:25,986 --> 00:24:28,945 With the change of dynasty,they have to create 467 00:24:29,076 --> 00:24:32,601 a whole mythology to legitimize that dynasty. 468 00:24:32,732 --> 00:24:34,516 At the same time they're creating a whole 469 00:24:34,647 --> 00:24:38,433 mythology to counter JewishMessianism. 470 00:24:38,564 --> 00:24:39,695 Somewhere along the line, 471 00:24:39,826 --> 00:24:43,351 those two things get mixedtogether. 472 00:24:43,482 --> 00:24:45,875 - When Vespasian died, Titus began the process 473 00:24:46,006 --> 00:24:47,660 of having his father deified. 474 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:49,792 This is a complicated processbecause 475 00:24:49,923 --> 00:24:52,926 only the Roman senate canbestow on an individual 476 00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:55,885 the title of Deus or God. 477 00:24:56,016 --> 00:24:59,236 Titus came to the senate and presented evidence 478 00:24:59,367 --> 00:25:01,848 that the life of his father had been divine. 479 00:25:01,978 --> 00:25:04,546 Certainly, this would haveincluded the military campaign 480 00:25:04,677 --> 00:25:09,333 that the Flavians waged throughJudea. 481 00:25:09,464 --> 00:25:10,465 And it's at this time, I think, 482 00:25:10,596 --> 00:25:12,206 that the gospels were written 483 00:25:12,336 --> 00:25:14,948 because the theological structure 484 00:25:15,078 --> 00:25:19,648 in the gospels of a god, thefather and the son of God 485 00:25:19,779 --> 00:25:22,085 is the same one that Titus wouldhave been 486 00:25:22,216 --> 00:25:24,348 presenting to the Roman Senate. 487 00:25:24,479 --> 00:25:29,484 Well, the Roman senate didaccept Titus's evidence 488 00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:33,967 and Vespaian was deified andbecame a god. 489 00:25:34,097 --> 00:25:42,845 Titus, therefore, became a sonof God. 490 00:25:42,976 --> 00:25:44,891 - [voiceover] The Arch ofTitus that still stands 491 00:25:45,021 --> 00:25:47,458 in modern Rome today is inscribed 492 00:25:47,589 --> 00:25:50,505 to the dedication to the DivineTitus, son 493 00:25:50,636 --> 00:25:56,163 of the Divine Vespasian or Sonof a God. 494 00:25:56,293 --> 00:25:59,166 This Imperial Cult set upto worship Caesar as God 495 00:25:59,296 --> 00:26:01,951 also provided the basis for thestructure 496 00:26:02,082 --> 00:26:04,998 of the Roman Catholic Church. 497 00:26:05,128 --> 00:26:07,783 - Now the rituals,paraphernalia and symbols 498 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:10,960 of Paganism were transferred wholesale 499 00:26:11,091 --> 00:26:13,876 to the Christian church. 500 00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:16,052 The most obvious and clearexample 501 00:26:16,183 --> 00:26:19,882 is where the title of thePagan chief, priest of Rome, 502 00:26:20,013 --> 00:26:23,843 the Pontifex Maximus, became thetitle 503 00:26:23,973 --> 00:26:27,803 of the pope, the Christian pope. 504 00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:31,111 If you look at who held the original bishop 505 00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:34,680 positions in the Catholicchurch in those early times, 506 00:26:34,810 --> 00:26:36,290 you will see that they are 507 00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:39,380 members of the same Paganaristocracy. 508 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:42,992 They simply changed theirclothing a little bit. 509 00:26:43,123 --> 00:26:44,733 They wore the same garments, 510 00:26:44,864 --> 00:26:47,344 but they wore slightly different headdresses. 511 00:26:47,475 --> 00:26:50,783 They had became from beinga priest of a Pagan cult 512 00:26:50,913 --> 00:26:53,394 to being a priest of Rome. 513 00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:55,352 - Where the Vatican now stands, 514 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:57,093 there was once a Pagan temple, 515 00:26:57,224 --> 00:27:00,357 which celebrated the mysteriesof a dying and resurrecting 516 00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:04,013 God man who wasn't Jesus. 517 00:27:04,144 --> 00:27:05,711 There are many churches in Rome. 518 00:27:05,841 --> 00:27:08,888 I've been to a few whereyou go above into the church 519 00:27:09,018 --> 00:27:11,804 and there's Jesus, and you go underneath and 520 00:27:11,934 --> 00:27:14,371 there's a little sanctuary ofMithras, 521 00:27:14,502 --> 00:27:17,766 and it's basically the samefigure. 522 00:27:17,897 --> 00:27:20,943 - So the Roman plot to inventChristianity 523 00:27:21,074 --> 00:27:24,468 is just so clever when you thinkabout it. 524 00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:29,299 Through the pope, who isGod's representative on Earth, 525 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:33,739 they no longer neededexpensive standing armies, 526 00:27:33,869 --> 00:27:36,698 wars and punishment of disobedient peasants. 527 00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:45,881 They could, through religion,rule their subjects. 528 00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:47,883 - [voiceover] Over time, Roman Christianity 529 00:27:48,014 --> 00:27:51,452 propagated over the empireby way of the mass media 530 00:27:51,582 --> 00:27:54,803 of the day, the Roman roads. 531 00:27:54,934 --> 00:27:57,588 The Romans must haveapproved of this new religion 532 00:27:57,719 --> 00:27:59,852 because, as some scholars ask, 533 00:27:59,982 --> 00:28:02,985 "If the gospels really were Jewish literature 534 00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:05,684 "about a Roman sentenced criminal, 535 00:28:05,814 --> 00:28:08,817 "why wouldn't they have beendestroyed?" 536 00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:11,080 - One of the really surprising things for me 537 00:28:11,211 --> 00:28:15,476 was to realize the extent ofRoman control 538 00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:17,957 of propaganda and literature. 539 00:28:18,087 --> 00:28:20,916 So that when you suddenlyget all these Christian 540 00:28:21,047 --> 00:28:22,701 literature arising in thisperiod, 541 00:28:22,831 --> 00:28:25,660 one has to ask, "Well, how did that happen?" 542 00:28:25,791 --> 00:28:27,053 The conclusion that one has toreach 543 00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:29,272 is that that could not havehappened 544 00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:32,928 without some degree of complicity 545 00:28:33,059 --> 00:28:36,018 on the part of the Romans. 546 00:28:36,149 --> 00:28:38,717 So then one is lead to theconclusion 547 00:28:38,847 --> 00:28:41,284 that the Romans must be involved 548 00:28:41,415 --> 00:28:50,380 in the production of theseliterature. 549 00:28:50,511 --> 00:28:52,469 - [voiceover] To produce anddisseminate this literature 550 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,124 was a huge under-taking and theFlavians 551 00:28:55,255 --> 00:28:57,561 undoubtedly had collaborators. 552 00:28:57,692 --> 00:29:00,695 We know they were funded by the wealthiest family 553 00:29:00,826 --> 00:29:04,612 in the world at this time, theAlexanders, 554 00:29:04,743 --> 00:29:06,440 a Jewish family who served as 555 00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:09,835 Rome's tax collectors in Egypt. 556 00:29:09,965 --> 00:29:12,446 Like the Herods in Judea, theAlexanders 557 00:29:12,576 --> 00:29:16,363 had strong motivation to keepthe Jew's Messianic movement 558 00:29:16,493 --> 00:29:20,236 from threatening theirposition and their wealth. 559 00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:23,718 One of their family members was Philo of Alexandria, 560 00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:26,721 a famous Jewish theologian whowas already 561 00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:29,071 writing works that combinedJewish beliefs 562 00:29:29,202 --> 00:29:33,554 with the modern Greek andRoman pagan beliefs of the day. 563 00:29:33,684 --> 00:29:35,904 Many scholars agree that hiswritings 564 00:29:36,035 --> 00:29:41,910 formed the basis for much ofthe philosophy of Christianity. 565 00:29:42,041 --> 00:29:46,219 - In these pages ispractically every concept 566 00:29:46,349 --> 00:29:48,525 that you can find within Christianity. 567 00:29:48,656 --> 00:29:51,790 He combined Greek philosophy, 568 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,445 and he took that andcombined it with Judaism. 569 00:29:55,576 --> 00:30:00,407 On top of that, he was froman extremely wealthy family, 570 00:30:00,537 --> 00:30:03,323 and this is important because you have to 571 00:30:03,453 --> 00:30:05,107 follow the money when you'relooking at 572 00:30:05,238 --> 00:30:07,980 major trends, new paradigmsbeing set. 573 00:30:08,110 --> 00:30:09,546 And if you look at his family,then, 574 00:30:09,677 --> 00:30:11,766 you start seeing, "Well,this is interesting because 575 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:17,119 "now we're starting to comeacross the Flavians again." 576 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:20,209 His relatives are veryinvolved with the Flavians. 577 00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,342 That whole area is where wewant to look very closely 578 00:30:22,472 --> 00:30:23,996 for the Christian origins. 579 00:30:24,126 --> 00:30:26,825 - It's from exactly the same circle of people 580 00:30:26,955 --> 00:30:31,394 that you get the firstsigns of Christian ideology 581 00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:40,186 and they all lead to therise of the Flavian dynasty. 582 00:30:40,316 --> 00:30:42,362 - [voiceover] Another wealthy influential character, 583 00:30:42,492 --> 00:30:46,279 Princess Berenice, was fromthe Herod family in Judea. 584 00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:49,195 She's the granddaughter of Herathe Great, 585 00:30:49,325 --> 00:30:51,632 a product of the Herod's intermarriage 586 00:30:51,762 --> 00:30:57,464 with the conquered Jewishruling Messianic lineage. 587 00:30:57,594 --> 00:30:59,640 - Princess Berenice appearsin the New Testament, 588 00:30:59,770 --> 00:31:01,511 which makes her an interestingcharacter. 589 00:31:01,642 --> 00:31:03,862 She had two or three husbands 590 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:08,083 and then became the mistress ofTitus. 591 00:31:08,214 --> 00:31:12,696 So you can see this, again,rather-like dynasty here. 592 00:31:12,827 --> 00:31:15,134 You know, powerful people, mixed marriages. 593 00:31:15,264 --> 00:31:19,312 You know, checking up with theconqueror. 594 00:31:19,442 --> 00:31:22,228 Yeah, and it's really whereJoe Atwill takes his idea 595 00:31:22,358 --> 00:31:26,449 of the conspiracy to write the New Testament. 596 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:29,278 But let him say it in his ownwords. 597 00:31:29,409 --> 00:31:31,672 - Berenice was a Herod relatedby marriage 598 00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:33,804 to the Alexanders, and ofcourse, later, 599 00:31:33,935 --> 00:31:36,503 she became the mistress toTitus. 600 00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:38,809 The fact that she was soclosely linked with the Flavians 601 00:31:38,940 --> 00:31:42,248 shows you that the threefamilies were very unified 602 00:31:42,378 --> 00:31:46,339 in financial, romantic andlikely theological issues. 603 00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,994 - By the looks of things, this coalescence 604 00:31:49,124 --> 00:31:51,170 seemed to have brought about adynamic 605 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,738 that led to the synthesisof Judaism and Paganism, 606 00:31:54,869 --> 00:31:57,176 and eventually became Christianity. 607 00:31:57,306 --> 00:32:00,048 So this is a very key timeperiod. 608 00:32:00,179 --> 00:32:02,877 - I believe that the gospelswere actually 609 00:32:03,008 --> 00:32:06,098 written under the control of theHerods, 610 00:32:06,228 --> 00:32:08,796 the Alexanders and the Flavians. 611 00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,625 These families had the motivation 612 00:32:11,755 --> 00:32:13,279 to create Christianity 613 00:32:13,409 --> 00:32:16,760 and with the expertise inJudaism that the Alexanders 614 00:32:16,891 --> 00:32:21,765 and the Herods had, they had the actual technical 615 00:32:21,896 --> 00:32:24,203 ability to come up with thesestories 616 00:32:24,333 --> 00:32:27,032 that were a fulfillment of Hebraic prophecies. 617 00:32:27,162 --> 00:32:28,903 - [voiceover] So it seems theFlavians had 618 00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:32,167 the motivation, the meansand the collaborations 619 00:32:32,298 --> 00:32:34,953 through which they likelyconstructed 620 00:32:35,083 --> 00:32:37,999 and began disseminating Christianity. 621 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:40,915 And if our scholars arecorrect, one of the documents 622 00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:45,833 they left behind are the gospels themselves. 623 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,444 [curious music] 624 00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:51,839 - I began working on the study of the Gospels 625 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,277 in the 1970s, and I look attexts in terms 626 00:32:55,408 --> 00:32:58,498 of how were these composed,what does understanding 627 00:32:58,628 --> 00:33:01,196 their structure tell you about who wrote them 628 00:33:01,327 --> 00:33:03,285 and why they were written. 629 00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:06,158 These texts were notindependent Jewish texts, 630 00:33:06,288 --> 00:33:08,595 but they were created as literary works using 631 00:33:08,725 --> 00:33:10,901 classical literature models. 632 00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:13,992 - If we expect that this is thetestimony 633 00:33:14,122 --> 00:33:16,777 of witnesses, we've got a majorproblem. 634 00:33:16,907 --> 00:33:21,042 We actually have four anonymousdocuments. 635 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:23,610 They were not written by thenamed people 636 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:25,177 on those documents. 637 00:33:25,307 --> 00:33:28,441 This is simply churchtradition that the gospels 638 00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:33,489 are so named according toMark, according to Matthew. 639 00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:37,624 So this idea that the gospels are reliable testimony 640 00:33:37,754 --> 00:33:39,800 is patent nonsense. 641 00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:42,672 - Why are the gospels calledgospels? 642 00:33:42,803 --> 00:33:44,500 That's a critical question. 643 00:33:44,631 --> 00:33:47,547 The word gospel in Greek isEvangelion, 644 00:33:47,677 --> 00:33:52,682 and it means good news of military victory. 645 00:33:52,813 --> 00:33:54,423 Whose military victory are wecelebrating 646 00:33:54,554 --> 00:33:55,816 here in these gospels? 647 00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:58,775 Well, seems to me that we arecelebrating, 648 00:33:58,906 --> 00:34:01,387 clearly, the Roman military victory because 649 00:34:01,517 --> 00:34:04,042 these events, the Battle ofGadara, 650 00:34:04,172 --> 00:34:05,347 the Battle of the later Galilee, 651 00:34:05,478 --> 00:34:07,132 the success at the Battle ofJerusalem, 652 00:34:07,262 --> 00:34:10,264 these are battles that theRomans won. 653 00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:15,313 Why are the gospels celebratingbattles that the Jews lost 654 00:34:15,444 --> 00:34:17,880 if these things were written bythe Jews? 655 00:34:18,012 --> 00:34:21,275 - The fact that the gospelsare known to us in Greek 656 00:34:21,407 --> 00:34:26,150 and not in Aramaic or Hebrew, isI think, 657 00:34:26,281 --> 00:34:28,891 just evidence of their authorship. 658 00:34:29,023 --> 00:34:31,721 They were not written by any followers of Jesus, 659 00:34:31,851 --> 00:34:33,679 who would've surely spokenAramaic, 660 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:36,813 and if they had beenfisherman and simple folk, 661 00:34:36,944 --> 00:34:38,902 they would not have had the literary skills 662 00:34:39,033 --> 00:34:40,687 to write them anyway. 663 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:41,949 - [voiceover] If we look closely, 664 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,168 there actually are clues in thegospels 665 00:34:44,299 --> 00:34:47,302 that point to who the trueauthors were. 666 00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:49,435 - A lot of the Christian literature advocates 667 00:34:49,565 --> 00:34:53,264 turning away from the Jewishlaw and obeying Roman law. 668 00:34:53,395 --> 00:34:55,266 Well this, this fits perfectly 669 00:34:55,397 --> 00:34:58,748 into Roman propaganda purposes. 670 00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:01,969 And then you have, in general,the portrayal of Jesus 671 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,580 as the peaceful Jew who is wandering around 672 00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:08,584 in what is depicted assort of a pastor or saint, 673 00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:11,457 talking to fisherman and farmers and so forth, 674 00:35:11,587 --> 00:35:14,068 when in fact, this is a warzone. 675 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:17,419 Judea is a war zone, and you askyourself, 676 00:35:17,550 --> 00:35:20,335 "Well, why is it notportrayed as a war zone?" 677 00:35:20,466 --> 00:35:22,772 - I mean, they really had it down pad 678 00:35:22,903 --> 00:35:25,297 because they had Jesussaying, "Render unto Caesar 679 00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:27,603 "what is Caesar's", which is basically 680 00:35:27,734 --> 00:35:30,040 in response to talking aboutmoney. 681 00:35:30,171 --> 00:35:32,956 Whose benefit would that be? 682 00:35:33,087 --> 00:35:34,262 It's so blatantly obvious. 683 00:35:34,393 --> 00:35:36,221 - The perception of Romancharacters 684 00:35:36,351 --> 00:35:38,745 in the gospels, they're allinterpreted 685 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,225 in a favorable light. 686 00:35:40,355 --> 00:35:42,575 They are pro-Roman. 687 00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:46,361 They do not depict theRomans as the forces of evil. 688 00:35:46,492 --> 00:35:47,797 They reverse that. 689 00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:53,890 It's the Jews who become the forces of darkness. 690 00:35:54,021 --> 00:35:56,545 It's very striking that variouspassages 691 00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:59,069 in the gospels refer to the Jews 692 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,203 as some people separate from 693 00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:05,206 the heroes of Jesus and hisdisciples. 694 00:36:05,337 --> 00:36:07,730 The Jews are those who object. 695 00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:11,517 The Jews are those who tryto thwart the divine plan. 696 00:36:11,647 --> 00:36:14,389 Now that gives us a clue,certainly, 697 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,002 to who were the true authors ofthis book. 698 00:36:19,133 --> 00:36:21,918 - They are works of literaturecreated by 699 00:36:22,049 --> 00:36:24,965 people who are trained in Jewish literature 700 00:36:25,095 --> 00:36:28,621 but whose values are pro-Roman. 701 00:36:28,751 --> 00:36:31,319 - The Romans wanted to promote Antisemitism, 702 00:36:31,450 --> 00:36:34,888 and so they bring the storyof the beloved man god, 703 00:36:35,018 --> 00:36:37,934 Jesus Christ, to appear as if 704 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:40,807 the Jews had brought about hisdeath. 705 00:36:40,937 --> 00:36:43,853 Because of this, the Jews wouldhave to 706 00:36:43,984 --> 00:36:47,074 suffer Antisemitism throughouthistory. 707 00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:51,209 - So this was a piece of workthat could not have been done 708 00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:54,081 except by fairlyestablished literary team, 709 00:36:54,212 --> 00:36:56,997 such as the literary team that was in Rome 710 00:36:57,127 --> 00:36:59,869 actually writing the books ofJosephus. 711 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,610 I mean, that was written by a literary team, 712 00:37:01,741 --> 00:37:04,961 and it was written as one of theattempts 713 00:37:05,092 --> 00:37:09,357 to give prominence to theFlavian Caesars, 714 00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:11,968 which the gospels obviously do. 715 00:37:12,099 --> 00:37:13,970 So it is extremely likely thatthe gospels 716 00:37:14,101 --> 00:37:18,975 as a form of epic designed tomagnify 717 00:37:19,106 --> 00:37:21,543 allegorically, the Roman Caesars, 718 00:37:21,674 --> 00:37:25,939 is also written at the courtof the Flavian emperors. 719 00:37:26,069 --> 00:37:28,985 - [voiceover] But the Jesusstory takes place many decades 720 00:37:29,116 --> 00:37:31,553 before the Flavians came topower. 721 00:37:31,684 --> 00:37:34,121 Why would the Flavians create awork about 722 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:39,039 a Jewish Messiah that wasn'teven from their own era? 723 00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:44,174 - The gospels were veryprecisely backdated 40 years. 724 00:37:44,305 --> 00:37:48,222 Jesus's ministry was started in 30 CE, 725 00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:52,226 exactly 40 years from thedestruction from the temple. 726 00:37:52,357 --> 00:37:56,709 His ministry ends at Passover,33 CE, 727 00:37:56,839 --> 00:38:00,147 which is 40 years before theend of the Jewish-Roman War, 728 00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:03,846 which occurred atPassover in 73 CE with the 729 00:38:03,977 --> 00:38:08,590 famous battle of Masada. 730 00:38:08,721 --> 00:38:10,766 - The gospels are backdated into 731 00:38:10,897 --> 00:38:12,855 the period of Pontius Pilate. 732 00:38:12,986 --> 00:38:15,031 That is to say before the first Jewish war, 733 00:38:15,162 --> 00:38:17,860 which is to say, in the Julio-Claudian period. 734 00:38:17,991 --> 00:38:21,255 But this is typical of Flavianliterature. 735 00:38:21,386 --> 00:38:24,432 It's a Flavian technique. 736 00:38:24,563 --> 00:38:27,783 What they do is backdatethe story into the period 737 00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:31,526 of their enemies, namely, the Julio-Claudians. 738 00:38:31,657 --> 00:38:35,574 And so, generation aftergeneration of Christian scholars 739 00:38:35,704 --> 00:38:39,273 and even secular historians go hunting in the 740 00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:43,233 Julio-Claudian period forthe origins of the gospels. 741 00:38:43,364 --> 00:38:45,714 They don't really find anyanswers there. 742 00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:48,500 There are allusions in thegospels 743 00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:50,719 to the destruction of thetemple, 744 00:38:50,850 --> 00:38:52,852 the most reasonable answerto that is that these 745 00:38:52,982 --> 00:38:56,116 texts were written after thedestruction of the temple. 746 00:38:56,246 --> 00:38:58,292 That is to say in the Flavianperiod, 747 00:38:58,423 --> 00:39:00,381 after the change of dynasty. 748 00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:03,123 - [voiceover] This backdatingof the story of Jesus Christ 749 00:39:03,253 --> 00:39:05,821 40 years earlier from the timethe gospels 750 00:39:05,952 --> 00:39:08,433 may actually have been writtenexplains 751 00:39:08,563 --> 00:39:11,436 why many of the propheciesof Jesus came true 752 00:39:11,566 --> 00:39:15,527 within exactly 40 years. 753 00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:17,920 - What does this all add up to? 754 00:39:18,051 --> 00:39:20,880 In my view, the thing thatis the most significant 755 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:23,404 is the research by Joseph Atwill 756 00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:25,275 in his book Caesar's Messiah, 757 00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:28,757 which suggests that the gospels were actually 758 00:39:28,888 --> 00:39:32,587 created as works of Romanpropaganda 759 00:39:32,718 --> 00:39:34,459 at the end of the Roman-Jewishwar 760 00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:36,852 under the reign of the Flavianemperors, 761 00:39:36,983 --> 00:39:41,553 that is Titus Caesar and Vespasian Caesar. 762 00:39:41,683 --> 00:39:43,946 And if you end up worshipingJesus, 763 00:39:44,077 --> 00:39:45,731 what you will really end updoing 764 00:39:45,861 --> 00:39:49,822 is worshiping Caesar in disguise. 765 00:39:49,952 --> 00:39:51,345 - [voiceover] This mayhave been how the Flavians 766 00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:54,740 finally got the Jews to worship Caesar as a god, 767 00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:57,873 by giving them Jesus Christ, 768 00:39:58,004 --> 00:40:00,833 a Messiah more to the Roman'sliking. 769 00:40:00,963 --> 00:40:04,358 But is there any actualhistory to this character? 770 00:40:04,489 --> 00:40:07,666 Where did he really come from? 771 00:40:07,796 --> 00:40:10,320 - The mystery, to me,begins with his very name. 772 00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:15,543 In Greek, Jesus means saviorand Christ means the messiah. 773 00:40:15,674 --> 00:40:17,110 This didn't strike me as something 774 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,112 you would call a young child. 775 00:40:19,242 --> 00:40:24,813 - These two words are alreadyimportant 776 00:40:24,944 --> 00:40:31,124 within Judaism before JesusChrist supposedly existed. 777 00:40:31,254 --> 00:40:35,215 Major biblical figures toa Jewish Greek-speaking 778 00:40:35,345 --> 00:40:39,001 populace would already be calledChrist. 779 00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:40,873 Their ears would already beacclimated 780 00:40:41,003 --> 00:40:44,180 to accepting this title. 781 00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:46,574 So it isn't just a unique name 782 00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:50,273 of a single person that just suddenly popped up. 783 00:40:50,404 --> 00:40:54,060 - What did we actually knowabut Jesus Christ the man? 784 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:57,846 - I don't think that Jesuscan be historically defended. 785 00:40:57,977 --> 00:40:59,718 I don't think there's any evidence that we can 786 00:40:59,848 --> 00:41:03,069 extend to that particular Jesus. 787 00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:06,768 - So when you actually set out to investigate 788 00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:12,165 the historical Jesus asopposed to the Christ of faith, 789 00:41:12,295 --> 00:41:15,603 you very abruptly enter a void. 790 00:41:15,734 --> 00:41:18,650 You find that whereas you might imagine 791 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:21,740 the core details of Jesus are readily known 792 00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:27,093 and accessible, you actuallydiscover there's no such thing. 793 00:41:27,223 --> 00:41:30,488 - Further, there had never beenany archaeological evidence 794 00:41:30,618 --> 00:41:33,403 of Jesus Christ that had ever been discovered. 795 00:41:33,534 --> 00:41:38,408 - You cannot find anestablished and incontrovertible 796 00:41:38,539 --> 00:41:40,933 biooraphy of Jesus at all. 797 00:41:41,063 --> 00:41:42,674 It doesn't exist. 798 00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:47,679 You enter a strange TwilightZone of early Christian belief. 799 00:41:47,809 --> 00:41:50,290 What we have here is not amovement 800 00:41:50,420 --> 00:41:54,424 that's grown on the accretionof legends on a real 801 00:41:54,555 --> 00:41:59,647 flesh and blood man, but instead, the development 802 00:41:59,778 --> 00:42:04,739 of a religious movementaround the idea of a man. 803 00:42:04,870 --> 00:42:06,480 - [voiceover] There isn't even an actual physical 804 00:42:06,611 --> 00:42:11,616 description of what Jesus lookslike anywhere in the gospel. 805 00:42:11,746 --> 00:42:14,880 - The presentation of the Jesuscharacter, 806 00:42:15,010 --> 00:42:17,404 it's somewhat of a composite of 807 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:21,103 many Messianic leaders of thetime. 808 00:42:21,234 --> 00:42:22,540 Many Messianic leaders of thetime, 809 00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:25,630 most or all of whom came to abad end, 810 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,981 usually by crucifixion becausecrucifixion 811 00:42:29,111 --> 00:42:32,550 was the Roman punishment for seditious activity. 812 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,203 - And the penny dropped, thepenny dropped 813 00:42:34,334 --> 00:42:39,644 that Jesus, as a human being, never existed. 814 00:42:39,774 --> 00:42:41,994 - In all of this, we're dealing with literature. 815 00:42:42,124 --> 00:42:43,517 We're not dealing with history. 816 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:47,913 So the answer is, no there is nohistory 817 00:42:48,043 --> 00:42:49,262 to this character of Jesus. 818 00:42:49,392 --> 00:42:51,656 It's entirely a literary creation. 819 00:42:51,786 --> 00:42:55,094 - [joseph] What the Romansdid was they saw the Jews' 820 00:42:55,224 --> 00:42:56,922 reliance and belief in prophecy. 821 00:42:57,052 --> 00:43:00,099 So they said, "Okay, they want aprophet. 822 00:43:00,229 --> 00:43:01,883 "Let's give them one." 823 00:43:02,014 --> 00:43:03,711 - [voiceover] It seems that in the construction 824 00:43:03,842 --> 00:43:06,192 of the literary character JesusChrist, 825 00:43:06,322 --> 00:43:08,977 the Roman authors borrowedreligions concepts 826 00:43:09,108 --> 00:43:12,502 not only from Judaism, but also from other gods 827 00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:14,461 and religions that they knew. 828 00:43:14,592 --> 00:43:16,768 Some scholars have noticed the similarities 829 00:43:16,898 --> 00:43:22,643 between the story of Jesus andthe ancient Pagan mysteries. 830 00:43:22,774 --> 00:43:27,213 - In ancient mythology,we find this whole strain 831 00:43:27,343 --> 00:43:29,389 of thought called Solar mythology. 832 00:43:29,519 --> 00:43:31,913 Many gods start taking on solarattributes 833 00:43:32,044 --> 00:43:34,742 because as agricultural communities 834 00:43:34,873 --> 00:43:38,920 become more important, thesun becomes the big focus 835 00:43:39,051 --> 00:43:42,489 for the most obvious reasonof planting and harvesting. 836 00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:44,578 The sun is then personified. 837 00:43:44,709 --> 00:43:48,103 So now we have a male sun god. 838 00:43:48,234 --> 00:43:52,542 Becomes a religion in many parts of the world. 839 00:43:52,673 --> 00:43:55,110 Christianity usurped a tremendous amount 840 00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:59,811 of sun worship. Some of usare saying that this was 841 00:43:59,941 --> 00:44:05,338 a sun God turned into a Jewish man. 842 00:44:05,468 --> 00:44:07,253 This December 25th birthday was, 843 00:44:07,383 --> 00:44:10,125 in fact, the Winter Solstice. 844 00:44:10,256 --> 00:44:13,172 This is really, in fact, the Godof Light. 845 00:44:13,302 --> 00:44:15,391 December 25th actually is theend 846 00:44:15,522 --> 00:44:18,743 of a three-day period ofwhen the sun stands still. 847 00:44:18,873 --> 00:44:22,616 The sun appears to be dyingas the days become shorter, 848 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:28,143 and the sun is reborn at that point. 849 00:44:28,274 --> 00:44:30,406 - Across the ancientworld, there was this form 850 00:44:30,537 --> 00:44:33,453 of experiential andphilosophical spirituality 851 00:44:33,583 --> 00:44:36,021 in these mystery cults or mystery schools. 852 00:44:36,151 --> 00:44:38,850 And at the center of theseschools, 853 00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:43,768 you would find a mythoswhich was an initiatory myth, 854 00:44:43,898 --> 00:44:46,945 so symbolic myth, whichwould help people who were 855 00:44:47,075 --> 00:44:49,382 going through the initiating process come to the 856 00:44:49,512 --> 00:44:51,340 spiritual awakenings knowledge. 857 00:44:51,471 --> 00:44:53,038 This, they called Gnosis. 858 00:44:53,168 --> 00:44:55,910 And what you see in thesemyths is the elements 859 00:44:56,041 --> 00:44:58,521 that would later become theJesus story. 860 00:44:58,652 --> 00:45:01,699 - Let's ask the question,"Is Jesus developed 861 00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:06,138 "from pre-existing literarycharacters?" 862 00:45:06,268 --> 00:45:09,924 Jesus has certain episodesin this so-called life 863 00:45:10,055 --> 00:45:12,100 and each one of them can betraced 864 00:45:12,231 --> 00:45:17,802 to a prior representation ofthat time. 865 00:45:17,932 --> 00:45:19,629 - If you look at the elements which we found 866 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,242 in the Pagan mystery schoolmyths, 867 00:45:23,372 --> 00:45:25,331 you find the story of a dying and resurrecting 868 00:45:25,461 --> 00:45:29,596 son of God whose born of avirgin, 869 00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:33,513 has 12 disciples, turnswater into wine at a wedding. 870 00:45:33,643 --> 00:45:36,081 He brings a new religion of love, 871 00:45:36,211 --> 00:45:43,392 is accused of heresy orprovocation by the authorities. 872 00:45:43,523 --> 00:45:45,481 He's put to death,sometimes by crucifixion. 873 00:45:45,612 --> 00:45:48,006 And then if you want tocommune with the god man, 874 00:45:48,136 --> 00:45:49,747 you take bread and wine and then 875 00:45:49,877 --> 00:45:51,357 you can come to eternal life. 876 00:45:51,487 --> 00:45:56,101 Well, all of this is, of course, Christianity. 877 00:45:56,231 --> 00:45:59,104 - Easter itself is a longpre-Christian celebration 878 00:45:59,234 --> 00:46:03,848 of the resurrection of springfrom the death of winter. 879 00:46:03,978 --> 00:46:05,414 - This is an ancient Shamanicrite 880 00:46:05,545 --> 00:46:07,677 you'll find all over theworld, but you go through a 881 00:46:07,808 --> 00:46:10,419 ritual death where you get reborn, 882 00:46:10,550 --> 00:46:12,857 but you're reborn as an awakebeing. 883 00:46:12,987 --> 00:46:14,728 So you died just to your lowernature, 884 00:46:14,859 --> 00:46:19,124 and you're woken up to a highernature. 885 00:46:19,254 --> 00:46:21,474 [soft flute music] 886 00:46:21,604 --> 00:46:23,737 - You can find them in the OldTestaments 887 00:46:23,868 --> 00:46:26,305 and the Jewish mythology aswell. 888 00:46:26,435 --> 00:46:28,394 It isn't just Pagan parallels. 889 00:46:28,524 --> 00:46:30,396 I mean the New Testament,for example, the Ascension. 890 00:46:30,526 --> 00:46:33,921 We have an ascension withthe Old Testament figure 891 00:46:34,052 --> 00:46:38,099 of Elijah, and it's a very dramatic ascension. 892 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:39,971 - Elisha, Elijah cycle. 893 00:46:40,101 --> 00:46:42,930 These are two Jewishprophets, one followed on 894 00:46:43,061 --> 00:46:46,673 from the other which have many of 895 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:50,155 the story elements found inJesus. 896 00:46:50,285 --> 00:46:53,811 For example, there is amultiplication of food miracle. 897 00:46:53,941 --> 00:46:56,204 There is a raising of the dead miracle. 898 00:46:56,335 --> 00:46:59,773 There is a water miracle. 899 00:46:59,904 --> 00:47:05,779 There is an, ultimately, anascension to heaven miracle. 900 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:07,737 Is this fulfillment or is this 901 00:47:07,868 --> 00:47:13,700 simply copying of a usefultheme? 902 00:47:13,831 --> 00:47:16,485 - You can see where they just used Old Testament 903 00:47:16,616 --> 00:47:19,749 characters and scriptures as ablueprint 904 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,317 to create this new one. 905 00:47:22,448 --> 00:47:24,363 - A lot of the ethics of Christianity actually 906 00:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,887 were around before Christianity. 907 00:47:27,018 --> 00:47:29,498 Do unto others as youwould have them do unto you 908 00:47:29,629 --> 00:47:31,761 is in fact from the Old Testaments. 909 00:47:31,892 --> 00:47:33,807 So Jesus didn't make that up. 910 00:47:33,938 --> 00:47:36,854 Many of the other aspectsof Christian ethics, 911 00:47:36,984 --> 00:47:39,857 many things which we might liketo applaud 912 00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:42,120 as very good aspects of Christian ethics 913 00:47:42,250 --> 00:47:45,688 can be found in theStoic philosophy in Rome, 914 00:47:45,819 --> 00:47:49,301 which, by the way, isexactly the philosophical 915 00:47:49,431 --> 00:47:53,740 and ethical schoolpromoted by the Flavians. 916 00:47:53,871 --> 00:47:56,569 - There's little that is original about Jesus. 917 00:47:56,699 --> 00:48:00,138 If one separates from his words, 918 00:48:00,268 --> 00:48:03,054 advice that was in theinterest of the Roman Imperial 919 00:48:03,184 --> 00:48:05,795 family, all that you have left are 920 00:48:05,926 --> 00:48:08,668 snippets of widely known philosophies, 921 00:48:08,798 --> 00:48:13,064 truisms and concepts that camedirectly 922 00:48:13,194 --> 00:48:15,544 from prior Hebraic literature. 923 00:48:15,675 --> 00:48:18,721 - The reason I am nowconvinced there's no historical 924 00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:20,941 Jesus, which seems a real, like, whoa, 925 00:48:21,072 --> 00:48:22,812 to people that are not familiar with the idea 926 00:48:22,943 --> 00:48:24,858 is a combination of things. 927 00:48:24,989 --> 00:48:28,949 First of all, there's noevidence for a historical man 928 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,778 which stands up to proper scrutiny. 929 00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:37,218 Secondly is the story of Jesusis 930 00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:40,874 full of these motifs whichcome from the Pagan mysteries, 931 00:48:41,005 --> 00:48:44,922 and the third reason is becausein the 932 00:48:45,052 --> 00:48:47,054 early Christian movement,there's these two types 933 00:48:47,185 --> 00:48:49,404 of Christians, certainly by the second century, 934 00:48:49,535 --> 00:48:52,277 which are, I think of asGnostics and Literalists. 935 00:48:52,407 --> 00:48:54,279 What marks out theLiteralists, who will become 936 00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:56,846 the Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church 937 00:48:56,977 --> 00:48:59,327 is that they've got a historicalman. 938 00:48:59,458 --> 00:49:01,982 What marks out theGnostics is that they see 939 00:49:02,113 --> 00:49:03,897 it allegorically and their great heresy 940 00:49:04,028 --> 00:49:06,117 is that Christ didn't come intoflesh. 941 00:49:06,247 --> 00:49:10,382 Now, the winners write history, 942 00:49:10,512 --> 00:49:14,473 and the history books have beenwritten by the Literalists. 943 00:49:14,603 --> 00:49:16,736 - And all of the tradition aboutthe 944 00:49:16,866 --> 00:49:20,479 Romans trying to torture and suppress Christians, 945 00:49:20,609 --> 00:49:22,307 these traditions are correct. 946 00:49:22,437 --> 00:49:25,353 They definitely persecuted theMessianic 947 00:49:25,484 --> 00:49:28,356 militaristic Christians and theycertainly 948 00:49:28,487 --> 00:49:31,969 would have frowned on theGnostic independent thinking 949 00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:36,147 Christians, but the Romanpacifistic 950 00:49:36,277 --> 00:49:38,018 giving to Caesar what is Caesar Christians, 951 00:49:38,149 --> 00:49:39,802 that group would have beenpromoted. 952 00:49:39,933 --> 00:49:41,587 - Which makes it perfect for the Roman Empire, 953 00:49:41,717 --> 00:49:43,676 and it's a fascist empire. 954 00:49:43,806 --> 00:49:45,417 It's got a very simple message. 955 00:49:45,547 --> 00:49:46,548 "Just believe this. 956 00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:48,289 "You don't have to transform, 957 00:49:48,420 --> 00:49:50,074 "and you have to go through the authorities, 958 00:49:50,204 --> 00:49:55,166 "through the bishops, throughthe states, ultimately." 959 00:49:55,296 --> 00:49:57,342 It's the perfect thing for them to pick up, 960 00:49:57,472 --> 00:50:00,823 and that's what they did. 961 00:50:00,954 --> 00:50:02,825 - [voiceover] Our scholarsagree that the gospels 962 00:50:02,956 --> 00:50:06,786 are complex literarycreations, drawing from both 963 00:50:06,916 --> 00:50:10,355 Pagan and Jewish myth, but Joseph Atwill goes 964 00:50:10,485 --> 00:50:13,488 a step further to say that the Flavians wrote 965 00:50:13,619 --> 00:50:17,231 passages directly into the gospels which show 966 00:50:17,362 --> 00:50:27,763 they were the authors. 967 00:50:27,894 --> 00:50:29,896 - One of the most famousprophecies that Jesus makes 968 00:50:30,027 --> 00:50:32,246 is about the coming of someone 969 00:50:32,377 --> 00:50:34,074 he refers to as the son of man. 970 00:50:34,205 --> 00:50:37,860 Now many people believe that he's talking about 971 00:50:37,991 --> 00:50:41,342 a second coming of himself, and many people 972 00:50:41,473 --> 00:50:44,389 believe this was going tooccur some point in the future. 973 00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:46,347 Well, the fact is, this coming 974 00:50:46,478 --> 00:50:49,655 of Jesus has already occurred. 975 00:50:49,785 --> 00:50:52,266 Jesus makes very specificprophecies 976 00:50:52,397 --> 00:50:53,746 as to what will happen when 977 00:50:53,876 --> 00:50:56,270 the son of man makes his visitation. 978 00:50:56,401 --> 00:50:59,360 He refers to three key events: 979 00:50:59,491 --> 00:51:02,233 The Galilean towns will be crushed, Jerusalem 980 00:51:02,363 --> 00:51:06,280 will be encircled with a wall,and the temple will be razed, 981 00:51:06,411 --> 00:51:09,240 leaving not one stone atopanother. 982 00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:13,070 He also states exactly whenthis individual will come. 983 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,464 He says that the son of man will appear before 984 00:51:16,595 --> 00:51:18,727 the generation that is alive 985 00:51:18,858 --> 00:51:22,253 and listening to Jesus's words passes away. 986 00:51:22,383 --> 00:51:27,693 Now to Jews of this era,a generation is 40 years. 987 00:51:27,823 --> 00:51:31,088 And so the only individual that could possibly be 988 00:51:31,218 --> 00:51:34,917 the son of man that Jesuspredicts is Titus Flavius. 989 00:51:35,048 --> 00:51:39,183 Titus Flavius did destroythe Gallilean towns. 990 00:51:39,313 --> 00:51:43,143 He did encircle Jerusalem with awall, 991 00:51:43,274 --> 00:51:48,714 and he razed the temple andleft not one stone atop another. 992 00:51:48,844 --> 00:51:56,330 And he did this within 40 years. 993 00:51:56,461 --> 00:51:59,725 Josephus recorded that nomatter how Titus tortured 994 00:51:59,855 --> 00:52:04,338 the Jews, they refused to call him lord or God. 995 00:52:04,469 --> 00:52:06,210 So to circumvent this stubbornness, 996 00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:10,649 the Flavians wrote thegospels in which a son of man 997 00:52:10,779 --> 00:52:13,391 was predicted to come in the future. 998 00:52:13,521 --> 00:52:18,744 Titus fulfilled these propheciesand became the son of man. 999 00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:28,275 So you end up worshipingTitus without knowing it. 1000 00:52:28,406 --> 00:52:29,929 - [voiceover] To further support his thesis 1001 00:52:30,059 --> 00:52:32,671 that the Flavians originatedChristianity, 1002 00:52:32,801 --> 00:52:35,848 Joseph Atwill points tothe Roman Catholic Church's 1003 00:52:35,978 --> 00:52:46,859 earliest saints known as the Christian Flavians. 1004 00:52:46,989 --> 00:52:49,340 - The Flavian family is connected to 1005 00:52:49,470 --> 00:52:51,820 early Christianity in a number of unusual ways. 1006 00:52:51,951 --> 00:52:54,127 So many members of the family were recorded 1007 00:52:54,258 --> 00:52:57,739 as having been among thefirst Roman Catholic saints. 1008 00:52:57,870 --> 00:53:01,352 These include Flavia Domitilla, who is either 1009 00:53:01,482 --> 00:53:06,008 Titus's sister or his niece,and there is an inscription 1010 00:53:06,139 --> 00:53:10,143 honoring Flavia for donatingthe land that became 1011 00:53:10,274 --> 00:53:13,799 the first Christian catacomb,and Flavia Domitilla 1012 00:53:13,929 --> 00:53:17,759 was the first Christian saint. 1013 00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:20,849 Her son, Clement, is recorded as having been 1014 00:53:20,980 --> 00:53:26,028 the first Roman Catholicpope after the apostle Simon. 1015 00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:29,467 In addition, there weretwo members of the Flavian 1016 00:53:29,597 --> 00:53:34,080 household staff, Nereus and Achilleus. 1017 00:53:34,211 --> 00:53:36,604 Both of them had churches namedafter them 1018 00:53:36,735 --> 00:53:43,002 in the very earliestChristian Diocese in Rome. 1019 00:53:43,132 --> 00:53:45,918 There was a Christiantheologian whose name was 1020 00:53:46,048 --> 00:53:51,053 Titus Flavius Clemens, Clement of Alexandria, 1021 00:53:51,184 --> 00:53:53,099 and he's the one who actuallydescribed 1022 00:53:53,230 --> 00:53:55,971 the first christian symbols andhe said 1023 00:53:56,102 --> 00:54:00,237 they were the anchor, the boat,the fish, 1024 00:54:00,367 --> 00:54:04,676 the olive branch, the star, andoddly, 1025 00:54:04,806 --> 00:54:06,373 these are the very symbols 1026 00:54:06,504 --> 00:54:12,814 that the Flavian Caesars used on their coins. 1027 00:54:12,945 --> 00:54:14,903 The final connectingpoint between the Flavian 1028 00:54:15,034 --> 00:54:18,124 family and Christianity isthat in the fourth century, 1029 00:54:18,255 --> 00:54:21,127 Flavius Constantine made Christianity 1030 00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:26,219 the state religion of Rome. 1031 00:54:26,350 --> 00:54:28,352 The military achievements ofCaesar's 1032 00:54:28,482 --> 00:54:31,137 were important to all Romans. 1033 00:54:31,268 --> 00:54:34,967 So certainly, the FlavianChristians, the group 1034 00:54:35,097 --> 00:54:38,536 that the Roman CatholicChurch states were the first 1035 00:54:38,666 --> 00:54:41,800 saints of the religion, would have known 1036 00:54:41,930 --> 00:54:45,630 the identity of the son ofman that Jesus predicted 1037 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,287 who would crush Galilee,encircle Jerusalem with a wall, 1038 00:54:50,417 --> 00:54:57,206 and raze the temple was Titus Flavius. 1039 00:54:57,337 --> 00:54:59,687 - [voiceover] So it seemsif a person knows how 1040 00:54:59,818 --> 00:55:02,299 to uncover them, there are actually many clues 1041 00:55:02,429 --> 00:55:06,128 pointing to the Flavian origin of Christianity, 1042 00:55:06,259 --> 00:55:09,131 and perhaps the most intriguingone that Joseph Atwill 1043 00:55:09,262 --> 00:55:12,787 uncovered is a secret code the Flavians used 1044 00:55:12,918 --> 00:55:15,573 in their documents,which enabled him to make 1045 00:55:15,703 --> 00:55:18,967 his startling discovery. 1046 00:55:19,098 --> 00:55:21,100 - So the Romans had the Jew'sscripture 1047 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:25,887 locked up inside their imperialcourt and they studied it. 1048 00:55:26,018 --> 00:55:29,238 And what they discoveredwas that there was a unique 1049 00:55:29,369 --> 00:55:33,025 literary code hidden in the text. 1050 00:55:33,155 --> 00:55:34,896 - [voiceover] This hiddencode, which was common 1051 00:55:35,027 --> 00:55:38,944 in Jewish scripture, was usedby the Flavian literary team 1052 00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:42,469 to place passages intothe gospels that had to be 1053 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,342 deciphered to be understood. 1054 00:55:45,472 --> 00:55:56,570 This hidden literary technique is known as typology. 1055 00:55:56,701 --> 00:56:00,661 - Typology is used throughoutthe ancient Hebraic literature 1056 00:56:00,792 --> 00:56:05,753 and it's a genre that isreally no longer understood 1057 00:56:05,884 --> 00:56:12,151 or used today, but simply put, typology is using 1058 00:56:12,281 --> 00:56:15,589 events from the past to provide 1059 00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,375 form and context for subsequentones. 1060 00:56:18,505 --> 00:56:22,030 - What we're talking aboutis stereotypic, stereotypic. 1061 00:56:22,161 --> 00:56:25,599 In other words, there's an idolized prototype 1062 00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:29,211 which shows certain characteristics 1063 00:56:29,342 --> 00:56:31,257 are performed in certain ways. 1064 00:56:31,388 --> 00:56:33,651 - For instance, one of thethings they do 1065 00:56:33,781 --> 00:56:37,785 is they take an old story andthey retell it in a new form, 1066 00:56:37,916 --> 00:56:42,268 and they superimpose contemporary history 1067 00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:48,579 upon old stories, and theycreate these multi-layered text. 1068 00:56:48,709 --> 00:56:53,061 - In Hebraic typology, textswere designed 1069 00:56:53,192 --> 00:56:55,673 to be read in comparison to oneanother 1070 00:56:55,803 --> 00:56:59,154 or inter-textually and in doingso, 1071 00:56:59,285 --> 00:57:02,027 a meaning that would not bevisible 1072 00:57:02,157 --> 00:57:04,856 in the surface narration wouldbecome 1073 00:57:04,986 --> 00:57:08,163 apparent to someone who understood the typologic 1074 00:57:08,294 --> 00:57:12,907 connection between the stories. 1075 00:57:13,038 --> 00:57:15,736 Hebraic typology connectsprophets. 1076 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:17,651 Events from the life of oneprophet 1077 00:57:17,782 --> 00:57:21,655 are placed into the life of a subsequent prophet, 1078 00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:24,528 and this shows thatthere is a divine pattern 1079 00:57:24,658 --> 00:57:28,619 established by God, connectinghis prophets to one another. 1080 00:57:28,749 --> 00:57:30,577 - [voiceover] The gospels actually show how we can 1081 00:57:30,708 --> 00:57:34,451 decipher for ourselves thishidden code or typology 1082 00:57:34,581 --> 00:57:39,194 that was used to create theJesus story. 1083 00:57:39,325 --> 00:57:45,331 [dramatic music] 1084 00:57:45,462 --> 00:57:47,376 - [joseph] At the verybeginning of the gospels, 1085 00:57:47,507 --> 00:57:50,162 there is a primer of this typology. 1086 00:57:50,292 --> 00:57:52,860 What the author of Matthew hasdone is 1087 00:57:52,991 --> 00:57:55,472 take events from the Old Testament 1088 00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:59,040 and place them into the life ofJesus. 1089 00:57:59,171 --> 00:58:01,434 These events occur in the samesequence 1090 00:58:01,565 --> 00:58:06,439 in the story of Jesus as theyoccur in the Old Testament. 1091 00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:08,223 - [voiceover] Numerousbible scholars had already 1092 00:58:08,354 --> 00:58:13,011 identified the following parallels. 1093 00:58:13,141 --> 00:58:15,230 - [joseph] Both stories havea patriarch named Joseph 1094 00:58:15,361 --> 00:58:21,323 who goes from Israel to Egypt. 1095 00:58:21,454 --> 00:58:26,415 A ruler who massacres innocentboys. 1096 00:58:26,546 --> 00:58:28,113 A divine character who statesthat, 1097 00:58:28,243 --> 00:58:35,294 "All the men are dead who sought your life." 1098 00:58:35,424 --> 00:58:40,691 And then a return from Egypt toIsrael. 1099 00:58:40,821 --> 00:58:45,565 This is followed by events whichhave passing through water. 1100 00:58:45,696 --> 00:58:47,001 In the Old Testament, theIsraelites 1101 00:58:47,132 --> 00:58:50,091 pass through the Red Sea. 1102 00:58:50,222 --> 00:58:53,660 In Matthew, Jesus is given abaptism 1103 00:58:53,791 --> 00:58:56,837 in which he passes throughwater. 1104 00:58:56,968 --> 00:59:00,232 We then travel into the wilderness. 1105 00:59:00,362 --> 00:59:03,496 The Israelites are in thewilderness for 40 years. 1106 00:59:03,627 --> 00:59:08,066 Jesus goes into the wilderness for 40 days. 1107 00:59:08,196 --> 00:59:10,895 Finally, we have the threetemptations. 1108 00:59:11,025 --> 00:59:14,028 In the Old Testament, wehave the temptation by bread, 1109 00:59:14,159 --> 00:59:16,683 the statement, "Do not tempt God." 1110 00:59:16,814 --> 00:59:19,686 And the commandment to worshiponly God. 1111 00:59:19,817 --> 00:59:22,167 These appear again in Matthewwhere Jesus 1112 00:59:22,297 --> 00:59:26,693 is tempted by bread, tellsthe Devil, "Do not tempt God." 1113 00:59:26,824 --> 00:59:30,828 And instructs him to worshiponly God. 1114 00:59:30,958 --> 00:59:33,613 Therefore, when youcompare the life of Jesus 1115 00:59:33,744 --> 00:59:36,616 with the life of Moses, you see a linkage 1116 00:59:36,747 --> 00:59:40,011 that shows that thecharacter in the gospels was 1117 00:59:40,141 --> 00:59:44,668 divinely connected to thecharacter in the Old Testament. 1118 00:59:44,798 --> 00:59:47,453 The life of the first savior of Israel, Moses, 1119 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:51,152 foresaw the life ofJesus, who's now claiming 1120 00:59:51,283 --> 00:59:55,548 to be the next savior of Israel. 1121 00:59:55,679 --> 00:59:58,029 - [voiceover] To understandthe rest of the Jesus story, 1122 00:59:58,159 --> 01:00:01,554 his adult ministry, we simplyneed to know that the same 1123 01:00:01,685 --> 01:00:06,690 system of parallel names, locations, and concepts 1124 01:00:06,820 --> 01:00:09,606 occurring in the same sequencewas used 1125 01:00:09,736 --> 01:00:12,173 to connect Jesus and the gospelsto 1126 01:00:12,304 --> 01:00:15,612 Titus and the works of Josephus. 1127 01:00:15,742 --> 01:00:18,223 Our scholars explain this gospeltypology 1128 01:00:18,353 --> 01:00:27,232 in the following three examples. 1129 01:00:27,362 --> 01:00:28,799 - Jesus comes to the sea ofGallilee 1130 01:00:28,929 --> 01:00:30,496 at the beginning of his ministry. 1131 01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:32,890 He gathers his disciples to him 1132 01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:36,633 and he says, "Do not be afraid. 1133 01:00:36,763 --> 01:00:40,767 "Follow me, and become fishersof men." 1134 01:00:40,898 --> 01:00:44,771 In the gospel of Luke, Jesusactually says catchers of men. 1135 01:00:44,902 --> 01:00:49,558 Titus comes to the samelocation, to the sea of Galilee. 1136 01:00:49,689 --> 01:00:52,997 He gathers his troops, his disciples together 1137 01:00:53,127 --> 01:00:54,433 and he says, "Don't be afraid." 1138 01:00:54,563 --> 01:00:56,174 And then he leads them. 1139 01:00:56,304 --> 01:01:02,789 They follow him, and theyattack a group of Jewish rebels. 1140 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,486 They sink the Jews' boats. 1141 01:01:04,617 --> 01:01:08,099 The Jews attempt to swim to safety and the Romans 1142 01:01:08,229 --> 01:01:11,276 use their spears to catch them. 1143 01:01:11,406 --> 01:01:16,934 They become fishers of men. 1144 01:01:17,064 --> 01:01:18,283 - The match isn't exact, 1145 01:01:18,413 --> 01:01:20,241 but we should never expect it tobe exact. 1146 01:01:20,372 --> 01:01:24,419 It's simply a type which is repeated across 1147 01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:31,426 the whole of the New Testament. 1148 01:01:31,557 --> 01:01:34,081 [foreboding music] 1149 01:01:34,212 --> 01:01:37,519 - Jesus is constantly dealingwith devils. 1150 01:01:37,650 --> 01:01:40,871 Josephus also deals with devils, but Josephus 1151 01:01:41,001 --> 01:01:43,221 defines who these devils are. 1152 01:01:43,351 --> 01:01:46,137 He states that the devilsare those individuals 1153 01:01:46,267 --> 01:01:51,795 who have a rebellious spiritand rebel against Rome. 1154 01:01:51,925 --> 01:01:55,363 At Gadara, Jesus encountersone man who has a legion 1155 01:01:55,494 --> 01:01:57,322 of demons inside his mind. 1156 01:01:57,452 --> 01:02:00,238 They, then, are driven out byJesus. 1157 01:02:00,368 --> 01:02:03,632 They infect a heard of swine andthis herd 1158 01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:06,026 rushes wildly into the water. 1159 01:02:06,157 --> 01:02:09,769 This is a parallel to Titus's battle at Gadara 1160 01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:14,731 where one individual infects an entire legion 1161 01:02:14,861 --> 01:02:17,864 of Jews with his demonic spiritand then 1162 01:02:17,995 --> 01:02:21,085 that group, in turn, infectsanother group 1163 01:02:21,215 --> 01:02:22,739 and this combined group 1164 01:02:22,869 --> 01:02:27,221 is driven by the Romans into thesea. 1165 01:02:27,352 --> 01:02:29,397 - What's being suggested here is that this story 1166 01:02:29,528 --> 01:02:31,573 that you find in thegospels is, in some ways, 1167 01:02:31,704 --> 01:02:36,796 sort of like a grim parallelabout that military event. 1168 01:02:36,927 --> 01:02:39,277 It's sort of like a bittongue and cheek, I think. 1169 01:02:39,407 --> 01:02:41,366 The Romans has a vicioussense of humor like this, 1170 01:02:41,496 --> 01:02:44,673 a very black sense of humor. 1171 01:02:44,804 --> 01:02:46,414 In a medieval text that I studied, 1172 01:02:46,545 --> 01:02:49,983 which is called the Gospelof Barnabas, when you read 1173 01:02:50,114 --> 01:02:52,812 that story, the way it's presented is in an 1174 01:02:52,943 --> 01:02:54,553 unsophisticated form. 1175 01:02:54,683 --> 01:02:57,861 That is to say it's sort of beendecoded 1176 01:02:57,991 --> 01:03:00,298 in some ways, and it becomesclear 1177 01:03:00,428 --> 01:03:06,304 what we're talking about here are Jewish rebels 1178 01:03:06,434 --> 01:03:09,916 chased into the sea and they drown into the sea. 1179 01:03:10,047 --> 01:03:14,094 In the gospels, these are presented as pigs. 1180 01:03:14,225 --> 01:03:17,924 This is a, once again, a verydark, 1181 01:03:18,055 --> 01:03:20,318 black, sort of, Roman sense ofhumor. 1182 01:03:20,448 --> 01:03:22,407 Some of this literature really 1183 01:03:22,537 --> 01:03:30,502 needs to be understood likethat. 1184 01:03:30,632 --> 01:03:33,374 - In Josephus's biography, hedescribes 1185 01:03:33,505 --> 01:03:36,334 when he was in theentourage of Titus during 1186 01:03:36,464 --> 01:03:39,163 the closing stages of the siege of Jerusalem, 1187 01:03:39,293 --> 01:03:42,862 he chanced upon three ofhis friends who were being 1188 01:03:42,993 --> 01:03:45,778 crucified, and he pleaded with Titus 1189 01:03:45,909 --> 01:03:50,827 for their release, andTitus gave that permission 1190 01:03:50,957 --> 01:03:53,742 and the three figures were removed from the cross. 1191 01:03:53,873 --> 01:03:57,529 Two of them died, and onerevived. 1192 01:03:57,659 --> 01:04:02,577 Now, if you're lookingfor a stereotypic example 1193 01:04:02,708 --> 01:04:07,800 of how some idea was floated into the mind of someone 1194 01:04:07,931 --> 01:04:10,847 writing the gospels, thatis a pretty clear example. 1195 01:04:10,977 --> 01:04:13,806 It's certainly a strange occurrence that we find 1196 01:04:13,937 --> 01:04:16,722 such an incident that wefind in the work of Josephus 1197 01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:20,813 when it shows up in such adramatic form in the gospels. 1198 01:04:20,944 --> 01:04:24,382 - [joseph] In the gospels,Joseph of Arimathea asked 1199 01:04:24,512 --> 01:04:28,255 the Roman commander to takeJesus down from the cross. 1200 01:04:28,386 --> 01:04:32,390 In Josephus's history, Joseph Bar Mathias 1201 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,695 asked the Roman commander to 1202 01:04:33,826 --> 01:04:36,089 take someone down from thecross. 1203 01:04:36,220 --> 01:04:42,661 Arimathea is a pun on Josephus'slast name, Bar Mathias. 1204 01:04:42,791 --> 01:04:46,056 - When you read oursources really carefully, 1205 01:04:46,186 --> 01:04:48,885 and you have to do it really, really carefully 1206 01:04:49,015 --> 01:04:51,844 because they didn't spell it outfor us. 1207 01:04:51,975 --> 01:04:54,673 It's effectively very well-hidden. 1208 01:04:54,803 --> 01:04:56,893 We have to understand that ourliterature, 1209 01:04:57,023 --> 01:05:00,505 a lot of our literatureis essentially propaganda. 1210 01:05:00,635 --> 01:05:02,768 The Romans are notwriting objective history, 1211 01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:06,728 and all of our literature hasbeen through Roman filters. 1212 01:05:06,859 --> 01:05:09,166 Perhaps that's the significance of the Dead Sea scrolls 1213 01:05:09,296 --> 01:05:10,602 that this literature that 1214 01:05:10,732 --> 01:05:13,648 hasn't been through the Romanfilters. 1215 01:05:13,779 --> 01:05:16,260 - It's important torealize that Josephus wrote 1216 01:05:16,390 --> 01:05:21,352 in an era when allegorywas regarded as a science. 1217 01:05:21,482 --> 01:05:23,658 Educated readers were expected to be able 1218 01:05:23,789 --> 01:05:27,836 to see another meaning inreligious texts 1219 01:05:27,967 --> 01:05:30,752 than the one that appearedin the surface narration. 1220 01:05:30,883 --> 01:05:32,319 - We're dealing with Romanliterature on the one hand 1221 01:05:32,450 --> 01:05:33,886 and Jewish literature on theother, 1222 01:05:34,017 --> 01:05:37,020 and it has to be said that inboth cases, 1223 01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:42,112 they're much more sophisticated,much more multi-layered 1224 01:05:42,242 --> 01:05:45,680 and allusive and much trickier 1225 01:05:45,811 --> 01:05:48,466 than modern readers suspect. 1226 01:05:48,596 --> 01:05:50,076 No, it's not a very simpleliterature. 1227 01:05:50,207 --> 01:05:53,166 It's very, very complex allegorical literature 1228 01:05:53,297 --> 01:05:55,429 that indulges into the literarygames 1229 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,040 that the Romans played. 1230 01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:59,390 The more you understand about Roman literature 1231 01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,219 in this period and then you place the gospels 1232 01:06:02,349 --> 01:06:06,310 and other Christian literaturein that same mirror, 1233 01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:07,789 you can start to see the games 1234 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,184 that are being played in thatliterature. 1235 01:06:11,315 --> 01:06:14,492 - Now these parallels havebeen seen by other scholars, 1236 01:06:14,622 --> 01:06:17,886 but what they failed tonotice is that they occur 1237 01:06:18,017 --> 01:06:20,628 in the same sequence, and thereby, 1238 01:06:20,759 --> 01:06:22,979 they create a typologic pattern. 1239 01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:26,069 - The Flavian thesis, it'strying to read these texts 1240 01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:29,115 in context because in any giventext, 1241 01:06:29,246 --> 01:06:31,770 you've got the text in the firstinstance, 1242 01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:34,903 and then you've got the context, the environment 1243 01:06:35,034 --> 01:06:37,689 in which it happens, and ofcourse, in all of these texts, 1244 01:06:37,819 --> 01:06:39,386 also, you've got a subtext. 1245 01:06:39,517 --> 01:06:42,172 So you've got text, context andsubtext, 1246 01:06:42,302 --> 01:06:45,349 and you have to be able toread all of those things 1247 01:06:45,479 --> 01:06:47,873 and unfortunately, many religious people 1248 01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:50,615 who are coming out ofseminaries, who are coming out 1249 01:06:50,745 --> 01:06:52,573 of religious colleges, they're just not 1250 01:06:52,704 --> 01:06:55,446 being trained in thissort of level of reading. 1251 01:06:55,576 --> 01:06:57,361 They're, instead, justbeing trained to just read 1252 01:06:57,491 --> 01:06:59,972 on one level, which is a literal level, 1253 01:07:00,103 --> 01:07:02,235 and I think that that's veryunfortunate 1254 01:07:02,366 --> 01:07:08,328 and that really needs to bechallenged. 1255 01:07:08,459 --> 01:07:10,330 - [voiceover] By studyingthe multiple layers 1256 01:07:10,461 --> 01:07:14,030 in these ancient texts inthe original Greek language, 1257 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,555 Joseph Atwill was able todiscover not just a handfu0l, 1258 01:07:17,685 --> 01:07:20,949 but over 40 typological parallels between 1259 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,213 the gospels and the works ofJosephus, 1260 01:07:23,343 --> 01:07:26,955 which show that the ministryof Jesus Christ followed 1261 01:07:27,086 --> 01:07:31,047 an exact sequence the militarycampaign of Titus Flavius 1262 01:07:31,177 --> 01:07:36,878 through parallel names, locations, and concepts. 1263 01:07:37,009 --> 01:07:39,098 - Once I understood the system that the Flavians 1264 01:07:39,229 --> 01:07:41,796 were using to link Jesus andTitus, 1265 01:07:41,927 --> 01:07:45,365 I was able to discoverdozens of these parallels 1266 01:07:45,496 --> 01:07:48,760 between Jesus and Titus, and what was amazing 1267 01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:51,719 is that they occurred in the same sequence. 1268 01:07:51,850 --> 01:07:54,983 And this simply provesthat this was deliberate, 1269 01:07:55,114 --> 01:07:58,509 that these unusualparallels had been created 1270 01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:01,077 by the Flavians as a signature. 1271 01:08:01,207 --> 01:08:04,776 It is their way of telling posterity that 1272 01:08:04,906 --> 01:08:06,604 they authored the gospels. 1273 01:08:06,734 --> 01:08:12,175 These parallels are the Flaviansignature of the gospels. 1274 01:08:12,305 --> 01:08:26,102 [triumphant music] 1275 01:08:26,232 --> 01:08:27,929 Both Jesus and Titus began their 1276 01:08:28,059 --> 01:08:30,062 campaigns at the Sea of Galilee 1277 01:08:30,193 --> 01:08:32,890 and then go into the Galileancountryside 1278 01:08:33,021 --> 01:08:35,719 followed by a journey to Jerusalem. 1279 01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:37,983 Once they reach the city'soutskirts, 1280 01:08:38,113 --> 01:08:40,898 they pause for a period beforethey enter. 1281 01:08:41,029 --> 01:08:42,901 Finally, they leave the city 1282 01:08:43,031 --> 01:08:48,036 where their campaigns come to anend. 1283 01:08:48,166 --> 01:08:50,822 To catalog the manyparallels, I gave each one 1284 01:08:50,952 --> 01:08:53,912 a convenient name that related to the concept 1285 01:08:54,041 --> 01:08:56,219 in that particular parallel set. 1286 01:08:56,349 --> 01:08:59,526 Starting at Galilee, eachof these are episodes 1287 01:08:59,657 --> 01:09:02,268 that occurred both in thegospel stories of Jesus 1288 01:09:02,398 --> 01:09:08,448 and in the history ofTitus's military campaign. 1289 01:09:08,578 --> 01:09:14,845 [upbeat music] 1290 01:09:14,976 --> 01:09:17,675 Both Jesus and Titus journeyed to Jerusalem, 1291 01:09:17,805 --> 01:09:20,460 each sending messengers ahead tomeet him 1292 01:09:20,591 --> 01:09:28,512 when he gets to the city. 1293 01:09:28,642 --> 01:09:30,077 When the Romans get to Jerusalem, 1294 01:09:30,209 --> 01:09:32,210 they notice that the Jewishfactions are fighting 1295 01:09:32,342 --> 01:09:33,778 against themselves. 1296 01:09:33,907 --> 01:09:35,780 At this point in the gospels, 1297 01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:39,175 Jesus talks about a housedivided 1298 01:09:39,305 --> 01:09:43,613 against itself cannot stand. 1299 01:09:43,744 --> 01:09:47,139 Then Josephus wrote thatin preparation for battle, 1300 01:09:47,270 --> 01:09:49,707 Titus ordered all of the fruit trees 1301 01:09:49,836 --> 01:09:51,056 between the Roman camp 1302 01:09:51,187 --> 01:09:53,928 and the walls of Jerusalem cutdown. 1303 01:09:54,059 --> 01:09:57,628 At this point in thegospels, Jesus states that 1304 01:09:57,758 --> 01:10:07,202 if a fruit tree does notbear fruit tree, cut it down. 1305 01:10:07,333 --> 01:10:10,423 Titus goes around the walls of Jerusalem 1306 01:10:10,554 --> 01:10:13,861 looking for the bestplace to construct a tower 1307 01:10:13,992 --> 01:10:17,038 from which they can launch their attack. 1308 01:10:17,169 --> 01:10:20,346 At this point in the gospels,Jesus asks, 1309 01:10:20,477 --> 01:10:23,784 "Which one of you who is going to build a tower 1310 01:10:23,915 --> 01:10:29,702 "doesn't first sit downand think about the cost?" 1311 01:10:29,834 --> 01:10:33,446 At this point in thehistory, Titus sends Josephus 1312 01:10:33,577 --> 01:10:37,885 to ask the Jews what termsthey will accept for peace. 1313 01:10:38,016 --> 01:10:41,846 In the gospels, Jesusdescribes a king who sends 1314 01:10:41,976 --> 01:10:48,505 a delegation to ask for terms of peace. 1315 01:10:48,635 --> 01:10:51,508 Both Jesus and Titus atthis point have triumphant 1316 01:10:51,638 --> 01:10:56,513 entrances into Jerusalem, during which amazingly, 1317 01:10:56,643 --> 01:11:06,349 stones are said to cry out. 1318 01:11:06,478 --> 01:11:08,699 Each, then, drives a den ofthieves 1319 01:11:08,829 --> 01:11:11,528 out from the area from in front of the temple. 1320 01:11:11,657 --> 01:11:14,487 This is followed by Titusencircling Jerusalem 1321 01:11:14,618 --> 01:11:17,534 with a wall, and Jesus predicting that 1322 01:11:17,664 --> 01:11:24,105 Jerusalem will be encircled witha wall. 1323 01:11:24,236 --> 01:11:27,544 Because of the walls,starvation sets into Jerusalem. 1324 01:11:27,674 --> 01:11:30,155 Josephus wrote that a woman named Mary 1325 01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:33,245 who called her son a myth forthe world 1326 01:11:33,376 --> 01:11:36,814 slayed him, ate him, thereby turning him into 1327 01:11:36,943 --> 01:11:40,296 a human Passover lamb. 1328 01:11:40,425 --> 01:11:44,822 In the gospels, we now have the Last Supper. 1329 01:11:44,952 --> 01:11:47,955 Jesus tells his disciples,"Take, eat. 1330 01:11:48,085 --> 01:11:49,305 "This is my body. 1331 01:11:49,434 --> 01:11:50,915 "This is my blood." 1332 01:11:51,045 --> 01:11:56,702 Therefore, turning himinto a human Passover lamb. 1333 01:11:56,834 --> 01:11:59,532 Here, then, is theFlavian signature of their 1334 01:11:59,663 --> 01:12:03,449 authorship of the gospels. 1335 01:12:03,580 --> 01:12:05,059 - You can see the fingerprints that 1336 01:12:05,190 --> 01:12:08,062 they've left their fingerprintsall over these texts. 1337 01:12:08,193 --> 01:12:12,937 You can start to, as it were, decode these texts 1338 01:12:13,067 --> 01:12:16,419 and start to arrive at somereally startling conclusions 1339 01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:23,643 about how early Christianityfirst arose. 1340 01:12:23,773 --> 01:12:25,384 - [voiceover] Our scholars haveshown 1341 01:12:25,514 --> 01:12:27,821 that the gospels were not theproduct of primitive Jewish 1342 01:12:27,952 --> 01:12:31,389 fisherman, rather they are asophisticated literary work 1343 01:12:31,521 --> 01:12:33,958 combining religious ideas of theday 1344 01:12:34,088 --> 01:12:38,397 with Roman political perspective and power. 1345 01:12:38,528 --> 01:12:40,181 Joseph Atwill's research revealsthat 1346 01:12:40,312 --> 01:12:42,619 reading the works of Josephusconcurrently 1347 01:12:42,749 --> 01:12:44,969 with the New Testament shows that the events 1348 01:12:45,099 --> 01:12:47,101 of Jesus's life were not historical, 1349 01:12:47,232 --> 01:12:49,843 but rather all of them aredependent 1350 01:12:49,974 --> 01:12:54,413 on the events of the militarycampaign of Titus Flavius. 1351 01:12:54,544 --> 01:12:58,374 Jesus Christ was an allegoryfor the Roman Caesar Titus, 1352 01:12:58,504 --> 01:13:01,725 the Messiah of the Roman Empire, the Roman son 1353 01:13:01,855 --> 01:13:10,081 of a god that Christianitywas set up to worship. 1354 01:13:10,210 --> 01:13:11,343 - I certainly don't want toundermine 1355 01:13:11,474 --> 01:13:14,128 the positive things in Christianity. 1356 01:13:14,259 --> 01:13:16,434 I'm happy to admit thatthere are positive things 1357 01:13:16,566 --> 01:13:19,699 in Christianity and in other religions as well. 1358 01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:21,745 What's an issue here are the 1359 01:13:21,875 --> 01:13:24,530 historical claims of thesereligions. 1360 01:13:24,661 --> 01:13:26,837 - [voiceover] Traditionally,religious dogma 1361 01:13:26,967 --> 01:13:30,362 has forbidden the examinationof historical discoveries 1362 01:13:30,493 --> 01:13:33,974 or the inclusion ofcertain scientific findings 1363 01:13:34,105 --> 01:13:37,151 in their teachings, asking their followers instead 1364 01:13:37,282 --> 01:13:39,675 to blindly believe as they say, 1365 01:13:39,806 --> 01:13:43,680 not as the objective facts mayshow. 1366 01:13:43,809 --> 01:13:45,638 - Even if a time, perhaps it's anew 1367 01:13:45,769 --> 01:13:47,597 intellectual renaissance whichis 1368 01:13:47,727 --> 01:13:50,513 getting fed up with many of thestructures 1369 01:13:50,643 --> 01:13:53,037 that we live with, which isrecognizing 1370 01:13:53,166 --> 01:13:55,822 major frauds at the hearts of our financial 1371 01:13:55,952 --> 01:13:57,911 market and the heart of ourindustry 1372 01:13:58,041 --> 01:14:00,348 and the plug is being pulled onthem. 1373 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:04,091 And my view is that we have yet another fraud, 1374 01:14:04,222 --> 01:14:06,224 the biggest of them all, and it's the fraud 1375 01:14:06,353 --> 01:14:08,618 of the heart of Christianity. 1376 01:14:08,748 --> 01:14:12,752 And it is a time for thewhistleblowers to come out 1377 01:14:12,883 --> 01:14:15,538 and to make this information available 1378 01:14:15,668 --> 01:14:18,279 not just to scholars in academicjournals, 1379 01:14:18,410 --> 01:14:19,977 but to have it widely available 1380 01:14:20,107 --> 01:14:23,284 to anybody who wants to know. 1381 01:14:23,415 --> 01:14:24,721 - [voiceover] It's helpful tohear 1382 01:14:24,851 --> 01:14:26,679 a wide diversity ofvoices in order for people 1383 01:14:26,809 --> 01:14:29,116 to arrive at their own conclusions, 1384 01:14:29,246 --> 01:14:31,771 and the theories brought forth by our scholars 1385 01:14:31,902 --> 01:14:35,253 are a part of that diversity. 1386 01:14:35,383 --> 01:14:36,907 - When they hear that theJesus story is a myth, 1387 01:14:37,037 --> 01:14:38,648 people feel like you're taking something away, 1388 01:14:38,778 --> 01:14:40,954 but you're really not. 1389 01:14:41,085 --> 01:14:43,000 You push people and you go, "Why do you believe 1390 01:14:43,130 --> 01:14:44,001 "in the historical Jesus?" 1391 01:14:44,130 --> 01:14:45,393 Often people will go, 1392 01:14:45,523 --> 01:14:46,699 "Well, you know, the Bible orsomething." 1393 01:14:46,830 --> 01:14:48,179 But when you go, "Well, have you studied it 1394 01:14:48,309 --> 01:14:49,397 "as a historical document? 1395 01:14:49,528 --> 01:14:50,790 "Have you looked at the evidence?" 1396 01:14:50,921 --> 01:14:52,226 They'll go, "Well, no, I haven't." 1397 01:14:52,357 --> 01:14:53,837 So that's not the real reason. 1398 01:14:53,967 --> 01:14:56,579 The real reason, when you pushpeople is, 1399 01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:59,625 "Well, I have a relationshipwith Jesus. 1400 01:14:59,755 --> 01:15:02,498 "I have a personal relationship with Jesus, 1401 01:15:02,628 --> 01:15:03,760 "and that's what I don't want tolose." 1402 01:15:03,889 --> 01:15:06,589 And that's a really good reasona Gnostic, 1403 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,896 and really bad reason to be a Literatalist. 1404 01:15:10,027 --> 01:15:11,289 - [voiceover] The Gnostics, aswell as 1405 01:15:11,419 --> 01:15:13,465 pre-Christian pagan mysteryschools 1406 01:15:13,596 --> 01:15:16,250 believed that the myth ofthe dying and resurrecting 1407 01:15:16,380 --> 01:15:20,341 god man was an allegory tobe used for personal growth, 1408 01:15:20,472 --> 01:15:22,648 to die to their lower nature 1409 01:15:22,779 --> 01:15:25,303 and arise to their highernature. 1410 01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:28,132 The Literalists took controlof the original myths 1411 01:15:28,262 --> 01:15:30,787 and shaped it so it would takethe power 1412 01:15:30,916 --> 01:15:32,440 away from the individual 1413 01:15:32,571 --> 01:15:35,487 and place it into a centralauthority. 1414 01:15:35,618 --> 01:15:38,184 Rediscovering the originalmyths gives people 1415 01:15:38,316 --> 01:15:43,713 the freedom to choose thebeliefs that truly served them. 1416 01:15:43,843 --> 01:15:46,367 - Okay, some Christians havedeveloped 1417 01:15:46,498 --> 01:15:50,327 their personal faith to theextent that 1418 01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:55,420 that Christ is this energy orforce of power within them. 1419 01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:59,293 This is how they haveinterpreted the story now. 1420 01:15:59,424 --> 01:16:02,469 The story has become, again, 1421 01:16:02,601 --> 01:16:06,562 what it actually began as, an allegory. 1422 01:16:06,692 --> 01:16:08,564 I have no issue with the Christwithin. 1423 01:16:08,693 --> 01:16:13,830 I have an issue with the churchmilitant. 1424 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,530 What threatens humanityis organized, regimentized 1425 01:16:18,661 --> 01:16:22,665 religion on the march, taken so seriously 1426 01:16:22,795 --> 01:16:30,803 that you will act out its worstpresets. 1427 01:16:30,934 --> 01:16:32,544 - [voiceover] If weexamine all the religions 1428 01:16:32,675 --> 01:16:35,852 of the world, we find that there is a common threat 1429 01:16:35,982 --> 01:16:38,985 that connects all faiths and allpeople, 1430 01:16:39,116 --> 01:16:42,075 and it is from thisconnection that we can make 1431 01:16:42,206 --> 01:16:48,168 the choices that have now becomeso critical to our future. 1432 01:16:48,299 --> 01:16:51,998 - I like to focus on theorigins of religious ideas 1433 01:16:52,129 --> 01:16:55,088 and it turns out that they're very unifying underneath 1434 01:16:55,219 --> 01:16:58,744 all of the divisivenessthat we see on the surface 1435 01:16:58,875 --> 01:17:02,052 that would be extremelyhelpful for all of humanity 1436 01:17:02,182 --> 01:17:05,838 to realize that there is this underlying unity 1437 01:17:05,969 --> 01:17:10,800 and those origins arebasically nature worship: 1438 01:17:10,930 --> 01:17:14,281 the study of the sun, themoon, the stars, the planets. 1439 01:17:14,412 --> 01:17:19,025 This is all what humanity has been looking at, 1440 01:17:19,156 --> 01:17:21,811 of course, with great awe andreverence 1441 01:17:21,941 --> 01:17:24,987 for thousands of years andit's extremely important, 1442 01:17:25,118 --> 01:17:27,077 I think, for us, to get back to those roots. 1443 01:17:27,207 --> 01:17:29,383 The destruction of the planet is also directly 1444 01:17:29,514 --> 01:17:32,473 tied to religious ideas. 1445 01:17:32,603 --> 01:17:34,867 This can help to restore balance to the planet, 1446 01:17:34,998 --> 01:17:37,434 in this very, veryprofoundly significant way. 1447 01:17:37,565 --> 01:17:39,916 - [voiceover] The very survival of humanity 1448 01:17:40,046 --> 01:17:42,962 depends on the viewinghistory from a new perspective 1449 01:17:43,093 --> 01:17:46,313 so that we can be clearer on the historical facts 1450 01:17:46,443 --> 01:17:51,797 and still honor the myths thatoffer us the greatest wisdom. 1451 01:17:51,928 --> 01:17:54,103 - It's what the myth, what thepoetry says 1452 01:17:54,234 --> 01:17:58,151 that matters, not what actuallyhappened. 1453 01:17:58,282 --> 01:17:59,936 So each new generation, whateveryou say, 1454 01:18:00,066 --> 01:18:05,289 is going to hear the myth andthat's what is true for them. 1455 01:18:05,419 --> 01:18:08,335 And what follows is theactual history and it's much 1456 01:18:08,466 --> 01:18:10,642 too complex for the average person to ever 1457 01:18:10,773 --> 01:18:12,949 put their head around. 1458 01:18:13,079 --> 01:18:15,516 - [voiceover] Though theactual history is complex, 1459 01:18:15,647 --> 01:18:17,693 and we may never know all of the facts about 1460 01:18:17,823 --> 01:18:20,173 what happened 2,000 years ago, 1461 01:18:20,304 --> 01:18:23,133 the voices of ourscholars are contributing 1462 01:18:23,263 --> 01:18:26,005 to an ever-widening dialogue and the growing 1463 01:18:26,136 --> 01:18:29,400 paradigm shift beingwitnessed all around the world 1464 01:18:29,530 --> 01:18:32,403 today that can lead to a more empowered 1465 01:18:32,532 --> 01:18:36,755 and enlightened humanity tomorrow. 1466 01:18:36,886 --> 01:18:39,671 - This is reallyimportant for our culture, 1467 01:18:39,802 --> 01:18:42,892 to understand where Christianity came from, 1468 01:18:43,022 --> 01:18:45,111 and this is direct evidence. 1469 01:18:45,242 --> 01:18:49,202 You can actually walk this pathand come to this conclusion. 1470 01:18:49,333 --> 01:18:51,378 You can know that Christianity 1471 01:18:51,509 --> 01:18:53,119 was an invention of the Romans. 1472 01:18:53,250 --> 01:18:56,949 It was done to pacify theirsubjects, 1473 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:58,907 and this is important because itgives us 1474 01:18:59,038 --> 01:19:01,171 a different way ofunderstanding government, 1475 01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:04,130 how government operates, thetools that government uses, 1476 01:19:04,261 --> 01:19:06,350 the purpose that government has for the 1477 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,875 various propaganda apparatus. 1478 01:19:10,005 --> 01:19:12,094 Evangelical Christians aregetting away 1479 01:19:12,225 --> 01:19:14,662 with debunking facts as meretheories. 1480 01:19:14,793 --> 01:19:16,708 Even subjects like evolution, 1481 01:19:16,839 --> 01:19:19,276 but they provide noevidence for their position 1482 01:19:19,406 --> 01:19:22,061 other than to simply cite religious dogma, 1483 01:19:22,192 --> 01:19:24,585 and if you look at the influence that dogma 1484 01:19:24,716 --> 01:19:26,674 is having in the media today, 1485 01:19:26,805 --> 01:19:29,634 you can easily see it is increasing. 1486 01:19:29,764 --> 01:19:31,723 I would like to challenge theseextremists 1487 01:19:31,853 --> 01:19:36,989 to consider the possibilitythat my findings are correct. 1488 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:40,123 Though their is much good inChristianity, 1489 01:19:40,253 --> 01:19:45,215 we have to understand how rulershave used it to control us, 1490 01:19:45,344 --> 01:19:50,175 and how they are still usingit to control us today. 1491 01:19:50,307 --> 01:19:52,178 I hope citizens will be moreskeptical 1492 01:19:52,309 --> 01:19:54,267 when they hear an authorityfigure 1493 01:19:54,398 --> 01:19:58,358 using faith to interpret laws ora belief 1494 01:19:58,489 --> 01:20:01,971 in Armageddon to create governmental policies. 1495 01:20:02,101 --> 01:20:05,278 The Flavians encoded a secretmessage into the gospels, 1496 01:20:05,409 --> 01:20:08,499 which we can nowunderstand in a new light. 1497 01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:16,507 "You shall know the truth andthe truth shall set you free." 1498 01:20:16,637 --> 01:20:55,285 [triumphant music] 1499 01:20:55,415 --> 01:21:20,701 [upbeat music] 1500 01:21:20,832 --> 01:21:50,601 [upbeat music] 1501 01:21:50,731 --> 01:22:20,457 [upbeat music] 1502 01:22:20,587 --> 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