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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,673 --> 00:00:10,923 [amplifier feedback] 2 00:00:19,172 --> 00:00:23,130 [concertgoers cheering] 3 00:00:24,881 --> 00:00:27,381 [clapping rhythmically] 4 00:00:27,464 --> 00:00:31,214 [screaming and cheering] 5 00:00:33,506 --> 00:00:35,964 [Jane Wiedlin] We are the first all-girl band 6 00:00:36,047 --> 00:00:37,923 that wrote their own material and played 7 00:00:38,005 --> 00:00:40,881 their own instruments to be really successful. 8 00:00:40,964 --> 00:00:42,381 [crowd cheering] 9 00:00:42,464 --> 00:00:45,506 Alright, this is for you for being so nice. 10 00:00:45,589 --> 00:00:46,631 [cheering] 11 00:00:46,714 --> 00:00:48,047 [drumsticks tapping] 12 00:00:48,130 --> 00:00:53,172 [band playing "Can't Stop the World"] 13 00:00:53,255 --> 00:00:58,172 ♪♪♪ 14 00:01:03,255 --> 00:01:07,255 ♪ I gave up looking for a reason ♪ 15 00:01:08,422 --> 00:01:11,923 ♪ To live with things just the way they were ♪ 16 00:01:13,923 --> 00:01:16,172 ♪ I came around, used to be ♪ 17 00:01:16,255 --> 00:01:18,798 ♪ Easy to get to so they ♪ 18 00:01:18,881 --> 00:01:22,381 ♪ Got to me in just about every way ♪ 19 00:01:22,464 --> 00:01:24,881 ♪ Caught with no cards up your sleeve ♪ 20 00:01:24,964 --> 00:01:27,130 ♪ Not much to choose from ♪ 21 00:01:28,089 --> 00:01:29,547 ♪ Grew up all along ♪ 22 00:01:29,631 --> 00:01:32,047 ♪ Just thinking that you couldn't lose ♪ 23 00:01:34,130 --> 00:01:36,756 ♪ I came around, used to be ♪ 24 00:01:36,839 --> 00:01:39,214 ♪ Easy to get to so they ♪ 25 00:01:39,297 --> 00:01:43,172 ♪ Got to me in just about every way ♪ 26 00:01:44,130 --> 00:01:46,381 ♪ Can't stop the world ♪ 27 00:01:46,464 --> 00:01:50,381 ♪ Can't stop the world, why let it stop you? ♪ 28 00:01:50,464 --> 00:01:53,381 [Belinda Carlisle] People automatically assumed 29 00:01:53,464 --> 00:01:55,714 that we were probably put together by some guy, 30 00:01:55,798 --> 00:01:58,214 but we did it all ourselves. 31 00:01:58,297 --> 00:01:59,547 Let's go! 32 00:01:59,631 --> 00:02:03,464 [band playing instrumental break] 33 00:02:03,547 --> 00:02:08,464 ♪♪♪ 34 00:02:08,547 --> 00:02:10,547 [Charlotte Caffey] We got on stage, 35 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:13,714 and it happened to be a group of women really kicking ass. 36 00:02:13,798 --> 00:02:15,255 It was great. 37 00:02:15,339 --> 00:02:17,381 [Kathy Valentine] One in a million bands 38 00:02:17,464 --> 00:02:19,422 gets to where we got. 39 00:02:19,506 --> 00:02:21,964 [Gina Schock] America knew who The Go-Go's were. 40 00:02:22,047 --> 00:02:24,339 [male announcer] These are The Go-Go's. 41 00:02:24,422 --> 00:02:26,839 Charlotte Caffey, Gina Schock, 42 00:02:26,923 --> 00:02:29,881 Jane Wiedlin, Kathy Valentine 43 00:02:29,964 --> 00:02:31,798 and Belinda Carlisle. 44 00:02:31,881 --> 00:02:35,422 The greatest all-girl group of all time, The Go-Go's. 45 00:02:35,506 --> 00:02:36,589 [man] The Go-Go's! 46 00:02:36,673 --> 00:02:38,506 -[woman] The Go-Go's! -[cheering] 47 00:02:38,589 --> 00:02:40,839 [Kathy] We were really making big strides, 48 00:02:40,923 --> 00:02:42,089 loving what we were doing 49 00:02:42,172 --> 00:02:44,506 and being in that moment of, like, wow! 50 00:02:44,589 --> 00:02:47,422 ♪ Can't stop the world... ♪ 51 00:02:47,506 --> 00:02:50,506 [Belinda] I couldn't walk down the street at that time. 52 00:02:50,589 --> 00:02:52,714 That's how famous The Go-Go's were. 53 00:02:52,798 --> 00:02:54,631 [Jane] In the course of a year, 54 00:02:54,714 --> 00:02:57,673 we had gone from playing dive bars to Madison Square Garden. 55 00:02:57,756 --> 00:02:59,047 ♪ Can't stop the world ♪ 56 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:00,673 [Gina] I was on top of the world, 57 00:03:00,756 --> 00:03:02,047 I felt like we had made it. 58 00:03:02,130 --> 00:03:04,381 [song ending] 59 00:03:07,589 --> 00:03:11,089 [crowd cheering and applauding] 60 00:03:14,547 --> 00:03:16,798 [instruments tuning] 61 00:03:16,881 --> 00:03:19,422 [Jane] There never would have been The Go-Go's 62 00:03:19,506 --> 00:03:22,464 without the punk rock scene in Los Angeles. 63 00:03:22,547 --> 00:03:25,964 [MC] Well, you got it! From Hollywood, The Go-Go's! 64 00:03:26,047 --> 00:03:28,047 [Margot] Happy Saint Patrick's Day. 65 00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:30,339 [crowd cheering] 66 00:03:31,214 --> 00:03:33,339 There's a problem with the monitor here, 67 00:03:33,422 --> 00:03:35,214 and I'm getting shocked. 68 00:03:35,297 --> 00:03:36,339 Sorry. 69 00:03:38,506 --> 00:03:41,964 [Belinda] At the time, there were 50 kids tops 70 00:03:42,047 --> 00:03:44,255 in the L.A. punk scene. 71 00:03:44,339 --> 00:03:46,005 It was D.I.Y. 72 00:03:46,089 --> 00:03:48,339 and if you were terrible you were cooler, 73 00:03:48,422 --> 00:03:50,756 and anybody could do whatever they wanted. 74 00:03:50,839 --> 00:03:52,172 It was total freedom. 75 00:03:52,255 --> 00:03:54,506 ♪ Don't assume that we never think ♪ 76 00:03:54,589 --> 00:03:56,547 ♪ You think you know but you haven't a clue ♪ 77 00:03:56,631 --> 00:03:58,381 -♪ 'Cause we're ♪ -♪ We're ♪ 78 00:03:58,464 --> 00:03:59,923 -♪ Here... -♪ Here ♪ 79 00:04:00,005 --> 00:04:02,089 -♪ Now... -♪ Now ♪ 80 00:04:02,172 --> 00:04:05,798 ♪ We don't need you around ♪ 81 00:04:07,047 --> 00:04:09,839 [Elissa Bello] It was about feeling emotion, anger, rage, 82 00:04:09,923 --> 00:04:12,005 and you got to express it. 83 00:04:12,089 --> 00:04:14,506 And the rawer the better. 84 00:04:14,589 --> 00:04:17,214 ♪♪♪ 85 00:04:17,297 --> 00:04:19,881 ♪ Don't make the mistake of criticizing ♪ 86 00:04:19,964 --> 00:04:21,798 ♪ Don't even bother patronizing ♪ 87 00:04:21,881 --> 00:04:25,464 I was such a punk, it was like my identity. 88 00:04:26,756 --> 00:04:30,589 Being in The Go-Go's meant being more involved in the scene 89 00:04:30,673 --> 00:04:34,923 with all your friends, just a great sense of belonging. 90 00:04:35,005 --> 00:04:37,130 ♪ ...around ♪ 91 00:04:37,214 --> 00:04:39,381 ♪ And we're... ♪ 92 00:04:39,464 --> 00:04:41,839 [Charlotte] I was a little bit of an outsider 93 00:04:41,923 --> 00:04:44,297 because I wasn't overtly punk rock. 94 00:04:44,381 --> 00:04:45,881 You wouldn't think so looking at me, 95 00:04:45,964 --> 00:04:48,714 I look really straight, but I have a very twisted mind. 96 00:04:48,798 --> 00:04:52,714 ♪♪♪ 97 00:04:52,798 --> 00:04:55,381 We hated society and our parents, 98 00:04:55,464 --> 00:04:58,047 but we supported each other. 99 00:04:58,130 --> 00:05:00,297 Everyone was welcome, 100 00:05:00,381 --> 00:05:02,589 outcasts, geeks, gays, straights, 101 00:05:02,673 --> 00:05:04,756 people of color, women. 102 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,214 It was inclusive. 103 00:05:07,297 --> 00:05:08,839 -♪ 'Cause we're ♪ -♪ We're ♪ 104 00:05:08,923 --> 00:05:10,130 -♪ Here ♪ -♪ Here ♪ 105 00:05:10,214 --> 00:05:11,589 -♪ Now ♪ -♪ Now ♪ 106 00:05:11,673 --> 00:05:13,756 And that was a great place for me to be, 107 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,506 because I always felt like I didn't fit in. 108 00:05:19,005 --> 00:05:20,464 I kind of have this image 109 00:05:20,547 --> 00:05:22,798 of being this really happy person, and I can be. 110 00:05:22,881 --> 00:05:25,714 But I have this thing in me that's just always there, 111 00:05:25,798 --> 00:05:27,839 like, ugh, urgh. 112 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,506 I have a lifelong history of depression. 113 00:05:32,589 --> 00:05:36,005 When I was 15, I tried to kill myself. 114 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:40,339 Right around that same time 115 00:05:40,422 --> 00:05:42,130 I was looking at Women's Wear Daily 116 00:05:42,214 --> 00:05:45,255 and they had all these photos of the London punk scene. 117 00:05:46,214 --> 00:05:47,881 Oh, my God, it really spoke to me. 118 00:05:47,964 --> 00:05:50,464 I was like, "Ah, I want this!" 119 00:05:50,547 --> 00:05:52,714 So I just started making my own punk clothes, 120 00:05:52,798 --> 00:05:56,089 and one weekend I went to this store on Sunset Strip 121 00:05:56,172 --> 00:05:58,547 that was called Granny Takes a Trip, 122 00:05:58,631 --> 00:06:02,130 and while I was in there I met Pleasant Gehman. 123 00:06:03,714 --> 00:06:06,172 This little girl came in, she had huge eyes. 124 00:06:06,255 --> 00:06:09,089 She looked like an anime action figure. 125 00:06:09,172 --> 00:06:10,297 She had these shirts 126 00:06:10,381 --> 00:06:13,089 that had two zippers sewn in over the boobs, 127 00:06:13,172 --> 00:06:15,798 and so, when you unzipped them, you know, 128 00:06:15,881 --> 00:06:18,964 your bra or your bare boobs would come out. 129 00:06:19,047 --> 00:06:22,005 [Jane] She told me that there was a scene in Hollywood, 130 00:06:22,089 --> 00:06:23,214 a punk scene, 131 00:06:23,297 --> 00:06:26,005 and she gave me a flyer for this club called The Masque. 132 00:06:26,089 --> 00:06:29,130 [punk band playing] 133 00:06:29,214 --> 00:06:30,798 [indistinct shouting] 134 00:06:30,881 --> 00:06:32,339 [feedback] 135 00:06:32,422 --> 00:06:36,881 In the punk scene, there was just so much energy and anger. 136 00:06:36,964 --> 00:06:40,047 ♪♪♪ 137 00:06:40,130 --> 00:06:43,589 And having suppressed bad feelings my whole life, 138 00:06:43,673 --> 00:06:47,130 the suicide attempt was obviously it trying to come out, 139 00:06:47,214 --> 00:06:48,798 and then, becoming a punk rocker, 140 00:06:48,881 --> 00:06:51,464 I felt was a really positive way for it to come out. 141 00:06:53,172 --> 00:06:56,631 People used to cross the street when they saw me. 142 00:06:56,714 --> 00:06:59,589 I felt powerful for the first time. 143 00:07:01,130 --> 00:07:03,381 I just felt like I had found my home. 144 00:07:05,422 --> 00:07:08,005 [Belinda] The punk scene gave me an outlet to act out 145 00:07:08,089 --> 00:07:12,172 and be the badass that I thought I was. 146 00:07:13,339 --> 00:07:15,464 I'm the oldest of seven kids. 147 00:07:15,547 --> 00:07:18,381 My father left when I was five. 148 00:07:18,464 --> 00:07:21,339 My stepfather was hardcore, 149 00:07:21,422 --> 00:07:23,881 very much an old-school disciplinarian. 150 00:07:23,964 --> 00:07:25,839 We had no money. 151 00:07:25,923 --> 00:07:27,756 I remember growing up and being in school 152 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,881 and always feeling like I was pretending to be something 153 00:07:30,964 --> 00:07:32,839 that I probably wasn't... 154 00:07:32,923 --> 00:07:36,464 I was a real good student, I was a cheerleader. 155 00:07:36,547 --> 00:07:38,506 Does anybody have a cigarette? 156 00:07:38,589 --> 00:07:41,214 ...But then, I discovered the punk scene, 157 00:07:41,297 --> 00:07:45,589 and that opened up a whole new world for me. 158 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,631 [Pleasant] Everybody in the L.A. punk rock scene, 159 00:07:49,714 --> 00:07:53,422 it was like there was invisible smoke signals 160 00:07:53,506 --> 00:07:55,130 getting sent out of, like, you know, 161 00:07:55,214 --> 00:07:57,673 "You need to go to this club on that night." 162 00:07:58,964 --> 00:08:02,339 And the Sex Pistols were playing at Winterland in San Francisco 163 00:08:02,422 --> 00:08:04,839 and pretty much everybody in L.A. drove up. 164 00:08:06,714 --> 00:08:09,714 It was really like a religious pilgrimage. 165 00:08:09,798 --> 00:08:12,923 They were just the kings of the original, original punk scene. 166 00:08:13,005 --> 00:08:17,631 ♪ Problem, problem, problem, problem... ♪ 167 00:08:18,798 --> 00:08:21,756 [Jane] The Sex Pistols gave this, like, slacker performance 168 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:24,214 that wasn't compelling at all. 169 00:08:25,005 --> 00:08:27,214 Johnny Rotten at the end of the show 170 00:08:27,297 --> 00:08:29,964 said the famous quote of his. 171 00:08:30,047 --> 00:08:31,381 [Johnny laughing] 172 00:08:31,464 --> 00:08:34,089 Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? 173 00:08:34,172 --> 00:08:35,798 Good night! 174 00:08:36,631 --> 00:08:38,339 [Jane] You know, it was kind of like, 175 00:08:38,422 --> 00:08:40,839 "Oh, man, you guys were our heroes" 176 00:08:40,923 --> 00:08:42,089 and they kind of suck. 177 00:08:43,714 --> 00:08:48,631 And it also felt like the first wave of punk was sort of dying. 178 00:08:48,714 --> 00:08:51,881 It was time for some new people to start doing something. 179 00:08:53,047 --> 00:08:55,714 I think that was the weekend I actually got to know Margot, 180 00:08:55,798 --> 00:08:58,422 and then we started talking about forming a band, 181 00:08:58,506 --> 00:08:59,923 a girl band, actually. 182 00:09:00,005 --> 00:09:01,089 Everybody was in a band. 183 00:09:01,172 --> 00:09:03,631 I mean, it was like the cool thing to be in a band 184 00:09:03,714 --> 00:09:05,631 and we were basically the only people left 185 00:09:05,714 --> 00:09:08,756 that weren't in a band, so we decided to do it too. 186 00:09:10,547 --> 00:09:11,798 [Margot] I met Elissa. 187 00:09:11,881 --> 00:09:15,589 She was one of my high school friend's cousins. 188 00:09:15,673 --> 00:09:17,798 [Elissa] Margot then met Belinda. 189 00:09:17,881 --> 00:09:19,839 [Belinda] The punk scene was so small, 190 00:09:19,923 --> 00:09:21,923 so we all knew each other vaguely. 191 00:09:22,005 --> 00:09:24,547 [Jane] Thinking about bands like The Shirelles 192 00:09:24,631 --> 00:09:27,589 and The Shangri-Las, it was exciting to think 193 00:09:27,673 --> 00:09:30,631 we could do the new version of that. 194 00:09:30,714 --> 00:09:33,506 But this time, we were going to play instruments. 195 00:09:33,589 --> 00:09:35,714 [director] With one little problem? 196 00:09:35,798 --> 00:09:38,631 That we didn't know how to play instruments. 197 00:09:38,714 --> 00:09:40,673 [laughing] 198 00:09:40,756 --> 00:09:44,005 [Margot] Well, I wanted to play bass 199 00:09:44,089 --> 00:09:47,631 and I knew I would have to learn by doing. 200 00:09:49,089 --> 00:09:52,714 [Elissa] I didn't have drums, I had to go out and find drums. 201 00:09:52,798 --> 00:09:54,089 [playing guitar riff] 202 00:09:54,172 --> 00:09:57,297 [Jane] You know, I had a couple of weeks of folk guitar lessons 203 00:09:57,381 --> 00:09:59,631 when I was 12, I'll just play guitar. 204 00:09:59,714 --> 00:10:03,047 [Belinda singing indistinctly] 205 00:10:03,130 --> 00:10:04,589 I certainly thought I could sing. 206 00:10:04,673 --> 00:10:07,547 I thought I sounded like Julie Andrews. But... 207 00:10:07,631 --> 00:10:10,714 ♪ We can do what we want we can say... ♪ 208 00:10:10,798 --> 00:10:12,673 [Jane] We didn't know what we were doing. 209 00:10:12,756 --> 00:10:14,047 In the punk scene it was like, 210 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:16,214 "Great, you don't know what you're doing? 211 00:10:16,297 --> 00:10:17,881 Just fucking do it." 212 00:10:20,798 --> 00:10:23,464 We'd sort of been, like, going over different names, 213 00:10:23,547 --> 00:10:25,547 nothing really seemed right. Whatever-- 214 00:10:25,631 --> 00:10:27,047 Was it The Misfits was going to be, 215 00:10:27,130 --> 00:10:29,297 because that's how we sort of felt at the time. 216 00:10:29,381 --> 00:10:32,255 At that time, The Kinks came out with Misfits the album, 217 00:10:32,339 --> 00:10:34,631 we thought, no, everyone will think, you know, 218 00:10:34,714 --> 00:10:35,798 we stole it from them. 219 00:10:35,881 --> 00:10:39,673 So, The Go-Go's seemed to fit us. 220 00:10:39,756 --> 00:10:42,172 [crowd cheering and clapping] 221 00:10:42,255 --> 00:10:44,339 I remember doing our first show. 222 00:10:44,422 --> 00:10:46,172 It was at the Masque. 223 00:10:47,589 --> 00:10:49,673 [Pleasant] Everyone was excited 224 00:10:49,756 --> 00:10:52,172 when The Go-Go's played at the Masque. 225 00:10:52,255 --> 00:10:53,756 Their set was three songs long 226 00:10:53,839 --> 00:10:56,339 and two of them were the same song. [laughs] 227 00:10:58,130 --> 00:10:59,964 [Margot] We only knew those songs, 228 00:11:00,047 --> 00:11:03,005 so it wasn't a matter of having a set list. 229 00:11:03,089 --> 00:11:05,839 [laughing] We didn't need one. 230 00:11:07,881 --> 00:11:10,214 [Jane] There's one song about Robert Hilburn 231 00:11:10,297 --> 00:11:12,923 who was a huge music critic at the L.A. Times. 232 00:11:22,714 --> 00:11:24,673 [Belinda] People were either laughing 233 00:11:24,756 --> 00:11:27,464 or completely mortified in horror. 234 00:11:27,547 --> 00:11:29,673 It was a big, fat mess. 235 00:11:29,756 --> 00:11:31,964 [Margot] I wasn't really intimidated 236 00:11:32,047 --> 00:11:35,297 about being as terrible as we were in the beginning. 237 00:11:35,381 --> 00:11:36,673 That was the whole point, 238 00:11:36,756 --> 00:11:39,130 you can sound horrible and still make music. 239 00:11:39,214 --> 00:11:40,756 [giggling] 240 00:11:40,839 --> 00:11:42,839 [Belinda] I think that deep down inside 241 00:11:42,923 --> 00:11:45,297 we knew that we had something really special, 242 00:11:45,381 --> 00:11:50,631 but we needed someone that actually knew how to do it. 243 00:11:52,381 --> 00:11:53,506 [electrical feedback] 244 00:11:53,589 --> 00:11:56,214 Let's try plugging the amps into the wall first, 245 00:11:56,297 --> 00:11:58,047 like, you know what I mean? 246 00:11:58,130 --> 00:12:02,631 When I was very, very young, like, first and second grade, 247 00:12:02,714 --> 00:12:06,005 I had an Elvis Presley record 248 00:12:06,089 --> 00:12:09,172 and Johann Strauss "Blue Danube Waltz". 249 00:12:09,255 --> 00:12:13,881 I would listen to both of them, like put one on, dance around, 250 00:12:13,964 --> 00:12:16,172 put the other one on, waltz around, yeah. 251 00:12:16,255 --> 00:12:18,172 [classical piano playing] 252 00:12:18,255 --> 00:12:21,005 I started playing piano when I was four years old. 253 00:12:21,923 --> 00:12:24,422 At a very young age, I was moved by music. 254 00:12:24,506 --> 00:12:26,964 I had an ear for music. 255 00:12:28,798 --> 00:12:32,923 I went to Immaculate Heart College, taking classical piano. 256 00:12:35,005 --> 00:12:37,839 I loved it, but it was kind of snotty attitude, 257 00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:41,381 like, some of these students were just like, "Who are you?" 258 00:12:41,464 --> 00:12:42,798 [screaming] 259 00:12:42,881 --> 00:12:46,714 I started going to some of the punk rock shows. 260 00:12:46,798 --> 00:12:49,881 The punk bands just busted me open, 261 00:12:49,964 --> 00:12:52,631 knowing that all this music theory, 262 00:12:52,714 --> 00:12:55,631 rules had to be thrown out the window. 263 00:12:57,255 --> 00:13:00,547 ♪ Don't talk to me ♪ 264 00:13:00,631 --> 00:13:02,005 When I graduated college, 265 00:13:02,089 --> 00:13:05,297 my best friend Joe Ramirez and I started a band. 266 00:13:05,381 --> 00:13:07,422 We named it The Eyes. 267 00:13:07,506 --> 00:13:09,673 It was one of the most freeing things 268 00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:11,839 just to turn up our amps to ten, 269 00:13:11,923 --> 00:13:15,089 bash through and just anything went. 270 00:13:15,172 --> 00:13:17,547 ♪ Don't talk to me, don't look at me ♪ 271 00:13:17,631 --> 00:13:19,923 ♪ Don't talk to me, oh yeah ♪ 272 00:13:20,005 --> 00:13:23,714 "Don't talk to me, don't look at me, don't talk to me..." 273 00:13:23,798 --> 00:13:25,631 That is like a feminist anthem 274 00:13:25,714 --> 00:13:28,089 for women of my generation. 275 00:13:29,297 --> 00:13:32,589 [Belinda] Margot and I went to an Eyes show, 276 00:13:32,673 --> 00:13:34,631 where we thought, "Oh, Charlotte." 277 00:13:34,714 --> 00:13:36,673 ♪ Yeah ♪ 278 00:13:36,756 --> 00:13:38,881 We thought she was perfect. 279 00:13:40,798 --> 00:13:42,089 [Charlotte] I'm backstage, 280 00:13:42,172 --> 00:13:45,214 and I see these two sets of legs walking up. 281 00:13:45,297 --> 00:13:48,339 One has spikey heels, 282 00:13:48,422 --> 00:13:52,130 ripped fishnets, a trash bag. 283 00:13:52,214 --> 00:13:53,923 That was Belinda. 284 00:13:54,005 --> 00:13:55,923 She said, "Hi, Charlotte. "You know, 285 00:13:56,005 --> 00:13:58,589 we're starting this all-girl band, do you wanna join?" 286 00:13:58,673 --> 00:14:00,756 And what am I gonna say, no? 287 00:14:04,214 --> 00:14:07,214 I was totally intimidated by them 288 00:14:07,297 --> 00:14:08,964 because Jane and Belinda and Margot, 289 00:14:09,047 --> 00:14:12,756 they're all like punks and they're asking me, 290 00:14:12,839 --> 00:14:16,673 like the dork of all time, to, like, join their band. 291 00:14:16,756 --> 00:14:19,547 So, I felt kind of special, I guess. 292 00:14:23,047 --> 00:14:25,631 When they asked, "Hey, do you play lead guitar?" 293 00:14:25,714 --> 00:14:27,631 I lied. 294 00:14:27,714 --> 00:14:30,047 I figured I played bass so, you know, 295 00:14:30,130 --> 00:14:32,506 "Yeah, it's a couple more strings, it'll be okay." 296 00:14:32,589 --> 00:14:33,798 [sighing] 297 00:14:33,881 --> 00:14:36,047 [guitar riff plays] 298 00:14:37,506 --> 00:14:41,506 We started rehearsing, 299 00:14:41,589 --> 00:14:46,673 but, you know, we were pretty crappy in the beginning. 300 00:14:46,756 --> 00:14:48,589 We really didn't sound that great. 301 00:14:48,673 --> 00:14:50,339 [Belinda singing indistinctly] 302 00:14:50,422 --> 00:14:53,839 [Ginger Canzoneri] It was pretty screechy. 303 00:14:53,923 --> 00:14:57,005 I remember going into The Masque one Saturday afternoon, 304 00:14:57,089 --> 00:14:58,881 hearing some music and thinking, 305 00:14:58,964 --> 00:15:00,964 "Oh, who's rehearsing down here today?" 306 00:15:01,047 --> 00:15:03,631 And then, opening a door and seeing Belinda on stage 307 00:15:03,714 --> 00:15:05,464 holding a mic kind of awkwardly. 308 00:15:06,422 --> 00:15:09,005 I just thought, "Oh, God, that's so great, 309 00:15:09,089 --> 00:15:11,923 women pulling together to achieve something," 310 00:15:12,005 --> 00:15:16,381 and I wanted to support that cause and be part of it. 311 00:15:16,464 --> 00:15:19,214 I love communities of women. 312 00:15:19,297 --> 00:15:23,422 This band caught my interest for that reason. 313 00:15:23,506 --> 00:15:25,923 [crowd cheering] 314 00:15:26,005 --> 00:15:28,881 This song's called "Fashion Seekers." 315 00:15:28,964 --> 00:15:34,130 ♪♪♪ 316 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:43,964 ♪ Bland ideas in a borrowed head ♪ 317 00:15:44,047 --> 00:15:46,839 [Belinda] We saw no reason why we couldn't be 318 00:15:46,923 --> 00:15:49,214 just as good as the boys or men. 319 00:15:49,297 --> 00:15:53,047 ♪ They'll suck the shirt right off of your back ♪ 320 00:15:53,130 --> 00:15:56,297 We weren't going to be anything but a great band. 321 00:16:00,130 --> 00:16:02,422 [Elissa] They were really on the fast track 322 00:16:02,506 --> 00:16:04,172 and they wanted to get going. 323 00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:07,756 And so, they weren't going to let anything stand in their way. 324 00:16:10,339 --> 00:16:12,881 [Jane] Elissa was very, very eccentric. 325 00:16:14,005 --> 00:16:16,673 I don't know if she was shy or an introvert, 326 00:16:16,756 --> 00:16:19,297 but she was never really part of the gang. 327 00:16:19,381 --> 00:16:21,881 She always held herself apart. 328 00:16:21,964 --> 00:16:25,422 [Elissa] I was coming from two different worlds. 329 00:16:25,506 --> 00:16:27,756 I had to answer to my employer 330 00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:30,756 and I had to answer to the band. 331 00:16:30,839 --> 00:16:34,047 And they wanted me to quit my job, the girls, 332 00:16:34,130 --> 00:16:36,506 and be more dedicated. 333 00:16:36,589 --> 00:16:41,172 I stuck my toe in the water, but I never dove in all the way. 334 00:16:41,255 --> 00:16:43,923 [Belinda] We definitely needed to bring somebody in 335 00:16:44,005 --> 00:16:46,047 that wanted to be there. 336 00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:48,756 I happened to meet the girls at a party one night, 337 00:16:48,839 --> 00:16:51,422 and um... that's how it started, I invited 'em over for-- 338 00:16:51,506 --> 00:16:54,214 You know, they said, "Oh, we're looking for a drummer." 339 00:16:54,297 --> 00:16:56,255 "Oh, we're looking for a drummer." 340 00:16:56,339 --> 00:16:59,005 And I said, "Great. I'll try out for the band." 341 00:16:59,089 --> 00:17:00,756 ♪ One, two, three, four ♪ 342 00:17:00,839 --> 00:17:03,464 ♪♪♪ 343 00:17:03,547 --> 00:17:06,297 The amps are set up, they bring their guitars, plug in, 344 00:17:06,381 --> 00:17:09,339 we play like three songs, and it was like, done deal. 345 00:17:09,422 --> 00:17:11,130 ♪ I buy you cologne ♪ 346 00:17:11,214 --> 00:17:12,631 [Jane] Holy shit! 347 00:17:12,714 --> 00:17:15,172 I don't even know how to describe the difference. 348 00:17:15,255 --> 00:17:18,714 It was really, like, ta-da! 349 00:17:19,714 --> 00:17:21,798 ♪ I need promises... ♪ 350 00:17:21,881 --> 00:17:25,464 [Elissa] The next thing I know they found this other drummer. 351 00:17:25,547 --> 00:17:28,464 I was very upset and hurt. 352 00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:32,214 [Jane] When you kick people out of bands, it's fucking tough. 353 00:17:32,297 --> 00:17:35,089 But at the time, these things just seemed necessary 354 00:17:35,172 --> 00:17:37,297 and they seemed for the good of the band. 355 00:17:37,381 --> 00:17:40,714 [Mrs. Schock] When she was 13 she would come home from school, 356 00:17:40,798 --> 00:17:42,130 go up into the front bedroom, 357 00:17:42,214 --> 00:17:45,881 put the earphones on and bang on the drums. 358 00:17:45,964 --> 00:17:49,172 [Gina] A lot of girls weren't playing drums back then and so, 359 00:17:49,255 --> 00:17:51,255 I got in a band right away. 360 00:17:51,339 --> 00:17:54,339 We were Baltimore's first new wave punk band. 361 00:17:54,422 --> 00:17:55,631 We had a lot of fun, 362 00:17:55,714 --> 00:17:58,589 but at that point I was like, "I want to play in arenas, 363 00:17:58,673 --> 00:18:01,464 I don't want to stay playing in clubs my whole life." 364 00:18:01,547 --> 00:18:03,172 ♪♪♪ 365 00:18:03,255 --> 00:18:05,339 When I left Baltimore I told everybody, 366 00:18:05,422 --> 00:18:07,964 "The next time you see me, I'm gonna be a rock star." 367 00:18:08,047 --> 00:18:11,214 I drove across country with a dream and a camera. 368 00:18:11,297 --> 00:18:13,464 I was, like, always taking pictures. 369 00:18:16,964 --> 00:18:19,631 I had $2000, and two grams of coke. 370 00:18:19,714 --> 00:18:22,047 [laughing] 371 00:18:22,130 --> 00:18:25,214 [Belinda] I remember the first time I met Gina, 372 00:18:25,297 --> 00:18:28,547 she had this frizzy blonde hair and she was wearing overalls. 373 00:18:28,631 --> 00:18:31,297 She looked crazy, and I was like, "I'm going to fix you." 374 00:18:31,381 --> 00:18:34,339 She needed a little bit of, you know, punking up. 375 00:18:35,631 --> 00:18:39,547 So, we cut her hair, dyed it black and she was ready. 376 00:18:41,381 --> 00:18:44,172 [Gina] Then, I was into taking just Polaroids. 377 00:18:46,214 --> 00:18:49,214 The punk scene allowed you to be whoever you wanted to be, 378 00:18:49,297 --> 00:18:51,881 play the way you wanted to play and you fit in. 379 00:18:52,005 --> 00:18:53,255 You were accepted. 380 00:18:55,506 --> 00:18:58,923 Being in that setting made me feel safe. 381 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:02,923 And it just allowed us a lot more freedom 382 00:19:03,005 --> 00:19:06,381 to do what we wanted to do. 383 00:19:06,464 --> 00:19:11,255 It's like a dream, only you're really living it. 384 00:19:13,798 --> 00:19:17,339 Jane was just so cute and sweet and bubbly 385 00:19:17,422 --> 00:19:19,130 and her little voice. 386 00:19:19,214 --> 00:19:22,172 We both had crushes on each other, I guess you could say, 387 00:19:22,255 --> 00:19:24,506 but we were girlfriends for a while. 388 00:19:25,673 --> 00:19:27,464 She was the boss in the relationship, 389 00:19:27,547 --> 00:19:31,339 I was the new kid in town and it made me feel comfortable. 390 00:19:33,506 --> 00:19:35,547 Jane broke up with me. 391 00:19:37,798 --> 00:19:39,255 [laughing] 392 00:19:41,089 --> 00:19:44,130 It wasn't like either one of us were heartbroken or anything. 393 00:19:44,214 --> 00:19:47,506 You think something like that's going to fuck with the band? 394 00:19:47,589 --> 00:19:48,589 No way. 395 00:19:48,673 --> 00:19:51,964 ♪ One, two, G-O, G-O... ♪ 396 00:19:52,047 --> 00:19:54,005 [Charlotte] What Gina brought, 397 00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:55,881 besides being a really amazing drummer, 398 00:19:55,964 --> 00:19:57,756 is that she made us work hard. 399 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:01,422 She said, "You guys have to rehearse every single night." 400 00:20:01,506 --> 00:20:03,923 And we're just like, "What are you talking about?" 401 00:20:04,005 --> 00:20:06,506 [Gina] Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse, 402 00:20:06,589 --> 00:20:08,464 it only makes you tighter. 403 00:20:08,547 --> 00:20:11,756 I mean, I was determined to whip them into shape. 404 00:20:14,214 --> 00:20:17,255 Because I felt there was something magical there, 405 00:20:17,339 --> 00:20:19,172 you just needed to push it more. 406 00:20:19,255 --> 00:20:21,339 You needed to get the girls to be more focused 407 00:20:21,422 --> 00:20:23,756 and more serious about what they're doing. 408 00:20:23,839 --> 00:20:25,214 [Belinda] She was right. 409 00:20:25,297 --> 00:20:29,589 We improved and it pushed us to another level. 410 00:20:29,673 --> 00:20:32,130 [Gina] And I was on fire! 411 00:20:35,089 --> 00:20:39,255 I was sitting at home, it was about midnight, 412 00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,339 I was watching The Twilight Zone. 413 00:20:41,422 --> 00:20:43,506 [TV announcer] You're flying to a new planet, 414 00:20:43,589 --> 00:20:47,255 a planet of light, of darkness and the in-between. 415 00:20:48,673 --> 00:20:50,381 [Charlotte] I wanted to write a song 416 00:20:50,464 --> 00:20:53,172 and I was listening to the music all day long. 417 00:20:53,255 --> 00:20:55,422 I really wanted to write something with a beat. 418 00:20:55,506 --> 00:20:57,714 I was hearing something in my mind. 419 00:20:57,798 --> 00:20:58,756 [clock ticking] 420 00:20:58,839 --> 00:21:02,130 I was just sitting there minding my own business 421 00:21:02,214 --> 00:21:04,047 and all of a sudden this whole melody, 422 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:08,547 this whole idea came to my mind and I was like, "Oh, shit." 423 00:21:09,464 --> 00:21:11,381 I ran and got my little cassette player. 424 00:21:11,464 --> 00:21:13,881 [beginning notes of "We Got The Beat" plays] 425 00:21:13,964 --> 00:21:15,047 And I wrote the song, 426 00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:18,464 it was like five minutes, it just all came out. 427 00:21:18,547 --> 00:21:21,130 The zone of writing, I don't know what happens, 428 00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:22,881 but I can get to that place and boom, 429 00:21:22,964 --> 00:21:25,547 just these ideas just start flowing and it's like, 430 00:21:25,631 --> 00:21:28,547 it's pretty... pretty phenomenal when it happens. 431 00:21:31,255 --> 00:21:35,214 Back then, I didn't have a sense of myself. 432 00:21:36,172 --> 00:21:38,047 Songwriting was so important to me, 433 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,255 it was my identity, my safety zone. 434 00:21:43,589 --> 00:21:46,047 And so, with "We Got The Beat" I was terrified. 435 00:21:46,130 --> 00:21:47,214 I was thinking, "Man, 436 00:21:47,297 --> 00:21:49,756 these girls are going to throw me out of this band" 437 00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:51,881 because it was a pop song. 438 00:21:52,923 --> 00:21:55,631 ♪ See the people walking down the street ♪ 439 00:21:55,714 --> 00:21:58,005 [Belinda] I don't remember her being nervous, 440 00:21:58,089 --> 00:22:00,422 I just remember thinking it was an amazing song. 441 00:22:00,506 --> 00:22:03,297 I mean, it's just so obvious. 442 00:22:03,381 --> 00:22:05,130 [Margot] We all loved it right away. 443 00:22:05,214 --> 00:22:07,923 ♪ They got the beat, they got the beat ♪ 444 00:22:08,005 --> 00:22:10,506 ♪ They got the beat ♪ 445 00:22:11,881 --> 00:22:14,547 [Gina] When she started playing that eighth-note riff, 446 00:22:14,631 --> 00:22:18,464 the pattern that I play on the drums just poured out of me. 447 00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:21,923 It was "do-do da-da do-do da-da." 448 00:22:22,005 --> 00:22:22,798 [drumming] 449 00:22:22,881 --> 00:22:24,464 [Jane] I felt like we had arrived. 450 00:22:24,547 --> 00:22:28,464 It was definitely another step up that ladder. 451 00:22:28,547 --> 00:22:30,923 [Charlotte] Fortunately, they just loved it. 452 00:22:31,005 --> 00:22:35,923 ♪♪♪ 453 00:22:37,714 --> 00:22:40,881 And I believe that changed the trajectory of the band. 454 00:22:40,964 --> 00:22:45,881 ♪♪♪ 455 00:22:50,714 --> 00:22:53,464 ♪ Go-Go music really makes us dance ♪ 456 00:22:53,547 --> 00:22:55,631 We were rough sounding when we played live, 457 00:22:55,714 --> 00:22:59,214 but we had these songs that were just coming together. 458 00:22:59,297 --> 00:23:00,881 ♪ That's when we fall in line ♪ 459 00:23:00,964 --> 00:23:04,506 Just doing those little shows, it was a really cool time. 460 00:23:04,589 --> 00:23:07,464 [Gina] We were the house band at The Whisky. 461 00:23:08,464 --> 00:23:10,547 So, we would open up for whatever bands 462 00:23:10,631 --> 00:23:11,839 would come into town. 463 00:23:11,923 --> 00:23:15,005 Madness came into town and they were English, you know, 464 00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:16,339 we loved that. 465 00:23:16,422 --> 00:23:19,005 [Thompson] All-girl band writing their own tunes? 466 00:23:19,089 --> 00:23:20,839 I mean, outrageous. 467 00:23:20,923 --> 00:23:24,172 Yeah, we got it! 468 00:23:24,255 --> 00:23:26,214 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 469 00:23:26,297 --> 00:23:28,005 Come on, don't be too cool. 470 00:23:28,089 --> 00:23:29,923 [Gina] They thought we were great 471 00:23:30,005 --> 00:23:32,839 and they went back and spread the word about The Go-Go's. 472 00:23:32,923 --> 00:23:37,255 And then, The Specials came and we opened for them. 473 00:23:37,339 --> 00:23:40,130 One of the best things that happened for The Go-Go's 474 00:23:40,214 --> 00:23:41,631 was meeting us, you know, 475 00:23:41,714 --> 00:23:45,589 and I would say probably one of the best thing happened to us 476 00:23:45,673 --> 00:23:47,214 was meeting The Go-Go's. 477 00:23:50,464 --> 00:23:54,923 They were young, they were fresh, they were beautiful. 478 00:23:55,005 --> 00:23:58,464 We are a bunch of misfits, of course, that's why it works! 479 00:23:58,547 --> 00:24:00,881 [Gina] Their manager started talking with Ginger 480 00:24:00,964 --> 00:24:02,756 about how to bring us over to England 481 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:05,964 so we could tour with both bands. 482 00:24:06,047 --> 00:24:08,756 [Ginger] Somebody from The Specials came to me and said, 483 00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:11,047 "We're planning a seaside tour in England. 484 00:24:11,130 --> 00:24:14,881 Do you think your band might be able to get over there?" 485 00:24:14,964 --> 00:24:16,464 And I said, "Yes!" 486 00:24:17,506 --> 00:24:19,881 I did a lot of pawning of jewelry 487 00:24:19,964 --> 00:24:21,547 and selling a lot of things 488 00:24:21,631 --> 00:24:24,631 to be able to get the girls over on that trip. 489 00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:27,172 [Belinda] She sold everything. 490 00:24:27,255 --> 00:24:30,339 Her car, she put her whole life on sale 491 00:24:30,422 --> 00:24:32,673 basically to fund us to get to London. 492 00:24:34,547 --> 00:24:37,255 [Charlotte] My dad was in the entertainment industry, 493 00:24:37,339 --> 00:24:40,673 but he was not behind me being in this band. 494 00:24:41,464 --> 00:24:43,631 He said, "Hey, there's an opening 495 00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:46,756 at the music library at Paramount." 496 00:24:47,881 --> 00:24:51,464 I remember it was like a really good-paying job, 497 00:24:51,547 --> 00:24:54,631 and I just said to him, I said, "I can't," 498 00:24:54,714 --> 00:24:57,422 because inside of me I had to leave. 499 00:24:57,506 --> 00:24:59,839 I had to do this, I had to do it. 500 00:24:59,923 --> 00:25:02,714 ♪♪♪ 501 00:25:02,798 --> 00:25:05,255 ♪ Seen your pictures in the 'zines ♪ 502 00:25:05,339 --> 00:25:07,089 ♪ And you look real good ♪ 503 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,464 ♪ Pale blank faces, black and white keen ♪ 504 00:25:09,547 --> 00:25:11,798 ♪ London boys, cigarette lean ♪ 505 00:25:11,881 --> 00:25:13,714 ♪ London boys, wish you were here ♪ 506 00:25:13,798 --> 00:25:16,673 [Jane] Because the punk rock scene had started in England, 507 00:25:16,756 --> 00:25:18,881 all the bands that we worshipped were English. 508 00:25:18,964 --> 00:25:21,381 I mean, England was always, for us, 509 00:25:21,464 --> 00:25:24,547 ground zero of great rock music. 510 00:25:24,631 --> 00:25:26,714 It was like Mecca! [laughing] 511 00:25:29,547 --> 00:25:31,547 [Golding] When The Go-Go's come over here, 512 00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:34,714 walking around the city is just really, really bleak. 513 00:25:34,798 --> 00:25:38,339 Shite, absolutely grim, grey. 514 00:25:38,422 --> 00:25:41,631 It wasn't a very nice place to be. 515 00:25:41,714 --> 00:25:45,464 There seemed to be an air of something's about to go off. 516 00:25:45,547 --> 00:25:49,839 ♪ We're living in gangster times ♪ 517 00:25:50,798 --> 00:25:52,547 Don't call me Scarface! 518 00:25:52,631 --> 00:25:56,881 [Jane] The Specials and Madness were both ska bands 519 00:25:56,964 --> 00:25:59,214 and they were stars. 520 00:25:59,297 --> 00:26:02,547 We felt like having these opening slots with two bands 521 00:26:02,631 --> 00:26:04,506 that were at the top of their game 522 00:26:04,589 --> 00:26:06,964 and were very, very successful there, 523 00:26:07,047 --> 00:26:09,214 that, I mean, how could we fail? 524 00:26:09,297 --> 00:26:12,839 ♪♪♪ 525 00:26:12,923 --> 00:26:16,172 [Margot] It was our first time touring in a tour bus 526 00:26:16,255 --> 00:26:17,756 and playing every night. 527 00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:21,923 ♪ The street lights are shining bright ♪ 528 00:26:22,005 --> 00:26:25,005 ♪ The billboards are shedding their light ♪ 529 00:26:25,089 --> 00:26:26,506 [glass breaking] 530 00:26:26,589 --> 00:26:29,214 ♪ My crowd's hanging around ♪ 531 00:26:29,297 --> 00:26:31,255 [Charlotte] We were being spit at, 532 00:26:31,339 --> 00:26:33,881 stuff thrown at us every single night. 533 00:26:35,089 --> 00:26:38,047 [Jane] Ska music attracted a bunch of the white nationalists, 534 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,255 they called themselves the National Front in England. 535 00:26:41,339 --> 00:26:43,506 And they hated us! 536 00:26:43,589 --> 00:26:45,589 First of all, we were not ska, 537 00:26:45,673 --> 00:26:48,547 so what the hell were we doing opening for these ska bands? 538 00:26:48,631 --> 00:26:50,798 Second of all, we we're Americans. 539 00:26:50,881 --> 00:26:54,714 And third of all, maybe worst of all, we were chicks. 540 00:26:57,631 --> 00:26:59,172 [Belinda] No, we don't do that... 541 00:26:59,255 --> 00:27:00,506 [crowd jeering] 542 00:27:00,589 --> 00:27:03,214 [Belinda] You know, here are these five little girls 543 00:27:03,297 --> 00:27:04,422 from southern California, 544 00:27:04,506 --> 00:27:07,964 get up on stage and play to these scary skinheads. 545 00:27:08,047 --> 00:27:09,881 It was frightening. 546 00:27:09,964 --> 00:27:13,089 [Thompson] One venue, a fella was standing people in a line 547 00:27:13,172 --> 00:27:16,714 with a razor, and another fella with a hammer. 548 00:27:19,547 --> 00:27:21,589 [Jane] The tours were not going at all 549 00:27:21,673 --> 00:27:24,422 like we thought they were going to go. 550 00:27:24,506 --> 00:27:25,756 But at the same time, 551 00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:27,923 we were also having the time of our lives. 552 00:27:28,964 --> 00:27:31,005 There was like a lot of romances going on 553 00:27:31,089 --> 00:27:32,422 between the band members. 554 00:27:32,506 --> 00:27:35,381 But it was good 'cause we all had boyfriends in like, Madness 555 00:27:35,464 --> 00:27:39,047 or The Specials to console us when we got off stage. 556 00:27:39,130 --> 00:27:41,339 [Golding] Gina is... I love her. 557 00:27:41,422 --> 00:27:43,798 "I just didn't know how to come and approach you." 558 00:27:43,881 --> 00:27:45,589 I should've asked you to marry me 559 00:27:45,673 --> 00:27:47,631 and you probably would've said no, 560 00:27:47,714 --> 00:27:49,339 but I'd have felt better that I asked. 561 00:27:49,422 --> 00:27:52,005 We had such a good laugh, oh, she's lovely she is. 562 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,964 [Jane] I met Terry. He was in The Specials. 563 00:27:58,047 --> 00:28:00,381 We were very attracted to each other. 564 00:28:00,464 --> 00:28:02,673 We spent a lot of time together on the tour 565 00:28:02,756 --> 00:28:04,631 and it was kind of sort of a romance, 566 00:28:04,714 --> 00:28:07,005 but, I mean, he had a girlfriend, and supposedly, 567 00:28:07,089 --> 00:28:09,589 she was a fiancée and they were going to get married. 568 00:28:09,673 --> 00:28:12,047 And I don't know what I was thinking. 569 00:28:12,130 --> 00:28:15,714 You know, I just thought it was this big, important romance. 570 00:28:19,631 --> 00:28:20,673 [Ginger] Behind the scenes, 571 00:28:20,756 --> 00:28:23,297 I was bringing their cassette tapes around. 572 00:28:23,381 --> 00:28:25,714 Stiff Records might have been a small label, 573 00:28:25,798 --> 00:28:28,381 but they had a group of dedicated people. 574 00:28:28,464 --> 00:28:30,714 [Dave Robinson] I think Ginger asked us 575 00:28:30,798 --> 00:28:33,339 whether we would like to sign them, 576 00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,881 but I thought an American punk girl band 577 00:28:36,005 --> 00:28:38,255 who are objecting to being spit at, 578 00:28:38,339 --> 00:28:41,464 I don't know that it's going to really work. 579 00:28:41,547 --> 00:28:44,714 But I remember seeing "We've Got the Beat" 580 00:28:44,798 --> 00:28:46,214 as a potential single, 581 00:28:46,297 --> 00:28:51,214 which was my talent to find the door opener. 582 00:28:51,297 --> 00:28:53,339 I tried to publish the song 583 00:28:53,422 --> 00:28:55,255 'cause I could see that it would do well. 584 00:28:55,339 --> 00:28:58,756 They were really pressuring about the publishing, 585 00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:00,172 and I had been told 586 00:29:00,255 --> 00:29:02,339 that that was something you don't give up. 587 00:29:02,422 --> 00:29:06,673 Ginger, I think, was a bit more knowledgeable 588 00:29:06,756 --> 00:29:09,506 about the idea of hold onto what you've got. 589 00:29:09,589 --> 00:29:11,673 [Jane] Thank dog she knew 590 00:29:11,756 --> 00:29:13,923 an artist needs to keep their publishing, 591 00:29:14,005 --> 00:29:17,673 because really it's one of the only ways to make money, 592 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:21,714 and it's very valuable and it's valuable for a lifetime. 593 00:29:21,798 --> 00:29:23,839 [Ginger] Well, I stuck to my guns 594 00:29:23,923 --> 00:29:27,422 and signed this one single deal with Stiff Records. 595 00:29:27,506 --> 00:29:32,214 ♪♪♪ 596 00:29:32,297 --> 00:29:36,214 [Gina reading] "Friday, June the 6th in Bridlington. 597 00:29:36,297 --> 00:29:40,798 "Tonight was okay, the audience were rude but we played fair. 598 00:29:40,881 --> 00:29:43,255 "Bridlington was pretty shitty. 599 00:29:43,339 --> 00:29:46,714 Oh, well, I guess we'll try harder". 600 00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,047 [Charlotte] We were just determined, like, 601 00:29:50,130 --> 00:29:52,005 "We're gonna show those fuckers." 602 00:29:52,089 --> 00:29:53,673 Every night, we'd get on stage 603 00:29:53,756 --> 00:29:56,798 and we would be so belligerent with our playing, 604 00:29:56,881 --> 00:30:00,589 and just being even more of who we were. 605 00:30:00,673 --> 00:30:03,506 ♪ And you're the one to blame ♪ 606 00:30:03,589 --> 00:30:05,839 ♪ I used to know my name ♪ 607 00:30:05,923 --> 00:30:09,673 ♪ But I've lost control of the game ♪ 608 00:30:11,005 --> 00:30:13,422 ♪ 'Cause even though I set the rules ♪ 609 00:30:13,506 --> 00:30:16,047 ♪ You've got me acting like a fool ♪ 610 00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:18,964 [Margot] They were really wild, crazy audiences, 611 00:30:19,047 --> 00:30:21,130 but we made fans, as well. 612 00:30:21,214 --> 00:30:22,798 ♪ Lust to love ♪ 613 00:30:22,881 --> 00:30:25,130 ♪ Was the last thing I was dreaming of ♪ 614 00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:27,589 ♪ And now all I want is just to love ♪ 615 00:30:27,673 --> 00:30:31,005 ♪ Lust turned to love ♪ 616 00:30:31,089 --> 00:30:34,214 [Golding] They're grew, they proved themselves, 617 00:30:34,297 --> 00:30:36,839 and for The Go-Go's to pick themselves from L.A. 618 00:30:36,923 --> 00:30:38,714 and come to London, you know, 619 00:30:38,798 --> 00:30:41,547 wow, respect to them girls, man, you know. 620 00:30:42,881 --> 00:30:45,130 [Thompson] Their musicianship compared to us 621 00:30:45,214 --> 00:30:46,631 was second to none. 622 00:30:46,714 --> 00:30:50,130 They taught me a thing or two. 623 00:30:51,214 --> 00:30:52,339 ♪ Lust to love ♪ 624 00:30:52,422 --> 00:30:53,923 [Gina] There was nothing much 625 00:30:54,005 --> 00:30:56,130 that we couldn't handle at that point. 626 00:30:56,214 --> 00:30:57,631 ♪ Just to love ♪ 627 00:30:57,714 --> 00:31:00,714 ♪ Lust turned to love ♪ 628 00:31:00,798 --> 00:31:03,047 ♪ Lust to love ♪ 629 00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:05,964 It was us against the world, 630 00:31:06,047 --> 00:31:10,130 and I think we were ready to take it to the next level. 631 00:31:10,214 --> 00:31:14,130 ♪♪♪ 632 00:31:14,214 --> 00:31:18,464 Our Stiff Records single was the key that unlocked the door. 633 00:31:18,547 --> 00:31:22,964 People were able to buy the single in Los Angeles. 634 00:31:24,673 --> 00:31:28,964 KROQ-AM in Burbank and KROQ-FM in Pasadena, 635 00:31:29,047 --> 00:31:31,047 we're live on the rocks. 636 00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:33,881 Okay, here's The Go-Go's, "We Got The Beat." 637 00:31:33,964 --> 00:31:35,756 [Jane] When we did come back, 638 00:31:35,839 --> 00:31:38,506 it was like the triumphant return of the home girls, 639 00:31:38,589 --> 00:31:40,047 The Go-Go's! 640 00:31:40,130 --> 00:31:42,381 Everyone thought we were huge stars in England 641 00:31:42,464 --> 00:31:45,339 and we were not telling them anything different. 642 00:31:45,422 --> 00:31:47,673 [Belinda] I remember doing our first show 643 00:31:47,756 --> 00:31:50,589 after we got back at the Starwood. 644 00:31:50,673 --> 00:31:53,673 There were kids wrapped around the block to get in to see us. 645 00:31:53,756 --> 00:31:55,631 We were like, "Whoa, what happened?" 646 00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:57,589 And I guess our strategy worked. 647 00:31:57,673 --> 00:32:02,839 ♪♪♪ 648 00:32:06,464 --> 00:32:10,381 I was in the Starwood one night and The Go-Go's were playing, 649 00:32:10,464 --> 00:32:12,547 and they had been in England. 650 00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:15,964 ♪ Go-Go music really makes us dance ♪ 651 00:32:16,047 --> 00:32:19,589 It was packed and everyone was going crazy. 652 00:32:19,673 --> 00:32:22,214 That's when they got more of my attention. 653 00:32:22,297 --> 00:32:24,422 I thought, "Okay, they're going places." 654 00:32:24,506 --> 00:32:27,506 ♪ 'Cause we got the beat, we got the beat ♪ 655 00:32:27,589 --> 00:32:29,839 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 656 00:32:29,923 --> 00:32:33,381 ♪ Yeah, we got it ♪ 657 00:32:33,464 --> 00:32:35,214 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 658 00:32:35,297 --> 00:32:38,255 The difference from before that tour and after the tour 659 00:32:38,339 --> 00:32:40,130 was just stunning. 660 00:32:40,214 --> 00:32:41,547 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 661 00:32:41,631 --> 00:32:44,214 I was like, "Oh, my God, this is going to be huge." 662 00:32:44,297 --> 00:32:46,339 -♪ We got the beat ♪ -♪ We got the beat ♪ 663 00:32:46,422 --> 00:32:48,255 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 664 00:32:48,339 --> 00:32:50,130 -♪ We got the beat ♪ -♪ We got the beat ♪ 665 00:32:50,214 --> 00:32:52,089 -♪ We got the beat ♪ -♪ We got the beat ♪ 666 00:32:52,172 --> 00:32:54,381 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 667 00:32:54,464 --> 00:32:56,297 [crowd cheering] 668 00:32:56,381 --> 00:32:58,756 [Jane] People would freak out when we played. 669 00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:00,089 It was great. 670 00:33:00,172 --> 00:33:03,881 I mean, we felt like we were at the top of our game, 671 00:33:03,964 --> 00:33:06,047 and yet we couldn't get anywhere with it. 672 00:33:12,297 --> 00:33:14,673 [Ginger] I had a file folder of rejection letters 673 00:33:14,756 --> 00:33:16,422 from record labels in Los Angeles. 674 00:33:16,506 --> 00:33:20,464 "Thanks, but you know, all-girl bands just don't sell records." 675 00:33:21,381 --> 00:33:23,422 [Belinda] They wouldn't sign us we were told 676 00:33:23,506 --> 00:33:26,297 because we were girls, and there'd been no predecessor 677 00:33:26,381 --> 00:33:27,756 that had been that successful. 678 00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,297 There'd been The Runaways, 679 00:33:29,381 --> 00:33:33,631 but we put ourselves together, we had no Svengali. 680 00:33:33,714 --> 00:33:35,255 [Gina] It was ridiculous. 681 00:33:35,339 --> 00:33:38,756 Okay, we were girls, but look at what we're doing. 682 00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:41,130 You know, close your eyes and listen. 683 00:33:41,214 --> 00:33:44,297 ♪ I know a cat who can really do the cool jerk ♪ 684 00:33:44,381 --> 00:33:46,589 [Belinda] Through the years I've been asked, 685 00:33:46,673 --> 00:33:48,381 "Were you feminists?" 686 00:33:48,464 --> 00:33:52,589 We were, I realize it now, because of our attitudes, 687 00:33:52,673 --> 00:33:55,381 but we weren't, "We're going to do this against the guys 688 00:33:55,464 --> 00:33:57,881 and you know, fuck them," that kind of thing. 689 00:33:57,964 --> 00:33:59,130 We weren't like that at all. 690 00:33:59,214 --> 00:34:01,172 ♪ When they see me walking down the street ♪ 691 00:34:01,255 --> 00:34:02,839 We thought anything was possible, 692 00:34:02,923 --> 00:34:05,089 including succeeding in that industry 693 00:34:05,172 --> 00:34:06,798 that was run by men. 694 00:34:06,881 --> 00:34:10,673 ♪ They know I'm the queen of the cool jerk ♪ 695 00:34:10,756 --> 00:34:12,381 ♪ Oh cool jerk ♪ 696 00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:15,172 [Kathleen Hanna] Knowing about being a woman in a band 697 00:34:15,255 --> 00:34:18,339 and how many obstacles they'd had to face, 698 00:34:18,422 --> 00:34:22,172 that the response isn't, "I'm going to quit." 699 00:34:22,255 --> 00:34:23,547 [Belinda] Bring it down! 700 00:34:23,631 --> 00:34:26,422 Whooooo! 701 00:34:26,506 --> 00:34:29,714 It's, "Thank you, assholes, for telling me I can't do this. 702 00:34:29,798 --> 00:34:31,089 Thanks for the inspiration, 703 00:34:31,172 --> 00:34:33,297 now watch me get my next hit single." 704 00:34:33,381 --> 00:34:38,005 [guitar playing] 705 00:34:40,089 --> 00:34:42,714 [Jane] After we got home from England, 706 00:34:42,798 --> 00:34:45,923 I would move back and forth from my parents' all the time 707 00:34:46,005 --> 00:34:48,923 because I'd run out of money. 708 00:34:49,005 --> 00:34:51,172 Terry stayed in touch. 709 00:34:51,255 --> 00:34:53,547 He would send me letters, and in one letter 710 00:34:53,631 --> 00:34:56,547 he talked about how he dreamed of having his own band. 711 00:34:56,631 --> 00:34:58,214 and he sent me a bunch of lyrics. 712 00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,839 And he said, "I'm going to write these songs." 713 00:35:02,881 --> 00:35:05,631 [Jane singing lyrics] 714 00:35:12,089 --> 00:35:15,964 I saw the lyrical beginning to "Our Lips Are Sealed." 715 00:35:31,297 --> 00:35:33,339 And even though I'd gotten a little bit lazy 716 00:35:33,422 --> 00:35:36,297 about writing music because Charlotte was so good at it, 717 00:35:36,381 --> 00:35:38,798 I figured, why should I bother, I'll just do lyrics. 718 00:35:38,881 --> 00:35:41,839 But this time, I actually went back to writing music. 719 00:35:56,422 --> 00:35:58,339 I just thought it was such a good song. 720 00:35:58,422 --> 00:35:59,506 I was so in love with it. 721 00:35:59,589 --> 00:36:01,839 I didn't show it to the band for weeks and weeks 722 00:36:01,923 --> 00:36:04,214 'cause I was so afraid if they didn't like it, 723 00:36:04,297 --> 00:36:06,381 what was I gonna do? I was gonna... die. 724 00:36:06,464 --> 00:36:09,923 [Belinda] I remember hearing that song for the first time. 725 00:36:10,005 --> 00:36:11,756 I was completely blown away with it. 726 00:36:11,839 --> 00:36:13,422 ♪ No secrets to reveal ♪ 727 00:36:13,506 --> 00:36:16,631 Because of Jane's not being a trained musician and writer, 728 00:36:16,714 --> 00:36:19,297 the chord progression in that song is so unusual. 729 00:36:19,381 --> 00:36:21,297 ♪ ...people play ♪ 730 00:36:21,381 --> 00:36:23,297 It really got your attention. 731 00:36:23,381 --> 00:36:25,839 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 732 00:36:25,923 --> 00:36:28,381 ♪ Pay no mind to what they say ♪ 733 00:36:28,464 --> 00:36:32,214 [Charlotte] We started writing more melodic songs, 734 00:36:32,297 --> 00:36:35,756 and we got this hybrid of pop and punk. 735 00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:38,964 ♪ Hush now darling, our lips are sealed ♪ 736 00:36:39,047 --> 00:36:40,923 ♪ Hush now... ♪ 737 00:36:41,005 --> 00:36:43,422 [microphone feedback] 738 00:36:43,506 --> 00:36:46,464 It was changing and some people didn't like the change. 739 00:36:48,839 --> 00:36:50,631 [Margot] My identity as a punk, 740 00:36:50,714 --> 00:36:52,464 I was so absorbed in the scene, 741 00:36:52,547 --> 00:36:57,047 it was my life, my lifestyle, my everything. 742 00:36:57,130 --> 00:36:59,422 Oh, yeah, Margot, fuck, man, yeah, she hated it. 743 00:36:59,506 --> 00:37:01,881 She's like, "I don't want to be a fucking pop band! 744 00:37:01,964 --> 00:37:03,798 I'm in a punk band." 745 00:37:03,881 --> 00:37:07,673 And I don't know, I think the rest of us were like, 746 00:37:07,756 --> 00:37:09,464 this is evolving, 747 00:37:09,547 --> 00:37:13,172 so fucking get with it or get out, I don't know. 748 00:37:13,255 --> 00:37:16,339 [Margot] You know, it wasn't just the music, 749 00:37:16,422 --> 00:37:20,506 it was the sense of being packaged into a product. 750 00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:26,589 It was just becoming less about art and more about money. 751 00:37:27,798 --> 00:37:30,547 [Gina] I just felt like, what the fuck are you doing it for, 752 00:37:30,631 --> 00:37:33,506 to stay with a following of a couple of thousand people? 753 00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:35,881 Or do you want to have people all over this country 754 00:37:35,964 --> 00:37:38,089 know your music and know your songwriting, 755 00:37:38,172 --> 00:37:40,714 know, you know, what kind of musician you are? 756 00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:47,214 [Jane] We had shows over New Year's Eve at The Whisky, 757 00:37:47,297 --> 00:37:49,547 and Margot had gotten really, really sick. 758 00:37:49,631 --> 00:37:52,381 So, we had to scramble around and find someone. 759 00:37:54,964 --> 00:37:59,381 [Charlotte] Kathy, I met at the Whisky a Go Go. 760 00:37:59,464 --> 00:38:01,464 [Kathy] I was approached by Charlotte 761 00:38:01,547 --> 00:38:04,547 and asked if I could play bass, and I said yes. 762 00:38:04,631 --> 00:38:05,756 It was a big lie. 763 00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:09,964 I figured, I've been playing guitar five or six years, 764 00:38:10,047 --> 00:38:12,339 why can't I play a bass? 765 00:38:12,422 --> 00:38:14,005 So, I go home. 766 00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:17,714 First thing in the morning, I borrow a bass from somebody. 767 00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:19,005 Charlotte came over. 768 00:38:19,089 --> 00:38:20,964 She brought me a little cassette. 769 00:38:21,047 --> 00:38:23,381 She left. 770 00:38:23,464 --> 00:38:26,047 I plugged my bass into my guitar amp. 771 00:38:27,756 --> 00:38:29,589 Feels weird, I use my pick. 772 00:38:29,673 --> 00:38:33,756 [Go-go's playing fast song] 773 00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:36,923 I start listening, I can't hear, it's a rehearsal tape. 774 00:38:37,005 --> 00:38:38,464 It sounds, you know... zzzt! 775 00:38:38,547 --> 00:38:40,923 [music playing, quickly] 776 00:38:41,005 --> 00:38:42,255 You know, I'm like, "Shit." 777 00:38:42,339 --> 00:38:44,089 [rewinding tape] 778 00:38:44,172 --> 00:38:45,714 [music playing] 779 00:38:45,798 --> 00:38:48,589 First thing I have to do is learn on guitar the chords, 780 00:38:48,673 --> 00:38:50,923 because I can't hear. 781 00:38:51,005 --> 00:38:53,089 [bass playing] 782 00:38:53,172 --> 00:38:56,255 Then, I started picking up some of the bass parts. 783 00:38:56,339 --> 00:38:58,297 What I could make out I learned, 784 00:38:58,381 --> 00:39:02,047 what I couldn't make out I just made up my own. 785 00:39:02,130 --> 00:39:04,964 ♪♪♪ 786 00:39:05,047 --> 00:39:06,589 [rewinding tape] 787 00:39:06,673 --> 00:39:08,756 I played it over and over. 788 00:39:08,839 --> 00:39:10,381 [rewinding tape] 789 00:39:10,464 --> 00:39:12,089 I'm a perfectionist, you know. 790 00:39:12,172 --> 00:39:14,547 [rewinding tape] 791 00:39:14,631 --> 00:39:16,673 The only way to do it as much as I was doing it 792 00:39:16,756 --> 00:39:20,297 was to get pharmaceutical help. 793 00:39:20,381 --> 00:39:23,547 [sniffing] 794 00:39:24,714 --> 00:39:27,798 I basically learned all their songs on a coke binge. 795 00:39:29,381 --> 00:39:31,214 [sniffing, rewinding tape] 796 00:39:31,297 --> 00:39:34,130 [sniffing] 797 00:39:34,214 --> 00:39:37,339 [bass and guitar playing] 798 00:39:37,422 --> 00:39:39,464 Charlotte came over to see how it was going. 799 00:39:39,547 --> 00:39:41,631 [laughing] I went to her house. 800 00:39:41,714 --> 00:39:43,297 She was kind of like in the middle 801 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:45,673 of like a three-day bender on coke, 802 00:39:45,756 --> 00:39:48,214 and I'd never met anyone like that. 803 00:39:48,297 --> 00:39:49,964 And I thought, "Wow, my God." 804 00:39:50,047 --> 00:39:53,714 She was a badass musician. 805 00:39:53,798 --> 00:39:57,631 She learned those songs on bass in, like, a couple days, 806 00:39:57,714 --> 00:39:59,047 and she had never played bass. 807 00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,255 [Kathy] By the time I'd learned those songs, 808 00:40:01,339 --> 00:40:02,798 I just wanted to be in the band. 809 00:40:02,881 --> 00:40:04,673 [Belinda] In case you haven't noticed, 810 00:40:04,756 --> 00:40:07,881 we have a bass player filling in for Margot, she's sick, 811 00:40:07,964 --> 00:40:09,005 and her name's Kathy. 812 00:40:09,089 --> 00:40:11,130 [Charlotte] Kathy Valentine, yeah. 813 00:40:11,214 --> 00:40:12,714 [crowd cheering] 814 00:40:12,798 --> 00:40:17,214 In came Kathy Valentine like a knight in shining armor. 815 00:40:17,297 --> 00:40:19,631 ♪ 816 00:40:19,714 --> 00:40:23,381 [Kathy] I got to be there with the sold-out shows. 817 00:40:23,464 --> 00:40:26,297 It was everything that I had been looking for 818 00:40:26,381 --> 00:40:29,005 since I started playing. 819 00:40:30,214 --> 00:40:31,673 I'm an only child, 820 00:40:31,756 --> 00:40:35,255 and it was just me and my mom when I was raised. 821 00:40:35,339 --> 00:40:39,964 I really liked the idea of a band being a family. 822 00:40:41,214 --> 00:40:42,881 Right away, I just felt like 823 00:40:42,964 --> 00:40:44,798 these are going to be my sisters. 824 00:40:44,881 --> 00:40:48,422 Something just felt right, it just felt like, "We're here." 825 00:40:48,506 --> 00:40:51,255 ♪ Last night you slept, you slept in fits ♪ 826 00:40:51,339 --> 00:40:53,339 ♪ You smashed your windows bit by bit ♪ 827 00:40:53,422 --> 00:40:55,506 [Kathy] They wanted me and I wanted them 828 00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:58,339 and I guess it's a lot like cheaters, 829 00:40:58,422 --> 00:41:01,130 you know, people having affairs. 830 00:41:02,756 --> 00:41:05,547 [Belinda] I remember Margot being true to herself 831 00:41:05,631 --> 00:41:07,297 and very authentic. 832 00:41:07,381 --> 00:41:10,589 She wanted to remain a punk band but we didn't, 833 00:41:10,673 --> 00:41:15,547 so we just decided it was best to carry on without her. 834 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,756 I was told I had to do the firing because, 835 00:41:20,839 --> 00:41:23,714 "You're the manager, Ginger, you've got to do it." 836 00:41:23,798 --> 00:41:27,214 Because none of them had the... the guts to do it. 837 00:41:27,297 --> 00:41:30,005 [phone ringing] 838 00:41:30,089 --> 00:41:34,047 [Margot] It was a shock to get a phone call from Ginger. 839 00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:35,631 "You're out of the band. 840 00:41:35,714 --> 00:41:38,130 The girls didn't want to tell you." 841 00:41:38,214 --> 00:41:42,172 It was a decision that they had made and that was it. 842 00:41:44,005 --> 00:41:47,089 It was something I'd worked so hard for 843 00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:50,255 and with friends. 844 00:41:50,339 --> 00:41:53,923 People ask me, "How do you deal with such betrayal?" 845 00:41:54,005 --> 00:41:56,172 [Belinda] In our little scene in L.A., 846 00:41:56,255 --> 00:41:59,255 there was lots of gossip and lots of people talking about us, 847 00:41:59,339 --> 00:42:00,881 and not in a good way. 848 00:42:00,964 --> 00:42:03,964 We had fired Margot, we had sold out, 849 00:42:04,047 --> 00:42:07,756 we weren't a punk band, we were ambitious. 850 00:42:09,631 --> 00:42:12,589 [Pleasant] In the community, it became like a divorce 851 00:42:12,673 --> 00:42:15,673 because it was like they were on a rocket to fame 852 00:42:15,756 --> 00:42:17,631 and they decided to fuck Margot over. 853 00:42:17,714 --> 00:42:21,339 [Margot] I knew I would miss the scene and the community, 854 00:42:21,422 --> 00:42:23,547 but I didn't want to be hanging out 855 00:42:23,631 --> 00:42:27,130 where I would risk running into them. 856 00:42:27,214 --> 00:42:29,214 I didn't want to see them at all. 857 00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:33,089 ♪ Pay no mind to what they say ♪ 858 00:42:34,464 --> 00:42:37,547 ♪ It doesn't matter anyway, hey hey hey ♪ 859 00:42:37,631 --> 00:42:40,631 [Kathy] I didn't think about how that must have felt for her. 860 00:42:40,714 --> 00:42:41,964 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 861 00:42:42,047 --> 00:42:44,464 There were shows booked for three weeks later 862 00:42:44,547 --> 00:42:46,047 and I just wanted to make sure 863 00:42:46,130 --> 00:42:47,756 I was the one doing them, you know. 864 00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:51,005 ♪ Pay no mind to what they say ♪ 865 00:42:51,089 --> 00:42:53,506 [Ginger] Kathy Valentine fit right in 866 00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:55,464 and was the needed change 867 00:42:55,547 --> 00:42:57,673 to propel the band to their next step. 868 00:42:57,756 --> 00:43:02,673 ♪ Our lips are sealed, our lips are sealed ♪ 869 00:43:04,798 --> 00:43:09,589 You have no idea how barren the landscape was in '81. 870 00:43:09,673 --> 00:43:13,339 The idea that women, a host of different women, 871 00:43:13,422 --> 00:43:16,339 would tell their stories in these kinds of songs 872 00:43:16,422 --> 00:43:17,881 and do it the punk way. 873 00:43:19,297 --> 00:43:22,297 Finding their own way in a very difficult environment, 874 00:43:22,381 --> 00:43:23,923 that was unheard of. 875 00:43:24,005 --> 00:43:28,964 ♪♪♪ 876 00:43:30,756 --> 00:43:33,130 There was a whole new generation of music coming up 877 00:43:33,214 --> 00:43:36,005 and the establishment record business 878 00:43:36,089 --> 00:43:38,047 really sort of dismissed them, 879 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:42,339 and I saw them as a generational change. 880 00:43:42,422 --> 00:43:44,714 [Jane] Miles Copeland, who managed The Police, 881 00:43:44,798 --> 00:43:47,547 decided to start his own boutique label. 882 00:43:47,631 --> 00:43:49,881 He called it IRS Records. 883 00:43:49,964 --> 00:43:51,881 [Miles] Part of what I wanted to do 884 00:43:51,964 --> 00:43:55,172 was to find some local American bands. 885 00:43:56,255 --> 00:43:58,297 And I'd heard about The Go-Go's. 886 00:43:58,381 --> 00:44:01,923 All girls, punks from L.A.? 887 00:44:02,005 --> 00:44:04,547 Even if they were crap you'd almost want to sign them, 888 00:44:04,631 --> 00:44:05,756 you know what I mean? 889 00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:09,255 But they were good and they had good songs. 890 00:44:09,339 --> 00:44:12,631 [Kathy] We signed on April 1st to IRS Records 891 00:44:12,714 --> 00:44:16,214 and the next day we flew to New York. 892 00:44:16,297 --> 00:44:19,089 ♪ ...if you could and be one of us ♪ 893 00:44:19,172 --> 00:44:21,297 We played a couple more gigs. 894 00:44:21,381 --> 00:44:25,923 ♪♪♪ 895 00:44:26,005 --> 00:44:28,422 You know, I was 22 years old 896 00:44:28,506 --> 00:44:30,506 in New York City making a record. 897 00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:33,297 ♪ Change the lines that were said before ♪ 898 00:44:33,381 --> 00:44:34,756 ♪ We're all dreamers ♪ 899 00:44:34,839 --> 00:44:37,631 [Richard Gottehrer] With The Go-Go's as a punk band, 900 00:44:37,714 --> 00:44:38,881 they didn't have the experience 901 00:44:38,964 --> 00:44:43,839 to know they could do more than just execute the moment. 902 00:44:43,923 --> 00:44:47,339 That's what I would try to instill in them, 903 00:44:47,422 --> 00:44:50,464 to say there are grooves, there are feelings. 904 00:44:50,547 --> 00:44:55,005 If your songs are really good, you don't run through them. 905 00:44:55,089 --> 00:44:58,005 ♪ Change the lines that were said before ♪ 906 00:44:58,089 --> 00:45:00,881 ♪ We're all dreamers, we're all whores ♪ 907 00:45:00,964 --> 00:45:04,547 ♪ Discarded stars like worn-out cars ♪ 908 00:45:04,631 --> 00:45:07,339 [Gina] When Richard Gottehrer got a hold of us, 909 00:45:07,422 --> 00:45:08,923 he said, "Slow everything down." 910 00:45:09,005 --> 00:45:11,798 ♪ This town, litter the streets ♪ 911 00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:14,631 So, you could actually understand the words 912 00:45:14,714 --> 00:45:17,464 and the melodies were more flowing. 913 00:45:17,547 --> 00:45:20,047 ♪ This town is our town ♪ 914 00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:22,839 ♪ It is so glamorous ♪ 915 00:45:22,923 --> 00:45:25,506 That's when I realized, these are all pop songs. 916 00:45:25,589 --> 00:45:28,297 ♪ And be one of us ♪ 917 00:45:30,881 --> 00:45:32,673 [Belinda] I think actually it was my idea 918 00:45:32,756 --> 00:45:34,964 for the face masks and towels, 919 00:45:35,047 --> 00:45:37,547 to sort of be timeless and incognito. 920 00:45:37,631 --> 00:45:39,964 [Ginger] I thought fabulous graphically, 921 00:45:40,047 --> 00:45:42,923 I thought, "Oh, that could be really brilliant." 922 00:45:43,964 --> 00:45:45,673 [Gina] Once again we had no money, 923 00:45:45,756 --> 00:45:49,506 so Ginger went to Macy's and bought all those towels. 924 00:45:49,589 --> 00:45:53,047 She returned those towels to Macy's afterwards. [laughs] 925 00:45:53,130 --> 00:45:54,506 I couldn't invest in all these 926 00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:56,756 brand-new fluffy, white, expensive towels. 927 00:45:56,839 --> 00:45:58,464 We couldn't afford those. 928 00:45:58,547 --> 00:46:01,297 ♪ It is so glamorous ♪ 929 00:46:01,381 --> 00:46:04,964 We were like going through adolescence again together. 930 00:46:08,130 --> 00:46:10,881 [Richard] Being the good middle-class boy growing up, 931 00:46:10,964 --> 00:46:13,255 girls are one way, guys are another way. 932 00:46:13,339 --> 00:46:15,464 Well, I learned it's not like that. 933 00:46:15,547 --> 00:46:18,130 I learned that completely from them. 934 00:46:20,172 --> 00:46:23,130 We'd get done with a session and I'd hear something like, 935 00:46:23,214 --> 00:46:25,047 "Let's go get some booty tonight." 936 00:46:25,130 --> 00:46:26,714 And I'm thinking, "booty?" 937 00:46:28,589 --> 00:46:30,547 We had a lot of fun, did a lot of drugs, 938 00:46:30,631 --> 00:46:33,047 drank a lot, just like a band does. 939 00:46:34,089 --> 00:46:36,589 [Kathy] Just a bunch of scruffy girls 940 00:46:36,673 --> 00:46:39,381 having the time of our life. 941 00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:41,172 ♪ This town ♪ 942 00:46:43,255 --> 00:46:48,089 But in the midst of all the bonding and insanity and fun, 943 00:46:48,172 --> 00:46:52,881 I just felt so much distance with Charlotte. 944 00:46:55,297 --> 00:46:58,881 [Belinda] Charlotte tended to isolate herself quite a bit. 945 00:46:58,964 --> 00:47:00,089 So, we had really... 946 00:47:00,172 --> 00:47:02,130 she had this whole secret life going on. 947 00:47:02,214 --> 00:47:04,005 We knew it probably wasn't good. 948 00:47:05,964 --> 00:47:08,130 Okay, let me talk about myself. 949 00:47:08,214 --> 00:47:10,923 I was full-blown heroin addict at the time. 950 00:47:11,005 --> 00:47:13,923 So, I would be scoring dope, which is so scary. 951 00:47:14,005 --> 00:47:16,339 Like, I'd go down to Alphabet City. Yikes! 952 00:47:18,005 --> 00:47:20,923 [Margot] When I moved to New York, I became a squatter 953 00:47:21,005 --> 00:47:23,214 living in what is now the East Village, 954 00:47:23,297 --> 00:47:27,964 and I saw Charlotte walking east to Alphabet City. 955 00:47:29,464 --> 00:47:32,923 The Alphabets is where everyone would go to cop drugs, 956 00:47:33,005 --> 00:47:35,214 so I knew where she was going. 957 00:47:41,089 --> 00:47:43,297 [Charlotte] After I graduated from college, 958 00:47:43,381 --> 00:47:45,130 I tried heroin for the first time. 959 00:47:45,214 --> 00:47:47,923 "Oh, let me try this. I'll be fine!" 960 00:47:48,005 --> 00:47:49,005 It was like, you know, 961 00:47:49,089 --> 00:47:52,714 a little matchstick head size that I snorted. 962 00:47:53,798 --> 00:47:55,339 It made me feel like really great, 963 00:47:55,422 --> 00:47:58,130 and I was like, "Wow, I like this feeling!" 964 00:47:58,214 --> 00:48:00,297 But I didn't understand at that time, 965 00:48:00,381 --> 00:48:02,422 like, it was deadly shit. 966 00:48:02,506 --> 00:48:05,172 Then, I became addicted. 967 00:48:05,255 --> 00:48:08,964 ♪ Automatic, time stop ♪ 968 00:48:09,047 --> 00:48:11,297 [Jane] She and I were like sharing a room together 969 00:48:11,381 --> 00:48:15,172 and she was actively having a heroin addiction, 970 00:48:15,255 --> 00:48:18,714 which I never saw her take heroin, I never saw heroin. 971 00:48:18,798 --> 00:48:21,297 I mean, how did she do that? She was very secretive. 972 00:48:21,381 --> 00:48:24,422 She'd come to rehearsal, I'd say, "Look at her fucking eyes! 973 00:48:24,506 --> 00:48:26,339 Her eyes are pinned, look at her eyes!" 974 00:48:26,422 --> 00:48:28,631 [Kathy] I went and I knocked on her door. 975 00:48:28,714 --> 00:48:31,214 She answered and she had on her Ray-Bans. 976 00:48:31,297 --> 00:48:33,673 And I said, "They told me that you do heroin." 977 00:48:33,756 --> 00:48:36,172 And she just looked at me, she said, "No, no, no." 978 00:48:36,255 --> 00:48:38,130 And I was like, "Oh, okay, good." 979 00:48:38,214 --> 00:48:40,339 [Gina] She was way more out of control 980 00:48:40,422 --> 00:48:44,089 than I think any of us really knew about. 981 00:48:46,172 --> 00:48:47,214 [man] You alright? 982 00:48:47,297 --> 00:48:49,714 Yeah, I'm trying to figure something out here. 983 00:48:49,798 --> 00:48:50,798 [man] Okay, go ahead. 984 00:48:50,881 --> 00:48:52,881 Just put yours first, just keep it the same. 985 00:48:52,964 --> 00:48:55,673 Are we both saying it? "Hi, we're Kathy and Charlotte." 986 00:48:55,756 --> 00:48:57,547 Yeah, let's just do it. 987 00:48:57,631 --> 00:48:59,756 [man] Okay, we'll give it a try. 988 00:48:59,839 --> 00:49:02,756 Here we go. In three, two... 989 00:49:02,839 --> 00:49:06,089 [both] Hi, we're Kathy and Charlotte of The Go-Go's 990 00:49:06,172 --> 00:49:09,589 and you can watch MTV 24 hours a day 991 00:49:09,673 --> 00:49:12,297 on cable vision in stereo. 992 00:49:12,381 --> 00:49:17,297 ♪♪♪ 993 00:49:18,756 --> 00:49:20,798 ♪ Can you hear them? ♪ 994 00:49:20,881 --> 00:49:22,798 ♪ They talk about us... ♪ 995 00:49:22,881 --> 00:49:25,089 The Go-Go's and MTV came up 996 00:49:25,172 --> 00:49:28,130 at the perfect time for each other, 997 00:49:28,214 --> 00:49:30,673 because MTV was all about, 998 00:49:30,756 --> 00:49:33,923 "This is what the artists that you love look like." 999 00:49:34,005 --> 00:49:38,381 They came along looking adorable and effervescent and fun. 1000 00:49:38,464 --> 00:49:40,923 It just was a match made in heaven. 1001 00:49:41,005 --> 00:49:43,172 ♪ Hey hey hey ♪ 1002 00:49:44,172 --> 00:49:47,214 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 1003 00:49:47,297 --> 00:49:50,214 [Jane] Well, it was a cheap music video, actually. 1004 00:49:50,297 --> 00:49:53,756 "Our Lips Are Sealed" was done on a $6000 budget, 1005 00:49:53,839 --> 00:49:57,631 and that money came from a Police video 1006 00:49:57,714 --> 00:50:00,005 that they didn't spend all their money on, 1007 00:50:00,089 --> 00:50:04,005 so Miles took the money and let us spend it. 1008 00:50:04,089 --> 00:50:05,547 ♪ Doesn't matter what they say ♪ 1009 00:50:05,631 --> 00:50:08,589 [Belinda] We had no idea how important video was going to be, 1010 00:50:08,673 --> 00:50:10,964 so we thought, "This is a big waste of time. 1011 00:50:11,047 --> 00:50:12,839 Why are we doing this?" 1012 00:50:12,923 --> 00:50:14,089 None of us took it seriously. 1013 00:50:14,172 --> 00:50:17,130 We wanted to get arrested and have that on tape. 1014 00:50:18,172 --> 00:50:20,506 [Jane] We decided if we jumped in the fountain, 1015 00:50:20,589 --> 00:50:22,839 the Beverly Hills cops would come and arrest us 1016 00:50:22,923 --> 00:50:25,172 and it would be a really great way to end the video. 1017 00:50:25,255 --> 00:50:27,839 So, we're sitting there frolicking in the water, 1018 00:50:27,923 --> 00:50:29,714 frolicking, frolicking, frolicking. 1019 00:50:29,798 --> 00:50:32,172 [Gina] We jumped around in that goddamn fountain 1020 00:50:32,255 --> 00:50:35,089 for quite a while and nobody even paid any attention to us. 1021 00:50:35,172 --> 00:50:37,798 No one would arrest us. 1022 00:50:37,881 --> 00:50:41,297 [Jane] Next thing you know, MTV is the biggest thing in America 1023 00:50:41,381 --> 00:50:43,839 and they're showing The Go-Go's every half hour. 1024 00:50:43,923 --> 00:50:47,381 ♪ Our lips are sealed ♪ 1025 00:50:47,464 --> 00:50:51,047 [Copeland] I was saying to Ginger, "Your band is happening. 1026 00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:53,381 If we put you on opening for The Police, 1027 00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:58,214 it's going to really open so many more eyes and more ears 1028 00:50:58,297 --> 00:51:01,172 that it might really help make the difference." 1029 00:51:01,255 --> 00:51:05,047 [Ginger] Miles Copeland, with his vision saying, 1030 00:51:05,130 --> 00:51:08,172 "Would you like The Go-Go's to open for The Police?" Why, yes! 1031 00:51:08,255 --> 00:51:12,255 It was a coup for us because they were huge at the time. 1032 00:51:12,339 --> 00:51:14,756 We traveled around the world opening for them. 1033 00:51:14,839 --> 00:51:20,005 ♪♪♪ 1034 00:51:21,255 --> 00:51:24,172 They were the best opening act ever. 1035 00:51:24,255 --> 00:51:27,005 The Go-Go's came out, they were so enthusiastic, so up, 1036 00:51:27,089 --> 00:51:28,547 their songs were so bright 1037 00:51:28,631 --> 00:51:30,756 that they just would light up the room. 1038 00:51:31,964 --> 00:51:34,172 ♪ Walking by ♪ 1039 00:51:34,255 --> 00:51:39,005 ♪ You hold your head so close to hers ♪ 1040 00:51:39,089 --> 00:51:44,005 ♪ I could cry, I could cry ♪ 1041 00:51:44,089 --> 00:51:45,964 ♪ I want to be... ♪ 1042 00:51:46,047 --> 00:51:48,339 [Gina] When we toured with The Police, 1043 00:51:48,422 --> 00:51:51,589 it took us from playing clubs to arenas. 1044 00:51:51,673 --> 00:51:54,964 When I walked out on stage, I almost died. 1045 00:51:55,047 --> 00:51:57,464 ♪♪♪ 1046 00:51:57,547 --> 00:51:59,798 ♪ How much more can I take ♪ 1047 00:51:59,881 --> 00:52:02,339 [Stewart] They had the most important ingredient 1048 00:52:02,422 --> 00:52:04,297 of musicianship, which is feel. 1049 00:52:04,381 --> 00:52:07,881 They established a groove that worked, 1050 00:52:07,964 --> 00:52:09,506 that you could lock into. 1051 00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:12,714 They just created something that exploded on the stage. 1052 00:52:12,798 --> 00:52:15,881 ♪ Yeah, crazy oh yeah ♪ 1053 00:52:15,964 --> 00:52:17,339 Yeah! 1054 00:52:17,422 --> 00:52:21,339 [crowd cheering] 1055 00:52:23,506 --> 00:52:25,839 [Jane] During that Police tour, 1056 00:52:25,923 --> 00:52:28,339 our album kept going up and up and up in the chart. 1057 00:52:28,422 --> 00:52:31,506 Their album was like a sky rocket, 1058 00:52:31,589 --> 00:52:33,839 and that made it really fun for us. 1059 00:52:33,923 --> 00:52:37,798 It was like a vicarious thrill because we were old and jaded, 1060 00:52:37,881 --> 00:52:40,756 to see these women, a new band, 1061 00:52:40,839 --> 00:52:43,756 experiencing the thrill for the first time, 1062 00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,589 that lit us up. 1063 00:52:45,673 --> 00:52:49,005 [Kathy] We were in Atlanta and Sting came in the dressing room 1064 00:52:49,089 --> 00:52:52,589 and he's got champagne. "Congratulations, girls." 1065 00:52:52,673 --> 00:52:54,214 We're looking at him, like, what? 1066 00:52:54,297 --> 00:52:58,339 He said, "Your record has passed ours." 1067 00:52:58,422 --> 00:53:01,464 They were number six and then we went to number one. 1068 00:53:04,255 --> 00:53:06,214 [Jane] They brought us champagne. 1069 00:53:06,297 --> 00:53:09,130 It was actually very gentlemanly of them to do that 1070 00:53:09,214 --> 00:53:11,631 and not kick us off the tour! [laughing] 1071 00:53:11,714 --> 00:53:14,464 [Ginger] Beauty And The Beat's gone to number one 1072 00:53:14,547 --> 00:53:18,297 and I think we were all kind of over the moon. 1073 00:53:19,506 --> 00:53:22,506 [Kathy] This is it, this is everything. 1074 00:53:22,589 --> 00:53:26,631 Every step along the way, it just kept getting better. 1075 00:53:26,714 --> 00:53:31,047 I wish there was another phrase other than "dream come true," 1076 00:53:31,130 --> 00:53:32,839 because it was so beyond that. 1077 00:53:32,923 --> 00:53:35,464 It was like fulfilled everything. 1078 00:53:35,547 --> 00:53:37,297 This is a circus. 1079 00:53:37,381 --> 00:53:39,381 [laughing] 1080 00:53:40,464 --> 00:53:43,130 [Miles] When you have something that bucks the system 1081 00:53:43,214 --> 00:53:45,422 and succeeds, it opens people's eyes. 1082 00:53:45,506 --> 00:53:48,255 They did something that no group has ever done before them, 1083 00:53:48,339 --> 00:53:51,172 and that is have a number-one album in the United States, 1084 00:53:51,255 --> 00:53:53,005 being all girls. 1085 00:53:53,089 --> 00:53:56,506 They opened people's eyes to potential for women 1086 00:53:56,589 --> 00:53:59,923 to do something that had never really been done before. 1087 00:54:01,339 --> 00:54:04,506 For The Go-Go's to have a debut album go to number one, 1088 00:54:04,589 --> 00:54:07,839 that's something that only like 26 other artists have done, 1089 00:54:07,923 --> 00:54:12,047 like you know, the biggies, Elvis, The Beatles. 1090 00:54:12,130 --> 00:54:14,047 [Chris Connelly] They made history. 1091 00:54:14,130 --> 00:54:15,881 They're the first all-female band 1092 00:54:15,964 --> 00:54:17,339 to play their own instruments, 1093 00:54:17,422 --> 00:54:21,756 write their own songs, number-one record for six weeks. 1094 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,005 Mic drop. 1095 00:54:23,089 --> 00:54:25,923 [crowd cheering] 1096 00:54:27,005 --> 00:54:30,464 [Hanna] When I went to The Go-Go's concert in 1982, 1097 00:54:30,547 --> 00:54:33,214 as a young girl going into a space 1098 00:54:33,297 --> 00:54:36,964 where women own the stage, 1099 00:54:37,047 --> 00:54:40,255 and own it unapologetically 1100 00:54:40,339 --> 00:54:42,756 like they were born to be there, 1101 00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:46,756 to me it represented a moment of possibility. 1102 00:54:46,839 --> 00:54:48,172 Thanks, good night! 1103 00:54:48,255 --> 00:54:53,005 [crowd cheering and applauding] 1104 00:54:53,089 --> 00:54:54,506 Thanks a lot! 1105 00:54:54,589 --> 00:54:57,255 These-- we're having a high school reunion, you see. 1106 00:54:57,339 --> 00:54:59,422 I went to high school with all these people. 1107 00:54:59,506 --> 00:55:00,756 Girls run up to us and say, 1108 00:55:00,839 --> 00:55:02,422 "We started a band because of you!" 1109 00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:04,798 That's probably the best feeling in the world, 1110 00:55:04,881 --> 00:55:07,464 it's really great to think that you inspire people 1111 00:55:07,547 --> 00:55:08,673 to go out and start a band. 1112 00:55:08,756 --> 00:55:11,589 So, this is the dawning of a new era, this is it. 1113 00:55:14,714 --> 00:55:17,089 Everybody has a different perspective I'm sure 1114 00:55:17,172 --> 00:55:19,255 on what happened at Saturday Night Live. 1115 00:55:19,339 --> 00:55:20,506 Oh, God. 1116 00:55:21,881 --> 00:55:24,297 [Kathy] We got there 11 in the morning, 1117 00:55:24,381 --> 00:55:27,130 and we had to wait until 11 at night basically. 1118 00:55:27,214 --> 00:55:30,381 I think it was just a case of us 1119 00:55:30,464 --> 00:55:34,464 sitting around a TV studio way too long, 1120 00:55:34,547 --> 00:55:36,881 and then, just starting to dip into the booze. 1121 00:55:36,964 --> 00:55:39,881 [Kathy] Let's have a toast, champagne. 1122 00:55:39,964 --> 00:55:44,297 And then, oh, it's lunch time, we'll have some wine. 1123 00:55:44,381 --> 00:55:46,172 So then, you want to balance it out, 1124 00:55:46,255 --> 00:55:48,172 you want to lift things up a little, 1125 00:55:48,255 --> 00:55:50,297 so magically the blow appears. 1126 00:55:50,381 --> 00:55:52,005 [Charlotte] Right before we went on, 1127 00:55:52,089 --> 00:55:53,631 they said, "Remember, girls, 1128 00:55:53,714 --> 00:55:56,089 you're playing in front of 50 million people live." 1129 00:55:56,172 --> 00:55:58,130 And we were just like ... 1130 00:55:58,214 --> 00:56:00,130 ♪ Yeah, we got it ♪ 1131 00:56:00,214 --> 00:56:02,255 [Gina] We were like cross-eyed drunk. 1132 00:56:02,339 --> 00:56:03,547 [laughing] 1133 00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:10,047 The funny thing is, the next day we sold a ton of records. 1134 00:56:11,005 --> 00:56:13,422 [Kathy] Even buzzing, messed-up Go-Go's 1135 00:56:13,506 --> 00:56:15,631 being beamed into people's living rooms, 1136 00:56:15,714 --> 00:56:18,047 it' still something that people are just going, 1137 00:56:18,130 --> 00:56:19,089 "Whoa, we like this." 1138 00:56:19,172 --> 00:56:22,130 [audience cheering] 1139 00:56:22,214 --> 00:56:25,130 Now that we've had a little bit of success and stuff 1140 00:56:25,214 --> 00:56:28,673 and now we know how wonderful it can be, we want more. 1141 00:56:30,422 --> 00:56:32,089 [Jane] The Rolling Stone cover 1142 00:56:32,172 --> 00:56:34,506 was supposed to be a comment on sexism, 1143 00:56:34,589 --> 00:56:35,964 and obviously it backfired, 1144 00:56:36,047 --> 00:56:39,005 because if we had really been trying to be sexy 1145 00:56:39,089 --> 00:56:40,839 and push our wares as women, 1146 00:56:40,923 --> 00:56:42,923 you know, we would have worn sexy underwear 1147 00:56:43,005 --> 00:56:45,422 instead of, you know, Hanes and Fruit of the Loom. 1148 00:56:45,506 --> 00:56:47,756 It's so tame, but when it came out 1149 00:56:47,839 --> 00:56:51,172 it did not help that Rolling Stone chose the headline: 1150 00:56:51,255 --> 00:56:53,422 "The Go-Go's Put Out." 1151 00:56:53,506 --> 00:56:56,130 [Ginger] "Ginger, you've gotta call Rolling Stone. 1152 00:56:56,214 --> 00:56:57,339 We're not happy. 1153 00:56:57,422 --> 00:56:59,839 We don't like that they used these pictures 1154 00:56:59,923 --> 00:57:02,089 on the front of the magazine." 1155 00:57:02,172 --> 00:57:03,506 So, I phoned Rolling Stone 1156 00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:05,255 and asked for Jann the publisher. 1157 00:57:05,339 --> 00:57:08,589 I said, "Jann, some of the girls are very upset about the image 1158 00:57:08,673 --> 00:57:10,547 used on the front of the magazine." 1159 00:57:10,631 --> 00:57:13,839 And there was a brief pause and Jann said, 1160 00:57:13,923 --> 00:57:16,798 "I thought you were calling me to thank me for the cover. 1161 00:57:16,881 --> 00:57:19,005 You girls need to grow up." Clunk! 1162 00:57:19,089 --> 00:57:22,047 Maybe that's why we're not in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, 1163 00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:24,464 those ungrateful wenches. 1164 00:57:26,798 --> 00:57:29,631 Our success was so quick, 1165 00:57:29,714 --> 00:57:32,381 and I always felt like a little bit of an impostor 1166 00:57:32,464 --> 00:57:34,673 when it came to success, like it was undeserved. 1167 00:57:34,756 --> 00:57:37,089 [host] We asked them why they are succeeding 1168 00:57:37,172 --> 00:57:38,756 where other girl groups have failed. 1169 00:57:38,839 --> 00:57:41,673 The majority of the reason must be because of the songs, 1170 00:57:41,756 --> 00:57:44,464 if people don't like your songs they're not gonna wanna 1171 00:57:44,547 --> 00:57:46,297 come see you live, or buy your records. 1172 00:57:46,381 --> 00:57:48,756 [Gina] Whether you're a girl or whatever you are. 1173 00:57:48,839 --> 00:57:52,255 I think that timing and luck, there is an element of that. 1174 00:57:52,339 --> 00:57:55,923 I think luckily for us there are now five.... 1175 00:57:56,005 --> 00:58:01,756 women all in one band who all have fear of failure. 1176 00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,005 Really. 1177 00:58:04,089 --> 00:58:06,464 [Belinda] I think everybody, not just the band, 1178 00:58:06,547 --> 00:58:07,756 probably the record company, 1179 00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,255 was scrambling around to figure out what to do next 1180 00:58:10,339 --> 00:58:11,756 on the back of such a big success. 1181 00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,881 Putting out a second album made sense to the record industry 1182 00:58:14,964 --> 00:58:18,255 because they want to make more records and make more money. 1183 00:58:18,339 --> 00:58:22,255 And they're going to milk it for everything that they can, 1184 00:58:22,339 --> 00:58:24,047 but at a price. 1185 00:58:24,130 --> 00:58:26,339 [host] Do you have any time to write songs now 1186 00:58:26,422 --> 00:58:28,339 with all the traveling you're doing? 1187 00:58:28,422 --> 00:58:30,839 [Charlotte] We've come, right now we're starting, 1188 00:58:30,923 --> 00:58:33,506 this next month we're going to work on new stuff. 1189 00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:35,756 [host] What are you gonna write about? 1190 00:58:35,839 --> 00:58:37,756 [Charlotte] Well, I can't really say 1191 00:58:37,839 --> 00:58:40,798 what we're going to write about, I don't know. 1192 00:58:40,881 --> 00:58:42,964 Vacation as a record, 1193 00:58:43,047 --> 00:58:47,881 we were so rushed that the songwriting reflects that. 1194 00:58:48,881 --> 00:58:51,422 But I felt like, "Oh, my God, I wrote a hit song 1195 00:58:51,506 --> 00:58:53,130 and now what do I do," you know? 1196 00:58:53,214 --> 00:58:56,130 It's like, it messes with your head. 1197 00:58:56,214 --> 00:58:59,714 And, you know, you always hear about the sophomore jinx. 1198 00:59:03,547 --> 00:59:06,798 I was freaking out because we were scrambling for material 1199 00:59:06,881 --> 00:59:08,673 and then, luckily we got "Vacation." 1200 00:59:08,756 --> 00:59:12,214 Kathy wrote "Vacation" and was playing it in her previous band 1201 00:59:12,297 --> 00:59:14,631 to The Go-Go's, The Textones. 1202 00:59:17,047 --> 00:59:21,047 ♪ I've thought a lot of things about you ♪ 1203 00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:26,339 ♪ I've stayed awake just thinking 'bout you ♪ 1204 00:59:26,422 --> 00:59:27,964 [Kathy] I showed it to Charlotte, 1205 00:59:28,047 --> 00:59:29,756 she said, "I really like this song, 1206 00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:31,881 I think, you know, it needs more of a chorus." 1207 00:59:31,964 --> 00:59:36,964 ♪ Tomorrow's a day of mine that you won't be in ♪ 1208 00:59:37,047 --> 00:59:40,547 I really felt like the original version kind of went down, 1209 00:59:40,631 --> 00:59:42,506 and this, it just should have gone up. 1210 00:59:42,589 --> 00:59:45,339 ♪ Vacation, all I ever wanted ♪ 1211 00:59:45,422 --> 00:59:48,255 ♪ A vacation, had to get away ♪ 1212 00:59:48,339 --> 00:59:50,881 If we hadn't had that song on the record, 1213 00:59:50,964 --> 00:59:53,839 it would have been a very different outcome for us. 1214 00:59:53,923 --> 00:59:56,673 That probably would've ended everything right there, 1215 00:59:56,756 --> 00:59:58,381 'cause that song was really cool. 1216 00:59:58,464 --> 00:59:59,923 ♪ Had to get away ♪ 1217 01:00:00,005 --> 01:00:02,839 ♪ Vacation, meant to be spent alone ♪ 1218 01:00:02,923 --> 01:00:05,923 Who knew that the girls were such able water skiers? 1219 01:00:06,005 --> 01:00:10,589 At the video shoot, they started wandering off 1220 01:00:10,673 --> 01:00:13,089 wearing their little water ski tutus 1221 01:00:13,172 --> 01:00:15,589 and started walking up La Brea Avenue. 1222 01:00:15,673 --> 01:00:18,756 I followed them and started snapping away. 1223 01:00:19,589 --> 01:00:21,756 They just looked like four ballerinas 1224 01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:24,631 between takes on a movie set or something. 1225 01:00:27,547 --> 01:00:30,839 "Vacation" soon hit the radio waves 1226 01:00:30,923 --> 01:00:34,839 and did really, really well and got lots of play. 1227 01:00:34,964 --> 01:00:38,130 But it stalled in the charts. 1228 01:00:38,214 --> 01:00:42,047 [interviewer] Are you still getting along? 1229 01:00:42,130 --> 01:00:46,214 Yeah, we're getting along really good, as a matter of fact. 1230 01:00:46,297 --> 01:00:48,297 I mean, but this is the beginning of tour, 1231 01:00:48,381 --> 01:00:50,172 so we'll see how it is the last week. 1232 01:00:50,255 --> 01:00:51,297 No, we'll get along, 1233 01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:54,089 we always have got along pretty good I'd say. 1234 01:00:54,172 --> 01:00:55,506 [crowd cheering] 1235 01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:56,547 Show time! 1236 01:00:56,631 --> 01:01:00,089 ♪ It's everything but party time ♪ 1237 01:01:00,172 --> 01:01:04,255 ♪ It's everything but party time... ♪ 1238 01:01:04,339 --> 01:01:06,798 [Gina] I mean, this was like a fucking treadmill. 1239 01:01:06,881 --> 01:01:10,422 They were pushing us constantly. We were on tour constantly. 1240 01:01:12,381 --> 01:01:14,547 [Ginger] You would be absolutely exhausted 1241 01:01:14,631 --> 01:01:18,464 and arrive from some long transatlantic flight, 1242 01:01:18,547 --> 01:01:21,381 and the promoter for an upcoming show 1243 01:01:21,464 --> 01:01:23,631 was reaching out to you in panic saying, 1244 01:01:23,714 --> 01:01:25,964 "We need the girls to do this, this, this and this." 1245 01:01:26,047 --> 01:01:28,631 [interviewer] This has been an incredible year. 1246 01:01:28,714 --> 01:01:30,547 The success, how's it affected your life 1247 01:01:30,631 --> 01:01:32,130 at this stage of the ball game? 1248 01:01:32,214 --> 01:01:34,756 [Charlotte] We're aware of how well we're doing 1249 01:01:34,839 --> 01:01:36,714 but we don't feel it, yeah, not yet. 1250 01:01:36,798 --> 01:01:39,881 [Kathy] Just too much overload on the brain right now. 1251 01:01:41,381 --> 01:01:43,464 [Belinda] My life has been planned out for me 1252 01:01:43,547 --> 01:01:45,339 for the next two years. 1253 01:01:45,422 --> 01:01:46,714 I can tell you my schedule 1254 01:01:46,798 --> 01:01:49,422 until September of next year practically. 1255 01:01:51,923 --> 01:01:54,506 [Miles] When you go from nowhere to number one, 1256 01:01:54,589 --> 01:01:57,714 things change, it's inevitable. 1257 01:01:59,422 --> 01:02:02,047 The old joke is, you know, when you're a new manager 1258 01:02:02,130 --> 01:02:03,631 and you knew what you were doing 1259 01:02:03,714 --> 01:02:06,547 and you're signing a new band, you're God. 1260 01:02:06,631 --> 01:02:09,130 The day they're number one, you're the janitor. 1261 01:02:09,214 --> 01:02:12,047 ♪ Can't seem to get my mind off of you ♪ 1262 01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:15,089 [director] What's the worst thing about being a manager? 1263 01:02:17,297 --> 01:02:19,422 When they don't want you anymore. 1264 01:02:21,923 --> 01:02:26,839 [Belinda] I think the band just got too big for her to handle. 1265 01:02:26,923 --> 01:02:30,589 [Gina] We wanted to make the most of the time 1266 01:02:30,673 --> 01:02:32,047 that we had in the spotlight. 1267 01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:35,631 We wanted to make money and continue to be successful, 1268 01:02:35,714 --> 01:02:38,589 and we felt like we needed... 1269 01:02:38,673 --> 01:02:41,673 a more experienced person at the helm. 1270 01:02:42,673 --> 01:02:44,881 [Ginger] It was surprising how quickly 1271 01:02:44,964 --> 01:02:47,798 people came out of the woodwork, other managers, 1272 01:02:47,881 --> 01:02:49,923 saying how they could do so much better 1273 01:02:50,005 --> 01:02:53,047 if they had a big management team behind them. 1274 01:02:54,714 --> 01:02:56,381 [Gina] I'm pretty sure that she knew 1275 01:02:56,464 --> 01:02:59,422 we wanted her to work with a bigger manager 1276 01:02:59,506 --> 01:03:02,673 that had a firm instead of like one person. 1277 01:03:02,756 --> 01:03:05,339 I'm getting kind of choked up, my throat. 1278 01:03:05,422 --> 01:03:06,923 It's like... 1279 01:03:07,005 --> 01:03:09,631 No, no, it's just that it's emotional for me, 1280 01:03:09,714 --> 01:03:11,047 because going back to that time 1281 01:03:11,130 --> 01:03:14,506 it was difficult, remembering it and how I felt. 1282 01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:18,839 It was very painful. 1283 01:03:18,923 --> 01:03:21,089 My band was taken away from me. 1284 01:03:21,172 --> 01:03:23,047 I remember sitting in on meetings 1285 01:03:23,130 --> 01:03:25,881 and feeling incredibly little 1286 01:03:25,964 --> 01:03:27,923 as the girls sat on the edge of their seat 1287 01:03:28,005 --> 01:03:31,381 looking enthralled by these new managers, 1288 01:03:31,464 --> 01:03:33,089 all men, not that that mattered, 1289 01:03:33,172 --> 01:03:35,297 but just like a new power base, 1290 01:03:35,381 --> 01:03:37,047 like this was going to be great, 1291 01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:39,923 that this was going to be, like, change everything. 1292 01:03:40,005 --> 01:03:42,798 It was horrible having them say with the band there, 1293 01:03:42,881 --> 01:03:45,923 "Well, Ginger, we know you know how to take a band from A to B, 1294 01:03:46,005 --> 01:03:47,381 and you do a great job. 1295 01:03:47,464 --> 01:03:50,214 We can take that band from B to Z." 1296 01:03:50,297 --> 01:03:55,172 We felt like it was going to help us go to another level. 1297 01:03:55,255 --> 01:03:56,839 People that set all of it in motion, 1298 01:03:56,923 --> 01:03:59,047 they knew that my days would be numbered, 1299 01:03:59,130 --> 01:04:01,005 that anyone with any integrity, 1300 01:04:01,089 --> 01:04:04,089 you're not going to stick around. Why would you? 1301 01:04:04,172 --> 01:04:07,547 I guess we hurt her, must have hurt her pretty badly 1302 01:04:07,631 --> 01:04:11,422 because she just, one day she was gone. 1303 01:04:11,506 --> 01:04:14,255 It was no "fuck you" or nothing, it was just gone. 1304 01:04:14,339 --> 01:04:17,130 [director] How angry were you? 1305 01:04:17,214 --> 01:04:19,130 Angry enough to move to New York? 1306 01:04:21,631 --> 01:04:24,756 [Belinda] She was like the sixth Go-Go. 1307 01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:29,798 When she left, it really turned into a big business. 1308 01:04:29,881 --> 01:04:32,172 It wasn't even that much fun anymore. 1309 01:04:32,255 --> 01:04:35,422 We just, that's all we knew how to do was be a Go-Go. 1310 01:04:38,047 --> 01:04:40,130 [Jane] Gina was in our new manager's office, 1311 01:04:40,214 --> 01:04:42,964 supposedly a more professional management company 1312 01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:44,172 who turned out to suck, 1313 01:04:44,255 --> 01:04:46,756 we should've just stuck with Ginger. 1314 01:04:46,839 --> 01:04:50,839 But, I guess Gina saw a check that Charlotte got 1315 01:04:50,923 --> 01:04:53,214 and it was for, like, a gazillion dollars. 1316 01:04:53,297 --> 01:04:56,005 And of course, Gina wasn't getting a check like that. 1317 01:04:56,089 --> 01:04:57,756 I almost fell over. 1318 01:04:57,839 --> 01:05:00,839 He said, "See how much she makes? 1319 01:05:00,923 --> 01:05:03,631 That's 'cause she's a songwriter." 1320 01:05:03,714 --> 01:05:06,506 [Miles] There are two ways you make money out of a record. 1321 01:05:06,589 --> 01:05:08,881 You make it in the recording and the publishing. 1322 01:05:08,964 --> 01:05:10,673 The person who writes the songs, 1323 01:05:10,756 --> 01:05:14,673 which is really the vehicle that you need... 1324 01:05:14,756 --> 01:05:16,506 is going to make more money. 1325 01:05:16,589 --> 01:05:18,506 And that can cause problems. 1326 01:05:18,589 --> 01:05:20,297 You write a lot of the songs, right? 1327 01:05:20,381 --> 01:05:21,464 -Yeah. -With Charlotte? 1328 01:05:21,547 --> 01:05:23,714 [Jane] Charlotte writing "We Got The Beat" 1329 01:05:23,798 --> 01:05:25,214 all by herself, that song was huge. 1330 01:05:25,297 --> 01:05:28,214 It's like everyone wanted it for commercials and movies 1331 01:05:28,297 --> 01:05:29,631 and TV shows, and that's like 1332 01:05:29,714 --> 01:05:32,047 cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching, cha-ching. 1333 01:05:32,130 --> 01:05:35,047 Songwriting was so important to me, it was my identity. 1334 01:05:35,130 --> 01:05:38,172 That's why I held so close, so dear to me 1335 01:05:38,255 --> 01:05:41,047 and, you know, you can't, you can't take any part of this. 1336 01:05:41,130 --> 01:05:44,047 This is mine, this is who I am. 1337 01:05:44,130 --> 01:05:46,923 I will still stand behind the belief that songwriting 1338 01:05:47,005 --> 01:05:49,881 is a really specific skill that many people don't have, 1339 01:05:49,964 --> 01:05:51,422 and it's a lot of extra hard work 1340 01:05:51,506 --> 01:05:53,172 that other people aren't doing. 1341 01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:57,047 [Kathy] I'd made more money 1342 01:05:57,130 --> 01:06:00,005 than I'd ever imagined in my lifetime, 1343 01:06:00,089 --> 01:06:03,964 but I knew there was going to be an issue in the discrepancy 1344 01:06:04,047 --> 01:06:07,130 between the highest earner, who was Charlotte, 1345 01:06:07,214 --> 01:06:10,798 and the lowest earner, who was Gina and Belinda. 1346 01:06:10,881 --> 01:06:12,631 I knew there was gonna be a problem. 1347 01:06:12,714 --> 01:06:15,506 Most people think that we're really rich right now, 1348 01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:18,339 but I don't... 1349 01:06:18,422 --> 01:06:21,255 I know that we're not rich right now! 1350 01:06:21,339 --> 01:06:24,047 [Belinda] I was too busy having a lot of fun, 1351 01:06:24,130 --> 01:06:27,255 and I just let the others write the songs. 1352 01:06:27,339 --> 01:06:29,923 Gina would say to me, "This is not fair," 1353 01:06:30,005 --> 01:06:34,339 and, you know, and I would say, "I know it's not fair," 1354 01:06:34,422 --> 01:06:36,923 but I felt like inside 1355 01:06:37,005 --> 01:06:39,089 like I really had no right to say anything 1356 01:06:39,172 --> 01:06:41,172 because I was such a fuck-up. 1357 01:06:43,172 --> 01:06:46,589 [Kathy] What scared me was an unhappy lead singer, 1358 01:06:46,673 --> 01:06:50,047 who pretty much made the band into contenders, 1359 01:06:50,130 --> 01:06:53,964 feeling cheated and unappreciated. 1360 01:06:54,047 --> 01:06:55,964 It set up a vibe 1361 01:06:56,047 --> 01:07:00,547 where I started feeling very concerned about our future. 1362 01:07:02,589 --> 01:07:05,172 And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? 1363 01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:08,964 Now, we're already having this be a problem? 1364 01:07:09,047 --> 01:07:11,172 The fighting and the real drugs 1365 01:07:11,255 --> 01:07:15,881 happen when we all get money, you know. 1366 01:07:15,964 --> 01:07:17,923 It wrecks everything. 1367 01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:24,547 ♪ Walking around it's clear that I'm worlds away ♪ 1368 01:07:24,631 --> 01:07:28,631 Charlotte was isolating quite a bit. 1369 01:07:28,714 --> 01:07:30,589 I spend a lot of time here. 1370 01:07:30,673 --> 01:07:31,881 I don't go out that often, 1371 01:07:32,005 --> 01:07:34,297 because I like it here a lot in my house. 1372 01:07:34,381 --> 01:07:38,339 I bought a house up in the hills and I was by myself. 1373 01:07:38,422 --> 01:07:40,673 It was a bad situation. 1374 01:07:40,756 --> 01:07:43,089 I was suffering, 1375 01:07:43,172 --> 01:07:46,798 and I didn't know who to talk to or what to do. 1376 01:07:46,881 --> 01:07:48,798 [Belinda] No, we're just like sisters 1377 01:07:48,881 --> 01:07:51,756 and we're all looking out for, you know, 1378 01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:54,339 each other all the time, 1379 01:07:54,422 --> 01:07:57,172 and we all love each other very much. 1380 01:07:58,255 --> 01:08:01,172 We didn't communicate, and then when we did communicate 1381 01:08:01,255 --> 01:08:03,881 we didn't do it in a loving, sort of respectful way. 1382 01:08:03,964 --> 01:08:08,422 [Jane] By 1984, things were getting pretty frazzled with us. 1383 01:08:08,506 --> 01:08:12,798 We'd still really never had been given enough time to write 1384 01:08:12,881 --> 01:08:14,381 or recuperate or anything. 1385 01:08:14,464 --> 01:08:16,339 So, it was very tense. 1386 01:08:16,422 --> 01:08:20,047 [Gina] Being in a band, you become each other's best friends 1387 01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:22,381 and also each other's worst enemies. 1388 01:08:23,464 --> 01:08:26,881 [Kathy] It became a difficult place to be 1389 01:08:26,964 --> 01:08:29,381 because I always wanted to put out fires. 1390 01:08:30,631 --> 01:08:34,297 Somebody's not happy, you know, fix this, fix, fix, fix, 1391 01:08:34,381 --> 01:08:37,255 you know, and have fun. 1392 01:08:37,339 --> 01:08:39,756 No matter how miserable everyone is, have fun. 1393 01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:43,714 [military drumming] 1394 01:08:43,798 --> 01:08:47,381 [car horns honking] 1395 01:08:47,464 --> 01:08:49,881 [Gina] This is when we first got to England, 1396 01:08:49,964 --> 01:08:51,756 making the third record. 1397 01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,631 And this was the clown family. 1398 01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:57,339 [Kathy] We had something called the clown family 1399 01:08:57,422 --> 01:09:00,673 where everybody posed the same way and put on a clown nose. 1400 01:09:01,881 --> 01:09:04,673 [Gina] This is the clown family watching TV. 1401 01:09:08,339 --> 01:09:11,923 And here's the clown family doing some blow, 1402 01:09:12,005 --> 01:09:14,422 upon arrival in London. 1403 01:09:16,214 --> 01:09:19,255 [laughing] 1404 01:09:20,631 --> 01:09:24,255 The ultimate is the clown family giving birth to another clown. 1405 01:09:24,339 --> 01:09:27,923 [laughing] Except Jane was the other clown. 1406 01:09:28,005 --> 01:09:30,339 Every single person birthed Jane. 1407 01:09:32,089 --> 01:09:35,381 ♪ Like an old movie backdrop ♪ 1408 01:09:37,422 --> 01:09:40,214 ♪ The radio's blasting ♪ 1409 01:09:40,297 --> 01:09:42,839 We still managed to have a lot of fun, 1410 01:09:42,923 --> 01:09:45,464 despite what might have been going on. 1411 01:09:45,547 --> 01:09:50,297 ♪ She says "I just wanted to make you" ♪ 1412 01:09:50,381 --> 01:09:54,714 ♪ "I never meant to break you" ♪ 1413 01:09:54,798 --> 01:09:58,547 ♪ He says "Have some mercy on me" ♪ 1414 01:10:01,297 --> 01:10:06,130 ♪ "Do you have to be such a mercenary?" ♪ 1415 01:10:10,798 --> 01:10:12,172 [Miles] I went into the studio 1416 01:10:12,255 --> 01:10:14,422 when they were recording the third album. 1417 01:10:14,506 --> 01:10:17,297 There was a famous scene of one of the members vomiting on me, 1418 01:10:17,381 --> 01:10:19,506 you know, she'd had too much to drink. 1419 01:10:19,589 --> 01:10:21,172 I won't mention who, 1420 01:10:21,255 --> 01:10:24,339 but I was covered in vomit in the studio. 1421 01:10:24,422 --> 01:10:26,089 So, I knew stuff was going on. 1422 01:10:26,172 --> 01:10:28,381 Good evening, I'm Charlotte. 1423 01:10:28,464 --> 01:10:31,339 -Good evening, I'm Gina. -Good evening, I'm Jane. 1424 01:10:31,422 --> 01:10:33,255 -I'm Kathy. -Good evening, I'm Belinda, 1425 01:10:33,339 --> 01:10:36,005 -I'm The Go-Go's. -She's not! No, I'm The Go-Go's. 1426 01:10:36,089 --> 01:10:38,506 -I'm The Go-Go's. -No, we're all The Go-Go's. 1427 01:10:38,589 --> 01:10:40,422 Well, anyway... 1428 01:10:40,506 --> 01:10:43,756 [Kathy] We'd started writing songs for the third record, 1429 01:10:43,839 --> 01:10:48,089 but Charlotte hit a bit of a writing block. 1430 01:10:48,172 --> 01:10:52,089 It got harder to write, actually, it prevented me. 1431 01:10:52,172 --> 01:10:53,631 I was really writing a lot, 1432 01:10:53,714 --> 01:10:57,589 because Charlotte was in a lot of trouble with the drugs. 1433 01:10:57,673 --> 01:11:02,214 ♪ When it goes dark, forget the night ♪ 1434 01:11:03,339 --> 01:11:06,589 There are people that really loved that album, 1435 01:11:06,673 --> 01:11:08,714 but I can't even listen to it 1436 01:11:08,798 --> 01:11:13,464 because to me I was so miserable during that time, oh, my God. 1437 01:11:14,506 --> 01:11:17,130 ♪ When it goes dark ♪ 1438 01:11:17,214 --> 01:11:19,339 ♪ Get me to bed ♪ 1439 01:11:19,422 --> 01:11:22,047 On that trip, there was an implosion. 1440 01:11:22,130 --> 01:11:23,631 Jane got really upset. 1441 01:11:23,714 --> 01:11:26,214 ♪ Wait for the light of day ♪ 1442 01:11:26,297 --> 01:11:28,964 I think she felt frustrated probably with me 1443 01:11:29,047 --> 01:11:31,172 and with wanting to have a bigger role. 1444 01:11:31,255 --> 01:11:32,923 ♪ I'm the only one you run to ♪ 1445 01:11:33,005 --> 01:11:34,798 ♪ The one you come to ♪ 1446 01:11:34,881 --> 01:11:36,589 ♪ The only one you can get to ♪ 1447 01:11:36,673 --> 01:11:39,089 ♪ I'm the only one for you ♪ 1448 01:11:39,172 --> 01:11:41,964 -♪ I'm the only one ♪ -♪ Only one for you ♪ 1449 01:11:42,047 --> 01:11:45,422 -♪ I'm the only one ♪ -♪ Only one for you ♪ 1450 01:11:45,506 --> 01:11:48,589 -♪ I'm the only one ♪ -♪ Only one for you ♪ 1451 01:11:48,673 --> 01:11:50,214 ♪ I'm the only one ♪ 1452 01:11:50,297 --> 01:11:52,089 [Jane] When we were recording the album, 1453 01:11:52,172 --> 01:11:55,089 I had decided that I wanted to sing one song on the record, 1454 01:11:55,172 --> 01:11:56,923 and there was one song that I'd written 1455 01:11:57,005 --> 01:11:59,839 that was super personal to me called "Forget That Day." 1456 01:11:59,923 --> 01:12:01,756 Then, I went to each girl and was like, 1457 01:12:01,839 --> 01:12:03,923 "Please, can I sing this one song?" 1458 01:12:04,005 --> 01:12:07,214 ♪ I remember that day ♪ 1459 01:12:07,297 --> 01:12:10,756 ♪ Wind pushing birds around ♪ 1460 01:12:10,839 --> 01:12:14,714 She came to us and we just said, "No." 1461 01:12:14,798 --> 01:12:18,214 Belinda was the lead singer, it just felt weird. 1462 01:12:18,297 --> 01:12:20,923 We decided that that wasn't the way to go, 1463 01:12:21,005 --> 01:12:24,464 that we wanted to keep everybody had their role within the band, 1464 01:12:24,547 --> 01:12:26,297 and that was the way it was going to be. 1465 01:12:26,381 --> 01:12:28,005 I don't really like to talk about that, 1466 01:12:28,089 --> 01:12:32,464 because it wasn't like a unanimous thing in this band. 1467 01:12:32,547 --> 01:12:33,964 One of them said, 1468 01:12:34,047 --> 01:12:36,964 "What makes you think you're good enough to sing a song?" 1469 01:12:37,047 --> 01:12:40,047 Which is something I'll never forget hearing. 1470 01:12:40,130 --> 01:12:41,798 It was a huge betrayal, 1471 01:12:41,881 --> 01:12:44,464 and I did not know how to get past it. 1472 01:12:44,547 --> 01:12:46,422 ♪ I lost my heart ♪ 1473 01:12:46,506 --> 01:12:50,172 ♪ But I just said I hate heights ♪ 1474 01:12:50,255 --> 01:12:52,089 It never occurred to any of us 1475 01:12:52,172 --> 01:12:55,756 that we have to sit down and how can we make this work? 1476 01:12:56,798 --> 01:13:00,172 But, no, nothing could change, nobody could grow. 1477 01:13:00,255 --> 01:13:01,964 And I was part of it, too. 1478 01:13:02,047 --> 01:13:04,464 ♪ I left to get some work done ♪ 1479 01:13:04,547 --> 01:13:09,339 We made Belinda feel guilty for being a star and a diva. 1480 01:13:11,923 --> 01:13:16,673 We made Jane feel like what she wanted and needed 1481 01:13:16,756 --> 01:13:20,172 was not important enough for us to even sit down and talk about. 1482 01:13:21,506 --> 01:13:24,798 We made Gina feel like what she contributed wasn't enough. 1483 01:13:24,881 --> 01:13:27,172 You don't deserve to make as much. 1484 01:13:27,255 --> 01:13:30,172 ♪ Why'd you say you love me ♪ 1485 01:13:30,255 --> 01:13:32,756 And we couldn't see the pain 1486 01:13:32,839 --> 01:13:36,214 that Charlotte was walking around in. 1487 01:13:36,297 --> 01:13:38,589 ♪ Try to forget that day ♪ 1488 01:13:46,381 --> 01:13:48,214 [Miles] I was always an optimist 1489 01:13:48,297 --> 01:13:51,297 hoping that we would keep the things together. 1490 01:13:51,381 --> 01:13:54,547 I don't know that they recognized then, 1491 01:13:54,631 --> 01:13:58,172 and after the third album, what they really had together. 1492 01:13:59,714 --> 01:14:02,381 ♪ Head over heels, where should I go ♪ 1493 01:14:02,464 --> 01:14:04,798 [Kathy] "Head Over Heels", we made a video, 1494 01:14:04,881 --> 01:14:07,881 it got released as a single. 1495 01:14:07,964 --> 01:14:10,589 The tour machine's picking up. 1496 01:14:10,673 --> 01:14:12,714 ♪ ...out of sync ♪ 1497 01:14:12,798 --> 01:14:16,506 ♪♪♪ 1498 01:14:16,589 --> 01:14:18,881 We were getting ready to tour for the third record. 1499 01:14:18,964 --> 01:14:20,798 We were at rehearsal and a call came in, 1500 01:14:20,881 --> 01:14:23,214 it was like, "Gina, your doctor's on the phone." 1501 01:14:23,297 --> 01:14:25,839 I was like... We all sort of stopped, like, what is this? 1502 01:14:25,923 --> 01:14:29,172 Gina had always been like coming off stage, "I can't breathe," 1503 01:14:29,255 --> 01:14:31,798 and we'd be like, "Oh, my God, she's such a drama queen," 1504 01:14:31,881 --> 01:14:35,923 like, no, absolutely like no sympathy whatsoever for her. 1505 01:14:36,005 --> 01:14:37,255 Now what? 1506 01:14:37,339 --> 01:14:41,422 Because she has been seeing this doctor and that doctor 1507 01:14:41,506 --> 01:14:43,381 and we're just like, "Oh, come on." 1508 01:14:43,464 --> 01:14:45,339 But as it turns out she couldn't breathe 1509 01:14:45,422 --> 01:14:46,798 because she had a hole in her heart 1510 01:14:46,881 --> 01:14:49,756 and she wasn't getting enough oxygen. Yeah, so... our bad. 1511 01:14:49,839 --> 01:14:52,172 Gina was diagnosed with a hole in her heart. 1512 01:14:52,255 --> 01:14:53,798 She was going to have surgery. 1513 01:14:53,881 --> 01:14:55,464 Heart surgery, what the fuck? 1514 01:14:55,547 --> 01:14:56,631 It was a little scary, 1515 01:14:56,714 --> 01:14:59,130 but we dealt with it with a lot of, like, humor. 1516 01:14:59,214 --> 01:15:01,714 Our humor was, you know, 1517 01:15:01,798 --> 01:15:04,673 always gallows dark. 1518 01:15:04,756 --> 01:15:07,923 So, we decided to have this final lost weekend 1519 01:15:08,005 --> 01:15:11,130 in Palm Springs together just in case Gina croaked. 1520 01:15:11,214 --> 01:15:13,631 They were taking me out on my last hurrah. 1521 01:15:13,714 --> 01:15:16,839 ♪♪♪ 1522 01:15:16,923 --> 01:15:20,798 We rented I think a convertible Jag and a convertible Cadillac. 1523 01:15:20,881 --> 01:15:24,631 Let's buy a bunch of drugs and go out to the desert. 1524 01:15:24,714 --> 01:15:26,964 [Jane] We had just like a shit ton of drugs 1525 01:15:27,047 --> 01:15:29,589 and we're driving into Palm Springs 1526 01:15:29,673 --> 01:15:31,047 going 100 miles an hour. 1527 01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:32,589 [truck horn blaring] 1528 01:15:35,214 --> 01:15:37,255 It was a total weekend of debauchery 1529 01:15:37,339 --> 01:15:41,297 and drugs and drinking. 1530 01:15:41,381 --> 01:15:44,297 ♪ Sex ♪ 1531 01:15:46,964 --> 01:15:48,631 [Jane] And we had a special rule 1532 01:15:48,714 --> 01:15:50,631 that Gina was not allowed to do cocaine, 1533 01:15:50,714 --> 01:15:53,047 she can only do booze, Valium and mushrooms, 1534 01:15:53,130 --> 01:15:54,798 so you know, we were keeping her safe! 1535 01:15:54,881 --> 01:15:58,047 Because they didn't want me to have a heart attack. 1536 01:15:58,130 --> 01:15:59,673 [laughing] 1537 01:15:59,756 --> 01:16:04,673 ♪♪♪ 1538 01:16:10,506 --> 01:16:13,506 [Belinda] It did bring the band together temporarily. 1539 01:16:13,589 --> 01:16:16,756 [Gina] It's funny how you can feel so isolated 1540 01:16:16,839 --> 01:16:18,839 from people in the band, 1541 01:16:18,923 --> 01:16:22,923 and then in a minute, in a second, you're family again. 1542 01:16:24,005 --> 01:16:26,798 We were really at odds, and when I had that surgery 1543 01:16:26,881 --> 01:16:30,547 everybody sort of came together for a while there. 1544 01:16:30,631 --> 01:16:33,005 [host] We've gotten a lot of calls and letters 1545 01:16:33,089 --> 01:16:34,714 and your fans are real concerned. 1546 01:16:34,798 --> 01:16:37,255 If you could just give us an update on your health? 1547 01:16:37,339 --> 01:16:38,631 I'm fine. My heart is better. 1548 01:16:38,714 --> 01:16:40,673 My doctor told me I can do anything I like. 1549 01:16:40,756 --> 01:16:44,089 I can't wait to get out on tour because I'm bored to death. 1550 01:16:44,172 --> 01:16:45,798 [laughing] 1551 01:16:45,881 --> 01:16:48,047 [host] Well, I do want to talk about the tour. 1552 01:16:48,130 --> 01:16:50,714 What kind of tour sponsorship are you considering? 1553 01:16:50,798 --> 01:16:53,255 [Jane] Before the album was released, that's kind of 1554 01:16:53,339 --> 01:16:55,964 when the publishing thing really came to a head. 1555 01:16:56,047 --> 01:16:57,381 We were called to a meeting 1556 01:16:57,464 --> 01:16:59,506 at the crappy management's office, 1557 01:16:59,589 --> 01:17:03,214 and it was stated all the publishing 1558 01:17:03,297 --> 01:17:04,673 needs to be split equally. 1559 01:17:04,756 --> 01:17:07,381 And then, I said, "Well, wait a minute, 1560 01:17:07,464 --> 01:17:09,381 "this album is totally done. 1561 01:17:09,464 --> 01:17:12,422 "I totally agree to do that for the next album, 1562 01:17:12,506 --> 01:17:14,214 "but I'm not doing it for this album, 1563 01:17:14,297 --> 01:17:16,089 because I fucking worked my ass off." 1564 01:17:16,172 --> 01:17:18,422 And they're like, "Nope, you gotta do it." 1565 01:17:18,506 --> 01:17:19,547 I'm like, "I won't do it." 1566 01:17:19,631 --> 01:17:21,381 "You've gotta do it." "I won't do it." 1567 01:17:21,464 --> 01:17:23,506 And then, I just said, "Fuck you, I quit." 1568 01:17:23,589 --> 01:17:25,214 And that's when I quit the band. 1569 01:17:26,255 --> 01:17:28,881 But, of course, I couldn't leave the band yet 1570 01:17:28,964 --> 01:17:31,255 because we had a whole, huge tour planned 1571 01:17:31,339 --> 01:17:32,631 to support the new album. 1572 01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:34,923 She told us that she was, after the tour for 1573 01:17:35,005 --> 01:17:36,798 Talk Show she was going to leave. 1574 01:17:36,881 --> 01:17:40,422 [host] You guys have been together now for quite a while. 1575 01:17:40,506 --> 01:17:43,756 Do you still all just get along as friends? 1576 01:17:43,839 --> 01:17:45,631 Argh! 1577 01:17:45,714 --> 01:17:47,422 There would be a lot of questions 1578 01:17:47,506 --> 01:17:50,255 about what our relationship with each other was like. 1579 01:17:50,339 --> 01:17:53,214 "Oh, we love each other. We're like sisters." 1580 01:17:53,297 --> 01:17:56,589 Yeah, like sisters that fucking stab each other in the back. 1581 01:17:56,673 --> 01:17:59,923 [crowd cheering] 1582 01:18:02,756 --> 01:18:07,673 ♪♪♪ 1583 01:18:07,756 --> 01:18:09,798 It was a little toxic, shall we say. 1584 01:18:11,005 --> 01:18:13,089 ♪ But I know what you're doing ♪ 1585 01:18:13,172 --> 01:18:16,381 But the machine, Go-Go machine, had to keep going. 1586 01:18:16,464 --> 01:18:18,923 ♪ Falling to ruin ♪ 1587 01:18:19,005 --> 01:18:21,589 ♪ You got your walls so high ♪ 1588 01:18:21,673 --> 01:18:24,089 Things were really coming apart. 1589 01:18:24,172 --> 01:18:27,297 ♪ There may be some explanation ♪ 1590 01:18:27,381 --> 01:18:31,130 [Kathy] This band is everything to me. 1591 01:18:31,214 --> 01:18:36,255 My driving focus was to keep that shit together. 1592 01:18:36,339 --> 01:18:39,047 ♪ I just want to turn to you ♪ 1593 01:18:39,130 --> 01:18:41,214 -♪ Come on let me turn to you ♪ -♪ Turn to you ♪ 1594 01:18:41,297 --> 01:18:42,881 ♪ Turn to you ♪ 1595 01:18:42,964 --> 01:18:45,923 [Charlotte] There was a lot of crap going on, 1596 01:18:46,005 --> 01:18:50,673 and it felt like the dream of The Go-Go's was slipping away 1597 01:18:50,756 --> 01:18:54,464 and, of course, I more so felt like my life was slipping away. 1598 01:18:56,547 --> 01:18:58,923 ♪ It has a lot to do ♪ 1599 01:18:59,005 --> 01:19:00,839 [Jane] There were definitely times 1600 01:19:00,923 --> 01:19:04,673 when you really had to fake it to get through it. 1601 01:19:04,756 --> 01:19:07,881 We had this whole thing that we called robo Go-Go-ing, 1602 01:19:07,964 --> 01:19:10,589 where you would just get out there on stage 1603 01:19:10,673 --> 01:19:12,422 and no one would fucking know 1604 01:19:12,506 --> 01:19:14,964 that you had just had a screaming fight backstage. 1605 01:19:15,047 --> 01:19:18,339 You would just get out there and be like, robo Go-Go! 1606 01:19:18,422 --> 01:19:21,255 ♪ I want to turn to you ♪ 1607 01:19:21,339 --> 01:19:23,881 ♪ Come on, let me turn to you ♪ 1608 01:19:23,964 --> 01:19:25,964 ♪ Please let me turn to you ♪ 1609 01:19:26,047 --> 01:19:27,422 During the tour, 1610 01:19:27,506 --> 01:19:30,381 Jane announced that she was leaving, which I didn't believe. 1611 01:19:30,464 --> 01:19:34,381 And then, sure enough she did and it was really devastating. 1612 01:19:34,464 --> 01:19:36,589 [crowd cheering] 1613 01:19:36,673 --> 01:19:38,714 I felt completely betrayed. 1614 01:19:38,798 --> 01:19:40,422 I felt like... 1615 01:19:40,506 --> 01:19:44,005 she was breaking up something that was so precious. 1616 01:19:44,089 --> 01:19:46,214 We knew we were in trouble then, 1617 01:19:46,297 --> 01:19:49,089 because, I mean, she's an original member, 1618 01:19:49,172 --> 01:19:51,714 she's a key songwriter, and she's irreplaceable. 1619 01:19:51,798 --> 01:19:53,839 It was like a hatchet had come and just... 1620 01:19:53,923 --> 01:19:56,130 it was never going to be the same after that. 1621 01:19:56,214 --> 01:19:59,798 That was it, really, a piece of the puzzle was missing. 1622 01:20:02,089 --> 01:20:06,547 I felt like the rat that had, you know, left the sinking ship. 1623 01:20:08,047 --> 01:20:12,047 [Miles] The Go-Go's as a unit worked. 1624 01:20:12,130 --> 01:20:15,255 And you take out a piece, is the picture complete? 1625 01:20:16,631 --> 01:20:17,881 Maybe not. 1626 01:20:19,964 --> 01:20:23,589 [Kathy] I just thought this could be the end of everything. 1627 01:20:23,673 --> 01:20:27,464 All I was, I was a Go-Go, that was all. 1628 01:20:27,547 --> 01:20:31,589 That meant I could take care of my mom. 1629 01:20:31,673 --> 01:20:34,422 By this time, I'm supporting my mom. 1630 01:20:34,506 --> 01:20:36,631 It's easier to find a bass player 1631 01:20:36,714 --> 01:20:38,255 than it is a guitar player. 1632 01:20:38,339 --> 01:20:40,506 I'll play guitar, we'll get a bass player. 1633 01:20:40,589 --> 01:20:43,047 Hundreds of girls wanted to be in The Go-Go's. 1634 01:20:43,130 --> 01:20:44,714 Big surprise. 1635 01:20:46,047 --> 01:20:48,547 [Charlotte] I really wanted Paula Jean, 1636 01:20:48,631 --> 01:20:51,297 and the other girls weren't really agreeing with me, 1637 01:20:51,381 --> 01:20:53,214 but for some reason they acquiesced, 1638 01:20:53,297 --> 01:20:56,047 and Paula Jean became our bass player. 1639 01:20:57,297 --> 01:20:59,964 [Paula Jean] I felt like Dorothy walking into Oz, 1640 01:21:00,047 --> 01:21:02,589 because they were all so much shorter than me. 1641 01:21:02,673 --> 01:21:05,631 I knew before I auditioned that the band was having problems 1642 01:21:05,714 --> 01:21:07,005 because Jane quit the band, 1643 01:21:07,089 --> 01:21:09,464 and I had read enough and followed them enough 1644 01:21:09,547 --> 01:21:14,130 to know that things weren't going great interpersonally. 1645 01:21:15,214 --> 01:21:17,798 [Kathy] So, we started rehearsing with Paula Jean, 1646 01:21:17,881 --> 01:21:19,798 getting ready to go to Rio. 1647 01:21:19,881 --> 01:21:21,923 We're playing the biggest show of our life. 1648 01:21:22,005 --> 01:21:25,631 It's the Rock in Rio festival. 1649 01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:27,130 [man] Belinda! 1650 01:21:27,214 --> 01:21:30,005 What are your expectations towards the festival? 1651 01:21:30,089 --> 01:21:31,964 Should be a lot of fun. 1652 01:21:33,339 --> 01:21:36,673 [Paula Jean] I could tell that the joy of them playing together 1653 01:21:36,756 --> 01:21:39,506 was not what it probably once was. 1654 01:21:39,589 --> 01:21:43,881 It felt to me like they were all trying to muster it 1655 01:21:43,964 --> 01:21:46,089 for the occasion. 1656 01:21:46,923 --> 01:21:48,047 [Gina] In Rio, 1657 01:21:48,130 --> 01:21:50,339 this is the height of everybody's drug intake. 1658 01:21:50,422 --> 01:21:53,172 People driving around in cabs searching for coke all night. 1659 01:21:53,255 --> 01:21:56,089 [Belinda] I didn't sleep for, like, a week. 1660 01:21:58,339 --> 01:22:00,923 [Charlotte] I'm supposed to go to sound check 1661 01:22:01,005 --> 01:22:03,047 and I went out to cop some dope. 1662 01:22:03,130 --> 01:22:05,506 I was late, and I had to make up a big lie, 1663 01:22:05,589 --> 01:22:07,381 and that's another thing with drugs, 1664 01:22:07,464 --> 01:22:11,005 like, you become a big liar. 1665 01:22:11,089 --> 01:22:13,089 [Gina] Charlotte was so out of control 1666 01:22:13,172 --> 01:22:15,714 that Ozzy Osbourne threw her out of his dressing room. 1667 01:22:15,798 --> 01:22:17,297 Now that's pretty fucking bad. 1668 01:22:17,381 --> 01:22:20,005 ♪ Head over heels, where should I go ♪ 1669 01:22:20,089 --> 01:22:23,464 ♪ Can't stop myself, outta control ♪ 1670 01:22:23,547 --> 01:22:25,547 ♪ Head over heels, no time to think ♪ 1671 01:22:25,631 --> 01:22:28,839 ♪ Looks like the whole world's out of sync ♪ 1672 01:22:31,506 --> 01:22:33,381 [Paula Jean] The Go-Go's were a family, 1673 01:22:33,464 --> 01:22:35,464 and, you know, I think that Gina and Kathy 1674 01:22:35,547 --> 01:22:38,798 kind of had become the caretakers in a way, 1675 01:22:38,881 --> 01:22:40,714 trying to hold it together. 1676 01:22:43,881 --> 01:22:48,005 Charlotte was there, but you could tell just not there. 1677 01:22:50,381 --> 01:22:54,089 It was just getting to be where it was unsustainable. 1678 01:22:58,589 --> 01:23:00,130 [Kathy] Paula goes, 1679 01:23:00,214 --> 01:23:04,047 "You guys, Charlotte's really in trouble." 1680 01:23:04,130 --> 01:23:06,422 What? 1681 01:23:06,506 --> 01:23:07,923 New girl says what? 1682 01:23:08,005 --> 01:23:11,172 I said, "I just really feel like she's going to die." 1683 01:23:12,881 --> 01:23:15,422 [Charlotte] Paula came to me one day and said, you know, 1684 01:23:15,506 --> 01:23:18,923 "Charlotte, I know a place where you can go to get some help." 1685 01:23:19,005 --> 01:23:20,839 And I said, "What are you talking about?" 1686 01:23:20,923 --> 01:23:23,130 She told me about, you know, 1687 01:23:23,214 --> 01:23:28,089 a recovery hospital, you know, for addicts. 1688 01:23:29,172 --> 01:23:32,798 And then, something shifted in me. 1689 01:23:32,881 --> 01:23:34,422 I went back to Los Angeles 1690 01:23:34,506 --> 01:23:38,506 and I checked myself into rehab with Paula's help. 1691 01:23:38,589 --> 01:23:42,631 I'm not saying it was easy, but I was dedicated. 1692 01:23:42,714 --> 01:23:46,130 And I'm forever grateful to her for giving me that information, 1693 01:23:46,214 --> 01:23:50,255 because it totally changed my life and saved me. 1694 01:23:54,005 --> 01:23:56,673 When I got sober, it was so amazing 1695 01:23:56,756 --> 01:24:01,589 to be free of that prison that I was living in. 1696 01:24:02,464 --> 01:24:06,839 As dedicated as I was to my band, 1697 01:24:06,923 --> 01:24:09,839 I was dedicated to myself. 1698 01:24:09,923 --> 01:24:12,673 When we started rehearsing again for the fourth album, 1699 01:24:12,756 --> 01:24:16,172 I made the decision to choose myself over the band. 1700 01:24:16,255 --> 01:24:18,673 It just wasn't working, it wasn't going to work. 1701 01:24:18,756 --> 01:24:21,673 Paula was great, but she wasn't Jane. 1702 01:24:21,756 --> 01:24:24,839 The only decent song that came out of it was "Mad About You." 1703 01:24:24,923 --> 01:24:26,839 They really liked "Mad About You." 1704 01:24:26,923 --> 01:24:29,964 It's a song that Paula wrote for our band. 1705 01:24:30,047 --> 01:24:34,047 The relationships were just disintegrating in the band. 1706 01:24:34,130 --> 01:24:38,297 Charlotte and I discussed ending the band. 1707 01:24:41,089 --> 01:24:43,339 [Kathy] Gina and I are feeling more and more 1708 01:24:43,422 --> 01:24:45,881 like Charlotte and Belinda are on one side, 1709 01:24:45,964 --> 01:24:48,756 and me and Gina are on the other side. 1710 01:24:51,130 --> 01:24:53,506 [Gina] Her and Belinda called Kathy and myself 1711 01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:55,089 into management's office. 1712 01:24:55,172 --> 01:24:57,881 I was like, "This is not good." 1713 01:24:57,964 --> 01:24:59,297 It's not good. 1714 01:24:59,381 --> 01:25:02,714 Even now, I can't. Remembering this makes me feel ill. 1715 01:25:02,798 --> 01:25:05,047 "We've decided to break up the band," 1716 01:25:05,130 --> 01:25:06,631 that was the first thing. 1717 01:25:06,714 --> 01:25:08,714 And Gina and I said, "You can't. 1718 01:25:08,798 --> 01:25:11,547 You can't do that, it's our band too." 1719 01:25:11,631 --> 01:25:13,798 "Yes, we can." 1720 01:25:14,798 --> 01:25:16,964 Somebody said, 1721 01:25:17,047 --> 01:25:20,464 "She writes the hits and I am the voice." 1722 01:25:20,547 --> 01:25:23,297 "She's the voice and I write the hits." 1723 01:25:25,089 --> 01:25:28,381 And Kathy and I were fucking flabbergasted. 1724 01:25:28,464 --> 01:25:32,631 They completely freaked out, completely freaked out. 1725 01:25:32,714 --> 01:25:35,130 There was a lot of crying and screaming. 1726 01:25:35,214 --> 01:25:36,923 I definitely raged, 1727 01:25:37,005 --> 01:25:39,714 and then, I dialed back the rage 1728 01:25:39,798 --> 01:25:42,964 and groveled, apologizing. 1729 01:25:43,047 --> 01:25:46,589 I... I wanted to kill both of them. 1730 01:25:46,673 --> 01:25:48,589 I really did. 1731 01:25:48,673 --> 01:25:50,214 After all we'd been through, 1732 01:25:50,297 --> 01:25:52,923 how could you fucking dare say that to me? 1733 01:25:53,005 --> 01:25:56,130 I won't survive this if I stay here 1734 01:25:56,214 --> 01:25:59,089 and I cannot risk using and drinking again, 1735 01:25:59,172 --> 01:26:00,422 I cannot risk that. 1736 01:26:00,506 --> 01:26:04,297 What was horrible was like going home from that meeting 1737 01:26:04,381 --> 01:26:05,923 just shattered. 1738 01:26:06,005 --> 01:26:07,923 And then, the phone rings 1739 01:26:08,005 --> 01:26:11,547 and it's the guy from the management company 1740 01:26:11,631 --> 01:26:15,422 and my heart just, like, "Ah, they've changed their mind!" 1741 01:26:16,297 --> 01:26:17,756 And instead he goes, 1742 01:26:17,839 --> 01:26:20,214 "You're going to get a call from The L.A. Times 1743 01:26:20,297 --> 01:26:23,172 to make a comment about the band breaking up." 1744 01:26:23,255 --> 01:26:26,297 It's like, "What, are you fucking kidding me?" 1745 01:26:26,381 --> 01:26:28,964 You know, it's been an hour. 1746 01:26:32,422 --> 01:26:35,297 Within months of me leaving the band ended up breaking up, 1747 01:26:35,381 --> 01:26:37,589 and I certainly wasn't happy about it, 1748 01:26:37,673 --> 01:26:39,464 but I also wasn't surprised either. 1749 01:26:39,547 --> 01:26:41,798 [Charlotte] We didn't speak to each other 1750 01:26:41,881 --> 01:26:44,130 for five years after that. 1751 01:26:44,214 --> 01:26:47,130 Gina and Kathy, I didn't speak to. 1752 01:26:47,214 --> 01:26:49,798 Jane was off doing her solo record. 1753 01:26:49,881 --> 01:26:52,297 I felt the need to try something new. 1754 01:26:52,381 --> 01:26:55,714 I was also interested in singing my own material. 1755 01:27:04,839 --> 01:27:06,839 I was used to being a big star, 1756 01:27:06,923 --> 01:27:09,673 and all of a sudden it was like, "She sucks!" 1757 01:27:09,756 --> 01:27:12,673 I hated it so much and I was just so mad, 1758 01:27:12,756 --> 01:27:17,547 but now honestly, I really feel like the person I am today 1759 01:27:17,631 --> 01:27:21,130 would not exist without all the failure I went through, 1760 01:27:21,214 --> 01:27:25,673 and all the success I ever had never taught me one damn thing. 1761 01:27:25,756 --> 01:27:26,673 Never. 1762 01:27:28,422 --> 01:27:33,506 [Kathy] I tried so hard to create another band 1763 01:27:33,589 --> 01:27:38,381 with the chemistry and the magic that The Go-Go's had, 1764 01:27:38,464 --> 01:27:42,130 and nothing I did seemed to work out. 1765 01:27:42,214 --> 01:27:43,506 I tried being a singer. 1766 01:27:43,589 --> 01:27:45,589 I never wanted to be a singer, but I tried it. 1767 01:27:45,673 --> 01:27:47,172 I couldn't be a studio player 1768 01:27:47,255 --> 01:27:49,047 because I didn't know how to read music 1769 01:27:49,130 --> 01:27:50,506 and that wasn't my thing. 1770 01:27:50,589 --> 01:27:53,673 And so, I went out and tried to get a solo deal. 1771 01:27:53,756 --> 01:27:56,881 I did one show at the Roxy and got signed by Capitol Records, 1772 01:27:56,964 --> 01:27:59,214 which was great for a while. 1773 01:27:59,297 --> 01:28:01,005 [Jane] And then after a few years, 1774 01:28:01,089 --> 01:28:04,089 it was almost like The Go-Go's didn't even exist anymore. 1775 01:28:04,172 --> 01:28:06,381 It was only like, Belinda! 1776 01:28:06,464 --> 01:28:08,381 [Katie Couric] When The Go-Go's split up 1777 01:28:08,464 --> 01:28:10,464 I guess everybody went their separate ways, 1778 01:28:10,547 --> 01:28:13,047 but you're the only one who really hit it big. 1779 01:28:13,130 --> 01:28:14,839 Why do you think that's the case? 1780 01:28:14,923 --> 01:28:17,214 Well, I think I definitely had a head start 1781 01:28:17,297 --> 01:28:18,714 as being the focus of the band, 1782 01:28:18,798 --> 01:28:20,798 which, you know, people do tend to focus 1783 01:28:20,881 --> 01:28:22,798 on the lead singer of any band. 1784 01:28:22,881 --> 01:28:26,631 And, you know, that did give me some advantages. 1785 01:28:26,714 --> 01:28:28,714 [Charlotte] Belinda offered me a job. 1786 01:28:28,798 --> 01:28:32,089 She said, "Do you wanna tour with me and write on my record?" 1787 01:28:32,172 --> 01:28:33,506 I was so grateful to her, 1788 01:28:33,589 --> 01:28:36,255 because that was still at that place in my life 1789 01:28:36,339 --> 01:28:39,255 where that was my identity, doing that, 1790 01:28:39,339 --> 01:28:43,297 and just beginning to find out that that wasn't who-- 1791 01:28:43,381 --> 01:28:46,297 that wasn't the totality of who I am. 1792 01:28:46,381 --> 01:28:49,673 So, she gave me that bridge. 1793 01:28:50,964 --> 01:28:52,381 [Kathy] As they went on, 1794 01:28:52,464 --> 01:28:54,547 Charlotte was working with Belinda. 1795 01:28:54,631 --> 01:28:56,339 Jane is back in the fold. 1796 01:28:56,422 --> 01:28:57,839 Now, all of a sudden, it's like, 1797 01:28:57,923 --> 01:28:59,964 the three of them are doing shit for Belinda. 1798 01:29:00,047 --> 01:29:03,923 I started feeling like it was a vendetta against me and Gina. 1799 01:29:04,005 --> 01:29:08,047 It was... it was horrible. 1800 01:29:10,089 --> 01:29:12,381 I just wanted to write and play drums. 1801 01:29:12,464 --> 01:29:14,964 I've written stuff for other people. 1802 01:29:15,047 --> 01:29:17,297 I had a song covered by Miley Cyrus, 1803 01:29:17,381 --> 01:29:19,464 and then four songs by Selena Gomez, 1804 01:29:19,547 --> 01:29:22,673 so I felt like, "Yeah, finally getting what I deserve." 1805 01:29:22,756 --> 01:29:24,297 [laughing] 1806 01:29:24,381 --> 01:29:26,464 I've always known I had a book in me... 1807 01:29:26,547 --> 01:29:27,631 When I turned 40, 1808 01:29:27,714 --> 01:29:30,506 I was dropped by my record company as a solo artist, 1809 01:29:30,589 --> 01:29:33,297 and that was actually the beginning of, like, 1810 01:29:33,381 --> 01:29:35,631 soul searching and what is this all about? 1811 01:29:35,714 --> 01:29:37,339 What were The Go-Go's all about? 1812 01:29:37,422 --> 01:29:38,839 Who am I? 1813 01:29:38,923 --> 01:29:42,923 With sobriety, my world is vast and bigger than it's ever been. 1814 01:29:43,005 --> 01:29:47,339 I think for me, there are a lot of ego issues, to be honest, 1815 01:29:47,422 --> 01:29:51,089 a lot of slapping down I've needed, 1816 01:29:51,172 --> 01:29:54,673 and a lot of... I needed a lot of humbling. 1817 01:29:54,756 --> 01:29:58,673 It's five people in this band, 1818 01:29:58,756 --> 01:30:03,172 and everybody was set on their own sort of course... 1819 01:30:04,214 --> 01:30:07,047 But then we got back together. [laughing] 1820 01:30:07,130 --> 01:30:08,881 Because the story never ends! 1821 01:30:08,964 --> 01:30:10,589 The story never ends. 1822 01:30:10,673 --> 01:30:15,297 [crowd cheering loudly] 1823 01:30:15,381 --> 01:30:18,172 Thank you for coming out tonight. 1824 01:30:18,255 --> 01:30:20,130 [playing "We Got the Beat"] 1825 01:30:20,214 --> 01:30:24,047 ♪♪♪ 1826 01:30:24,130 --> 01:30:26,923 ♪ See the people walking down the street ♪ 1827 01:30:27,005 --> 01:30:31,881 [Kathy] As angry as I was when they broke up the band, 1828 01:30:31,964 --> 01:30:33,673 I missed them. 1829 01:30:33,756 --> 01:30:37,714 Nobody really knows what that felt like to be in The Go-Go's, 1830 01:30:37,798 --> 01:30:41,923 only four other people know what that feels like. 1831 01:30:42,005 --> 01:30:43,214 And that's the bond. 1832 01:30:43,297 --> 01:30:48,381 Nothing has happened so bad that it overshadows that. 1833 01:30:51,297 --> 01:30:53,089 I don't know how this keeps going, 1834 01:30:53,172 --> 01:30:54,464 I swear to Christ, I don't. 1835 01:30:54,547 --> 01:30:56,714 [man] The Go-Go's day in Hollywood! 1836 01:30:56,798 --> 01:30:59,714 [crowd cheering] 1837 01:31:03,130 --> 01:31:04,714 We are making Go-Go's history 1838 01:31:04,798 --> 01:31:07,881 with our debut as Broadway songwriters. 1839 01:31:08,714 --> 01:31:10,756 [Gina] You get older and you get wiser, 1840 01:31:10,839 --> 01:31:13,381 and you drop a lot of the bullshit. 1841 01:31:13,464 --> 01:31:16,214 We are a family, that's just what it is. 1842 01:31:16,297 --> 01:31:17,589 ♪ We got the beat ♪ 1843 01:31:17,673 --> 01:31:19,756 ♪ Everybody get on your feet ♪ 1844 01:31:19,839 --> 01:31:21,589 [out of sync] ♪ We know you can... ♪ 1845 01:31:21,673 --> 01:31:23,923 -[laughing] -Can you drum? 1846 01:31:24,005 --> 01:31:25,547 [Jane] Gina needs coffee. 1847 01:31:25,631 --> 01:31:27,089 ♪ We used to have the beat ♪ 1848 01:31:27,172 --> 01:31:28,714 ♪ We had the beat ♪ 1849 01:31:28,798 --> 01:31:31,214 I remember when we had the beat! We got it back. 1850 01:31:31,297 --> 01:31:34,172 ♪ Everybody, we got the beat ♪ 1851 01:31:34,255 --> 01:31:36,464 ♪ We got the, we got the beat ♪ 1852 01:31:36,547 --> 01:31:38,172 [Kathy] That was fantastic. 1853 01:31:38,255 --> 01:31:39,839 That was amazing. 1854 01:31:39,923 --> 01:31:43,464 Oh, my God, do we have the motherfucking beat. 1855 01:31:43,547 --> 01:31:44,839 I love that. 1856 01:31:44,923 --> 01:31:48,005 That wasn't bad for not playing together a really long time. 1857 01:31:48,089 --> 01:31:50,047 [playing guitar] 1858 01:31:50,130 --> 01:31:51,798 Hey, it doesn't hurt to rehearse, 1859 01:31:51,881 --> 01:31:53,964 it only makes you tighter. 1860 01:31:54,047 --> 01:31:56,047 [Belinda] I think that The Go-Go's, 1861 01:31:56,130 --> 01:31:57,464 if you believe in karma, 1862 01:31:57,547 --> 01:32:00,798 there's a lot of karmic ties in this band. 1863 01:32:00,881 --> 01:32:03,381 Just the fact that we've been in each other's lives 1864 01:32:03,464 --> 01:32:06,172 for so many years, it has to be to work out something. 1865 01:32:06,255 --> 01:32:09,381 ♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪ 1866 01:32:09,464 --> 01:32:13,589 ♪ They may have control but we're not scared ♪ 1867 01:32:15,214 --> 01:32:16,923 ♪ Zero fucks given ♪ 1868 01:32:17,005 --> 01:32:18,297 Oops. 1869 01:32:18,381 --> 01:32:21,547 About a year ago, I went to a psychiatrist 1870 01:32:21,631 --> 01:32:24,589 who diagnosed me as being bipolar. 1871 01:32:24,673 --> 01:32:27,339 ♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪ 1872 01:32:27,422 --> 01:32:29,422 For the first time in my life 1873 01:32:29,506 --> 01:32:32,631 I haven't thought of suicide in a year, 1874 01:32:32,714 --> 01:32:34,923 which is like fucking mind-blowing to me. 1875 01:32:35,005 --> 01:32:37,464 Do you want to decide which key you like better? 1876 01:32:37,547 --> 01:32:38,839 -Yeah, that'd be good. -Okay. 1877 01:32:38,923 --> 01:32:41,631 And luckily, The Go-Go's have finally gotten to the point 1878 01:32:41,714 --> 01:32:44,673 where we actually can be civil to each other and get along. 1879 01:32:44,756 --> 01:32:47,130 I can see the good in everyone in the band. 1880 01:32:47,214 --> 01:32:51,005 [playing guitar] 1881 01:32:51,089 --> 01:32:55,089 ♪ There's a place for us, don't look for a sign ♪ 1882 01:32:55,172 --> 01:32:57,339 ♪ Not on a map ♪ 1883 01:32:57,422 --> 01:32:59,631 ♪ It's a state of mind ♪ 1884 01:33:01,089 --> 01:33:03,172 ♪ This is club zero ♪ 1885 01:33:03,255 --> 01:33:05,255 Okay, so, verse or chorus? 1886 01:33:05,339 --> 01:33:07,923 We talked about things we wanted to write about 1887 01:33:08,005 --> 01:33:10,964 and we did kind of make a conscious decision 1888 01:33:11,047 --> 01:33:13,673 to try to write about, you know, 1889 01:33:13,756 --> 01:33:16,381 the place of women and our future roles. 1890 01:33:16,464 --> 01:33:20,297 It's kind of a testament to our longevity and our bond. 1891 01:33:20,381 --> 01:33:22,464 -Tenacity. -And how we can work together. 1892 01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:25,130 That we've been able to withstand it, I think... 1893 01:33:25,214 --> 01:33:26,005 [laughing] 1894 01:33:26,089 --> 01:33:27,422 [Charlotte] It was hard! 1895 01:33:27,506 --> 01:33:29,798 We've been able to live through it! 1896 01:33:29,881 --> 01:33:30,964 [laughing] 1897 01:33:31,047 --> 01:33:32,631 What were you saying, Gina? 1898 01:33:32,714 --> 01:33:34,297 Wait a minute! 1899 01:33:34,381 --> 01:33:36,089 [Kathy] Okay, are we ready to go loud? 1900 01:33:36,172 --> 01:33:38,547 -[Gina] Yeah, man. -[Jane] You wanna go loud? 1901 01:33:38,631 --> 01:33:40,381 [Gina] One, two, a-one, two... 1902 01:33:40,464 --> 01:33:43,506 ♪♪♪ 1903 01:33:46,422 --> 01:33:50,130 ♪ There's a place for us, don't look for a sign ♪ 1904 01:33:50,214 --> 01:33:51,714 ♪ Not on a map ♪ 1905 01:33:51,798 --> 01:33:54,172 ♪ It's a state of mind ♪ 1906 01:33:55,297 --> 01:33:57,381 ♪ This is club zero ♪ 1907 01:33:59,714 --> 01:34:02,547 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1908 01:34:02,631 --> 01:34:05,756 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1909 01:34:05,839 --> 01:34:09,923 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say... ♪ 1910 01:34:10,005 --> 01:34:13,714 [Charlotte] There was this power that we all felt, 1911 01:34:13,798 --> 01:34:17,839 of us together doing what we're doing. 1912 01:34:17,923 --> 01:34:21,297 We showed up as who we were 1913 01:34:21,381 --> 01:34:24,255 and just, against all odds, 1914 01:34:24,339 --> 01:34:26,881 busted through some ceilings. 1915 01:34:39,547 --> 01:34:41,214 I don't know what more they have to do 1916 01:34:41,297 --> 01:34:43,130 to get in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. 1917 01:34:43,214 --> 01:34:46,589 What the fuck? They're not? 1918 01:34:46,673 --> 01:34:49,422 Come on! Come on! 1919 01:34:49,506 --> 01:34:51,631 They're in my Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. 1920 01:34:51,714 --> 01:34:56,881 ♪♪♪ 1921 01:34:58,673 --> 01:35:02,005 ♪ There's a place for us, don't look for a sign ♪ 1922 01:35:02,089 --> 01:35:03,964 ♪ Not on a map ♪ 1923 01:35:04,047 --> 01:35:06,547 ♪ It's a state of mind ♪ 1924 01:35:07,547 --> 01:35:09,756 ♪ This is club zero ♪ 1925 01:35:11,631 --> 01:35:14,798 ♪ Time's up, it's the clarion call ♪ 1926 01:35:14,881 --> 01:35:19,422 ♪ 'Cause zero hour is upon us all ♪ 1927 01:35:19,506 --> 01:35:21,798 ♪ Tik-tok, tik-tok ♪ 1928 01:35:24,005 --> 01:35:27,297 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1929 01:35:27,381 --> 01:35:30,631 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1930 01:35:30,714 --> 01:35:35,297 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say ♪ 1931 01:35:35,381 --> 01:35:37,506 ♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪ 1932 01:35:37,589 --> 01:35:40,005 ♪ Ready or not, here we are ♪ 1933 01:35:40,089 --> 01:35:43,130 ♪ Better get out of our way ♪ 1934 01:35:43,214 --> 01:35:46,422 ♪ Looking for heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1935 01:35:46,506 --> 01:35:48,506 [laughing] 1936 01:35:48,589 --> 01:35:50,756 -I love it. -[Gina] We did blow in our bras. 1937 01:35:50,839 --> 01:35:52,422 That day we did blow and gave birth. 1938 01:35:52,506 --> 01:35:54,381 [Jane] Yeah, it was time to have babies. 1939 01:35:54,464 --> 01:35:55,673 Which one is that? 1940 01:35:55,756 --> 01:35:56,923 She's having her baby. 1941 01:35:57,005 --> 01:35:58,631 [Jane] Why am I always the baby? 1942 01:35:58,714 --> 01:36:00,047 [Kathy] You were always the baby 1943 01:36:00,130 --> 01:36:03,506 'cause you were the only one that could fit between our legs. 1944 01:36:04,422 --> 01:36:07,381 ♪ Fair's fair, don't care ♪ 1945 01:36:07,464 --> 01:36:11,297 ♪ They may have control but we're not scared ♪ 1946 01:36:12,631 --> 01:36:14,964 ♪ Zero fucks given ♪ 1947 01:36:17,089 --> 01:36:20,130 ♪ Wake up, can't you see ♪ 1948 01:36:20,214 --> 01:36:24,172 ♪ Heads up, we're the new MVPs ♪ 1949 01:36:24,255 --> 01:36:27,047 ♪ Of the twenty-first century ♪ 1950 01:36:28,881 --> 01:36:32,464 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1951 01:36:32,547 --> 01:36:35,714 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1952 01:36:35,798 --> 01:36:40,381 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say ♪ 1953 01:36:40,464 --> 01:36:42,214 ♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪ 1954 01:36:42,297 --> 01:36:44,756 ♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪ 1955 01:36:44,839 --> 01:36:48,339 ♪ You better get out of our way ♪ 1956 01:36:48,422 --> 01:36:51,589 ♪ We won't stop until we're done ♪ 1957 01:36:51,673 --> 01:36:55,047 ♪ Better get out of our way ♪ 1958 01:36:55,130 --> 01:36:59,923 ♪ Walking like heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1959 01:37:01,255 --> 01:37:06,506 ♪♪♪ 1960 01:37:18,339 --> 01:37:21,422 ♪ The rules they made are battle lines ♪ 1961 01:37:21,506 --> 01:37:24,964 ♪ The grand design is out of time ♪ 1962 01:37:25,047 --> 01:37:29,631 ♪ Hey, we've got something to say ♪ 1963 01:37:29,714 --> 01:37:31,422 ♪ Gonna make the world shake ♪ 1964 01:37:31,506 --> 01:37:34,297 ♪ Ready or not, here we come ♪ 1965 01:37:34,381 --> 01:37:37,714 ♪ You better get out of our way ♪ 1966 01:37:37,798 --> 01:37:40,798 ♪ We won't stop until we're done ♪ 1967 01:37:40,881 --> 01:37:43,881 ♪ Better get out of our way ♪ 1968 01:37:43,964 --> 01:37:47,172 ♪ Looking for heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1969 01:37:47,255 --> 01:37:52,422 ♪ Walking like heroes, we are club zero ♪ 1970 01:37:53,547 --> 01:37:54,923 ♪ Oh ♪ 1971 01:37:56,381 --> 01:37:58,381 ♪ Oh ♪ 1972 01:37:59,381 --> 01:38:00,964 ♪h 1973 01:38:02,172 --> 01:38:03,214 ♪h 148116

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