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you
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until the current period our until alas
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to the years it was conventional wisdom
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both in science and theology were alone
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in the universe the whole single
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repository of life anywhere in the known
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universe well no one believes that in
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1961 astronomer and astrophysicist dr.
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Frank Drake devised the Drake Equation
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which calculates the number of worlds
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with intelligent life capable of
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technologically communicating with us
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according to Drake's own calculations
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there are 10,000 communicative
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civilizations in the Milky Way galaxy
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for decades later the Drake Equation has
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been greatly expanded on by dr. Emir
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Excel best-selling author and associate
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professor of mathematics and statistics
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at Bentley College Massachusetts his
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latest book probability one deals with
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why there must be intelligent life in
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the universe my calculation of
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probability 1 goes far beyond what was
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explored with Drake's equation Drake's
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equation refers only to our galaxy my
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calculation goes to the visible universe
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as a whole which has billions of
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galaxies and each containing billions of
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stars
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so if you multiply all these numbers you
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get tremendous odds for the existence of
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life I think one of the main changes
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that has taken place in recent years in
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astronomers views of whether or not
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there might be other civilizations also
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in the universe has to do with the fact
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that we've discovered dozens of other
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planetary systems around other stars now
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in most cases the planets are giant
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planets like Jupiter not the kind that
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would Harbor life but where there are
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those kinds of planets are likely to be
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other planets too in those solar systems
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and so we're optimistic these days about
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life elsewhere
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what's the nature of the universe we
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live in what is our relationship to the
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larger reality I looked it up and all of
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a sudden there was this you know gotta
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say it
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flying saucer
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[Applause]
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didn't even make a sound not even assume
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it was gone nothing there's nothing to
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hide it all that was a part of the
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United States Air Force cover-up for 18
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years there's no way in the military
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with any government keeping track of
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something that is classified
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it'll they've clearly had a shape tool
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and in a big shape this should be the
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subject of rigorous scientific
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investigation and not the subject of
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rubbishing by tabloid newspapers I am
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here to discuss the so-called flying
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saucers air force interest in this
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problem has been due to our feeling of
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an obligation to identify and analyze to
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the best of our ability anything in the
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air that may have the possibility of
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threat or menace to the United States in
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pursuit of this obligation since 1947 we
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have received and analyzed between one
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and two thousand reports there have been
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a certain percentage of this volume of
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reports that have been made by credible
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observers of relatively incredible
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things it is this group of observations
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that we now are attempting to resolve
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for the last 50 years 95% of all UFO
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incidents have been explained in
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down-to-earth conventional terms these
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explanations include misidentified
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aircraft weather balloons atmospheric
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phenomenon light aberrations mass
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hallucinations hoaxes and swamp gas
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however these explanations cannot be
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applied to the remaining 5% the
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cumulative evidence in these cases leads
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towards a possible conclusion that some
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UFOs are not of Earth origin in this
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documentary we will present unexplained
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cases from around the world investigate
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50 years of official contradictions and
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denials and put forth possible reasons
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for secrecy we will examine scientific
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theories on interstellar travel and
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discuss the current movement for
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official disclosure on a subject that
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has primarily been considered unworthy
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of serious investigation
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the case of the Phoenix lights began on
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an evening in March of 1997
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late-breaking you're watching news 15 at
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10 dude these lights belong to visitors
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from outer space hundreds of people
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across the valley think it's a distinct
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possibility good evening I'm mark Vail
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and I'm Robin Sewell thanks for joining
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us we start tonight with those strange
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dots of light that were the talk of the
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town as reported multiple UFOs were
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sighted throughout the Phoenix basin
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numerous eyewitnesses were already
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outside looking up into the night sky to
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catch a glimpse of the hale-bopp comet
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yeah everybody was excited about the
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comet but in the middle of that these
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very mysterious lights appeared over
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Phoenix over Maricopa County Michael
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Tanner is part of a team of
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investigators who received roughly eight
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hundred reports from eyewitnesses
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regarding the Phoenix incident between
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8:15 and 8:45 we had enormous craft the
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varying altitudes come right through the
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center of the Valley of Phoenix led by a
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formation of orbs that were clearly
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visible through most of the state it
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passed right in front of us just about
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right above eyes length
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my estimate of the size of the craft
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from the noses it passed us where we
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lived to the end of the left-wing that
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passed in front of us was over 5,000
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foot long it's coming across the sky and
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as it's moving it's blocking and
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unblocking the Stars there's actually a
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shape it was actually five lights that
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were a V one in front two and two on
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each side and it was perfect it was a
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perfect triangle the object we saw if we
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opened up a newspaper you could not
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block out the object that we saw people
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say Mike no you saw a b-2 bomber my
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response was we could land all 40 of our
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b-2 bombers on the wing of that craft if
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you can picture a Camelback Mountain a
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well-known landmark in Phoenix something
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about four times that size levitating
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down Troad with lights on it they gave
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me an idea of what this was like yes I
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would I said that's all it's been on the
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news all night long is this this craft
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the community got pretty excited about
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it it was a lot of a lot of press and
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borderline hysteria almost explanations
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have been tossed about that they were
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flares that there were planes flying in
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formation but Marc and Robin we check
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with the FAA today we checked with Sky
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Harbor we checked Luke Air Force Base
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and there's been no official explanation
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of those strange bright flights last
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night
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truck driver bill Greiner was driving
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south on i-17 towards Luke Air Force
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Base he witnessed several fighter jets
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scrambled to intercept two UFOs directly
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overhead I pulled my truck alongside the
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West silos which faces Luke Air Force's
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face it was like right there and I was
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here unloading everything was completely
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quiet there's like really eerie there
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was one right over the base and then
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there was another one on toward
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Wickenburg and these things were just
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hovering they were a huge Forbes but it
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didn't it didn't make no sound or
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nothing it was just hovering right right
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there over the base
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all sudden I hear a lot of rorn coming
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out of a Luke Air Force Base in here
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there's two fighters coming on they had
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the afterburners on because every huge
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flames coming out the back of these
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things ripped right around the back of
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me and shot right for those things then
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the disappeared Ottoman military says
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the lights over Arizona last night were
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flares but the people who saw the lights
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last night say they couldn't have been
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flares in central Phoenix in what is
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known as the sunny slope area the lay
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family were coming home in the early
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evening to watch for the hale-bopp comet
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when they witnessed a very large craft
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fly directly over their house when the
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craft went over I had really focused on
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the light the tip was right out in the
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street and the arm is going by and the
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end of the arm was at least to that
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mountain over there it was six seven
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hundred feet away with these huge lights
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set inside of it
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and I look inside and it's like it's
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wavy when you when you look down the
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street on a hot day in Phoenix above the
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streets like it's really wavy and you
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see everything kind of distorted I asked
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what it looks like up inside the middle
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of the craft and it just skimmed by
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didn't even make a sound not even a
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sound further eyewitness testimony came
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from Stacey Rhodes and her daughter
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Emily who both saw a giant craft fly
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over their car
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it was gunmetal black it wasn't shiny it
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wasn't invisible it was more of a dull
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bluish black color any of us just stayed
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there and looked at it for a couple
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minutes and it was completely silent
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mic Fortson spotted the same craft from
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his backyard in Chandler a suburb of
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Phoenix when you're looking to the north
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towards Phoenix proper the the lights of
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the City of Phoenix and Tempe and
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Scottsdale and all these here will form
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a gray background and this is a black
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object coming through a grey background
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we had no problem was whoever seen this
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vehicle we knew it wasn't really ours
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because it was just too doggone big
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matter of fact profoundly massive is a
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better way to describe it we don't
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really have words in our language to
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describe something that large it was
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huge
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Councilwoman Frances Barwood was
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approached by a reporter who complained
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about the lack of response from local
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government regarding the sightings what
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this reporter said was that they had
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gone to every level of government
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including the City of Phoenix and nobody
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would talk to them that this object went
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from north of Prescott who called in all
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the way down to Tucson and then was also
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seen in Wickenburg and nobody would give
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them any answer they either told them
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that they were not going to talk about
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it at all or that there was nothing that
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nothing happened responding to mounting
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pressure from his constituents governor
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Fife Symington held a press conference
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oh I'm gonna order a full you know
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investigation of this through DPS we're
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gonna make all the necessary inquiries
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and we're gonna get to the bottom of
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we're gonna find out if it was a UFO
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later that day governor Symington held
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an unscheduled live press conference to
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announce that they had discovered the
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source behind the Phoenix lights now
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I'll ask officer Stein and his
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colleagues to escort the accused into
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the room so that we may all look upon
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the guilty party
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this just goes to show that you guys are
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entirely too serious laughed at it I
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thought it was really disgusting
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he was just dismissing everything that
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these people had seen and said just like
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we're all Looney Tunes I just thought
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that was a really improper attitude for
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somebody in his position nobody in state
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local federal military nobody wanted to
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talk about it they didn't want to
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interview witnesses they said it didn't
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happen they said it didn't concern them
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there was one Councilwoman Frances
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Barwood she's the one that spoke up and
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said why don't we investigate and then
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when it came time for her election she
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lost and and the depressed the media
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everybody else was really trashing her
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bag why is everybody so afraid and the
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only thing I can think of is one they're
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afraid of their careers which you know
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comes to a point of what's more
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important your soul your job and I guess
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to them it's their job and the second
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thing is the scoring factor
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in 2006 we caught up with Governor Fife
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Symington to find out what really
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happened and whether he believed the
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military's explanation that the Phoenix
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lights were just flares I was never
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satisfied with the explanation that they
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were high altitude flares it didn't look
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like that it they were - it was all too
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symmetrical I mean it clearly had a
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shape to it and it in a big shape and
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and it was a constant shape and you you
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can't control flares that way there's
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just no way they were flares we also
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asked him what he wanted to accomplish
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with his alien stunts at the press
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conference the hysteria that was
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building with Frances Barwood on the
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city council and and some others that I
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thought it was just you know they were
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just getting to you know overboard about
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it I mean it was unbelievable - hysteria
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that was building and I just felt that
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there was a need for some levity and we
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were known once in a while to pull a
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prank and I dressed my chief of staff up
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as a Martian we let him in in this
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Martian costume in handcuffs with the
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Department of Public Safety police
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officers and and it was just hilarious
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and it was just a total meltdown at the
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press conference it was a spoof and now
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I'll ask officer Stein and his
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colleagues to escort the accused into
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the room so that we may all look upon
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the guilty party don't get him too close
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to me please we confronted him with a
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tape recording from one of his many
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constituents who failed to find the
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humor in this staged event it's been a
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long time since I've been put on the
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spot on TV it's a good question and and
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of course as I said earlier I never felt
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that the overall situation was a matter
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of ridicule we certainly took advantage
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of it
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just goes to show that you guys are
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entirely too serious yeah you know if I
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had to do it all over again I probably
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would have handled it differently but at
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least I have the opportunity now to
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correct the record and that's important
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in correcting the record he told us what
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he would say now I would say that at
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that time in over Phoenix we all
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experienced a very exciting sighting of
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some kind of a craft of unknown origin
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nobody's ever been able to explain it
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and that it was most of us feel that it
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was definitely a you know alien origin
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enormous inexplicable probably one of
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the major sightings and you know in
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modern history in the country because a
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lot of people saw I didn't know nobody
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and I saw it too and we never got to the
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bottom of it we never found out what you
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know what they were the US military's
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involvement in the UFO subject dates
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back to World War two it began with the
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sighting by Air Force pilots of
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mysterious luminous orbs called Foo
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Fighters which would pace aircraft
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during missions and then died away they
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fly circles around anything we've got
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flying a strange behavior includes the
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ability to both hover and move at
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extremely high velocity to make
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right-angled turns at high speed to go
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straight up straight down all of this
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typically without any noise without any
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visible external lines and lovely wings
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without any tail we simply could not do
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that back 50 years ago
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in the summer of 1947 numerous UFOs were
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spotted by local authorities airline
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pilots and civilians worldwide by July
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these sightings made headlines and
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newspapers all across the United States
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culminating on the 8th of July with the
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alleged recovery of a crashed disc on a
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ranch near Roswell New Mexico the
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military were quick to respond
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they send agents out all over this area
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here to try to get information on
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Roswell
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and yet we stood back like fools and
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said that didn't exist whose loyola
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blown 50 years after the incident
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colonel Philip J Corso formerly a member
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of the National Security Council
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revealed that the weather balloons over
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Roswell was a cover story for the crash
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of an alien craft we had to cover to
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protect our own installation because
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they have dusters Cookson destroy the
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organization ya understand what was
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going on in the government and the kind
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of opinion law so discretion better part
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of Allen we just kept it to ourselves
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only some certain people know about it
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hit the head bring the brain no paper
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trail although the official position
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claimed that UFOs didn't exist
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this secret memorandum written by
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General Nathan twining suggests
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otherwise
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the consensus expressed by the air
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material command was that the phenomenon
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reported is something real and not
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visionary or fictitious the memo
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continues there are objects probably
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approximating the shape of a disc of
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such appreciable size as to appear to be
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as large as a man-made aircraft
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in this chaotic climate and in an effort
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to reorganize the US military
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President Truman passed the National
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Security Act this act built the
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framework for America's modern national
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security structure among other things
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the Act established the National
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Security Council and the CIA the
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National Security Act of 1947 allowed
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for the creation of a state within a
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state author of UFOs and the national
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security state Richard Dolan asserts
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that the signing of the National
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Security Act created an intelligence
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infrastructure capable of maintaining a
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very high level of secrecy one with an
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enormous amount of power an enormous
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amount of wealth an enormous amount of
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secrecy and latitude of action the level
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of secrecy imposed by the US government
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on the UFO issue is revealed in this
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top-secret memorandum it was written in
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1950 by electronics engineer Wilbert
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Smith a high-ranking official in the
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Canadian Department of transport
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after a meeting with a top government
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scientist employed by the Pentagon Smith
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was informed that flying saucers exists
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and more significantly the matter is the
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most highly classified subject in the
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United States government rating higher
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even than the h-bomb
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in my opinion I think they were worried
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that they would panic the public if they
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knew that someone had vehicles that had
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this kind of performance way back right
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after World War two on a clear night in
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February of 1951 lieutenant Graham
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Bethune sat at the controls of a US Navy
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transport plane enroute from Iceland to
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America
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the flight was routine and tilled the
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fumes spotted a strange group of lights
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below his aircraft and we were ten
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thousand feet this was about 15 miles
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away it came up to us like that just
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about that fast and of course I
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disengaged the autopilot to put the nose
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over it I thought we'd be able to go
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under this thing and not collide with it
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and when I did that staring me in the
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face and you couldn't see anything out
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the cockpit we could tell it was a
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monster about 300 feet in diameter as it
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drifted out to our right we could see
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the dome according to lieutenant Bethune
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the object remained in this position for
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about a minute it then accelerated
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rapidly and disappeared above the
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horizon
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upon landing at an airbase in
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Newfoundland
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he was debriefed and interrogated by
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several officers from Naval Intelligence
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at the conclusion he was ordered to
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never speak about this incident again
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you accept anything like that simply
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because you're in the military and
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that's your job is to defend the country
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and whatever they tell you to do you do
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the identity of the group responsible
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for imposing the secrecy around the UFO
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issue was revealed to lieutenant Bethune
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several months later in a conversation
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with an officer from Naval Intelligence
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and Isaac in the course is what happens
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to this report where does it go he said
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it goes to Navy intelligence chief naval
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operation then it goes to a Joint
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Intelligence Committee and of course
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later on I learned that was ma GIC which
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is majority agented Joint Intelligence
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no he said there's a small committee but
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this committee determined what it would
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affect our national security that if it
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did it would probably never go anywhere
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else one of the main arguments used to
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deny the possibility of interstellar
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travel is the question of distance
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the closest star Alpha Centauri is 4.2
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light-years away
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if astronauts travel to this star at the
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speed they reached the moon it would
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take them roughly 100,000 years another
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major obstacle and obtaining
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interstellar travel would be the amount
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of fuel required when you're driving a
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car the amount of propellant you have to
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carry in your fuel tank is very small
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just a few percent of the weight of the
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car when you're trying to carry enough
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propellant to take a rocket ship vast
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distances even in our solar system
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pretty soon you find yourself carrying a
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propellant just to propel the propellant
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this problem skyrockets to infinity so
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we'd want to go to propulsion systems
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that have very very high exhaust
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velocities and with a chemical reaction
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essentially a barely contained explosion
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into chemical rocket you have a limit to
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that and that limit is currently almost
539
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met by the shuttle engines we can't go
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beyond it very well and so we have to go
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to some other kind of propulsive source
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[Music]
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even if we could develop a radical form
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of propulsion capable of obtaining near
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light speed
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Einstein's theory of relativity tells us
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that we would encounter another enormous
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problem there's a law of relativity that
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says that the closer you try to
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accelerate something like a rocket to
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the speed of light the more massive it
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becomes and so it becomes infinitely
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massive at the speed of light which
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makes it impossible to get there new way
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of thinking about the universe physics
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professor Rhodes scholar and author of
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the national bestseller the elegant
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universe dr. Brian Green has been
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researching relativity and quantum
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00:26:24,179 --> 00:26:27,419
physics for several decades dr. green
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brings up another problem with traveling
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near the speed of light
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if astronauts one day go to the moon and
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beyond in ships that travel at a
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substantial fraction of the speed of
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light when they return to earth
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relativity really tells us they will
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have be in for a shock
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because while they may have thought a
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few months went by they'll get back to
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earth and they'll see that years and
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years hundreds perhaps thousands of
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years will have gone by this is not
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science fiction
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this is science fact so the idea of
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travelling between soul between stellar
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systems in normal space I don't believe
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is possible we're gonna have to invoke
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jump gates from Babylon 5 warp drives
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from Star Trek and of course in 100
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years who knows what might develop
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although at present the solution to
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interstellar travel may sound like
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science fiction a growing number of
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scientists are exploring radical new
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theories that may circumvent these
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obstacles we're beginning to discover in
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theoretical physics that maybe our
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entire universe is just a subset of a
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much greater universe a
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multi-dimensional universe that's being
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investigated in modern superstring and M
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brain theory in the context of those
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theories there may be new possibilities
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too so to speak step outside of
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space-time move somewhere else and come
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back into our universe at some distant
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location Einstein
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teaches us that the fabric of space can
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respond to its environment it can warp
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and curve and in fact the equations of
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general relativity allowed the fabric of
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space to have severe bends so long as
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you distribute matter and energy in the
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appropriate way you can bend space
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fairly significantly so in principle
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it's possible that if you want to go
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from one end of the universe to another
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you don't have to travel all along the
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fabric of space maybe you can bend the
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fabric of space and then travel from
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here to here very short journey by a
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shortcut or wormhole continuing research
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into the possibilities of interstellar
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travel are currently being conducted by
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NASA's breakthrough propulsion team
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headed by Marc Millis what we're trying
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to do is break it down into the smaller
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steps to attack the critical make break
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issues of some of the things we need to
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find out can you propel a vehicle
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without propellant can you conserve
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momentum in the process the issues of
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faster-than-light travel the causality
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violations and things like that address
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those in smaller steps to see if you can
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eventually lead that way today we have
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scientists working for NASA working for
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the US Air Force working for British
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Aerospace working for other firms and
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agencies that we don't even know about
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that are intent on discovering how to do
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star travel they have already decide
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it can be done theoretically now the
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question is okay what's the trick let's
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figure it out if you look back fifty a
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hundred years to what scientists we knew
638
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then and what we could do today who
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knows what we could do in the future so
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I have an inherent optimism about
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progress and I think that what seems
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impossible today will possibly be
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possible tomorrow we're at that point of
644
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imagining these things asking these
645
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technological questions clearly that
646
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opens the door to at least the
647
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possibility that others have figured it
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out already
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[Music]
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in 1965 Gordon Cooper was the last
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American astronaut to go up into space
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alone he orbited the planet 22 times I
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[Music]
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think those are you to know me I know
655
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that I've always spoken honestly and
656
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straightforward to you I can do so today
657
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,110
ten years earlier while stationed at
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Edwards Air Force Base
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Cooper witnessed an event that has yet
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to be explained nearly 50 years later he
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was supervising the filming of a
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precision landing facility for f-86
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fighter jets
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[Applause]
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suddenly a saucer-like craft flew
666
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directly over the cameraman three
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landing gear apparatus opened and the
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object landed on the dry lake bed in
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this typical saucer shape the double
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integral a metallic and they went out
671
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picked up their cameras and moved on out
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Floridian filming and he left it off put
673
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the gear back in the well and climbed
674
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out the very high rate of speed
675
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disappearing Cooper had the film footage
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of the strange craft developed by the
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time it returned from processing he had
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gone up through the ranks to report the
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00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:01,110
incident
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00:32:01,110 --> 00:32:04,950
anyway the colonel telling me do you
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know when the film arrived at my desk to
682
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put it in the carrier pouch there would
683
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be occurred there at my office by that
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00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:13,530
time I'm already in and they'd arranged
685
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for him to fly in our base airplane back
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to Washington with he's found we didn't
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have a chance to run it I had a chance
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to hold it up to the wind and look at it
689
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certainly good found after the developed
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film was sent by plane to Washington it
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was never seen or heard of again
692
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how would I keep in touch with anybody
693
00:32:39,090 --> 00:32:39,890
about it
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there's no way within the military or
695
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within the government of keeping track
696
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of something that is classified
697
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unless you're directly involved in it
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and I was not I went into space to learn
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about the universe we live in to get new
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insights to go beyond the boundaries of
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our known existence Apollo 14 astronaut
702
00:33:05,610 --> 00:33:07,830
and sixth man on the moon Edgar Mitchell
703
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:10,050
states in his book the way of the
704
00:33:10,050 --> 00:33:12,450
Explorer that he's never had first-hand
705
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:16,860
experience with UFOs however he has met
706
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:18,810
with credible professionals within two
707
00:33:18,810 --> 00:33:20,880
governments who have testified to their
708
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400
own first-hand experiences with Close
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Encounters during their official duties
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00:33:25,770 --> 00:33:28,110
the only people I know of that claim to
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00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,270
have been in that position
712
00:33:30,270 --> 00:33:33,480
our former intelligence military and
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00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,059
government people and some contractor
714
00:33:36,059 --> 00:33:39,330
people whose official duties in the
715
00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:42,750
early days were to investigate this and
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00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:43,820
know about it
717
00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:47,309
those people are under were under at
718
00:33:47,309 --> 00:33:51,870
that time great restrictions and high
719
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:53,610
security clearance that prevented them
720
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:56,210
from telling the general public about it
721
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what we photographed up there affected
722
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me for the rest of my life in 1964
723
00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:03,300
former US Air Force lieutenant Bob
724
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,030
Jacobs was in the 1360 ninth photo
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00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:08,190
squadron at Vandenberg Air Force Base in
726
00:34:08,190 --> 00:34:10,800
California he was in charge of photo
727
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,989
optical instrumentation at a tracking
728
00:34:12,989 --> 00:34:19,290
site in Big Sur 124 miles away his
729
00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:21,480
mission was to film an Atlas rocket go
730
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,460
through all three stages of powered
731
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:25,918
flight this particular mission was part
732
00:34:25,918 --> 00:34:27,719
of the Nike Zeus objective for the
733
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development of an anti-missile missile
734
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during the height of the Cold War all
735
00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:34,859
cameras rolled as they heard liftoff
736
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from Vandenberg over their radio
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[Music]
738
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you're looking down south southwest and
739
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the missile popped up through the fog it
740
00:34:54,849 --> 00:34:56,339
was just beautiful
741
00:34:56,339 --> 00:34:59,349
then our guys on our m/45 tracking mount
742
00:34:59,349 --> 00:35:02,190
with 180 inch lenses on it got it and
743
00:35:02,190 --> 00:35:04,240
sure enough we could see all three
744
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,680
stages of powered flight as they burned
745
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,540
out and dropped away and then of course
746
00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:09,280
to our naked I always thought was a
747
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,280
smoke trail going off into subspace
748
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,309
so we whoop Eden shouted and heard the
749
00:35:15,309 --> 00:35:18,400
film rap off in the in the BU telescope
750
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and figured well that was our first big
751
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,430
deal we got it lieutenant Jacobs then
752
00:35:24,430 --> 00:35:26,200
took the cans of film down to Vandenberg
753
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,710
to have them develop that night the
754
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:31,510
following morning Jacobs was ordered to
755
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:33,430
go immediately to the office of Maj
756
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:35,829
Florence J Mannesmann the ranking
757
00:35:35,829 --> 00:35:37,750
optical instrumentation officer in
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00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:40,059
charge I walked into his office and they
759
00:35:40,059 --> 00:35:41,800
had a screen and a 16 millimeter
760
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,099
projector setup there was a couch and
761
00:35:45,099 --> 00:35:47,109
major Mansmann said sit down and there
762
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:50,109
were two guys as I recall two guys he in
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00:35:50,109 --> 00:35:52,990
grey suits civilian clothes which was
764
00:35:52,990 --> 00:35:57,670
fairly unusual um and a major Mansmann
765
00:35:57,670 --> 00:36:01,000
said watch this and turned on the film
766
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,859
projector and I watched the screen and
767
00:36:02,859 --> 00:36:05,290
there was the launch from the day or two
768
00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:07,809
before it hit Victor as the Atlas
769
00:36:07,809 --> 00:36:10,420
missile entered the frame we could see
770
00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:13,740
the whole third stage which is which has
771
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:16,809
two rocket nozzles like this and one in
772
00:36:16,809 --> 00:36:18,069
the center or gimballed one in the
773
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:20,829
center filling our frame from a hundred
774
00:36:20,829 --> 00:36:23,290
and about 160 miles that was pretty
775
00:36:23,290 --> 00:36:25,540
exciting hot digs and then on that
776
00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:28,720
telescope we could see the warhead the
777
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:31,390
dummy warhead according to Jacobs at
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00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:33,130
this stage the rocket was traveling
779
00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:35,170
between eleven and fourteen thousand
780
00:36:35,170 --> 00:36:36,940
miles per hour when a saucer-shaped
781
00:36:36,940 --> 00:36:40,119
craft entered the frame it flew into the
782
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:42,400
frame like this and it shot a beam of
783
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,510
light at the warhead now remember all
784
00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:48,130
this stuff is flying at several thousand
785
00:36:48,130 --> 00:36:50,319
miles an hour so this thing fires a beam
786
00:36:50,319 --> 00:36:52,180
of light at the warhead hits it far as
787
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:53,920
another beam of light and then flies out
788
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:54,930
the way it came in
789
00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:57,250
and the warhead
790
00:36:57,250 --> 00:37:01,540
tumbles out of the hottest fate now when
791
00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:03,400
the lights came on major Mansmann turned
792
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,320
around looked at me and said were you
793
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,810
guys screwing around up there and I said
794
00:37:07,810 --> 00:37:13,570
no sir and he said what was that and I
795
00:37:13,570 --> 00:37:18,750
said it looks to me like we got a UFO
796
00:37:19,170 --> 00:37:21,849
nearly two decades later several letters
797
00:37:21,849 --> 00:37:24,070
written by major Florence J Manson were
798
00:37:24,070 --> 00:37:27,820
obtained in one dated March 8th 1983
799
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major Mansmann corroborated lieutenant
800
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,580
Jacobs story in the film the assumption
801
00:37:33,580 --> 00:37:35,740
was at that time extraterrestrial
802
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:38,320
details would be sketchy and from memory
803
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,619
the shape was classic discs the center
804
00:37:41,619 --> 00:37:45,310
seemed to be a raised bubble now major
805
00:37:45,310 --> 00:37:48,690
Mansmann said to me after some
806
00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:53,800
discussion about it and he said you are
807
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,859
never to speak of this again as far as
808
00:37:56,859 --> 00:38:01,480
you're concerned this never happened in
809
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,490
another letter major Mansmann describes
810
00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:06,430
how two agents took the footage they did
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00:38:06,430 --> 00:38:08,530
not sign out for all the footage but
812
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took out that part that showed the
813
00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:12,190
encounter and returned the rest of the
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00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:15,550
film as a complete package the one agent
815
00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:17,320
stated as he handed me back the film
816
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,290
that leaves you off the hook but not off
817
00:38:20,290 --> 00:38:23,890
any disclosure understood naturally my
818
00:38:23,890 --> 00:38:27,130
answer was yes sir major Mansmann never
819
00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:27,760
saw it again
820
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,190
and as far as I'm concerned or nobody
821
00:38:30,190 --> 00:38:31,270
else ever saw it again
822
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:32,800
certainly not at vandenberg I'm certain
823
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,970
that it left Vandenberg and went
824
00:38:33,970 --> 00:38:38,530
somewhere else another case involving
825
00:38:38,530 --> 00:38:40,240
nuclear missiles happened three years
826
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,310
later at Malmstrom Air Force Base in
827
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:44,950
Montana this site is the largest missile
828
00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:47,700
field in the world
829
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,250
we simply were told not to talk about it
830
00:38:51,250 --> 00:38:54,940
we did not talk about it anyone as a
831
00:38:54,940 --> 00:38:56,980
Strategic Air Command launch controller
832
00:38:56,980 --> 00:38:59,380
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Salas was one
833
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:00,700
of the men responsible for the
834
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:05,070
deployment of nuclear Minuteman missiles
835
00:39:05,070 --> 00:39:06,430
three-two-one
836
00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:14,950
kita these missiles were to be launched
837
00:39:14,950 --> 00:39:16,000
as a counter-attack
838
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,400
in the event of nuclear war on March 16
839
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,460
1967 lieutenant colonel Salas was on
840
00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:26,230
duty when he was contacted by his
841
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:28,750
topside guard stating that there was an
842
00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:30,880
unidentified object above the missile
843
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,990
site Salas ordered the guard to observe
844
00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:36,940
and report back on any further
845
00:39:36,940 --> 00:39:38,860
development then he called back within a
846
00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:41,770
few minutes and was very frightened I
847
00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:43,900
could tell by his voice he was extremely
848
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:48,510
agitated he said there was an object
849
00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:51,220
hovering outside the front cave a
850
00:39:51,220 --> 00:39:52,240
reddish orange
851
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,230
oval-shaped object and it just hung
852
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:57,280
there quietly
853
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,360
I went woke up my commander and told him
854
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,890
about the two phone calls and as I was
855
00:40:05,890 --> 00:40:08,530
telling him about the phone calls our
856
00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:12,190
missiles went into no-go condition one
857
00:40:12,190 --> 00:40:16,440
after the other we lost nearly 20
858
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,380
missiles that morning
859
00:40:19,380 --> 00:40:21,720
after speaking with his commander solace
860
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,870
again contacted the topside guard the
861
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:28,130
guard said that the UFO had vanished
862
00:40:28,130 --> 00:40:31,410
basically just took off at high speed
863
00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:33,020
there's no longer there
864
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:36,050
these missiles are controlled
865
00:40:36,050 --> 00:40:39,480
individually so if something did happen
866
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,120
within the system the electrical system
867
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,880
might say or the command control system
868
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,000
for one missile one launch facility it
869
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,530
would not affect the others and in
870
00:40:52,530 --> 00:40:54,300
addition these missiles are separated by
871
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:58,110
miles so all these things point to the
872
00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:02,550
fact that somehow this object was able
873
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:07,950
to disable these missiles later that day
874
00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:09,990
solace was ordered to report to the Air
875
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:11,340
Force Office of Special Investigations
876
00:41:11,340 --> 00:41:15,330
for debriefing by two OSI officers and
877
00:41:15,330 --> 00:41:17,540
so after we gave him our little debrief
878
00:41:17,540 --> 00:41:21,540
the first thing if OSI guy did is stand
879
00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:24,030
up and said you need to sign these
880
00:41:24,030 --> 00:41:26,010
documents not to disclose any of this to
881
00:41:26,010 --> 00:41:31,230
anyone ever and we signed and basically
882
00:41:31,230 --> 00:41:31,860
that was it
883
00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:35,760
they neither one of them asked too many
884
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,630
more questions so we were escorted out
885
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:41,030
several recently declassified documents
886
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:44,040
supports alice's claims of UFO sightings
887
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,700
near Malmstrom this preliminary report
888
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:51,390
dated the 24th of march 1967 states that
889
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:53,940
between the hours of 2100 and Oh 400
890
00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:56,940
Mountain Standard Time numerous reports
891
00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:58,560
were received by Malmstrom Air Force
892
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,440
Base agencies of UFO sightings in the
893
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,460
Great Falls Montana area it goes on
894
00:42:05,460 --> 00:42:08,370
further to state that reports of a UFO
895
00:42:08,370 --> 00:42:11,130
landing near belt Montana were received
896
00:42:11,130 --> 00:42:13,650
from several sources including deputies
897
00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:17,090
of Cascade County Sheriff's Office
898
00:42:17,090 --> 00:42:19,830
another formerly classified secret Air
899
00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:22,830
Force Telex states that the fact that no
900
00:42:22,830 --> 00:42:24,690
apparent reason for the loss of 10
901
00:42:24,690 --> 00:42:26,700
missiles can be readily identified is
902
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:28,800
cause for grave concern to this
903
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,190
headquarters
904
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:34,920
in 1993 after lieutenant colonel Salas
905
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
had retired from the Air Force he tried
906
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,910
to gain access to official Air Force
907
00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:41,940
records of the incident in a letter from
908
00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:43,710
the Department of the Air Force he was
909
00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:46,920
informed that no UFO report affected
910
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,770
national security making reference to an
911
00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:51,990
attached Air Force fact sheet which
912
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:55,680
states no UFO reported investigated and
913
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,780
evaluated by the Air Force has ever
914
00:42:57,780 --> 00:42:59,970
given any indication of threat to our
915
00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:05,220
national security if 20 nuclear missiles
916
00:43:05,220 --> 00:43:07,319
going down at the same time UFOs are
917
00:43:07,319 --> 00:43:12,240
sighted nearly 20 is not a national
918
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,030
security incident that I don't know what
919
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:18,630
is if unidentified flying objects are
920
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:20,790
capable of disabling our most powerful
921
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:23,099
weapon systems then understandably the
922
00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:25,020
military would not want to reveal any
923
00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:27,950
information exposing its vulnerability
924
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:30,390
this is confirmed in a letter from the
925
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:32,130
Department of the US Air Force which
926
00:43:32,130 --> 00:43:34,380
states as regards this subject matter
927
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:36,990
mere existence or nonexistence is
928
00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:39,299
currently and properly classified per
929
00:43:39,299 --> 00:43:41,700
executive order and exempt from
930
00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,799
mandatory disclosure under the Freedom
931
00:43:43,799 --> 00:43:45,930
of Information Act because it would
932
00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:48,089
reveal defense capability or lack
933
00:43:48,089 --> 00:43:51,720
thereof this letter was a response to an
934
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,819
inquiry made by electronic system
935
00:43:53,819 --> 00:43:56,849
technician Li Graham at the time Mr
936
00:43:56,849 --> 00:43:58,140
Graham worked at Aerojet
937
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:00,299
a prime contractor to the US Air Force
938
00:44:00,299 --> 00:44:03,089
in developing DSP satellites
939
00:44:03,089 --> 00:44:05,910
he asked the foreign technology division
940
00:44:05,910 --> 00:44:07,740
if the satellite system he worked on
941
00:44:07,740 --> 00:44:12,150
could and had detected UFOs perhaps we
942
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:15,630
need some outside universal threat to
943
00:44:15,630 --> 00:44:17,579
man five separate occasions Ronald
944
00:44:17,579 --> 00:44:19,470
Reagan made references to an outside
945
00:44:19,470 --> 00:44:21,900
alien threat and the unifying effect it
946
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:24,420
would have on us all one such reference
947
00:44:24,420 --> 00:44:27,059
was made in September of 1987 while
948
00:44:27,059 --> 00:44:28,880
addressing the United Nations I
949
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,740
occasionally think how quickly our
950
00:44:31,740 --> 00:44:36,059
differences worldwide would vanish if we
951
00:44:36,059 --> 00:44:38,579
were facing an alien threat from outside
952
00:44:38,579 --> 00:44:40,530
this world
953
00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:44,970
and yet I ask you is not an alien force
954
00:44:44,970 --> 00:44:47,670
already among us what could be more
955
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:50,730
alien to the universal aspirations of
956
00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:53,550
our peoples than war and the threat of
957
00:44:53,550 --> 00:44:55,730
war
958
00:44:59,810 --> 00:45:04,630
[Music]
959
00:45:07,090 --> 00:45:09,460
not every government chooses to deny the
960
00:45:09,460 --> 00:45:13,120
existence of UFOs since the fall of
961
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,700
communism in 1989 information
962
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:17,380
surrounding the subject has become much
963
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:20,700
more accessible in Russia
964
00:45:25,470 --> 00:45:28,119
cosmonauts Pavel Popovich was one of
965
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:30,519
Russia's earliest cosmonauts he joins
966
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:32,229
the ranks of an increasing number of
967
00:45:32,229 --> 00:45:34,839
military personnel who have testified as
968
00:45:34,839 --> 00:45:38,099
to the validity of the UFO phenomena
969
00:45:38,099 --> 00:45:40,930
Major General Popovich shared with us a
970
00:45:40,930 --> 00:45:42,910
sighting he had while flying home from
971
00:45:42,910 --> 00:45:45,190
Washington DC with a delegation of
972
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:48,099
scientists not but you tell me well dig
973
00:45:48,099 --> 00:45:49,779
that equation learning official was
974
00:45:49,779 --> 00:45:52,029
really aluminum matter but modality
975
00:45:52,029 --> 00:45:54,519
William another yeah past Madrid even
976
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:56,259
there was not a lot of effective stress
977
00:45:56,259 --> 00:45:59,109
or study Cemetery Adam the practice
978
00:45:59,109 --> 00:46:02,200
skillet new colony a morbid Pantera at
979
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,380
mass little bit kilometer and morbid
980
00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:08,759
Natisha me a trebuchet a little object
981
00:46:08,759 --> 00:46:12,430
presume ramen a true one day for me
982
00:46:12,430 --> 00:46:14,829
around a bit any true will merely be a
983
00:46:14,829 --> 00:46:19,450
jerk ability no yes rather huge rich
984
00:46:19,450 --> 00:46:21,999
history beetle yes no no get the
985
00:46:21,999 --> 00:46:23,589
typically title mahabharatam
986
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:27,249
do it a unit on your pocket pilots
987
00:46:27,249 --> 00:46:29,619
contacted ground control ground control
988
00:46:29,619 --> 00:46:32,440
did not detect anything on radar even
989
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,210
though the object could be seen by all
990
00:46:34,210 --> 00:46:38,859
occupants of the plane partial peril in
991
00:46:38,859 --> 00:46:41,499
inclusiveness Kurisu yes Lee machine is
992
00:46:41,499 --> 00:46:44,410
yet a pre Manhattan diverse at PD self
993
00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:46,660
in the tissue kilometer of chest don't
994
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:48,880
partial so scholarship repair a jet a
995
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,319
politician but most on a bananas no Anna
996
00:46:53,319 --> 00:46:55,420
bistra no pasticcio
997
00:46:55,420 --> 00:46:58,239
yet more that she completes it sore
998
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:04,140
aquatic impression a bananas ensure in
999
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:06,549
academic in Victoria to absolute
1000
00:47:06,549 --> 00:47:11,069
penitent even among seven photos of you
1001
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:17,839
special intelligence of the century from
1002
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:19,299
space communication of Russia
1003
00:47:19,299 --> 00:47:22,970
Major General buy cigarettes leave
1004
00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:25,160
[Music]
1005
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,800
just outside Moscow is star city this is
1006
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,119
the home of the Russian space program
1007
00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:41,980
[Music]
1008
00:47:44,670 --> 00:47:47,160
during the space race of the late 50s
1009
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,900
and early 60s the Russians also
1010
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:56,450
experienced numerous sightings of UFOs
1011
00:48:07,299 --> 00:48:10,519
in Star City we met with general Alexia
1012
00:48:10,519 --> 00:48:12,469
who spoke with us about the history of
1013
00:48:12,469 --> 00:48:16,689
unidentified flying objects over Russia
1014
00:48:18,669 --> 00:48:22,579
she spent an apipa Legolas toe at asoto
1015
00:48:22,579 --> 00:48:25,939
drop where Americans IDO molinaro's
1016
00:48:25,939 --> 00:48:30,279
ruski duel in a poncy know yet Amira
1017
00:48:30,279 --> 00:48:37,609
CCMS room the 3d Washington Missouri LMS
1018
00:48:37,609 --> 00:48:42,459
is neutral casa de la bola country with
1019
00:48:42,459 --> 00:48:45,919
position of the Whitlam America subset
1020
00:48:45,919 --> 00:48:49,489
evil scheme serious on spirits during
1021
00:48:49,489 --> 00:48:52,009
the cold war with the Soviet Union the
1022
00:48:52,009 --> 00:48:54,169
u-2 spy plane was one of the most highly
1023
00:48:54,169 --> 00:48:57,049
classified projects in the late 50s
1024
00:48:57,049 --> 00:48:58,999
Gordon Cooper was involved with its
1025
00:48:58,999 --> 00:49:01,459
research and development being familiar
1026
00:49:01,459 --> 00:49:03,769
with that eras cutting-edge technology
1027
00:49:03,769 --> 00:49:05,900
Cooper was certain that the craft he'd
1028
00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:08,689
seen was not manufactured on this planet
1029
00:49:08,689 --> 00:49:12,259
I mean that we didn't have any vehicles
1030
00:49:12,259 --> 00:49:17,089
of that kind and I was 99.9 percent sure
1031
00:49:17,089 --> 00:49:18,650
that the Russians didn't have any of
1032
00:49:18,650 --> 00:49:19,809
that time either
1033
00:49:19,809 --> 00:49:22,779
yes or received as a given ah
1034
00:49:22,779 --> 00:49:24,589
statistically is possible
1035
00:49:24,589 --> 00:49:26,900
what should the quiz Piscotty I was
1036
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:28,579
happy Dussehra Guerrero right in your
1037
00:49:28,579 --> 00:49:32,239
podium with the news of the war on you
1038
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:32,749
later
1039
00:49:32,749 --> 00:49:37,119
no achieve the fantasy
1040
00:49:38,090 --> 00:49:39,940
[Music]
1041
00:49:39,940 --> 00:49:43,190
by the 70s the Russian military began to
1042
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:46,190
take the UFO subject very seriously but
1043
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:49,490
open formats in the stick look a quarter
1044
00:49:49,490 --> 00:49:52,520
aronia doing very queasy thunderstruck
1045
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,520
they always immediately forward to you
1046
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,980
million years a [ __ ] will only was
1047
00:49:57,980 --> 00:50:02,480
work at this point the Soviet Union
1048
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,430
allocated a great sum of money towards
1049
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:06,470
the thorough investigation of the UFO
1050
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:10,880
phenomena he would querida attributable
1051
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,190
opera villa a lot Lewis miss of worship
1052
00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:20,600
Livia name what took that will actually
1053
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,430
do much stone this is weakness not a
1054
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:30,200
haste after the fall of the Soviet Union
1055
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,690
glasnost brought about a new era of
1056
00:50:32,690 --> 00:50:35,840
openness we traveled to mineral water a
1057
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,030
city near the Chechnyan border where we
1058
00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:40,010
met with Deputy Minister of the Interior
1059
00:50:40,010 --> 00:50:43,730
Colonel Levitch he shared with us a
1060
00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:45,650
sighting he had while flying in a
1061
00:50:45,650 --> 00:50:48,380
commercial jet over Russia he along with
1062
00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:51,500
100 other passengers noticed a spherical
1063
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:54,200
object outside the plane let that shark
1064
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,060
not molinos miss Josette Keveza Zarek 0
1065
00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:02,920
watson i misty a car as she showers to a
1066
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,920
NASA probe our diet national model yet
1067
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,890
oddly was parrot Ottawa chess Academy I
1068
00:51:12,890 --> 00:51:14,960
presume Nellis we're apart of mineral in
1069
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,970
a wooded talk attacked a materially is
1070
00:51:16,970 --> 00:51:22,390
we do not pregnant
1071
00:51:22,650 --> 00:51:24,720
this sighting led the colonel to do
1072
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,090
extensive research on UFO incidents
1073
00:51:27,090 --> 00:51:29,670
throughout Russia booster service
1074
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:33,810
console using bolas activity ma ma Pro
1075
00:51:33,810 --> 00:51:35,850
stoppin asli shatru bt resolution
1076
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:38,250
echoing story- public art Sena bola
1077
00:51:38,250 --> 00:51:42,270
Nostra Aetate Auto V neato yashi
1078
00:51:42,270 --> 00:51:46,890
thyristor at Critias very sanitary at
1079
00:51:46,890 --> 00:51:49,230
Ritter get him
1080
00:51:49,230 --> 00:51:52,380
Nepali Nehemiah Chicago Hawaii an opera
1081
00:51:52,380 --> 00:52:04,920
Nisha symbology 140 miles north of
1082
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,950
London is Bentwaters England in December
1083
00:52:07,950 --> 00:52:10,620
of 1980 the United States Air Force Base
1084
00:52:10,620 --> 00:52:12,630
armed with nuclear weapons was
1085
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:14,790
reportedly the site of a series of UFO
1086
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:18,680
encounters over a three-day period
1087
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,340
we're responding to reports of a
1088
00:52:35,340 --> 00:52:38,130
possible downed aircraft three patrolmen
1089
00:52:38,130 --> 00:52:39,990
were sent out to Rendlesham forest to
1090
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:41,600
investigate
1091
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,760
airman first class Edward Caban zeg was
1092
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,710
one of the security officers present
1093
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:50,760
that night we were on security one which
1094
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,460
was in charge of mobile security for the
1095
00:52:53,460 --> 00:52:57,150
Woodbridge Base and we responded to
1096
00:52:57,150 --> 00:53:00,060
jimbros this sighting of something out
1097
00:53:00,060 --> 00:53:02,730
on the edge of the flight line with a
1098
00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:05,070
controller on the radio broadcast over
1099
00:53:05,070 --> 00:53:06,660
the air that go down and check out a
1100
00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:09,450
possible UFO another security officer
1101
00:53:09,450 --> 00:53:11,640
present was airman first class John
1102
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,730
Burroughs so it was like me I was
1103
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:16,710
Penniston me and a cabana Zak to my
1104
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:19,410
right it was apparent that that wasn't
1105
00:53:19,410 --> 00:53:21,570
an aircraft crash we knew that much
1106
00:53:21,570 --> 00:53:24,300
staff sergeant Jim Penniston was sent
1107
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:26,700
down to lead Burroughs and cabin SOG to
1108
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:29,460
investigate the object there was a craft
1109
00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:33,650
of some sort that was sitting just
1110
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:36,060
inside the tree line as the three
1111
00:53:36,060 --> 00:53:37,620
officers approached the alleged crash
1112
00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:39,600
site it became obvious that it wasn't
1113
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,610
what they were prepared for Burroughs
1114
00:53:41,610 --> 00:53:42,960
would say to Jim Penniston do you see
1115
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,700
that you see do you see what's out there
1116
00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:47,430
at that at the edge of the trees it was
1117
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:50,760
just bright lights you know and and the
1118
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,080
only way you can describe it is it I
1119
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,670
guess you'd call it an object at the
1120
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:55,320
point in time three of us had direct
1121
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,570
observation of the craft the closer we
1122
00:53:57,570 --> 00:53:59,120
would get to it we would lose
1123
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,950
communication you know with central
1124
00:54:01,950 --> 00:54:05,190
security control Kabam sag was sent back
1125
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:07,110
towards the base to help transmit radio
1126
00:54:07,110 --> 00:54:08,940
communications between the other two
1127
00:54:08,940 --> 00:54:11,310
officers who went further to investigate
1128
00:54:11,310 --> 00:54:13,530
the only noise we heard out in the woods
1129
00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:15,840
was the the noise of the animals just as
1130
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,880
burles and I entered a tree line the
1131
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,850
shape of the craft was defined the
1132
00:54:20,850 --> 00:54:22,650
closer we got the more the white light
1133
00:54:22,650 --> 00:54:24,600
dissipated but what appeared was a
1134
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,680
trying of craft when we approached it it
1135
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,220
was oh I say we measured probably about
1136
00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:33,900
nine feet
1137
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:38,880
long maybe six feet high a little higher
1138
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,710
made maybe six and a half feet
1139
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:42,839
the lighting emanated from the fabric of
1140
00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:44,910
the craft and it would actually move
1141
00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:46,500
around I mean it would move you'd have
1142
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,839
different locations where maybe a little
1143
00:54:48,839 --> 00:54:51,029
blue lighting was going into it or maybe
1144
00:54:51,029 --> 00:54:53,970
a little rat and then there must have
1145
00:54:53,970 --> 00:54:55,890
been some type of lighting underneath of
1146
00:54:55,890 --> 00:54:58,589
it because it's silhouetted the aircraft
1147
00:54:58,589 --> 00:55:02,549
itself what I did that night is I had my
1148
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:04,710
notebook with me I went around and
1149
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:07,049
started doing a 360 walk around the area
1150
00:55:07,049 --> 00:55:09,809
taking recording my observations I was
1151
00:55:09,809 --> 00:55:11,819
looking underneath the craft like that I
1152
00:55:11,819 --> 00:55:14,210
had taken quite detailed notes on that
1153
00:55:14,210 --> 00:55:18,390
type of aircraft still unknown no
1154
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:22,230
apparent landing gear no sound but
1155
00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:25,740
appears to be pulsating some house yeah
1156
00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:28,220
it was pretty nerve-wracking I mean
1157
00:55:28,220 --> 00:55:30,150
there's something there right in front
1158
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:32,309
of you don't know what it is I would go
1159
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:36,020
ahead and feel the craft which was warm
1160
00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:39,470
there was static electricity in the air
1161
00:55:39,470 --> 00:55:42,660
very warm to touch identifying markings
1162
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:45,299
are on left front side as I came around
1163
00:55:45,299 --> 00:55:48,059
to the one side of the of the craft
1164
00:55:48,059 --> 00:55:53,490
there was itching on the face meat just
1165
00:55:53,490 --> 00:55:55,470
above the center part of the craft
1166
00:55:55,470 --> 00:55:57,539
itself of course this has done all
1167
00:55:57,539 --> 00:55:59,279
freehand as I was walking around the
1168
00:55:59,279 --> 00:56:01,950
craft but these symbols ran from left to
1169
00:56:01,950 --> 00:56:04,410
right across and then underneath the
1170
00:56:04,410 --> 00:56:07,130
those that line of symbols was this
1171
00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:10,410
which is triangular and some type of
1172
00:56:10,410 --> 00:56:12,270
circle here is some type of circle here
1173
00:56:12,270 --> 00:56:14,549
in a larger circle here and of course
1174
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:16,720
all this was filled in
1175
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,660
would be like the itchy part of it like
1176
00:56:19,660 --> 00:56:22,240
you an etched glass so those symbols
1177
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:23,920
were raised and they had they have a
1178
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,780
different feel than the rest of the
1179
00:56:25,780 --> 00:56:28,530
fabric of the craft
1180
00:56:28,530 --> 00:56:32,130
liftoff occurred at 2:45 with no sound
1181
00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:34,410
no air disturbance and no other
1182
00:56:34,410 --> 00:56:37,859
identifying markings myself and at that
1183
00:56:37,859 --> 00:56:40,079
time Burroughs we were fairly good
1184
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,560
distance maybe 30 feet away from it and
1185
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:47,220
we had taken a defensive position on
1186
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:48,990
that on the ground I mean it was
1187
00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:50,550
threatening to Mia but it wasn't the
1188
00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:52,619
type that you were going to shoot on it
1189
00:56:52,619 --> 00:56:54,839
and also the fact was that what would
1190
00:56:54,839 --> 00:56:56,310
happen if I woulda shot out
1191
00:56:56,310 --> 00:57:00,569
well what good would it have done and
1192
00:57:00,569 --> 00:57:04,859
then they started moving back in between
1193
00:57:04,859 --> 00:57:08,550
the trees with absolutely no sound no
1194
00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:12,000
air disturbance at all whatever it was
1195
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,190
went up and shot back up out over the
1196
00:57:14,190 --> 00:57:15,839
trees it's like he was there and was
1197
00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:20,450
gone take off unknown speed and I write
1198
00:57:20,450 --> 00:57:26,010
impossible details of this sighting were
1199
00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:27,089
first made public
1200
00:57:27,089 --> 00:57:29,160
when this Air Force memo was obtained
1201
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,810
through the Freedom of Information Act
1202
00:57:30,810 --> 00:57:34,380
it states the object was described as
1203
00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:37,230
being triangular in shape approximately
1204
00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:39,569
two to three meters across the base an
1205
00:57:39,569 --> 00:57:42,329
approximately two meters high it had a
1206
00:57:42,329 --> 00:57:44,339
red light on top and a bank of blue
1207
00:57:44,339 --> 00:57:47,339
lights underneath as the patrolman
1208
00:57:47,339 --> 00:57:48,990
approached the object it maneuvered
1209
00:57:48,990 --> 00:57:52,050
through the trees and disappeared this
1210
00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:53,940
Air Force memo was written by Deputy
1211
00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:57,030
base commander Charles halt General
1212
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:58,890
Gordon Williams who was commander of the
1213
00:57:58,890 --> 00:58:01,650
base at the time denies either seeing or
1214
00:58:01,650 --> 00:58:03,990
authorizing the release of this memo in
1215
00:58:03,990 --> 00:58:06,359
a tape recording presented to general
1216
00:58:06,359 --> 00:58:08,970
Williams airman Burroughs questions how
1217
00:58:08,970 --> 00:58:11,520
a story of this magnitude could escape
1218
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:26,160
his oversight let me ask that last part
1219
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,260
about that memo okay yeah I agree
1220
00:58:29,260 --> 00:58:31,540
that that went under the door and I
1221
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:33,310
didn't see it now did he have a
1222
00:58:33,310 --> 00:58:35,320
motivation and doing that did he think
1223
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,940
that if he brought it in to me I would
1224
00:58:36,940 --> 00:58:39,100
have stepped on it I certainly would
1225
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:40,480
have looked at it very carefully because
1226
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,120
it had some things in there that I don't
1227
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,810
think we were prepared to defend
1228
00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:48,250
Lieutenant Colonel halt was most likely
1229
00:58:48,250 --> 00:58:50,530
motivated to write this memo because he
1230
00:58:50,530 --> 00:58:52,600
too was a witness to a second occurrence
1231
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,360
as he himself states at the bottom of
1232
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,850
the document numerous individuals
1233
00:58:57,850 --> 00:59:00,340
including the undersigned witnessed the
1234
00:59:00,340 --> 00:59:03,700
activities signed Charles I halt
1235
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:05,950
Lieutenant Colonel United States Air
1236
00:59:05,950 --> 00:59:09,880
Force he captured the encounter on his
1237
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:28,960
pocket I believe that he went under
1238
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,170
debunk the whole situation and I think
1239
00:59:32,170 --> 00:59:34,500
he got
1240
00:59:34,820 --> 00:59:37,220
in the middle of a situation he couldn't
1241
00:59:37,220 --> 00:59:42,950
explain you he came toward us had
1242
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:45,050
stopped overhead and sent down a beam
1243
00:59:45,050 --> 00:59:47,300
the beam wasn't like an ordinary being
1244
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:48,710
the light that radiates out it was a
1245
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:50,480
focused beam like a laser beam that
1246
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,310
illuminated the grind a small circle
1247
00:59:52,310 --> 01:00:02,150
probably two-foot or so in diameter when
1248
01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:04,220
I gave the tape that I made to my
1249
01:00:04,220 --> 01:00:06,110
superior he took I'm plated to third Air
1250
01:00:06,110 --> 01:00:08,600
Force two to the commander and a staff
1251
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,580
and they all scratched her head and the
1252
01:00:10,580 --> 01:00:11,990
answer finally was it's a British a
1253
01:00:11,990 --> 01:00:13,760
fairly visit them give it back to them
1254
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,860
hence I wrote the memo that has become
1255
01:00:15,860 --> 01:00:18,440
public I think that the halt was
1256
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,690
definitely wrong and doing that once
1257
01:00:20,690 --> 01:00:24,950
that cat was out of the bag you know I
1258
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:26,390
couldn't put Humpty Dumpty back together
1259
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:32,180
again and it lived its own life what did
1260
01:00:32,180 --> 01:00:34,100
happen over a period of three days at
1261
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,100
Bentwaters did a UFO actually land at a
1262
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:39,800
u.s. airbase in England that is one
1263
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,930
explanation that it actually happened as
1264
01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:45,130
Colonel Holt reported the other
1265
01:00:45,130 --> 01:00:49,880
explanation is that it didn't and in
1266
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,120
that case one is bound to assume that
1267
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,610
Colonel Holt and all his men were
1268
01:00:55,610 --> 01:00:58,400
hallucinating the British Ministry of
1269
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,350
Defense's position is that nothing that
1270
01:01:00,350 --> 01:01:02,330
took place at Bentwaters was of any
1271
01:01:02,330 --> 01:01:05,090
defence interest this view is criticized
1272
01:01:05,090 --> 01:01:06,860
by former chief of the Defence Staff
1273
01:01:06,860 --> 01:01:10,250
Admiral Lord Hill Norton that the
1274
01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:13,970
colonel of a an American Air Force Base
1275
01:01:13,970 --> 01:01:17,150
in Suffolk and his merry men are
1276
01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:19,340
hallucinating when there are nuclear
1277
01:01:19,340 --> 01:01:22,850
armed aircraft on the base must be of
1278
01:01:22,850 --> 01:01:25,940
Defence interest if indeed what he says
1279
01:01:25,940 --> 01:01:28,730
took place did take place and why on
1280
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:31,280
earth should he make it up then surely
1281
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,840
the entry of a vehicle from outer space
1282
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,260
certainly not man-made to a defence base
1283
01:01:39,260 --> 01:01:42,230
in this country also cannot fail to be
1284
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:44,840
of Defence interest the public position
1285
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,490
of the Ministry of Defence is the
1286
01:01:46,490 --> 01:01:49,940
UFOs posed no threat to the defense of
1287
01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:50,390
the realm
1288
01:01:50,390 --> 01:01:52,550
well I quite understand such statements
1289
01:01:52,550 --> 01:01:54,530
and indeed during my tour of duty I
1290
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:56,810
probably wrote statements like that
1291
01:01:56,810 --> 01:02:01,010
from 1992 to 1995 the British government
1292
01:02:01,010 --> 01:02:03,800
employed Nick Pope to investigate UFO
1293
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,580
reports
1294
01:02:04,580 --> 01:02:07,790
he now differs with their position while
1295
01:02:07,790 --> 01:02:09,710
it's true to say that there's been no
1296
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:13,190
overt hostile action it certainly seems
1297
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:16,040
to me premature to say that there is
1298
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,260
nothing of any defense significance when
1299
01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:21,380
you don't know what they are they claim
1300
01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:24,440
that something from outside the Earth's
1301
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,930
atmosphere landed at their Air Force
1302
01:02:26,930 --> 01:02:30,230
Base they went and stood by it they
1303
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:32,630
inspected it they photographed it the
1304
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:34,550
following day they took tests on the
1305
01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:36,260
worth of ground where it had been and
1306
01:02:36,260 --> 01:02:59,599
found radioactive traces out there in
1307
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,099
the area the next morning after we got
1308
01:03:01,099 --> 01:03:02,810
off duty and found areas where something
1309
01:03:02,810 --> 01:03:04,430
was damaged that's when your even more
1310
01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:07,310
like what's going on I think it's fairly
1311
01:03:07,310 --> 01:03:10,310
well known that Colonel Holt and his
1312
01:03:10,310 --> 01:03:13,820
team examined the landing site very
1313
01:03:13,820 --> 01:03:16,339
carefully both the damage to the trees
1314
01:03:16,339 --> 01:03:20,660
and the three indentations found on the
1315
01:03:20,660 --> 01:03:22,940
forest floor where this metallic craft
1316
01:03:22,940 --> 01:03:26,089
was seen to land Jim went back two days
1317
01:03:26,089 --> 01:03:28,400
later and made plaster casts you can see
1318
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,930
the sides it's approximately eight to
1319
01:03:29,930 --> 01:03:32,900
ten inches across and about three inches
1320
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:36,260
deep at its maximum point this is a cast
1321
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:38,420
number - he made an impression of all
1322
01:03:38,420 --> 01:03:40,190
three of the indentations and they were
1323
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:41,670
all identical
1324
01:03:41,670 --> 01:03:44,160
the united states air force position is
1325
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,990
that there was a sighting on the base
1326
01:03:45,990 --> 01:03:48,420
witnessed by both high-ranking officers
1327
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:50,970
and base security police however
1328
01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:53,119
according to the united states air force
1329
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:56,010
military personnel mistook a stationary
1330
01:03:56,010 --> 01:04:00,630
lighthouse for a UFO I was told to sign
1331
01:04:00,630 --> 01:04:04,680
some paperwork stating that what I saw
1332
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,950
out there was just the beacon that was
1333
01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:10,319
that was out there and that and that
1334
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:12,980
there was nothing out of the ordinary
1335
01:04:12,980 --> 01:04:15,630
45 been an investigation on the ground
1336
01:04:15,630 --> 01:04:18,059
with a craft that that you're touching
1337
01:04:18,059 --> 01:04:21,000
and feeling and observing and doing a
1338
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,460
walk around to be confused with lights
1339
01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:26,160
in the sky or a lighthouse or just
1340
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,210
totally absurd lighthouses flied and
1341
01:04:30,210 --> 01:04:33,000
it'll go up they don't go back you know
1342
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,890
and and you could say well if you were a
1343
01:04:34,890 --> 01:04:36,420
half a mile away and you thought
1344
01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:37,799
something moved up and the beacon was
1345
01:04:37,799 --> 01:04:39,510
thrown think we were right on top of
1346
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:41,220
whatever it was right there so there's
1347
01:04:41,220 --> 01:04:42,720
no way that was the lighthouse beacon
1348
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,450
three competent Air Force guys thought
1349
01:04:47,450 --> 01:04:51,150
told not to ever talk about it georgina
1350
01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:52,650
Bruni has been researching the
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Bentwaters incident for over five years
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her book you can't tell the people is
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the definitive account of this case in
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May of 2001 she was one of the first to
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receive a number of previously
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classified documents from the Ministry
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of Defense about the Bentwaters incident
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these documents are known as the
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Rendlesham files in one of the first
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documents in the file we have now in
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black and white that general Gabriel who
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was the chief of the United States Air
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Force in Europe was handed taped
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evidence why would general Gabriel one
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01:05:28,890 --> 01:05:30,630
of the most important members of the US
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military in Europe be handed evidence
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for the incident unless it was of
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extreme significance you had the largest
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tech fighter we immunized
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air force okay through the British they
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released documents admitting that
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general Gabriel came down and took all
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the information and has proven that the
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stuff disappeared the word all the
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reports go
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you know we had gun general Gabler off
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there we had who was the top Air Force
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general in Europe there three days later
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why was he there
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well he's there to manage what was going
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on he was there for information control
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he was there to obtain evidence he was
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there for all that stuff that they're
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designing happen the other significant
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factor is that this is not your father
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just talking here we have the Defense
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Intelligence staff carrying out their
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own investigation and admitting that the
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radiation readings were 10 times higher
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than normal one other document released
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in the Rendlesham files is this
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defensive press line issued by the mo d
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instructing the authorities how they
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should respond to the media it states
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that mo d was satisfied that there was
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nothing of defense interest and there
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was no question of any contact with
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alien beings we were told not to talk
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about it so we didn't what we saw out
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there was definitely unidentifiable what
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01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,980
I saw did not appear to be man-made way
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beyond any technology we had at the time
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and probably even do today I could never
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identify what it was that's why I was
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called UFO I could say without a doubt
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01:07:13,019 --> 01:07:16,699
that were probably not alone
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in the southwest of England just outside
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Somerset there was another sighting it
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was captured on videotape got it got it
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yeah it's coming this way yeah yeah I
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can see
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is it it is the UFO that you saw and
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originally was spotted talks me about
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200 yards to the left of the aerial mast
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and I suppose it was probably at about
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500 feet up it was very low in the sky
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and this is a very communicative
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communications they've got three
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military mass on there and it sends out
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what is a navigational signal which is
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used for aircraft the other two areas
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that are near the top we're not quite
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sure but there is a post frequency that
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comes from them
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the actual UFO from the time it was
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first seen by rod Dickinson who did the
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filming it lasted approximately 12
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minutes so it was quite a long period of
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time for a daylight sighting to occur we
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took this tape to be analyzed by Lucas
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films special effects division
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Industrial Light and Magic in San Rafael
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California here we met with Bill George
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an academy award-winning visual effects
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supervisor over the last 20 years his
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special effects have been featured in
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films like Star Wars The Phantom Menace
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01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,770
the optical zoom certainly would he
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01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:11,630
analyzed this footage to determine its
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authenticity there are several things
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01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:15,620
that I see when the footage is running
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01:09:15,620 --> 01:09:18,529
that tells me this was actually there
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01:09:18,529 --> 01:09:20,359
when this was filmed first of all it's
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01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:23,000
the shake the shake if you were to give
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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,920
me a background plate of just the sky
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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:26,540
and say we want you to take this image
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01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:28,460
of a flying saucer and match it in
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01:09:28,460 --> 01:09:30,290
that's something that's technically very
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01:09:30,290 --> 01:09:31,760
difficult to do because you would have
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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,590
to match putting the two elements
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01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:34,729
together you would have to match the
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shake now certainly we have computers
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01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:39,170
that can track that but this is just
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01:09:39,170 --> 01:09:41,090
this is all over the map a couple other
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01:09:41,090 --> 01:09:43,490
cues that tell me that this is actually
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01:09:43,490 --> 01:09:45,529
there when it was being filmed was that
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01:09:45,529 --> 01:09:47,210
is going in and out of focus with the
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01:09:47,210 --> 01:09:50,180
background because the camera is trying
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01:09:50,180 --> 01:09:51,830
to compensate and trying to fo get it to
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01:09:51,830 --> 01:09:53,689
probably have some sort of autofocus so
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the background is going in and out of
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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,310
focus along with the object there are
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01:09:58,310 --> 01:10:00,020
these dark things flying through frame
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and if someone was to have to put that
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01:10:01,820 --> 01:10:03,200
in there they would have to composite it
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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,880
in behind the birds it's a it would be a
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01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,130
technical problem Bill George couldn't
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01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:09,380
say it was a real UFO but he could
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01:10:09,380 --> 01:10:11,450
confirm for us that the object was not
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01:10:11,450 --> 01:10:14,150
added in later given those Clues I'm
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01:10:14,150 --> 01:10:16,220
convinced that this object was there
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01:10:16,220 --> 01:10:20,930
when this person was was taping in 1968
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01:10:20,930 --> 01:10:23,180
the UFO subject was being debated at the
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highest levels of government the debate
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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,830
was triggered by a major sighting over
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01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:29,860
the state of Michigan
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01:10:29,860 --> 01:10:32,440
I could see the light on either side and
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then the red light was sort of casting a
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01:10:34,750 --> 01:10:36,400
glow for the whole thing so it looked
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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,280
like a round dip when it got to the top
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01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,010
of the trees it stopped you know a blue
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01:10:42,010 --> 01:10:44,230
and a white light come on good evening
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01:10:44,230 --> 01:10:46,600
Walter Cronkite reported the incident on
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01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,960
CBS residents of the area saw it too the
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01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,100
police saw it
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01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:53,139
sergeant Newell Snyder of the Sheriff's
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01:10:53,139 --> 01:10:55,030
Office remembered it well enough to draw
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01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:57,850
it what do you think it was off they
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01:10:57,850 --> 01:10:59,949
called a flying saucer that's what it is
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01:10:59,949 --> 01:11:02,230
the Air Force Senate consultant Alan
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01:11:02,230 --> 01:11:05,320
Hynek in to review what had been going
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01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:05,889
on
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01:11:05,889 --> 01:11:10,900
and Hynek off about one or two days on
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01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:12,969
the field had to face a big press
1495
01:11:12,969 --> 01:11:15,040
conference he said well I don't know
1496
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,830
what was going on it may have been Marsh
1497
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:20,619
gas a little bit of swamp light appears
1498
01:11:20,619 --> 01:11:22,900
here it goes out another one appears
1499
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:24,969
over here that goes out and but the
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01:11:24,969 --> 01:11:27,400
illusion is you from a distance is that
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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,960
the objects that moved back and forth
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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,260
the public was absolutely furious and
1503
01:11:32,260 --> 01:11:35,460
the Prescott made fun of it and
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01:11:35,460 --> 01:11:37,000
congressman falled
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01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,060
of Michigan thought he would take action
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01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:44,139
and he calls the public hearings by the
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01:11:44,139 --> 01:11:48,520
Armed Services Committee this matter in
1508
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,860
an exclusive telephone interview the
1509
01:11:50,860 --> 01:11:53,590
late President Gerald Ford confirmed his
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01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:56,580
involvement in the investigation
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01:12:00,780 --> 01:12:07,920
services such an investigation be taken
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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,330
Congress heard testimony from a number
1513
01:12:10,330 --> 01:12:11,100
of witnesses
1514
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:13,989
former Marine Corps Maj Donald Kehoe
1515
01:12:13,989 --> 01:12:16,210
asserted that there was far more to UFOs
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01:12:16,210 --> 01:12:18,639
and swamp gas in fact the Air Force at
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01:12:18,639 --> 01:12:20,500
one time had a top-secret estimate that
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01:12:20,500 --> 01:12:22,449
these things were interplanetary space
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01:12:22,449 --> 01:12:26,199
ships today we have over 10,000 cases of
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01:12:26,199 --> 01:12:29,070
wright-patterson air force base of what
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01:12:29,070 --> 01:12:31,780
646 of these remaining
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01:12:31,780 --> 01:12:33,610
the Air Force has been accused from
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01:12:33,610 --> 01:12:35,949
time-to-time of hiding information about
1524
01:12:35,949 --> 01:12:37,780
UFO what do you have to say to that kind
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01:12:37,780 --> 01:12:38,499
of happened
1526
01:12:38,499 --> 01:12:41,499
these charges are absolutely untrue the
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01:12:41,499 --> 01:12:43,269
Air Force continued to maintain that it
1528
01:12:43,269 --> 01:12:45,249
was hiding nothing and we've always
1529
01:12:45,249 --> 01:12:47,499
honored accredited media when they want
1530
01:12:47,499 --> 01:12:50,530
to investigate a given specific sighting
1531
01:12:50,530 --> 01:12:52,570
there is nothing to have there's nothing
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01:12:52,570 --> 01:12:56,559
to hide at all now this is not an attack
1533
01:12:56,559 --> 01:12:58,269
on the air force spokesman or the
1534
01:12:58,269 --> 01:13:00,249
project spokesman they are simply
1535
01:13:00,249 --> 01:13:01,860
following orders
1536
01:13:01,860 --> 01:13:05,320
to explain away all UFO sightings as
1537
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:06,939
quickly as possible when they become
1538
01:13:06,939 --> 01:13:11,340
public and deny that UFOs really exist
1539
01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:14,769
so it was pressure from Congress that
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01:13:14,769 --> 01:13:17,889
led to the study ended up not being an
1541
01:13:17,889 --> 01:13:22,360
open study will a few days long it ended
1542
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,280
up by being a project given to
1543
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,179
university that lasted 18 months in an
1544
01:13:28,179 --> 01:13:29,349
effort to maintain a neutral
1545
01:13:29,349 --> 01:13:31,510
investigation it was assigned to the
1546
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:35,889
University of Colorado the University
1547
01:13:35,889 --> 01:13:38,349
gathered a team of 11 eminent scientists
1548
01:13:38,349 --> 01:13:40,419
they were to analyze and make public
1549
01:13:40,419 --> 01:13:42,369
their conclusions of the most compelling
1550
01:13:42,369 --> 01:13:45,269
UFO cases
1551
01:13:45,650 --> 01:13:49,349
as reported in the 1968 feature article
1552
01:13:49,349 --> 01:13:51,389
published by Look magazine the
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01:13:51,389 --> 01:13:53,340
university study was doomed from the
1554
01:13:53,340 --> 01:13:57,239
beginning the project leader dr. Edward
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01:13:57,239 --> 01:13:59,280
Condon appeared to be biased from the
1556
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,170
start in February of 1967 he stated my
1557
01:14:04,170 --> 01:14:05,820
attitude right now is that there's
1558
01:14:05,820 --> 01:14:09,659
nothing to it he added but I'm not
1559
01:14:09,659 --> 01:14:11,099
supposed to reach a conclusion for
1560
01:14:11,099 --> 01:14:15,300
another year the look article goes on to
1561
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:17,760
describe how two scientists were fired
1562
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,010
over a leaked memo written by one of the
1563
01:14:20,010 --> 01:14:23,519
project's managers this memo dictated
1564
01:14:23,519 --> 01:14:25,289
what the project's conclusions were to
1565
01:14:25,289 --> 01:14:29,610
be before the project even started the
1566
01:14:29,610 --> 01:14:32,190
leaked memo read the trick would be I
1567
01:14:32,190 --> 01:14:34,409
think to describe the project so that to
1568
01:14:34,409 --> 01:14:36,329
the public it would appear a totally
1569
01:14:36,329 --> 01:14:38,550
objective study but to the scientific
1570
01:14:38,550 --> 01:14:40,739
community would present the image of a
1571
01:14:40,739 --> 01:14:42,690
group of non-believers trying their best
1572
01:14:42,690 --> 01:14:44,880
to be objective but having an almost
1573
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:49,489
zero expectation of finding a saucer
1574
01:14:50,989 --> 01:14:54,239
when representative J Edward Roush read
1575
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:56,369
the leaked memo and all the controversy
1576
01:14:56,369 --> 01:14:59,070
published by Look magazine he urged
1577
01:14:59,070 --> 01:15:00,769
Congress to take over the investigation
1578
01:15:00,769 --> 01:15:03,630
because he challenged the objectivity of
1579
01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:09,929
the study his plea was ignored left
1580
01:15:09,929 --> 01:15:12,329
unchecked the project chairman announced
1581
01:15:12,329 --> 01:15:14,429
the conclusions to the anxiously waiting
1582
01:15:14,429 --> 01:15:19,949
press dr. Condon stated that nothing has
1583
01:15:19,949 --> 01:15:21,900
come from the study of UFOs that is
1584
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:26,429
added to scientific knowledge it is not
1585
01:15:26,429 --> 01:15:30,929
a fair an accurate a summary of the body
1586
01:15:30,929 --> 01:15:33,440
of the report which a summary should be
1587
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:36,869
three decades later dr. Peter stork an
1588
01:15:36,869 --> 01:15:38,900
astrophysicist from Stanford University
1589
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,369
takes a close look at some of the case
1590
01:15:41,369 --> 01:15:43,230
studies never mentioned in Condon
1591
01:15:43,230 --> 01:15:46,139
summary the Condon report is really a
1592
01:15:46,139 --> 01:15:48,420
complex document if you're looking for
1593
01:15:48,420 --> 01:15:50,400
what they thought a wild-goose chases
1594
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,769
you'll find those if you're looking to
1595
01:15:52,769 --> 01:15:54,480
see whether there are any intriguing
1596
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:57,480
cases that were really challenges to the
1597
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:57,890
star
1598
01:15:57,890 --> 01:16:00,230
you'll find them and if you want to see
1599
01:16:00,230 --> 01:16:02,090
whether the staff thought anything was
1600
01:16:02,090 --> 01:16:04,520
what they call quotes a real UFO you'll
1601
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,310
find that two there are two radio visual
1602
01:16:07,310 --> 01:16:11,260
cases analyzed by McDonald and Thayer in
1603
01:16:11,260 --> 01:16:13,790
conclusion although conventional or
1604
01:16:13,790 --> 01:16:15,920
natural explanations certainly cannot be
1605
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,740
ruled out the probability of such seems
1606
01:16:18,740 --> 01:16:21,080
low in this case and the probability
1607
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,240
that at least one genuine UFO was
1608
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,950
involved appears to be fairly high
1609
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:30,350
another case summary was that this must
1610
01:16:30,350 --> 01:16:32,630
remain as one of the most puzzling radar
1611
01:16:32,630 --> 01:16:35,150
cases on record and no conclusion is
1612
01:16:35,150 --> 01:16:39,050
possible at this time and there are two
1613
01:16:39,050 --> 01:16:41,330
photographic cases analyzed by William
1614
01:16:41,330 --> 01:16:43,340
Hartmann who he thought that possible
1615
01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:47,210
UFOs this is one of the few UFO reports
1616
01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:49,300
in which all factors investigated
1617
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:51,860
geometric psychological and physical
1618
01:16:51,860 --> 01:16:54,080
appear to be consistent with the
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01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,450
assertion that an extraordinary flying
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01:16:56,450 --> 01:17:00,440
object silvery metallic disc shaped tens
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01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:02,720
of meters in diameter and evidently
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01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,240
artificial flew within sight of two
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01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,330
witnesses but they do not feature at all
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01:17:08,330 --> 01:17:11,240
in conda's summary part the most people
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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,730
read the part of the press referred to
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01:17:13,730 --> 01:17:16,880
were the few pages of conclude of
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01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,330
recommendations and about one chapter a
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01:17:20,330 --> 01:17:22,400
short chapter of summary that were
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01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,730
written entirely by condom while the
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01:17:25,730 --> 01:17:27,440
panel of scientists conducted an
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01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:29,660
objective investigation as requested by
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01:17:29,660 --> 01:17:32,180
Congress the project leader appeared to
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01:17:32,180 --> 01:17:34,250
have ignored the data and asserted that
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01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:37,300
there was nothing to the UFO phenomenon
1635
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:42,620
on December 18th 1969 the new york times
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01:17:42,620 --> 01:17:45,440
quoted dr. Condon saying it was a bunch
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01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,480
of damn nonsense and that he was sorry
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01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:49,130
that he ever got involved with such
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01:17:49,130 --> 01:17:51,510
foolishness
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01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:54,250
Condon's thirty-year-old conclusions are
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01:17:54,250 --> 01:17:56,890
still being used today as a benchmark to
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01:17:56,890 --> 01:17:58,800
prevent further official scientific
1643
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,800
investigation
1644
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:05,520
one of the problems with the so-called
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01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,070
UFO research by debunkers is they ask
1646
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:09,900
the wrong question their question is
1647
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:12,390
what are UFOs really what they're saying
1648
01:18:12,390 --> 01:18:14,969
is are all UFOs alien spacecraft need
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01:18:14,969 --> 01:18:17,130
answers of courses No the proper
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01:18:17,130 --> 01:18:19,880
question is are any
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[Music]
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01:18:37,630 --> 01:18:42,800
[Music]
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01:18:49,300 --> 01:18:56,080
[Music]
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01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,130
[Music]
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01:19:01,130 --> 01:19:04,229
[Applause]
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01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,800
my it was you know it was shaped like a
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01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,080
saucer I hate to use those trite terms
1658
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,970
but that's what it was shaped like I
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01:19:20,970 --> 01:19:22,770
looked it up and all of a sudden there
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01:19:22,770 --> 01:19:27,060
was this you know gotta say it flying
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01:19:27,060 --> 01:19:30,930
saucer you know kind of looking like it
1662
01:19:30,930 --> 01:19:33,420
was not particularly far above us if you
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01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:35,970
look at that tree limb it seems to me
1664
01:19:35,970 --> 01:19:38,520
that when it floated across the road it
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01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,040
was just about that far away you saw
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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,630
that it was actually moving but the fact
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01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:47,330
was it was nothing we we had at the time
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01:19:47,330 --> 01:19:50,240
could could fit the description size
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01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:56,720
shape or performance of this craft
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01:20:07,410 --> 01:20:18,129
[Music]
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01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:23,350
[Music]
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01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:27,420
it appears that many people in power are
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01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:29,580
being kept out of the loop regarding the
1674
01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:32,760
UFO phenomenon at the same time covert
1675
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,470
operations being conducted by the
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01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:36,870
military-industrial complex seemed to
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01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:40,640
have escaped government supervision
1678
01:20:41,810 --> 01:20:44,120
in the council's of government we must
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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:46,550
guard against the acquisition of
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01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:48,800
unwarranted influence whether sought or
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01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,290
unsought by the military-industrial
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01:20:51,290 --> 01:20:54,800
complex in his farewell address to the
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01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:55,190
nation
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01:20:55,190 --> 01:20:56,960
President Eisenhower cautioned the
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01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,640
public about the relationship between
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01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,010
the US military and the industrial
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01:21:01,010 --> 01:21:03,320
sector which supplies the military with
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01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,080
weaponry and equipment Eisenhower felt
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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:07,880
that if gone unchecked the
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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,160
military-industrial complex would become
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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,950
too powerful the potential for the
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01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:14,840
disastrous rise of misplaced power
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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:19,100
exists and will persist we must never
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01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:20,540
let the weight of this combination
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01:21:20,540 --> 01:21:22,460
endanger our liberties or democratic
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01:21:22,460 --> 01:21:26,960
processes I think he was telling us the
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01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,850
military-industrial complex will stick
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01:21:28,850 --> 01:21:32,210
you in the back if you are not totally
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01:21:32,210 --> 01:21:35,510
vigilant and I think he felt like he had
1700
01:21:35,510 --> 01:21:37,190
not been vigilant I think he felt like
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01:21:37,190 --> 01:21:40,070
he trusted too many people Brigadier
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01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:41,600
General Steven lovekins
1703
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,580
served under President Eisenhower in the
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01:21:43,580 --> 01:21:47,660
White House army signalling agency he
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01:21:47,660 --> 01:21:49,850
recalls Eisenhower's concern with the
1706
01:21:49,850 --> 01:21:53,660
military-industrial complex he realized
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01:21:53,660 --> 01:21:56,510
that he was losing control he realized
1708
01:21:56,510 --> 01:21:59,410
that this this the phenomenon of
1709
01:21:59,410 --> 01:22:02,900
whatever it was that that we were faced
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01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:05,720
with was not going to be in the best
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01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,360
hands and that that those were them as
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01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,480
far as I can remember that was the
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01:22:10,480 --> 01:22:13,700
expression that was used it's not going
1714
01:22:13,700 --> 01:22:16,900
to be in the best hands
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01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:21,650
almost as great as the mystery
1716
01:22:21,650 --> 01:22:24,020
surrounding the origin of UFOs is the
1717
01:22:24,020 --> 01:22:26,270
wall of denial encountered even by the
1718
01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:32,030
most powerful citizens in the land in
1719
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:35,060
October of 1969 President Jimmy Carter
1720
01:22:35,060 --> 01:22:37,040
who was then governor of Georgia had a
1721
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,950
UFO sighting he filed a report with the
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01:22:39,950 --> 01:22:41,750
National investigations committee on
1723
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:45,050
aerial phenomena in the report he
1724
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:46,480
described a sharply outlined
1725
01:22:46,480 --> 01:22:49,100
self-luminous object about the size of
1726
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:53,930
the moon it maneuvered silently in front
1727
01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:57,980
of ten witnesses at a recent book tour
1728
01:22:57,980 --> 01:23:00,110
we asked President Jimmy Carter about
1729
01:23:00,110 --> 01:23:12,290
his sighting disappeared during Jimmy
1730
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:14,030
Carter's presidential campaign he
1731
01:23:14,030 --> 01:23:15,770
promised to make public what the
1732
01:23:15,770 --> 01:23:19,340
government knew about UFOs in an effort
1733
01:23:19,340 --> 01:23:20,990
to fulfill this promise President
1734
01:23:20,990 --> 01:23:23,360
Carter's scientific adviser Frank press
1735
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,970
wrote a letter requesting that NASA lead
1736
01:23:25,970 --> 01:23:27,860
the investigations into the UFO
1737
01:23:27,860 --> 01:23:34,280
phenomena when news of this pending
1738
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,260
investigation reached Air Force Colonel
1739
01:23:36,260 --> 01:23:40,040
Charles Sen he wrote NASA in closing he
1740
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,380
stated I sincerely hope you are
1741
01:23:42,380 --> 01:23:44,510
successful in preventing a reopening of
1742
01:23:44,510 --> 01:23:47,770
UFO investigations
1743
01:23:48,249 --> 01:23:51,019
whatever activity is going on to the
1744
01:23:51,019 --> 01:23:53,929
extent that it is a clandestine group it
1745
01:23:53,929 --> 01:23:57,229
croisé a government group a cause a
1746
01:23:57,229 --> 01:24:02,839
private group it is without any type as
1747
01:24:02,839 --> 01:24:05,479
far as I can tell of high-level
1748
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:08,269
government oversight and that is a great
1749
01:24:08,269 --> 01:24:12,079
concern in December of 1977 NASA
1750
01:24:12,079 --> 01:24:14,209
officially declined President Carter's
1751
01:24:14,209 --> 01:24:16,819
request proposing that it take no steps
1752
01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:19,129
to establish a research activity in this
1753
01:24:19,129 --> 01:24:25,429
area did you ask me you a president yes
1754
01:24:25,429 --> 01:24:27,199
but there's a lot of different answers
1755
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:34,639
and nobody knows who has proposed the
1756
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:36,139
American Broadcasting Company and
1757
01:24:36,139 --> 01:24:37,699
affiliated stations present headline
1758
01:24:37,699 --> 01:24:40,489
edition with Taylor grant the 509 to
1759
01:24:40,489 --> 01:24:42,499
Tomic Bomb Group headquarters at Roswell
1760
01:24:42,499 --> 01:24:44,899
New Mexico reports that it has received
1761
01:24:44,899 --> 01:24:47,059
one of the discs which landed on a ranch
1762
01:24:47,059 --> 01:24:49,129
outside Roswell Colonel William
1763
01:24:49,129 --> 01:24:50,629
Blanchard of the Roswell Air Base
1764
01:24:50,629 --> 01:24:52,729
refuses to give details of what the
1765
01:24:52,729 --> 01:24:55,249
flying disc looked like New Mexico
1766
01:24:55,249 --> 01:24:57,709
congressman Steven Schiff was pressed by
1767
01:24:57,709 --> 01:24:59,719
his constituents into making inquiries
1768
01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:02,329
regarding the Roswell incident I think a
1769
01:25:02,329 --> 01:25:03,379
number of people getting their
1770
01:25:03,379 --> 01:25:06,199
information from news stories in in not
1771
01:25:06,199 --> 01:25:08,569
in all cases but in many cases are not
1772
01:25:08,569 --> 01:25:12,019
getting all of the information in a 1997
1773
01:25:12,019 --> 01:25:14,449
radio interview he recalls what happened
1774
01:25:14,449 --> 01:25:15,919
when he made inquiries with the
1775
01:25:15,919 --> 01:25:18,019
Department of Defense the first response
1776
01:25:18,019 --> 01:25:20,479
I got was a bit of a terse response from
1777
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,510
a colonel in the Air Force the letter
1778
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:26,419
just said we've referred your request
1779
01:25:26,419 --> 01:25:27,919
for information to the National Archives
1780
01:25:27,919 --> 01:25:31,039
with really no further explanation and I
1781
01:25:31,039 --> 01:25:34,089
found that unusual at the very least
1782
01:25:34,089 --> 01:25:36,379
after a second attempt with the
1783
01:25:36,379 --> 01:25:38,209
Department of Defense congressman Schiff
1784
01:25:38,209 --> 01:25:39,859
was again referred to the National
1785
01:25:39,859 --> 01:25:41,250
Archives
1786
01:25:41,250 --> 01:25:43,780
and I got a response from them that said
1787
01:25:43,780 --> 01:25:46,180
we have no information about the Roswell
1788
01:25:46,180 --> 01:25:48,700
incident and further they added an note
1789
01:25:48,700 --> 01:25:50,320
that said we've received a great number
1790
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,690
of requests for information I thought to
1791
01:25:52,690 --> 01:25:54,580
myself well I'm not surprised I mean if
1792
01:25:54,580 --> 01:25:55,690
the Defense Department is sending
1793
01:25:55,690 --> 01:25:58,630
everybody the National Archives that
1794
01:25:58,630 --> 01:26:00,700
they'd be getting a lot of requests and
1795
01:26:00,700 --> 01:26:02,500
frankly I felt this was a runaround in
1796
01:26:02,500 --> 01:26:05,230
other words in my view the Defense
1797
01:26:05,230 --> 01:26:08,560
Department sent me to another agency on
1798
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,490
my request
1799
01:26:09,490 --> 01:26:11,320
knowing that agency would not have any
1800
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,220
information evidently former director of
1801
01:26:15,220 --> 01:26:18,160
the FBI j.edgar hoover was also denied
1802
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,200
access as he stated in his own
1803
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:24,160
handwriting in July of 1947 we must
1804
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,560
insist upon full access to disks
1805
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,440
recovered Hoover continued the army
1806
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:31,030
grabbed it and wouldn't let the bureau
1807
01:26:31,030 --> 01:26:33,460
have it for cursory examination
1808
01:26:33,460 --> 01:26:38,359
[Music]
1809
01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:42,310
we will stand against the forces a more
1810
01:26:42,310 --> 01:26:44,200
recent inquiry was apparently made by
1811
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,780
President Bill Clinton let us stand up
1812
01:26:46,780 --> 01:26:49,450
and talk against it he asked associate
1813
01:26:49,450 --> 01:26:51,190
attorney general webster hubbell to
1814
01:26:51,190 --> 01:26:55,060
investigate web Hubbell and Bill Clinton
1815
01:26:55,060 --> 01:26:56,230
were old friends
1816
01:26:56,230 --> 01:26:59,340
in his book friends in high places
1817
01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:01,900
Hubbell recalls a special favor that
1818
01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:03,670
President Clinton made after he first
1819
01:27:03,670 --> 01:27:10,360
came into office webby said if I put you
1820
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,220
over at justice I want you to find out
1821
01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:14,530
the answers to two questions for me one
1822
01:27:14,530 --> 01:27:18,820
who killed JFK and two are their UFOs he
1823
01:27:18,820 --> 01:27:21,190
was dead serious Hubbell had looked into
1824
01:27:21,190 --> 01:27:23,170
both but wasn't satisfied with the
1825
01:27:23,170 --> 01:27:27,400
answers he was getting when we asked mr.
1826
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,770
Hubbell about this incident he replied I
1827
01:27:29,770 --> 01:27:31,560
was wondering if you by any chance
1828
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:35,550
recall anything further at this point
1829
01:27:35,550 --> 01:27:40,810
put everything in the best you can take
1830
01:27:40,810 --> 01:27:46,300
mr. Clarke we contacted President Bill
1831
01:27:46,300 --> 01:27:48,850
Clinton and received this letter it is a
1832
01:27:48,850 --> 01:27:51,370
response from NASA stating that no
1833
01:27:51,370 --> 01:27:52,930
government agency is currently
1834
01:27:52,930 --> 01:27:55,500
responsible for investigating UFOs
1835
01:27:55,500 --> 01:27:57,760
because there is no factual evidence
1836
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,550
that alien life exists on other planets
1837
01:28:00,550 --> 01:28:05,530
or that UFOs are related to aliens see
1838
01:28:05,530 --> 01:28:06,940
this is what you'll be up against who
1839
01:28:06,940 --> 01:28:08,860
you gonna see the moment you go see
1840
01:28:08,860 --> 01:28:10,570
somebody so we can't tell you it's top
1841
01:28:10,570 --> 01:28:10,990
secret
1842
01:28:10,990 --> 01:28:13,000
what are you gonna do you have to walk
1843
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,010
out so you see how the government
1844
01:28:15,010 --> 01:28:18,490
operates how they can you say you should
1845
01:28:18,490 --> 01:28:20,250
go there and answer who you gonna go to
1846
01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:22,780
even with what the experience I had been
1847
01:28:22,780 --> 01:28:24,490
on top of the government all the years I
1848
01:28:24,490 --> 01:28:26,520
couldn't tell you it'll go see
1849
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,629
[Music]
1850
01:28:34,179 --> 01:28:38,569
Paris 1999 the most important UFO study
1851
01:28:38,569 --> 01:28:41,389
in recent decades is made public this
1852
01:28:41,389 --> 01:28:43,369
was presented to the President and Prime
1853
01:28:43,369 --> 01:28:45,859
Minister of France urging diplomatic
1854
01:28:45,859 --> 01:28:48,229
action with the US through the European
1855
01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:51,259
Union the report was compiled by the
1856
01:28:51,259 --> 01:28:53,449
committee group which investigated over
1857
01:28:53,449 --> 01:28:57,049
500 UFO cases from around the world this
1858
01:28:57,049 --> 01:28:59,629
report which came from a high-level
1859
01:28:59,629 --> 01:29:01,579
group of French military officers
1860
01:29:01,579 --> 01:29:03,829
primarily as well as some scientists is
1861
01:29:03,829 --> 01:29:08,689
the most strongly worded Pro UFO
1862
01:29:08,689 --> 01:29:10,849
document ever written in any language
1863
01:29:10,849 --> 01:29:13,369
that has been made public by a group of
1864
01:29:13,369 --> 01:29:17,479
this stature the cometa group consists
1865
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,309
of generals and admirals of the french
1866
01:29:19,309 --> 01:29:22,129
military as well as top-level scientists
1867
01:29:22,129 --> 01:29:25,219
such as andre LeBeau director of CNES
1868
01:29:25,219 --> 01:29:28,519
the french equivalent of nasa general
1869
01:29:28,519 --> 01:29:29,629
bernard Norland
1870
01:29:29,629 --> 01:29:31,549
former commander French tactical air
1871
01:29:31,549 --> 01:29:35,119
force and jean-claude vebe the former
1872
01:29:35,119 --> 01:29:37,039
director of the observatory at lyon
1873
01:29:37,039 --> 01:29:40,099
france title of the report is ufos and
1874
01:29:40,099 --> 01:29:43,879
defense what must we prepare for now
1875
01:29:43,879 --> 01:29:46,899
it's 92 pages to text after that title
1876
01:29:46,899 --> 01:29:49,459
the comater group received data
1877
01:29:49,459 --> 01:29:51,289
collected by numerous scientific
1878
01:29:51,289 --> 01:29:54,019
agencies much of its content was based
1879
01:29:54,019 --> 01:29:56,239
on reports from military and civilian
1880
01:29:56,239 --> 01:29:58,759
pilots this official document was an
1881
01:29:58,759 --> 01:30:01,339
internal military investigation that was
1882
01:30:01,339 --> 01:30:03,590
never intended for the general public
1883
01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:04,860
[Music]
1884
01:30:04,860 --> 01:30:07,620
the report also contains a selection of
1885
01:30:07,620 --> 01:30:12,390
photographs these photos were subjected
1886
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:14,580
to scientific analysis in an effort to
1887
01:30:14,580 --> 01:30:17,510
determine authenticity
1888
01:30:19,050 --> 01:30:26,799
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Kumada also examined physical evidence
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such as plant and soil samples taken
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from alleged landing sites one such case
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occurred on January 8th 1981 in southern
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France there was only a single witness
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to that event he was working in his
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small phone late one afternoon he heard
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a whistling sound he looked up and just
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above the trees was this strange craft
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it descended and landed 30 feet away in
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his garden the former city goes opposite
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to us yet
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Luna thought he told his wife about an
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evening and she thought he was joking
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they went back in the morning to look up
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the area and they found traces on the
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ground
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who vomited on comments every vanilla
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led by my light on Cooper buku buku
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d'fwan AC scientist came out in a week
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or two and they took further samples of
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soils they also took samples of plants
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and analysis that soil and plants with
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very interesting they're carried out
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quite professionally and there was
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evidence of compression of the soil and
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there was a clear evidence of damage to
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the plants the kind of injury that could
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happen because of heating due to
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microwaves for instance so there was
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good physical evidence in that case and
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moreover there were two kinds of
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physical evidence injury damaged the
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soil and damaged the plants despite the
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physical evidence the small town of
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TransAm province labeled the farmer as a
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flying saucer fanatic Papa d dkc2 has a
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coop of all antica City he got his show
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sir wait he said Posey dirty but a
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number of cases analyzed by the comater
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group came from military pilots involved
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in UFO incidents
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one of the most dramatic cases occurred
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in September of 1976 when a phantom f-4
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jet flown by a pilot from the Iranian
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Royal Air Force attempted to fire a
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missile at a UFO
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in the same instant the pilots Fire
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Control Council and radio went dead at
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this point a smaller craft emerged from
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the main UFO and circled around the jet
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the pilot then took evasive action and
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power to his controls returned he
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escaped unharmed in this report they say
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in effect UFOs are real
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ergo the extra-terrestrial hypothesis
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may in some cases be the best or only
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real answer and cannot be ignored
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they are technological they do things
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that we probably can't do and all that
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being said this obviously constitutes a
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major concern for global defense and
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security when the report was completed
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it was given to a number of leading
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French journalists one of these was
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Bernard to know the editor of VSD VSD is
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a French weekly magazine like time-life
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we are a general press publication it's
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not specialised in UFO sightings at all
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the committee group allowed VSD to
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publish the report provided it was not
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manipulated in any way if the public was
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aware of the committee report then the
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committee report was not going to
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disappear and any kind of official or
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semi official a dark hole so to speak
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then the committee report became a
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public fact and it remains a public fact
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to date the report has not been
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officially published outside of France
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and so far only one article published in
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The Boston Globe has appeared in the US
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press I applied a very high standard to
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the story because of its controversial
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nature
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I was basically retelling what the
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generals and the other people I
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concluded in their report I looked at
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government documents that dealt with the
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issue of national security and UFOs
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which was what the generals were dealing
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with in France despite her thoroughness
1981
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Leslie Kane encountered much resistance
1982
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in getting the story published I went to
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many papers many of whom had published
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within the past people laughed hung up
1985
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the phone the subject matter is
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ridiculed in the media and so even
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though I was dealing with facts in this
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article and high-level journalism they
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weren't interested because of the
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subject matter this was very really
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really frustrating because I thought
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this was an extremely important story
1993
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and I know that it was newsworthy most
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Americans have never heard of it the
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group hasn't published an English
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translation that anybody can get ahold
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of and they seem to be on the trail of
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saying hey you Americans you're holding
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back technology that you've learned from
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flying saucers from your allies so
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that's a message to the Pentagon not to
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the public they know the Pentagon knows
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through people so it's an important
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report for what it says no other report
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with names with people with excellent
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cases this is not anonymous reporting
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now has come close to taking a strongest
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stand that some UFOs are
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extraterrestrial spacecraft in 2007 the
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French National Space Agency CNES
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released a half-century of previously
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classified UFO reports a group calling
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itself the disclosure project is in
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Washington this week calling on Congress
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to hold public hearings on the u.s.
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though really life on other planets some
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former military and government personnel
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say they have preferred people who claim
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they have seen UFOs is calling on
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Congress to open hearings plan to do
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with their information they hope
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Congress and President Bush take notice
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before a crowd of believers and skeptics
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with cameras rolling members of a group
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calling itself the disclosure project
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stood up one by one to tell personal
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experiences involving what they say are
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UFOs I have with me the voice tapes of
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the controllers that were involved I
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have a copy of the original of the video
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that we took which is rather interesting
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and it's called the UFO incident Japan
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1648 of Lee the number was that happened
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on November the 18th 1986 when it was
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all done the CIA yeah one of the CIA men
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told the people they would else want a
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secrecy that this meeting never happened
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and this event never had
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we have the disclosure project was
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formed by dr. Steven Greer in 1993 since
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then he has gathered together over 200
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military and civilian witnesses who
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experienced UFO events during their
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official duties we had ground visual
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ground radar airborne visual and
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airborne radar confirmation of some of
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these sightings witnesses ranged from
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FAA controllers to military
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communication specialists and I can
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clearly recall seeing a message that
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went through my crypto Center which said
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that a UFO UFO had crashed on the island
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of Spitsbergen Norway and the team of
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scientists were coming to investigate it
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many witnesses provided official
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documentation of their event out of the
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National Archives I have the 18-page
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official Navy and Air Force report so
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the truth is here I will testify under
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oath before Congress that everything
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that I have said is true
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I think it's time to open the books in
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October of 2002 former White House chief
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of staff John Podesta urged the release
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of secret government UFO records he
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cited the importance to the public of
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declassifying government documents it's
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time to find out what what the truth
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really is that's out there we ought to
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do it really because it's right we ought
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to do it because the American people
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quite frankly can handle the truth and
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we ought to do it because it's the law
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it's not surprising that government
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officials of this stature are requesting
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the release of official UFO information
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because sightings over major cities
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persist in December 2006 a number of
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United Airlines employees witnessed a
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disc-shaped craft hovering over
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Chicago's O'Hare Airport for two minutes
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the incident was reported in the
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national media
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often in reliable UFO cases the official
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explanation is more unbelievable than
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the event itself I had the evidence that
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the crash didn't happen here I saw one
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but I don't know what disappeared people
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say Mike now you saw a b-2 bomber my
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response was we can land all 40 of our
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b-2 bombers on the wing of that craft I
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would go ahead and feel the craft which
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was world there is a serious possibility
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that we are being visited and have been
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visited for many years by people from
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outer space from other civilizations
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that it behooves us in case some of
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these people in the future or now should
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turn hostile to find out who they are
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where they come from and what they want
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well if the concert we believed yes
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there had been et visitation there had
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been crashed craft there have been
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material and bodies recovered and there
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is some group of people somewhere
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that may or may not be associated with
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government at this point but certainly
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were at one time that have this
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knowledge the thing you have to remember
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is that absolute power corrupts
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absolutely
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when you've got the knowledge and the
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budget nobody looking over your shoulder
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it's a great temptation to think that
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you know best like with the public they
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don't know enough they have a sensible
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opinion that's unfortunate
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yeah can you know Mitchell is upon you
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my new boy a provisional panini onion
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National Terrace matter it has the
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stoical ringing who want to chew up at
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every need Hawaii and never show the
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Prima need for total how many people
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bring a suit that they in a plane eat
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anything but the fact that he did it
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skied apart I just wish that government
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entities that are involved in trying to
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always stop the investigation or or or
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put out some flaky story about some
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observation that was legitimate I don't
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know why people just don't stop and and
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and in government and just sort of you
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know open the books for everybody we all
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have be included it's something that we
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should embrace and not be fearful about
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that's that's how I feel about it since
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the subject is clearly of great interest
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to the public I think that the senator
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community owes it to the public to
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really pay attention to subject and make
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a thorough extensive and careful
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investigation and then share with the
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public whatever they find a story this
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big there's no way it could be kept
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secret from the public what do you say
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to someone like that
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it says that well somebody's kept it
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pretty sickening for quite a while
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if structured craft of unknown origin
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are penetrating our skies the people
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best equipped to know are the military
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and we will provide you with all the
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information that you need numerous
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military witnesses are prepared to
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testify in great detail but need
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immunity from their security oaths
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Congress is currently being lobbied to
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provide a platform for such testimony
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but so far to no avail the discovery
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that we are being visited by
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extraterrestrials would be one of the
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greatest in human history such a
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discovery would profoundly alter the
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perception of ourselves and our place in
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the universe
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you
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you
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