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>> NARRATOR: They hold America's
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most dangerous criminals...
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>> BOB HOOD: They killed
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officers, they killed
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other inmates.
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You're going to the worst
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of the worst.
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>> NARRATOR: Prisons so
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undercover...
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>> AHILAN ARULANANTHAM:
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Thousands of people have no idea
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that they are walking on top
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of a federal prison.
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>> NARRATOR: So controversial...
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>> MANCOW MULLER: If Americans
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rose up, they have the camps
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ready for us, they have
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the prisons ready for us.
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>> NARRATOR: And so dangerous...
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>> WILL POTTER: People have
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absolutely no idea these places
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exist on American soil
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in our hometowns.
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>> NARRATOR: ...that the details
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of how they operate must be
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locked... up... tight.
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>> ERIC HICKEY: Once you go
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behind closed doors, no one
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knows what happens to you.
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>> NARRATOR: But just what goes
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on behind the stone walls and
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iron bars that the public
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doesn't know?
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And are these facilities really
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hiding deep, dark secrets?
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>> LAURA SULLIVAN: The public
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has really very little idea
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of what's happening behind
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the walls of America's prisons.
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>> NARRATOR: There are those
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who believe in the existence
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of a book.
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A book that contains the most
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highly guarded secrets of the
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United States of America.
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A book... whose very existence
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is known to only a select few.
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But if such a book exists,
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what would it contain?
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Secret locations?
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Secret methods?
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Secret agendas?
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Does there really exist
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America's Book of Secrets?
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>> NARRATOR: Guantanamo Bay
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Detention Camp on the southern
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coast of Cuba,
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700 miles from
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the United States.
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Built in 2002, the American
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military prison also known as
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"Gitmo," has detained nearly 800
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alleged terrorists.
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This notorious site has made
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national headlines for its
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classified operations and the
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dangerous criminals it holds.
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But what many Americans may not
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realize is that there are
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other prisons...
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prisons located on U.S. soil
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that harbor government secrets
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and contain criminals
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just as terrifying as those
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in Guantanamo.
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>> DAVID FATHI: The very most
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secret prisons, I-I would say,
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are super-high security,
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supermax prisons;
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the prisons where the prisoners
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are in their cells locked behind
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a solid steel door for 23
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or 24 hours a day.
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Those are the most out-of-sight
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parts of our criminal
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justice system.
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>> NARRATOR: Florence, Colorado.
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Hidden amidst the scenic Rocky
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Mountains lies the $60-million
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Administrative Maximum
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Facility, or ADX.
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Built in 1994, many believe the
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so-called "Supermax" is the most
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secure prison in
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the United States...
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and possibly even the world.
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>> HOOD: There's only been three
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supermax prisons in history,
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federal supermax prisons:
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Alcatraz, Marion, Illinois,
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and now the current one.
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>> TRACY HARMON: I've worked the
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prison beat for 23 years,
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and Supermax is by far the most
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elite of the prisons.
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It really is very secretive.
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It's been called the "Harvard
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of prisons."
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>> HOOD: The inmates that are at
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the current Supermax facility,
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they killed officers,
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they killed other inmates.
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They're going to the worst
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of the worst.
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Out of the 218,000 to 219,000
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thousand inmates in the federal
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system, the Supermax can only
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hold 490.
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It's not even full.
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You have to earn the right.
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>> ERIC HICKEY: Inmates consider
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themselves to be very
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important people,
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and they've earned this.
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It's like a status symbol
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for them.
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Being in a supermax prison
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makes them feel very special
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in a way.
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>> NARRATOR: The Supermax-- just
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over 100 miles south of Denver--
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is often also referred to as
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a "Clean Version of Hell" and
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the "Alcatraz of the Rockies."
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>> HOOD: As you get closer to
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the prison, you realize there's
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six gun towers, an abundance of
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razor wire, mobile patrols,
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armed officers in those vehicles
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driving around.
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Let's be candid here.
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It's the most secure facility
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in the United States.
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>> NARRATOR: Prisoners at the
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Supermax are so high-profile and
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so dangerous, that their
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transportation into the facility
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warrants extra measures to
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ensure they do not escape.
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>> HOOD: During those
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transports, it could be
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everything from a Black Hawk
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helicopter to chartered planes.
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They're in all kinds of
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shackles, leg irons,
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and belly chains.
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Sometimes electronic devices, so
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if they move and try to escape,
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you can provide them a charge.
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I can't tell you the specifics
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about how many people
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are supervising those moves,
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but they're high-level.
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>> TRACY HARMON: There are
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helicopter-deterrent systems.
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If you tried to fly over with
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a helicopter to extract someone
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from the little yard that they
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have in the center of the
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prison, there are several layers
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of cables that crisscross over
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the yard.
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So nothing's getting out,
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nothing's getting in.
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>> NARRATOR: According to
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insiders, the technology at the
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Supermax surpasses that of any
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federal prison before it,
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making any attempt to escape
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futile.
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>> HARMON: There are motion
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sensors in the floor.
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If anyone managed to work their
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way into the piping or the ducts
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in the building, a motion sensor
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would set off an alarm and the
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officers would know exactly
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where this was happening.
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The other thing about Supermax
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is the master control system is
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located where the inmates would
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never be able to get to it.
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But just in case, there is an
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alarm they can set off that will
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shut down the master control and
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it's taken over at a remote
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location very far away
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from the prison.
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>> NARRATOR: Notorious
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terrorists such as Ramzi Yousef,
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Richard Reid,
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Ted Kaczynski,
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and Eric Rudolph,
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call the Supermax home.
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>> HOOD: If you look down the
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typical cell block, or the
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"range" we call them, you would
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see Sammy "The Bull" Gravano,
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hit man for the mafia, sitting
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next door to a person like
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Robert Hansen, a spy, adjacent
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to, at one time, Timothy McVeigh
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before his execution.
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>> NARRATOR: The cost of housing
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inmates in solitary confinement
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is estimated to be
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$75,000 dollars per inmate
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per year.
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But don't let that price
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fool you.
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Although the Supermax may appear
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to be a high-tech facility,
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this is no luxury hotel.
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>> HOOD: There's nothing fancy.
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They have a cement bed with a
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very small mattress on it.
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There's a desk, but it's a solid
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cement desk.
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Even the chair is solid cement.
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They have a window, but the
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difference is, a four-inch slit
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window as you're peeking out...
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you're not looking at the
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Rockies, you're simply looking
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at, perhaps, the backside of
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another building.
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What we give the inmates beyond
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that: the basics of toothpaste,
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toothbrush, a couple pairs of
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the underwear and the uniform.
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>> NARRATOR: But believe it or
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not, the Supermax is more than
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a holding pen for the some of
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the world's most notorious
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criminal minds.
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It also serves another, more
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secret function.
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One that is considered crucial
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to America's national security.
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>> HOOD: The average prison in
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the United States is there to
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contain and be a deterrent to
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others.
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The Supermax has another mission
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that's not often discussed.
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We're holding people that have
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really impacted our lives.
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So there's intelligence
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gathering.
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We're involved with the Joint
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Terrorist Task Force.
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We're involved with national
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security agencies: FBI, Secret
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Service, the whole nine yards,
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because some inmates would love
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to still run the world from
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inside the prison, so our job is
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to minimize that, if not just
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totally stop it.
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We're also listening to the
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conversations, we listen live
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time.
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We record and the reason being
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we don't want some plot to occur
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out in the world and then we go
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back and do a postmortem.
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That's a reactive response.
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The intention of the Supermax is
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to be so proactive that we're
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connecting the dots.
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Terrorism's here to stay, but
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there might be a point in time
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we're able to say, here's some
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lessons learned from people
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within the Supermax that maybe
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did save that building or that
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bridge or that tunnel.
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They're the type of things I
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couldn't discuss, but I could
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tell you there's a lot of neat
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information that comes from the
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Supermax.
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>> NARRATOR: While the Supermax
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holds some of the most savage
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criminals in the United States,
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there are still other maximum
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security prisons, prisons that
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hold inmates considered so
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dangerous that their identities
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are kept secret... even from
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their fellow inmates.
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>> NARRATOR: Butner, North
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Carolina.
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May 2008.
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In the darkness of pre-dawn
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hours at the Federal
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Correctional Institution, guards
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enter inmate Andrew Stepanian's
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cell.
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Without any explanation, they
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shackle the 29-year-old and
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remove him from the facility.
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>> ANDREW STEPANIAN: They put,
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like, a leather, big, thick,
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weight-lifter-style belt around
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my waist with a ring.
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They put my handcuffs through
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the ring and then around this
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ring, they put a black box with
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another key and-and padlock.
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They then cuffed my feet
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together.
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So I was really pretty much
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incapacitated.
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>> NARRATOR: Within hours,
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Stepanian was covertly
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transported to a private plane
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with 30 other inmates.
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But why?
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Just what did this prisoner do
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to warrant such an unusual and
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secret transfer?
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>> STEPANIAN: I was sentenced
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to 36 months in Federal Prison,
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because I violated a law called
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the Animal Enterprise Protection
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Act of 1992.
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(protestors chanting)
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I caused more than $10,000 in
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financial damages to businesses
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that used animals for research.
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I was designated as a terrorist
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in the Federal Bureau of
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Prisons.
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>> NARRATOR: But why was Andrew
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Stepanian-- who had served most
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of his term at a
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medium security prison--
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suddenly moved in the early
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morning hours to a place known
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as a CMU, or Communication
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Management Unit, a prison where
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some of the country's greatest
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security threats are kept under
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constant surveillance?
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>> FATHI: The Communications
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Management Units, or CMUs, are
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two units that the federal
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prison system established in
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2006 and 2007.
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There's one at the federal
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prison in Terre Haute, Indiana
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and another at the prison in
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Marion, Illinois.
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They exist to very radically
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restrict any kind of
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communication between prisoners
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and the outside world.
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>> STEPANIAN: They were
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developed secretively by the
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former Director of the Bureau of
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Prisons, named Harley Lappin.
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Harley Lappin introduced, uh,
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in about 2004, a plan to
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Congress to develop something
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called the CTU, Counter
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Terrorism Unit.
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>> CONGRESSMAN: Objection!
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A motion to reconsider is laid
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upon the table.
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>> STEPANIAN: Both Democrats and
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Republicans struck it down,
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because it kind of smacked of
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racial and ethnic
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discrimination.
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>> NARRATOR: In spite of the
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bi-partisan objections, the
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Federal Bureau of Prisons opened
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these CMUs and started filling
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them.
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But why?
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Were the prisons created to
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serve another, more secret
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government agenda?
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>> WILL POTTER: Within those
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prison yards and prison walls,
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you have a separate unit for
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people that the government
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describes as having, quote,
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"inspirational significance."
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I would argue that's a euphemism
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for political prisoners.
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>> NARRATOR: But with only five
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and a half months remaining in
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his sentence, why was a
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relatively harmless prisoner
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like Andrew Stepanian
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transferred to such a maximum
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security facility and placed in
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the company of convicted
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terrorists?
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>> FATHI: What's very concerning
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about the CMUs is that over...
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over two-thirds of the prisoner
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population are Arab or Muslim
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prisoners.
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Despite the fact that Arabs and
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Muslims are a tiny fraction of
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the entire U.S. prison
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population.
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So it certainly raises, uh, the
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possibility that people are
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being sent there, uh, for
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discriminatory reasons.
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>> DANIEL VASQUEZ: All prisons
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have missions.
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The Communication Management
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Unit is designed to house
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individuals that are terrorists
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and are a threat to our
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communities and that's their
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mission.
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The federal government began to
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see continued communication with
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other terrorist links and
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decided to concentrate these
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individuals into a CMU.
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>> NARRATOR: Confused and
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frightened, inmate Andrew
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Stepanian wondered just why he
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had been sent to a prison where
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the majority of prisoners were
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Muslim and were involved in
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criminal acts of terror on a far
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greater scale than his own.
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And then, one day, Stepanian
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learned he was being used as
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what's called a "balancer."
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>> STEPANIAN: I first heard the
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term "balancer" from a guard.
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While I was doing my laundry,
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a guard stopped next to the
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washing machine, and he said,
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"Kid, I want you to keep your
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head up.
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You're only here for balance."
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He says, "You're not like the
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rest of these Muslim guys.
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You're only here for balance.
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You're gonna go home soon
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enough."
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If that was truthful, if that
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guard was privy to information
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that I was just there to offset
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the racial disparity, um, that
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is somewhat eye-opening.
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VASQUEZ: Is it politically
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correct?
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Probably not.
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Is it receiving a lot of legal
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scrutiny?
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Yes, it is.
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So, I think they began to
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identify terrorists that have
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been convicted in the United
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States.
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They're there to take the
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pressure of litigation off by
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bringing in those other
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individuals that are not Muslim
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that seemed to be balancing that
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population.
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>> POTTER: There's been national
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discussion about places like
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Guantanamo Bay, but most people
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have absolutely no idea
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that these places exist on
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American soil, in our hometowns.
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They're prisons within prisons
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that are some ways even worse
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than the most extreme prison
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units in the country.
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>> NARRATOR: Does the United
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States government really operate
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secret terrorist prisons?
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Prisons that serve as "American
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Gitmos," and whose populations
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are overwhelmingly Muslim?
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And are non-Muslims like Andrew
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Stepanian really used as
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so-called "balancers" in an
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effort to avoid charges of
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racism and racial profiling on
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the part of the government?
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Men like Andrew Stepanian
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believe the answer is yes.
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But there are also those who
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believe there is yet
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another, perhaps more shocking
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agenda involving America's
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prisons.
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One that involves trading human
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beings for cold, hard cash.
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>> NARRATOR: Wilkes-Barre,
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Pennsylvania. 2003.
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At the Luzerne County
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Courthouse, 17-year-old Edward
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Kenzakoski, stands before Judge
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Mark Ciavarella Jr., accused of
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possession of marijuana
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that was not even his.
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In just minutes, Kenzakoski is
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shackled and sentenced to 30
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days in a youth jail and four
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months of boot camp.
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>> ALEX FRIEDMANN: You have kids
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who were literally writing on
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their desks or posting inane
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comments on Facebook, and they
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were putting them in these
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secure juvenile facilities.
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And that can have a-a
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devastating impact on a child's
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life, to lock them up like a
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hardened criminal.
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>> NARRATOR: In 2008, the
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Federal Bureau of Investigation
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discovered that Judge
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Ciavarella, and fellow Judge
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Michael Conohan, had been hiding
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a secret for years.
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>> FATHI: A juvenile court
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judge was actually accepting
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money from private prison
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operators and then sentencing
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children who came before him
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in his courtroom to be
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incarcerated in those prisons.
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>> NARRATOR: In total, the
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judges received over $2 million
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in kickbacks from the builders
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and developers of two
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for-profit juvenile detention
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centers.
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The unimaginable crime rocked
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the nation and was coined
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"the Kids for Cash scandal."
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>> HICKEY: They're marked for
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life and they're traumatized for
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life because a judge wanted to
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make a little extra money.
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>> NARRATOR: In June 2010,
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former prisoner Edward
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Kenzakoski committed suicide.
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Friends and family say it was
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the life-altering experiences in
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juvenile detention that haunted
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him, and ultimately sent him
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to his grave.
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On August 11, 2011, Judge Mark
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Ciavarella was sentenced to 28
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years in jail for 12 counts that
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included racketeering and
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conspiracy.
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>> My kid's not here, he's dead!
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Because of him!
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Do you remember me?
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Do you remember me?
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Do you remember my son?
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An all-star wrestler, he's gone!
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He shot himself in the heart.
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You scumbag!
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>> NARRATOR: On September 23,
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2011, Judge Michael Conohan was
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sentenced to 17 and a half years
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in federal prison after he also
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pled guilty to racketeering and
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conspiracy.
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But was this Kids for Cash
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scandal an isolated incident?
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Or might it be just the tip of
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the iceberg, suggesting even
593
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more profitable, secret prison
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agendas?
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August 14, 2013.
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The Economist reports that the
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United States, a country made
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up of only five percent of the
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global population, actually
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imprisons 25% of the world's
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inmates.
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And shockingly, about one in
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every 107 Americans
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is incarcerated.
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>> ALEX JONES: The prison
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population in the United States
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has surged 30% in the last
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decade alone.
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The United States has the
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largest prison population in the
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world, more than China that has
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over a billion people.
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>> NARRATOR: But why are there
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so many people incarcerated in
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the United States?
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>> VASQUEZ: Members of the
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legislature make themselves look
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like they were tough on crime
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for their constituents so they
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started increasing sentences for
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various crimes.
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Then we invented the three
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strike law.
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The war on drugs increased the
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federal prison population
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tremendously.
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>> NARRATOR: Some suggest that
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the privatization of prisons is
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also one of the driving forces
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behind the staggering rise in
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incarceration rates in the
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United States.
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>> VASQUEZ: The private prisons
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began I guess maybe 30, 40 years
635
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ago.
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Corrections Corporation of
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America started with just a
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handful of people that believed
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that they could make some money
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00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,635
when incarcerating people in-in
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a private setting, and they
642
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:27,908
started small with city jails
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and county jails and they grew
644
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and grew and grew.
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>> FRIEDMANN: Corrections
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Corporation of America, or CCA
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is the nation's largest
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for-profit prison company.
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They operate over 60
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correctional facilities
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nationwide.
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They have about, uh, 90,000
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correctional bed space.
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And they took in around $1.7
655
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billion in gross revenue
656
00:22:49,469 --> 00:22:51,539
last year.
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In the public sector prisons,
658
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you're basically a number.
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In the private prisons, you're a
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number with a dollar sign in
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front of it.
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>> MANCOW MULLER: Our government
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has made deals with the private
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corporations that own these
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prisons they have to be stocked
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at least 90%.
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They have to keep the beds full.
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We're inventory.
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And they got to keep the shelves
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stocked.
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>> FRIEDMANN: The Associated
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Press in 2012 reported that the
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three top private prison
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companies CCA, Geo Group, and
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MTC had spent around $45
676
00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:22,637
million over a 10-year period in
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campaign donations and lobbying
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expenses alone.
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We're talking some serious
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money.
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>> FATHI: Nobody makes campaign
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contributions expecting nothing
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in return.
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>> NARRATOR: With the exchange
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of campaign contributions for
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legislative promises, can
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citizens ever be sure prisons
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are operating in the best
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interest of the public?
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>> FRIEDMANN: 95% of all
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prisoners will one day get out.
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These prisoners who are
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incarcerated in these for-profit
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prisons, which have no incentive
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to rehabilitate anyone because
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if prisoners don't come back,
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well, that's just another dollar
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00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:03,735
not in their pocket.
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When they get out, they tend
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to commit more crimes.
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That's what the research shows.
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That is really the danger
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to the public.
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>> NARRATOR: But while some may
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see America's "prisons for
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profit" system as frightening,
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there is another perhaps even
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more terrifying concern:
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that virtually anyone
710
00:24:28,735 --> 00:24:31,995
can end up behind bars...
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and for no reason other than
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a case of mistaken identity.
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>> NARRATOR: Los Angeles,
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California, June 5, 2007.
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Hector Veloz, a United States
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citizen and lifelong resident
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00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:01,572
of California, is preparing for
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his release from a state prison
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after serving six months for
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receiving stolen property.
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But just as he thinks he is
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being freed, Veloz is told that
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he will not be going home
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as planned.
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>> HECTOR VELOZ: As we were
726
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being processed for release,
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uh, myself and probably
728
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,660
about four other inmates were
729
00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:25,726
held back...
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only to be told that I was going
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to be processed for deportation.
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It's the greatest insult when
733
00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:33,031
someone tells you to your face
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that you're not an American
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00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,343
citizen.
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>> NARRATOR: Veloz says he was
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then transferred to an unmarked
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processing site in Bakersfield,
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California run by Immigration
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and Customs Enforcement, or ICE,
741
00:25:49,949 --> 00:25:51,349
and the Department of Homeland
742
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Security.
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>> VELOZ: You're at a transfer
744
00:25:54,621 --> 00:25:55,821
facility for ICE.
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00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:57,162
It just looks like
746
00:25:57,156 --> 00:25:58,156
a building, a station.
747
00:25:58,157 --> 00:25:59,827
There's no formal signs as
748
00:25:59,826 --> 00:26:00,956
you're walking in or anything
749
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,090
that tell you you're actually
750
00:26:02,094 --> 00:26:04,064
in care or custody of ICE
751
00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:05,633
officials.
752
00:26:05,632 --> 00:26:07,102
>> NARRATOR: According to other
753
00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:09,239
insiders, the secret location is
754
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:13,335
just one of more than 180 sites
755
00:26:13,339 --> 00:26:16,109
known as "field offices" or
756
00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:18,848
"processing facilities" being
757
00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:21,645
hidden from the American public.
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00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:25,316
>> ARULANANTHAM: We're right in
759
00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:27,351
downtown Los Angeles.
760
00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:28,723
Behind me is the Federal
761
00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:30,691
Building, and this is the front
762
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:32,090
entrance, but you'd never know
763
00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:33,231
that underneath it is
764
00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:35,259
a hidden prison.
765
00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:37,401
So when someone's standing in
766
00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:38,866
the Federal Building, or even on
767
00:26:38,865 --> 00:26:40,725
the sidewalk, there are
768
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:42,273
literally underneath your feet
769
00:26:42,268 --> 00:26:44,798
people in a prison being held by
770
00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:46,274
the Department of Homeland
771
00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:47,742
Security.
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00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:48,880
>> NARRATOR: Is the U.S.
773
00:26:48,875 --> 00:26:50,705
government really detaining
774
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:52,880
immigrants-- even American
775
00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:54,849
citizens-- and hiding them in
776
00:26:54,847 --> 00:26:56,147
plain sight?
777
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>> ARULANANTHAM: Seeing this
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driveway here, and it being
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00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:00,020
LA, you'd think it was a
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00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:01,419
parking lot, uh, but actually if
781
00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:04,120
you go down there, that is the
782
00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:05,263
entrance into an underground
783
00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,027
detention center where the
784
00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:09,426
Department of Homeland Security,
785
00:27:09,428 --> 00:27:11,398
imprisons immigrants while it
786
00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:12,897
processes them to be sent to
787
00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:17,139
other locations for detention.
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>> NARRATOR: Although covert
789
00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:20,144
processing centers are meant for
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00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:23,009
short-term stays,
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00:27:23,009 --> 00:27:26,709
anywhere from 12 to 24 hours,
792
00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:27,913
there are those who claim
793
00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:29,924
these centers actually detain
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00:27:29,916 --> 00:27:32,716
people for days, weeks,
795
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and even months at a time.
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00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:36,888
>> ARULANANTHAM: There were
797
00:27:36,889 --> 00:27:38,319
people who spent literally
798
00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:39,764
several weeks without
799
00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:41,759
brushing their teeth, changing
800
00:27:41,761 --> 00:27:43,431
their clothing, showering,
801
00:27:43,429 --> 00:27:45,159
without being able to make
802
00:27:45,164 --> 00:27:46,774
a phone call.
803
00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:48,196
And when you have 50 people
804
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,940
using one or two toilets, you
805
00:27:50,937 --> 00:27:53,467
can imagine what that's like.
806
00:27:53,472 --> 00:27:55,882
>> NARRATOR: After two days
807
00:27:55,875 --> 00:27:58,775
spent in a holding cell, Hector
808
00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,808
Veloz says he was flown to Eloy,
809
00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:04,083
Arizona and locked up in an
810
00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:06,453
ICE detention facility.
811
00:28:06,452 --> 00:28:09,192
There, he spent two weeks behind
812
00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,958
bars before he could even see
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00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:15,188
a judge to plea for his freedom.
814
00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,204
>> VELOZ: I submit my parents'
815
00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:18,356
birth certificates and my birth
816
00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:19,804
certificates, and I think, with
817
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,969
all the birth certificates, it
818
00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:22,297
should pretty much clear it up.
819
00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:24,344
And it doesn't.
820
00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:25,466
>>> VASQUEZ: Some people spend
821
00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:26,811
years and years in prison,
822
00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:28,206
and you hear those stories
823
00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:31,207
all the time: mistaken identity,
824
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,210
bad witnesses.
825
00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,981
Those things happen,
826
00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:37,051
and it take years to unravel,
827
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:40,219
so you know it happens.
828
00:28:40,219 --> 00:28:42,219
The system will make mistakes.
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>> NARRATOR: Even after Veloz
830
00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:45,829
submitted his birth certificate,
831
00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:47,855
legal briefs he prepared
832
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:49,060
himself,
833
00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,231
and a court appearance by his
834
00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:55,270
father, a decorated Vietnam War
835
00:28:55,267 --> 00:28:58,237
veteran, it still took 13 months
836
00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:01,007
before he was finally recognized
837
00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:03,537
as a U.S. citizen and set free.
838
00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:04,882
>> MULLER: The government picked
839
00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:06,407
this guy up, put him in jail
840
00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:07,812
for over a year. Sorry.
841
00:29:07,814 --> 00:29:09,084
This doesn't happen in America.
842
00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:10,121
Oh, wait a minute.
843
00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,149
Yeah, it does.
844
00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:13,421
I can't imagine what he was
845
00:29:13,419 --> 00:29:14,419
thinking sitting there.
846
00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:15,860
I mean, it's-it's the stuff
847
00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:18,255
of nightmares.
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00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,027
>> NARRATOR: It is estimated
849
00:29:20,026 --> 00:29:24,256
that Veloz's detention cost U.S.
850
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,433
taxpayers tens of thousands of
851
00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:27,271
dollars to house him.
852
00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,296
And Veloz is just one of
853
00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:32,171
hundreds of American citizens
854
00:29:32,171 --> 00:29:34,911
wrongfully detained.
855
00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:38,437
Reportedly, there were roughly
856
00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,554
800 U.S. citizens
857
00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:42,046
in ICE detention
858
00:29:42,048 --> 00:29:46,148
between 2008 and 2012.
859
00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:48,185
But why?
860
00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:49,287
>> SULLIVAN: Critics believe
861
00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:50,918
that private prison corporations
862
00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:53,063
have been driving the country's
863
00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:54,589
immigration policy.
864
00:29:54,593 --> 00:29:56,063
They believe that they're
865
00:29:56,062 --> 00:29:57,332
lobbying for policies that will
866
00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:59,999
lock up more immigrants.
867
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:01,869
>> FATHI: About half of all
868
00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:03,438
immigrants who are detained by
869
00:30:03,435 --> 00:30:04,865
the federal government
870
00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:06,944
are housed in private prisons.
871
00:30:06,939 --> 00:30:08,139
>> VELOZ: It makes you wonder:
872
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,310
who's on the payroll,
873
00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,949
who's really gaining from this?
874
00:30:12,945 --> 00:30:15,045
I didn't.
875
00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:16,077
>> NARRATOR: But while hundreds
876
00:30:16,082 --> 00:30:18,082
of U.S. citizens are wrongly
877
00:30:18,084 --> 00:30:20,094
detained in federal immigration
878
00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:22,956
facilities, there are those who
879
00:30:22,955 --> 00:30:25,315
believe there now exists a
880
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,234
growing number of other equally
881
00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:31,326
insidious secret prisons,
882
00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:32,600
facilities which appear
883
00:30:32,598 --> 00:30:35,628
to be benign but whose secret
884
00:30:35,634 --> 00:30:37,904
purpose may pose the ultimate
885
00:30:37,904 --> 00:30:41,614
threat to America's freedoms.
886
00:30:50,616 --> 00:30:51,946
>> NARRATOR: New Orleans,
887
00:30:51,951 --> 00:30:56,961
Louisiana, August 29, 2005.
888
00:30:56,956 --> 00:30:59,326
Hurricane Katrina destroys
889
00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:03,325
everything in its path,
890
00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,629
including local and state
891
00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:07,571
prisons.
892
00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:11,336
A state of emergency is
893
00:31:11,337 --> 00:31:13,107
declared, which many believe is
894
00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:16,635
a de facto form of martial law.
895
00:31:16,642 --> 00:31:20,382
FEMA, the Federal Emergency
896
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:23,379
Management Agency, mobilizes
897
00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,652
camps for the displaced.
898
00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:27,521
And state and federal
899
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,489
authorities transform a
900
00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:31,958
Greyhound bus station into a
901
00:31:31,958 --> 00:31:35,428
makeshift jail aptly named,
902
00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:39,131
"Camp Greyhound."
903
00:31:39,131 --> 00:31:40,471
>> JOE JOSEPH: We saw Hurricane
904
00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:42,096
Katrina and how many people got
905
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:44,604
displaced as a result of that.
906
00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:47,013
There's a legitimate need for
907
00:31:47,006 --> 00:31:49,376
the federal government to have a
908
00:31:49,375 --> 00:31:50,535
contingency plan in the event of
909
00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:54,412
a disaster.
910
00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:55,413
>> NARRATOR: Brigantine, New
911
00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:56,654
Jersey.
912
00:31:56,648 --> 00:31:58,578
October 29, 2012.
913
00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,960
Hurricane Sandy wipes out
914
00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:06,526
thousands of homes in New York
915
00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:09,155
and New Jersey.
916
00:32:09,161 --> 00:32:12,401
45,000 National Guard and Air
917
00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:15,228
Force personnel are deployed to
918
00:32:15,234 --> 00:32:17,444
over seven states to respond to
919
00:32:17,436 --> 00:32:20,166
the emergency.
920
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:22,712
As with Katrina, tens of
921
00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:24,978
thousands of residents are left
922
00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:27,707
homeless, and once again, as
923
00:32:27,713 --> 00:32:30,423
they had after Katrina, FEMA
924
00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:32,576
sets up temporary encampments to
925
00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:34,424
house the victims in tents and
926
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:36,360
trailers.
927
00:32:38,991 --> 00:32:41,431
But although few could argue why
928
00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:43,457
such an extraordinary disaster
929
00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,732
should require such an equally
930
00:32:45,731 --> 00:32:48,071
extraordinary response, there
931
00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:50,567
are many who claim these refugee
932
00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:54,009
sites operated more like prisons
933
00:32:54,006 --> 00:32:56,176
than shelters.
934
00:32:56,175 --> 00:32:58,075
And that, they believe, was no
935
00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,047
accident.
936
00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:04,282
>> VASQUEZ: They had them
937
00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:05,483
confined, they were feeding
938
00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:07,594
them, they were providing a bed
939
00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,456
and an environment to live in.
940
00:33:09,455 --> 00:33:12,685
The camps had to have security.
941
00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:14,691
You're taking in thousands of
942
00:33:14,693 --> 00:33:16,503
people and-and you don't know
943
00:33:16,495 --> 00:33:17,495
anything about those
944
00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:18,626
individuals.
945
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,470
Some could be criminals.
946
00:33:20,466 --> 00:33:21,696
They've committed murderers,
947
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:23,700
they're doing drugs, so you have
948
00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:25,502
to provide that balance of
949
00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:27,244
security, because it's an
950
00:33:27,239 --> 00:33:29,109
unknown.
951
00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:30,778
>> MULLER: These FEMA camps that
952
00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,506
spring up after something like a
953
00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:33,781
hurricane, right?
954
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,509
You've lost everything and when
955
00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:36,784
you go to a FEMA camp, they tell
956
00:33:36,782 --> 00:33:38,482
you, "You're not allowed to talk
957
00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:39,754
the media, did you know that?"
958
00:33:39,785 --> 00:33:41,485
Why?
959
00:33:41,487 --> 00:33:43,117
>> JOSEPH: While it's
960
00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:45,122
responsible for government to
961
00:33:45,124 --> 00:33:47,794
provide for catastrophe response
962
00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:50,533
or for a national emergency, the
963
00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:53,529
problem is the characteristics
964
00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:56,402
of a FEMA camp is that the
965
00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,802
fences have razor wire or barbed
966
00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:01,674
wire that's pointing inward.
967
00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:03,813
Meaning that it's meant to keep
968
00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:05,779
people in, not keep people out.
969
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,120
>> NARRATOR: Could the
970
00:34:10,116 --> 00:34:11,676
military-like tactics used in
971
00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:13,823
running FEMA camps really be
972
00:34:13,819 --> 00:34:17,289
serving as a type of dry run?
973
00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:19,559
One that is being orchestrated
974
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,328
to serve another, more secret
975
00:34:22,361 --> 00:34:23,701
agenda?
976
00:34:23,695 --> 00:34:24,695
>> MICHAEL RIVERO: There has
977
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:25,826
been a long discussion over the
978
00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:27,171
possibility that the U.S.
979
00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:29,266
government is making contingency
980
00:34:29,268 --> 00:34:32,138
plans to deal with a mass civil
981
00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:34,108
uprising.
982
00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:35,836
And it centers on certain
983
00:34:35,841 --> 00:34:37,581
facilities which are in
984
00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:40,106
existence, which are empty and
985
00:34:40,112 --> 00:34:41,582
which appear to be very rapidly
986
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,420
convertible to hold large
987
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,575
numbers of human beings.
988
00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:46,594
>> JONES: The government doesn't
989
00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:48,545
call them FEMA camps.
990
00:34:48,554 --> 00:34:49,564
They call them emergency
991
00:34:49,555 --> 00:34:50,655
centers.
992
00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:53,656
They call it the Civilian Inmate
993
00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:55,592
Labor Camp Program.
994
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:58,304
They call it Continuity of
995
00:34:58,297 --> 00:34:59,597
Government Emergency Relocation
996
00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:01,568
Centers.
997
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:05,870
>> NARRATOR: Some fear that FEMA
998
00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:08,571
camps could signal a return to
999
00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:10,584
a troubling period of American
1000
00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:13,306
history when Japanese-American
1001
00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:16,682
citizens were rounded up, forced
1002
00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:17,882
to leave their homes and
1003
00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:19,893
businesses and placed in
1004
00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:21,745
detention camps during World
1005
00:35:21,753 --> 00:35:24,293
War II.
1006
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:25,290
>> JOSEPH: You can't rule out
1007
00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:26,591
the fact that internment camps
1008
00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:27,632
could rear their ugly head in
1009
00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,626
the United States again.
1010
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:30,898
And I say again.
1011
00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:32,156
They've happened before, it
1012
00:35:32,164 --> 00:35:35,604
could happen again.
1013
00:35:35,601 --> 00:35:36,601
>> JONES: They plan to round
1014
00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:38,442
people up the exact same way.
1015
00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:39,767
They got a list of where you
1016
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,371
work, where you go to school,
1017
00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:43,243
what you do.
1018
00:35:43,242 --> 00:35:44,782
>> NARRATOR: Is the U.S.
1019
00:35:44,776 --> 00:35:46,606
government really trying to
1020
00:35:46,612 --> 00:35:48,252
prepare its citizens for a
1021
00:35:48,247 --> 00:35:49,917
future where they would be
1022
00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:52,375
rounded up and placed in
1023
00:35:52,384 --> 00:35:54,624
detention facilities where their
1024
00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:56,620
individual rights and freedoms
1025
00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:58,792
would be compromised?
1026
00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:00,530
And all in the name of the
1027
00:36:00,526 --> 00:36:02,626
common good?
1028
00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:04,858
Perhaps.
1029
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:07,873
But such an outrageous notion
1030
00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,896
begins to take on an eerie
1031
00:36:10,902 --> 00:36:13,772
legitimacy when confronted with
1032
00:36:13,772 --> 00:36:15,672
the fact that hundreds of
1033
00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:17,484
average U.S. citizens are
1034
00:36:17,476 --> 00:36:20,246
currently serving prison time,
1035
00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:22,806
and for nothing more serious
1036
00:36:22,814 --> 00:36:25,954
than a clerical error.
1037
00:36:36,262 --> 00:36:38,262
>> NARRATOR: Herrin, Illinois.
1038
00:36:38,264 --> 00:36:41,674
Cancer survivor Lisa Lindsay is
1039
00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:44,937
arrested and jailed for failing
1040
00:36:44,936 --> 00:36:48,936
to pay a $280 medical bill.
1041
00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:51,280
But according to Lindsay, the
1042
00:36:51,277 --> 00:36:53,677
bill is not hers.
1043
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,409
In fact, her name was
1044
00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:57,554
erroneously attached to the debt
1045
00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:00,649
by a collection agency.
1046
00:37:00,652 --> 00:37:04,662
Lindsay ends up paying $600 to
1047
00:37:04,656 --> 00:37:06,656
settle the mistaken charges, and
1048
00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:09,228
to get out of what some call a
1049
00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,701
"debtor's prison."
1050
00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:13,427
>> FATHI: Debtor's prison refers
1051
00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:15,702
to the practice of jailing a
1052
00:37:15,701 --> 00:37:18,441
person because he or she can't
1053
00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,667
afford, uh, to pay a fine.
1054
00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:23,712
Might be a very small fine.
1055
00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:24,909
>> SULLIVAN: There are thousands
1056
00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:26,680
of inmates in jails and in
1057
00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:28,378
prisons across this country that
1058
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:30,650
are there because they can't
1059
00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:34,422
afford to pay their bills.
1060
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:35,450
>> FATHI: The Supreme Court
1061
00:37:35,454 --> 00:37:37,594
ruled more than 30 years ago
1062
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:39,289
that it's unconstitutional to
1063
00:37:39,291 --> 00:37:41,791
jail someone for failure to pay
1064
00:37:41,793 --> 00:37:43,703
a fine unless the court
1065
00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:45,295
specifically finds the person
1066
00:37:45,297 --> 00:37:46,867
could pay but is choosing not
1067
00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:47,995
to.
1068
00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:48,999
In other words, you're not
1069
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,470
supposed to be jailed just
1070
00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:53,709
because you're poor.
1071
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:54,865
>> NARRATOR: Debtor's prisons
1072
00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:56,813
were outlawed in the United
1073
00:37:56,808 --> 00:38:00,748
States nearly 200 years ago.
1074
00:38:00,746 --> 00:38:04,346
So how could they possibly exist
1075
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:05,950
today?
1076
00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,721
>> FATHI: People being jailed
1077
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,989
for debt tends to happen in
1078
00:38:08,987 --> 00:38:11,587
municipal courts in cases where
1079
00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,730
people don't have a lawyer.
1080
00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:14,755
And so it sort of flies under
1081
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,090
the radar.
1082
00:38:16,094 --> 00:38:18,764
And it's a population that's by
1083
00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:20,604
definition poor, uh, doesn't
1084
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:21,769
have political power, doesn't
1085
00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:22,997
have influence.
1086
00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:24,341
Doesn't get a lot of media
1087
00:38:24,370 --> 00:38:25,500
attention.
1088
00:38:25,504 --> 00:38:26,514
>> HICKEY: A person who's
1089
00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:27,905
arrested for having too many
1090
00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:28,906
speeding tickets and hasn't paid
1091
00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:31,037
them and then is put into a jail
1092
00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:32,912
and put into a cell with a
1093
00:38:32,911 --> 00:38:34,751
couple of rapists, the trauma
1094
00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:36,476
can be extremely severe and can
1095
00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:39,115
be very terrorizing to a person.
1096
00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:40,517
But sometimes in jails, because
1097
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,049
of overcrowding, they'll put
1098
00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:44,063
them in with people who have
1099
00:38:44,055 --> 00:38:45,585
violent tendencies.
1100
00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:46,791
And so we have seen people who
1101
00:38:46,792 --> 00:38:48,462
have been assaulted.
1102
00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:50,360
>> NARRATOR: Could it really be
1103
00:38:50,362 --> 00:38:52,762
that easy for people to be
1104
00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:55,774
locked up due to clerical errors
1105
00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:59,067
or simply a few missed payments?
1106
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:01,670
And if this can happen to any
1107
00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,083
American, should the public pay
1108
00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:06,805
closer attention to how our
1109
00:39:06,812 --> 00:39:09,622
prison system operates and what
1110
00:39:09,615 --> 00:39:11,875
secrets it may be hiding?
1111
00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:15,422
>> HICKEY: Everyone wants to see
1112
00:39:15,421 --> 00:39:16,421
what's happening within those
1113
00:39:16,422 --> 00:39:17,422
institutions.
1114
00:39:17,423 --> 00:39:18,093
And it's like they want to get
1115
00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:19,089
to the edge and look over the
1116
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:20,090
cliff and see what's in there,
1117
00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:20,691
but they don't want to really
1118
00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:21,632
jump.
1119
00:39:21,627 --> 00:39:22,487
Because once you go behind
1120
00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:23,134
closed doors, no one knows what
1121
00:39:23,128 --> 00:39:26,428
happens to you.
1122
00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:28,172
>> NARRATOR: Citizens jailed for
1123
00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:30,666
minor debt and mistaken
1124
00:39:30,669 --> 00:39:33,069
identity, juveniles locked away
1125
00:39:33,071 --> 00:39:35,811
for years at a time,
1126
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:37,437
and Americans wrongfully
1127
00:39:37,443 --> 00:39:39,813
imprisoned for alleged
1128
00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:42,051
immigration violations.
1129
00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:44,447
Is the American prison system
1130
00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:47,420
expanding so much that it could
1131
00:39:47,419 --> 00:39:49,859
soon be detaining citizens for
1132
00:39:49,855 --> 00:39:52,655
any reason at all?
1133
00:39:52,658 --> 00:39:54,688
And all in the name of national
1134
00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:57,056
security?
1135
00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:58,432
>> JOSEPH: It's conditioning.
1136
00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:00,070
That's exactly what it's for.
1137
00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:01,065
But what are they conditioning
1138
00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:02,466
us for?
1139
00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:03,598
Is it economic?
1140
00:40:03,602 --> 00:40:04,872
Could it be some sort of natural
1141
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:06,710
disaster, an earthquake?
1142
00:40:06,705 --> 00:40:07,735
It could be any one of those
1143
00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,879
things, but you can say beyond
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the shadow of a doubt that
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they're preparing for something.
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>> MULLER: I've been in some of
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the protests with the cops
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dressed up like storm troopers
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out of Star Wars.
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If Americans rose up, they have
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the camps ready for us.
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They have the prisons ready for
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us.
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These are warehouses for
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humanity.
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These are warehouses for the
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American public.
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>> SULLIVAN: The public has
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really very little idea of
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what's happening behind the
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walls of America's prisons.
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>> JONES: No one can deny it,
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the land of the free, the home
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of the brave has the largest
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prison population in the world
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and it's only growing.
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>> FATHI: Most people think of
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prisoners as the other.
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The reality is, with the largest
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prison population in the world,
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a lot of Americans are going to
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end up in prison, or at least in
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jail, at some point in their
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lives.
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It might be you.
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It might be your son or
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daughter.
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It might be a friend.
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We should all care what happens
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in prisons, because that could
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be you or me or any of us.
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>> NARRATOR: Should all U.S.
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citizens, even the law-abiding,
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be concerned about America's
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so-called "secret prisons"?
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There are those who believe the
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answer is a profound "Yes."
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But one thing is certain.
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Until the nation knows the truth
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about its prisons, thousands of
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Americans will continue asking
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questions and fearing the
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unknown, while others will
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simply turn their heads and say,
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"It can't happen here."
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