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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,603 --> 00:00:04,113 >> NARRATOR: They hold America's 2 00:00:04,105 --> 00:00:05,635 most dangerous criminals... 3 00:00:05,639 --> 00:00:06,769 >> BOB HOOD: They killed 4 00:00:06,774 --> 00:00:07,814 officers, they killed 5 00:00:07,808 --> 00:00:08,808 other inmates. 6 00:00:08,809 --> 00:00:10,139 You're going to the worst 7 00:00:10,144 --> 00:00:11,284 of the worst. 8 00:00:11,279 --> 00:00:12,549 >> NARRATOR: Prisons so 9 00:00:12,546 --> 00:00:13,546 undercover... 10 00:00:13,547 --> 00:00:14,647 >> AHILAN ARULANANTHAM: 11 00:00:14,648 --> 00:00:16,218 Thousands of people have no idea 12 00:00:16,217 --> 00:00:17,547 that they are walking on top 13 00:00:17,551 --> 00:00:18,791 of a federal prison. 14 00:00:18,786 --> 00:00:20,286 >> NARRATOR: So controversial... 15 00:00:20,288 --> 00:00:21,418 >> MANCOW MULLER: If Americans 16 00:00:21,422 --> 00:00:22,662 rose up, they have the camps 17 00:00:22,656 --> 00:00:23,656 ready for us, they have 18 00:00:23,657 --> 00:00:25,157 the prisons ready for us. 19 00:00:25,159 --> 00:00:26,559 >> NARRATOR: And so dangerous... 20 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:27,700 >> WILL POTTER: People have 21 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:29,655 absolutely no idea these places 22 00:00:29,663 --> 00:00:30,703 exist on American soil 23 00:00:30,698 --> 00:00:32,498 in our hometowns. 24 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:33,800 >> NARRATOR: ...that the details 25 00:00:33,801 --> 00:00:35,171 of how they operate must be 26 00:00:35,169 --> 00:00:37,709 locked... up... tight. 27 00:00:37,705 --> 00:00:39,265 >> ERIC HICKEY: Once you go 28 00:00:39,273 --> 00:00:40,813 behind closed doors, no one 29 00:00:40,808 --> 00:00:42,778 knows what happens to you. 30 00:00:42,776 --> 00:00:44,306 >> NARRATOR: But just what goes 31 00:00:44,312 --> 00:00:46,782 on behind the stone walls and 32 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:48,420 iron bars that the public 33 00:00:48,416 --> 00:00:51,246 doesn't know? 34 00:00:51,252 --> 00:00:53,692 And are these facilities really 35 00:00:53,687 --> 00:00:56,687 hiding deep, dark secrets? 36 00:00:56,690 --> 00:00:58,130 >> LAURA SULLIVAN: The public 37 00:00:58,126 --> 00:00:59,326 has really very little idea 38 00:00:59,327 --> 00:01:00,457 of what's happening behind 39 00:01:00,461 --> 00:01:03,731 the walls of America's prisons. 40 00:01:03,731 --> 00:01:04,731 >> NARRATOR: There are those 41 00:01:04,732 --> 00:01:05,872 who believe in the existence 42 00:01:05,866 --> 00:01:08,566 of a book. 43 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:10,439 A book that contains the most 44 00:01:10,438 --> 00:01:14,208 highly guarded secrets of the 45 00:01:14,208 --> 00:01:17,178 United States of America. 46 00:01:17,178 --> 00:01:20,878 A book... whose very existence 47 00:01:20,881 --> 00:01:25,221 is known to only a select few. 48 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:27,589 But if such a book exists, 49 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:30,488 what would it contain? 50 00:01:30,491 --> 00:01:33,361 Secret locations? 51 00:01:33,361 --> 00:01:37,371 Secret methods? 52 00:01:37,365 --> 00:01:40,565 Secret agendas? 53 00:01:40,568 --> 00:01:42,768 Does there really exist 54 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:46,470 America's Book of Secrets? 55 00:01:54,748 --> 00:01:56,518 >> NARRATOR: Guantanamo Bay 56 00:01:56,517 --> 00:01:57,917 Detention Camp on the southern 57 00:01:57,918 --> 00:02:00,318 coast of Cuba, 58 00:02:00,321 --> 00:02:01,861 700 miles from 59 00:02:01,855 --> 00:02:03,915 the United States. 60 00:02:03,924 --> 00:02:06,934 Built in 2002, the American 61 00:02:06,927 --> 00:02:08,527 military prison also known as 62 00:02:08,529 --> 00:02:13,769 "Gitmo," has detained nearly 800 63 00:02:13,767 --> 00:02:16,867 alleged terrorists. 64 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:19,940 This notorious site has made 65 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:21,780 national headlines for its 66 00:02:21,775 --> 00:02:25,475 classified operations and the 67 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:29,649 dangerous criminals it holds. 68 00:02:29,650 --> 00:02:31,690 But what many Americans may not 69 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:33,785 realize is that there are 70 00:02:33,787 --> 00:02:36,287 other prisons... 71 00:02:36,290 --> 00:02:38,790 prisons located on U.S. soil 72 00:02:38,792 --> 00:02:41,432 that harbor government secrets 73 00:02:41,429 --> 00:02:43,559 and contain criminals 74 00:02:43,564 --> 00:02:46,534 just as terrifying as those 75 00:02:46,567 --> 00:02:48,697 in Guantanamo. 76 00:02:48,702 --> 00:02:49,972 >> DAVID FATHI: The very most 77 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:51,710 secret prisons, I-I would say, 78 00:02:51,705 --> 00:02:54,275 are super-high security, 79 00:02:54,275 --> 00:02:56,305 supermax prisons; 80 00:02:56,310 --> 00:02:57,810 the prisons where the prisoners 81 00:02:57,811 --> 00:02:59,551 are in their cells locked behind 82 00:02:59,547 --> 00:03:02,547 a solid steel door for 23 83 00:03:02,583 --> 00:03:04,693 or 24 hours a day. 84 00:03:04,685 --> 00:03:06,685 Those are the most out-of-sight 85 00:03:06,687 --> 00:03:07,987 parts of our criminal 86 00:03:07,988 --> 00:03:10,188 justice system. 87 00:03:13,427 --> 00:03:15,457 >> NARRATOR: Florence, Colorado. 88 00:03:15,463 --> 00:03:17,573 Hidden amidst the scenic Rocky 89 00:03:17,565 --> 00:03:20,825 Mountains lies the $60-million 90 00:03:20,834 --> 00:03:22,874 Administrative Maximum 91 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:27,680 Facility, or ADX. 92 00:03:27,675 --> 00:03:30,435 Built in 1994, many believe the 93 00:03:30,444 --> 00:03:33,014 so-called "Supermax" is the most 94 00:03:33,013 --> 00:03:34,953 secure prison in 95 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:36,818 the United States... 96 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:40,020 and possibly even the world. 97 00:03:40,020 --> 00:03:41,490 >> HOOD: There's only been three 98 00:03:41,489 --> 00:03:43,359 supermax prisons in history, 99 00:03:43,357 --> 00:03:44,857 federal supermax prisons: 100 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:47,628 Alcatraz, Marion, Illinois, 101 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:49,858 and now the current one. 102 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:53,633 >> TRACY HARMON: I've worked the 103 00:03:53,634 --> 00:03:56,774 prison beat for 23 years, 104 00:03:56,770 --> 00:03:58,340 and Supermax is by far the most 105 00:03:58,372 --> 00:04:00,372 elite of the prisons. 106 00:04:00,374 --> 00:04:02,914 It really is very secretive. 107 00:04:02,910 --> 00:04:04,380 It's been called the "Harvard 108 00:04:04,378 --> 00:04:06,508 of prisons." 109 00:04:06,514 --> 00:04:08,054 >> HOOD: The inmates that are at 110 00:04:08,048 --> 00:04:09,748 the current Supermax facility, 111 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:10,880 they killed officers, 112 00:04:10,884 --> 00:04:11,894 they killed other inmates. 113 00:04:11,885 --> 00:04:13,385 They're going to the worst 114 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:14,587 of the worst. 115 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:17,588 Out of the 218,000 to 219,000 116 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:18,991 thousand inmates in the federal 117 00:04:18,992 --> 00:04:21,462 system, the Supermax can only 118 00:04:21,462 --> 00:04:23,932 hold 490. 119 00:04:23,931 --> 00:04:25,871 It's not even full. 120 00:04:25,899 --> 00:04:27,899 You have to earn the right. 121 00:04:27,901 --> 00:04:29,601 >> ERIC HICKEY: Inmates consider 122 00:04:29,603 --> 00:04:30,803 themselves to be very 123 00:04:30,804 --> 00:04:31,914 important people, 124 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:32,935 and they've earned this. 125 00:04:32,940 --> 00:04:34,540 It's like a status symbol 126 00:04:34,542 --> 00:04:35,542 for them. 127 00:04:35,543 --> 00:04:36,913 Being in a supermax prison 128 00:04:36,910 --> 00:04:38,410 makes them feel very special 129 00:04:38,412 --> 00:04:40,052 in a way. 130 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:44,416 >> NARRATOR: The Supermax-- just 131 00:04:44,418 --> 00:04:47,388 over 100 miles south of Denver-- 132 00:04:47,388 --> 00:04:49,918 is often also referred to as 133 00:04:49,923 --> 00:04:53,093 a "Clean Version of Hell" and 134 00:04:53,093 --> 00:04:56,063 the "Alcatraz of the Rockies." 135 00:04:56,063 --> 00:04:57,973 >> HOOD: As you get closer to 136 00:04:57,965 --> 00:04:59,925 the prison, you realize there's 137 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:01,943 six gun towers, an abundance of 138 00:05:01,935 --> 00:05:04,965 razor wire, mobile patrols, 139 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:06,812 armed officers in those vehicles 140 00:05:06,807 --> 00:05:08,437 driving around. 141 00:05:08,442 --> 00:05:09,982 Let's be candid here. 142 00:05:09,977 --> 00:05:11,777 It's the most secure facility 143 00:05:11,779 --> 00:05:14,109 in the United States. 144 00:05:14,114 --> 00:05:15,124 >> NARRATOR: Prisoners at the 145 00:05:15,115 --> 00:05:17,785 Supermax are so high-profile and 146 00:05:17,785 --> 00:05:19,945 so dangerous, that their 147 00:05:19,953 --> 00:05:22,693 transportation into the facility 148 00:05:22,690 --> 00:05:23,990 warrants extra measures to 149 00:05:23,991 --> 00:05:27,131 ensure they do not escape. 150 00:05:27,127 --> 00:05:28,457 >> HOOD: During those 151 00:05:28,462 --> 00:05:29,602 transports, it could be 152 00:05:29,597 --> 00:05:30,957 everything from a Black Hawk 153 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:33,604 helicopter to chartered planes. 154 00:05:33,601 --> 00:05:35,441 They're in all kinds of 155 00:05:35,436 --> 00:05:36,466 shackles, leg irons, 156 00:05:36,470 --> 00:05:37,470 and belly chains. 157 00:05:37,471 --> 00:05:39,471 Sometimes electronic devices, so 158 00:05:39,473 --> 00:05:41,613 if they move and try to escape, 159 00:05:41,609 --> 00:05:43,009 you can provide them a charge. 160 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:44,710 I can't tell you the specifics 161 00:05:44,712 --> 00:05:46,012 about how many people 162 00:05:46,013 --> 00:05:47,853 are supervising those moves, 163 00:05:47,848 --> 00:05:49,978 but they're high-level. 164 00:05:49,983 --> 00:05:51,553 >> TRACY HARMON: There are 165 00:05:51,552 --> 00:05:53,622 helicopter-deterrent systems. 166 00:05:53,621 --> 00:05:55,491 If you tried to fly over with 167 00:05:55,489 --> 00:05:58,089 a helicopter to extract someone 168 00:05:58,091 --> 00:05:59,761 from the little yard that they 169 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:00,990 have in the center of the 170 00:06:00,994 --> 00:06:03,104 prison, there are several layers 171 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:05,996 of cables that crisscross over 172 00:06:05,999 --> 00:06:06,999 the yard. 173 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,040 So nothing's getting out, 174 00:06:09,036 --> 00:06:11,766 nothing's getting in. 175 00:06:11,772 --> 00:06:12,872 >> NARRATOR: According to 176 00:06:12,873 --> 00:06:14,783 insiders, the technology at the 177 00:06:14,775 --> 00:06:17,105 Supermax surpasses that of any 178 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:20,050 federal prison before it, 179 00:06:20,047 --> 00:06:23,017 making any attempt to escape 180 00:06:23,016 --> 00:06:24,016 futile. 181 00:06:24,017 --> 00:06:25,187 >> HARMON: There are motion 182 00:06:25,185 --> 00:06:27,855 sensors in the floor. 183 00:06:27,855 --> 00:06:29,785 If anyone managed to work their 184 00:06:29,790 --> 00:06:32,660 way into the piping or the ducts 185 00:06:32,660 --> 00:06:35,530 in the building, a motion sensor 186 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:38,629 would set off an alarm and the 187 00:06:38,632 --> 00:06:40,532 officers would know exactly 188 00:06:40,534 --> 00:06:43,044 where this was happening. 189 00:06:43,036 --> 00:06:46,536 The other thing about Supermax 190 00:06:46,540 --> 00:06:48,680 is the master control system is 191 00:06:48,676 --> 00:06:50,806 located where the inmates would 192 00:06:50,811 --> 00:06:53,081 never be able to get to it. 193 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,220 But just in case, there is an 194 00:06:56,216 --> 00:06:58,946 alarm they can set off that will 195 00:06:58,952 --> 00:07:01,052 shut down the master control and 196 00:07:01,054 --> 00:07:03,224 it's taken over at a remote 197 00:07:03,223 --> 00:07:06,663 location very far away 198 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:08,700 from the prison. 199 00:07:08,696 --> 00:07:09,756 >> NARRATOR: Notorious 200 00:07:09,763 --> 00:07:14,643 terrorists such as Ramzi Yousef, 201 00:07:14,635 --> 00:07:17,505 Richard Reid, 202 00:07:17,505 --> 00:07:19,905 Ted Kaczynski, 203 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:23,107 and Eric Rudolph, 204 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:25,710 call the Supermax home. 205 00:07:25,713 --> 00:07:27,113 >> HOOD: If you look down the 206 00:07:27,114 --> 00:07:29,954 typical cell block, or the 207 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:31,850 "range" we call them, you would 208 00:07:31,852 --> 00:07:33,952 see Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, 209 00:07:33,954 --> 00:07:36,724 hit man for the mafia, sitting 210 00:07:36,724 --> 00:07:37,994 next door to a person like 211 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:39,961 Robert Hansen, a spy, adjacent 212 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,130 to, at one time, Timothy McVeigh 213 00:07:44,131 --> 00:07:47,131 before his execution. 214 00:07:47,134 --> 00:07:48,744 >> NARRATOR: The cost of housing 215 00:07:48,736 --> 00:07:50,596 inmates in solitary confinement 216 00:07:50,604 --> 00:07:52,214 is estimated to be 217 00:07:52,205 --> 00:07:55,705 $75,000 dollars per inmate 218 00:07:55,709 --> 00:07:58,109 per year. 219 00:07:58,111 --> 00:07:59,811 But don't let that price 220 00:07:59,813 --> 00:08:01,113 fool you. 221 00:08:01,114 --> 00:08:03,254 Although the Supermax may appear 222 00:08:03,250 --> 00:08:05,890 to be a high-tech facility, 223 00:08:05,886 --> 00:08:09,986 this is no luxury hotel. 224 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:11,160 >> HOOD: There's nothing fancy. 225 00:08:11,158 --> 00:08:12,828 They have a cement bed with a 226 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:14,626 very small mattress on it. 227 00:08:14,628 --> 00:08:15,958 There's a desk, but it's a solid 228 00:08:15,963 --> 00:08:17,263 cement desk. 229 00:08:17,264 --> 00:08:19,704 Even the chair is solid cement. 230 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:21,270 They have a window, but the 231 00:08:21,268 --> 00:08:23,298 difference is, a four-inch slit 232 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:25,143 window as you're peeking out... 233 00:08:25,138 --> 00:08:26,138 you're not looking at the 234 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:27,309 Rockies, you're simply looking 235 00:08:27,307 --> 00:08:28,637 at, perhaps, the backside of 236 00:08:28,642 --> 00:08:30,142 another building. 237 00:08:30,143 --> 00:08:30,783 What we give the inmates beyond 238 00:08:30,778 --> 00:08:32,908 that: the basics of toothpaste, 239 00:08:32,913 --> 00:08:34,653 toothbrush, a couple pairs of 240 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:37,118 the underwear and the uniform. 241 00:08:39,186 --> 00:08:41,146 >> NARRATOR: But believe it or 242 00:08:41,154 --> 00:08:44,324 not, the Supermax is more than 243 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:45,994 a holding pen for the some of 244 00:08:45,993 --> 00:08:48,203 the world's most notorious 245 00:08:48,195 --> 00:08:50,925 criminal minds. 246 00:08:50,931 --> 00:08:53,031 It also serves another, more 247 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:55,773 secret function. 248 00:08:55,769 --> 00:08:58,039 One that is considered crucial 249 00:08:58,038 --> 00:09:01,608 to America's national security. 250 00:09:01,609 --> 00:09:02,339 >> HOOD: The average prison in 251 00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:03,342 the United States is there to 252 00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:04,613 contain and be a deterrent to 253 00:09:04,612 --> 00:09:05,612 others. 254 00:09:05,613 --> 00:09:07,053 The Supermax has another mission 255 00:09:07,047 --> 00:09:08,947 that's not often discussed. 256 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:10,919 We're holding people that have 257 00:09:10,918 --> 00:09:12,288 really impacted our lives. 258 00:09:12,285 --> 00:09:13,285 So there's intelligence 259 00:09:13,286 --> 00:09:14,286 gathering. 260 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:15,687 We're involved with the Joint 261 00:09:15,689 --> 00:09:16,819 Terrorist Task Force. 262 00:09:16,824 --> 00:09:18,194 We're involved with national 263 00:09:18,191 --> 00:09:20,231 security agencies: FBI, Secret 264 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:23,297 Service, the whole nine yards, 265 00:09:23,296 --> 00:09:25,226 because some inmates would love 266 00:09:25,232 --> 00:09:27,642 to still run the world from 267 00:09:27,635 --> 00:09:29,295 inside the prison, so our job is 268 00:09:29,302 --> 00:09:31,342 to minimize that, if not just 269 00:09:31,338 --> 00:09:33,368 totally stop it. 270 00:09:33,373 --> 00:09:34,373 We're also listening to the 271 00:09:34,374 --> 00:09:35,844 conversations, we listen live 272 00:09:35,843 --> 00:09:36,843 time. 273 00:09:36,844 --> 00:09:39,384 We record and the reason being 274 00:09:39,379 --> 00:09:40,809 we don't want some plot to occur 275 00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:42,224 out in the world and then we go 276 00:09:42,215 --> 00:09:44,215 back and do a postmortem. 277 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:45,847 That's a reactive response. 278 00:09:45,853 --> 00:09:47,093 The intention of the Supermax is 279 00:09:47,087 --> 00:09:48,687 to be so proactive that we're 280 00:09:48,689 --> 00:09:51,119 connecting the dots. 281 00:09:51,124 --> 00:09:52,334 Terrorism's here to stay, but 282 00:09:52,325 --> 00:09:53,255 there might be a point in time 283 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:55,000 we're able to say, here's some 284 00:09:54,995 --> 00:09:57,125 lessons learned from people 285 00:09:57,130 --> 00:09:58,730 within the Supermax that maybe 286 00:09:58,732 --> 00:09:59,872 did save that building or that 287 00:09:59,867 --> 00:10:01,867 bridge or that tunnel. 288 00:10:01,869 --> 00:10:02,869 They're the type of things I 289 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:04,000 couldn't discuss, but I could 290 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:05,014 tell you there's a lot of neat 291 00:10:05,005 --> 00:10:06,005 information that comes from the 292 00:10:06,006 --> 00:10:08,676 Supermax. 293 00:10:08,676 --> 00:10:09,736 >> NARRATOR: While the Supermax 294 00:10:09,743 --> 00:10:11,413 holds some of the most savage 295 00:10:11,411 --> 00:10:14,111 criminals in the United States, 296 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:16,284 there are still other maximum 297 00:10:16,283 --> 00:10:19,693 security prisons, prisons that 298 00:10:19,687 --> 00:10:21,287 hold inmates considered so 299 00:10:21,288 --> 00:10:24,088 dangerous that their identities 300 00:10:24,091 --> 00:10:27,291 are kept secret... even from 301 00:10:27,294 --> 00:10:29,934 their fellow inmates. 302 00:10:40,207 --> 00:10:41,207 >> NARRATOR: Butner, North 303 00:10:41,208 --> 00:10:42,208 Carolina. 304 00:10:42,209 --> 00:10:45,709 May 2008. 305 00:10:45,713 --> 00:10:47,213 In the darkness of pre-dawn 306 00:10:47,214 --> 00:10:49,724 hours at the Federal 307 00:10:49,717 --> 00:10:52,387 Correctional Institution, guards 308 00:10:52,385 --> 00:10:54,315 enter inmate Andrew Stepanian's 309 00:10:54,321 --> 00:10:56,721 cell. 310 00:10:56,724 --> 00:10:59,334 Without any explanation, they 311 00:10:59,326 --> 00:11:01,696 shackle the 29-year-old and 312 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:05,095 remove him from the facility. 313 00:11:05,098 --> 00:11:06,228 >> ANDREW STEPANIAN: They put, 314 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:07,873 like, a leather, big, thick, 315 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:09,968 weight-lifter-style belt around 316 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,973 my waist with a ring. 317 00:11:11,972 --> 00:11:15,282 They put my handcuffs through 318 00:11:15,275 --> 00:11:16,835 the ring and then around this 319 00:11:16,844 --> 00:11:19,254 ring, they put a black box with 320 00:11:19,246 --> 00:11:21,406 another key and-and padlock. 321 00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:23,024 They then cuffed my feet 322 00:11:23,016 --> 00:11:24,146 together. 323 00:11:24,151 --> 00:11:25,251 So I was really pretty much 324 00:11:25,252 --> 00:11:28,862 incapacitated. 325 00:11:28,856 --> 00:11:30,256 >> NARRATOR: Within hours, 326 00:11:30,257 --> 00:11:31,417 Stepanian was covertly 327 00:11:31,424 --> 00:11:33,834 transported to a private plane 328 00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:37,027 with 30 other inmates. 329 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:38,270 But why? 330 00:11:38,265 --> 00:11:41,265 Just what did this prisoner do 331 00:11:41,268 --> 00:11:43,438 to warrant such an unusual and 332 00:11:43,436 --> 00:11:47,406 secret transfer? 333 00:11:47,407 --> 00:11:48,877 >> STEPANIAN: I was sentenced 334 00:11:48,876 --> 00:11:50,776 to 36 months in Federal Prison, 335 00:11:50,778 --> 00:11:52,778 because I violated a law called 336 00:11:52,780 --> 00:11:54,050 the Animal Enterprise Protection 337 00:11:54,047 --> 00:11:55,777 Act of 1992. 338 00:11:55,783 --> 00:11:57,323 (protestors chanting) 339 00:11:57,317 --> 00:11:59,787 I caused more than $10,000 in 340 00:11:59,787 --> 00:12:01,787 financial damages to businesses 341 00:12:01,789 --> 00:12:03,919 that used animals for research. 342 00:12:03,924 --> 00:12:06,464 I was designated as a terrorist 343 00:12:06,459 --> 00:12:07,759 in the Federal Bureau of 344 00:12:07,761 --> 00:12:08,931 Prisons. 345 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:10,459 >> NARRATOR: But why was Andrew 346 00:12:10,463 --> 00:12:12,403 Stepanian-- who had served most 347 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:13,929 of his term at a 348 00:12:13,934 --> 00:12:16,044 medium security prison-- 349 00:12:16,036 --> 00:12:17,336 suddenly moved in the early 350 00:12:17,337 --> 00:12:20,067 morning hours to a place known 351 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:23,313 as a CMU, or Communication 352 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:26,480 Management Unit, a prison where 353 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:28,319 some of the country's greatest 354 00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:30,945 security threats are kept under 355 00:12:30,951 --> 00:12:32,891 constant surveillance? 356 00:12:35,823 --> 00:12:36,963 >> FATHI: The Communications 357 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:39,487 Management Units, or CMUs, are 358 00:12:39,492 --> 00:12:41,332 two units that the federal 359 00:12:41,328 --> 00:12:43,798 prison system established in 360 00:12:43,831 --> 00:12:46,971 2006 and 2007. 361 00:12:46,967 --> 00:12:48,967 There's one at the federal 362 00:12:48,969 --> 00:12:50,939 prison in Terre Haute, Indiana 363 00:12:50,938 --> 00:12:52,508 and another at the prison in 364 00:12:52,505 --> 00:12:54,365 Marion, Illinois. 365 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:57,514 They exist to very radically 366 00:12:57,510 --> 00:12:59,450 restrict any kind of 367 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:01,346 communication between prisoners 368 00:13:01,348 --> 00:13:04,118 and the outside world. 369 00:13:04,117 --> 00:13:05,347 >> STEPANIAN: They were 370 00:13:05,352 --> 00:13:06,852 developed secretively by the 371 00:13:06,854 --> 00:13:08,394 former Director of the Bureau of 372 00:13:08,388 --> 00:13:11,118 Prisons, named Harley Lappin. 373 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:13,834 Harley Lappin introduced, uh, 374 00:13:13,827 --> 00:13:15,357 in about 2004, a plan to 375 00:13:15,362 --> 00:13:16,832 Congress to develop something 376 00:13:16,830 --> 00:13:18,370 called the CTU, Counter 377 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:19,365 Terrorism Unit. 378 00:13:19,366 --> 00:13:19,896 >> CONGRESSMAN: Objection! 379 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,370 A motion to reconsider is laid 380 00:13:21,368 --> 00:13:22,398 upon the table. 381 00:13:22,402 --> 00:13:23,042 >> STEPANIAN: Both Democrats and 382 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:24,236 Republicans struck it down, 383 00:13:24,237 --> 00:13:25,867 because it kind of smacked of 384 00:13:25,873 --> 00:13:26,973 racial and ethnic 385 00:13:26,974 --> 00:13:29,414 discrimination. 386 00:13:29,409 --> 00:13:30,509 >> NARRATOR: In spite of the 387 00:13:30,510 --> 00:13:32,410 bi-partisan objections, the 388 00:13:32,412 --> 00:13:35,082 Federal Bureau of Prisons opened 389 00:13:35,082 --> 00:13:37,422 these CMUs and started filling 390 00:13:37,417 --> 00:13:38,987 them. 391 00:13:38,986 --> 00:13:41,016 But why? 392 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:43,161 Were the prisons created to 393 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:46,386 serve another, more secret 394 00:13:46,393 --> 00:13:48,333 government agenda? 395 00:13:51,031 --> 00:13:52,401 >> WILL POTTER: Within those 396 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,899 prison yards and prison walls, 397 00:13:54,902 --> 00:13:56,642 you have a separate unit for 398 00:13:56,636 --> 00:13:57,636 people that the government 399 00:13:57,637 --> 00:13:59,237 describes as having, quote, 400 00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:03,182 "inspirational significance." 401 00:14:03,176 --> 00:14:05,446 I would argue that's a euphemism 402 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:07,975 for political prisoners. 403 00:14:07,981 --> 00:14:09,421 >> NARRATOR: But with only five 404 00:14:09,416 --> 00:14:11,276 and a half months remaining in 405 00:14:11,284 --> 00:14:13,154 his sentence, why was a 406 00:14:13,153 --> 00:14:15,023 relatively harmless prisoner 407 00:14:15,022 --> 00:14:17,192 like Andrew Stepanian 408 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:19,330 transferred to such a maximum 409 00:14:19,326 --> 00:14:21,586 security facility and placed in 410 00:14:21,594 --> 00:14:23,534 the company of convicted 411 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,600 terrorists? 412 00:14:25,598 --> 00:14:27,128 >> FATHI: What's very concerning 413 00:14:27,134 --> 00:14:30,004 about the CMUs is that over... 414 00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:31,303 over two-thirds of the prisoner 415 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:33,444 population are Arab or Muslim 416 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,910 prisoners. 417 00:14:36,910 --> 00:14:38,350 Despite the fact that Arabs and 418 00:14:38,345 --> 00:14:40,175 Muslims are a tiny fraction of 419 00:14:40,180 --> 00:14:42,280 the entire U.S. prison 420 00:14:42,282 --> 00:14:43,582 population. 421 00:14:43,583 --> 00:14:45,453 So it certainly raises, uh, the 422 00:14:45,452 --> 00:14:48,222 possibility that people are 423 00:14:48,221 --> 00:14:49,591 being sent there, uh, for 424 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:51,622 discriminatory reasons. 425 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:52,634 >> DANIEL VASQUEZ: All prisons 426 00:14:52,625 --> 00:14:54,155 have missions. 427 00:14:54,161 --> 00:14:56,101 The Communication Management 428 00:14:56,096 --> 00:14:59,096 Unit is designed to house 429 00:14:59,099 --> 00:15:00,629 individuals that are terrorists 430 00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:01,633 and are a threat to our 431 00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:03,204 communities and that's their 432 00:15:03,236 --> 00:15:05,636 mission. 433 00:15:05,638 --> 00:15:07,108 The federal government began to 434 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,107 see continued communication with 435 00:15:09,109 --> 00:15:10,639 other terrorist links and 436 00:15:10,643 --> 00:15:13,213 decided to concentrate these 437 00:15:13,213 --> 00:15:16,653 individuals into a CMU. 438 00:15:16,649 --> 00:15:18,119 >> NARRATOR: Confused and 439 00:15:18,118 --> 00:15:20,118 frightened, inmate Andrew 440 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,490 Stepanian wondered just why he 441 00:15:22,489 --> 00:15:24,259 had been sent to a prison where 442 00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:26,087 the majority of prisoners were 443 00:15:26,093 --> 00:15:28,133 Muslim and were involved in 444 00:15:28,128 --> 00:15:30,958 criminal acts of terror on a far 445 00:15:30,964 --> 00:15:34,504 greater scale than his own. 446 00:15:34,501 --> 00:15:36,541 And then, one day, Stepanian 447 00:15:36,536 --> 00:15:39,066 learned he was being used as 448 00:15:39,072 --> 00:15:42,142 what's called a "balancer." 449 00:15:42,142 --> 00:15:43,342 >> STEPANIAN: I first heard the 450 00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:45,083 term "balancer" from a guard. 451 00:15:45,078 --> 00:15:47,008 While I was doing my laundry, 452 00:15:47,014 --> 00:15:48,124 a guard stopped next to the 453 00:15:48,115 --> 00:15:49,645 washing machine, and he said, 454 00:15:49,649 --> 00:15:50,649 "Kid, I want you to keep your 455 00:15:50,650 --> 00:15:51,420 head up. 456 00:15:51,418 --> 00:15:53,018 You're only here for balance." 457 00:15:53,020 --> 00:15:54,120 He says, "You're not like the 458 00:15:54,121 --> 00:15:55,621 rest of these Muslim guys. 459 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:57,222 You're only here for balance. 460 00:15:57,224 --> 00:15:58,034 You're gonna go home soon 461 00:15:58,025 --> 00:15:59,025 enough." 462 00:15:59,026 --> 00:16:00,526 If that was truthful, if that 463 00:16:00,527 --> 00:16:02,227 guard was privy to information 464 00:16:02,229 --> 00:16:04,529 that I was just there to offset 465 00:16:04,531 --> 00:16:06,771 the racial disparity, um, that 466 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:08,536 is somewhat eye-opening. 467 00:16:08,535 --> 00:16:09,565 VASQUEZ: Is it politically 468 00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:10,639 correct? 469 00:16:10,637 --> 00:16:12,037 Probably not. 470 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:13,539 Is it receiving a lot of legal 471 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:14,540 scrutiny? 472 00:16:14,541 --> 00:16:16,181 Yes, it is. 473 00:16:16,176 --> 00:16:17,576 So, I think they began to 474 00:16:17,577 --> 00:16:19,177 identify terrorists that have 475 00:16:19,179 --> 00:16:20,179 been convicted in the United 476 00:16:20,180 --> 00:16:21,180 States. 477 00:16:21,181 --> 00:16:22,181 They're there to take the 478 00:16:22,182 --> 00:16:23,282 pressure of litigation off by 479 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:24,723 bringing in those other 480 00:16:24,717 --> 00:16:26,717 individuals that are not Muslim 481 00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:28,789 that seemed to be balancing that 482 00:16:28,788 --> 00:16:30,418 population. 483 00:16:30,423 --> 00:16:31,423 >> POTTER: There's been national 484 00:16:31,424 --> 00:16:32,734 discussion about places like 485 00:16:32,725 --> 00:16:34,785 Guantanamo Bay, but most people 486 00:16:34,794 --> 00:16:36,564 have absolutely no idea 487 00:16:36,563 --> 00:16:38,203 that these places exist on 488 00:16:38,198 --> 00:16:41,398 American soil, in our hometowns. 489 00:16:41,401 --> 00:16:42,601 They're prisons within prisons 490 00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:44,702 that are some ways even worse 491 00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:46,274 than the most extreme prison 492 00:16:46,273 --> 00:16:48,443 units in the country. 493 00:16:48,441 --> 00:16:49,581 >> NARRATOR: Does the United 494 00:16:49,576 --> 00:16:51,436 States government really operate 495 00:16:51,444 --> 00:16:54,614 secret terrorist prisons? 496 00:16:54,614 --> 00:16:57,354 Prisons that serve as "American 497 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:59,090 Gitmos," and whose populations 498 00:16:59,086 --> 00:17:02,756 are overwhelmingly Muslim? 499 00:17:02,755 --> 00:17:05,085 And are non-Muslims like Andrew 500 00:17:05,092 --> 00:17:07,092 Stepanian really used as 501 00:17:07,094 --> 00:17:09,464 so-called "balancers" in an 502 00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:12,202 effort to avoid charges of 503 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:14,229 racism and racial profiling on 504 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,774 the part of the government? 505 00:17:16,769 --> 00:17:19,209 Men like Andrew Stepanian 506 00:17:19,206 --> 00:17:22,476 believe the answer is yes. 507 00:17:22,475 --> 00:17:24,375 But there are also those who 508 00:17:24,377 --> 00:17:26,107 believe there is yet 509 00:17:26,113 --> 00:17:28,123 another, perhaps more shocking 510 00:17:28,115 --> 00:17:31,345 agenda involving America's 511 00:17:31,351 --> 00:17:32,621 prisons. 512 00:17:32,619 --> 00:17:35,619 One that involves trading human 513 00:17:35,622 --> 00:17:39,632 beings for cold, hard cash. 514 00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,443 >> NARRATOR: Wilkes-Barre, 515 00:17:52,439 --> 00:17:56,439 Pennsylvania. 2003. 516 00:17:56,443 --> 00:17:57,843 At the Luzerne County 517 00:17:57,844 --> 00:18:00,614 Courthouse, 17-year-old Edward 518 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:03,183 Kenzakoski, stands before Judge 519 00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:05,253 Mark Ciavarella Jr., accused of 520 00:18:05,252 --> 00:18:07,752 possession of marijuana 521 00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:11,124 that was not even his. 522 00:18:11,124 --> 00:18:14,334 In just minutes, Kenzakoski is 523 00:18:14,327 --> 00:18:16,197 shackled and sentenced to 30 524 00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:19,396 days in a youth jail and four 525 00:18:19,399 --> 00:18:21,329 months of boot camp. 526 00:18:22,402 --> 00:18:23,402 >> ALEX FRIEDMANN: You have kids 527 00:18:23,403 --> 00:18:25,373 who were literally writing on 528 00:18:25,372 --> 00:18:27,742 their desks or posting inane 529 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,680 comments on Facebook, and they 530 00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:31,536 were putting them in these 531 00:18:31,544 --> 00:18:33,654 secure juvenile facilities. 532 00:18:33,646 --> 00:18:35,816 And that can have a-a 533 00:18:35,815 --> 00:18:37,645 devastating impact on a child's 534 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:39,820 life, to lock them up like a 535 00:18:39,819 --> 00:18:41,749 hardened criminal. 536 00:18:43,656 --> 00:18:45,156 >> NARRATOR: In 2008, the 537 00:18:45,158 --> 00:18:47,288 Federal Bureau of Investigation 538 00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:48,704 discovered that Judge 539 00:18:48,695 --> 00:18:50,655 Ciavarella, and fellow Judge 540 00:18:50,663 --> 00:18:52,503 Michael Conohan, had been hiding 541 00:18:52,499 --> 00:18:56,139 a secret for years. 542 00:18:57,704 --> 00:18:58,714 >> FATHI: A juvenile court 543 00:18:58,705 --> 00:18:59,705 judge was actually accepting 544 00:18:59,706 --> 00:19:01,836 money from private prison 545 00:19:01,841 --> 00:19:03,711 operators and then sentencing 546 00:19:03,710 --> 00:19:05,450 children who came before him 547 00:19:05,445 --> 00:19:07,175 in his courtroom to be 548 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:09,150 incarcerated in those prisons. 549 00:19:10,183 --> 00:19:11,183 >> NARRATOR: In total, the 550 00:19:11,184 --> 00:19:13,854 judges received over $2 million 551 00:19:13,853 --> 00:19:15,963 in kickbacks from the builders 552 00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:17,455 and developers of two 553 00:19:17,457 --> 00:19:19,327 for-profit juvenile detention 554 00:19:19,326 --> 00:19:21,286 centers. 555 00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:23,464 The unimaginable crime rocked 556 00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:26,203 the nation and was coined 557 00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:28,169 "the Kids for Cash scandal." 558 00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:30,269 >> HICKEY: They're marked for 559 00:19:30,270 --> 00:19:31,270 life and they're traumatized for 560 00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:32,341 life because a judge wanted to 561 00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:34,309 make a little extra money. 562 00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:37,482 >> NARRATOR: In June 2010, 563 00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:38,747 former prisoner Edward 564 00:19:38,745 --> 00:19:41,705 Kenzakoski committed suicide. 565 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:43,484 Friends and family say it was 566 00:19:43,483 --> 00:19:45,323 the life-altering experiences in 567 00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:46,888 juvenile detention that haunted 568 00:19:46,886 --> 00:19:50,356 him, and ultimately sent him 569 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:53,357 to his grave. 570 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,430 On August 11, 2011, Judge Mark 571 00:19:56,429 --> 00:19:58,899 Ciavarella was sentenced to 28 572 00:19:58,898 --> 00:20:01,968 years in jail for 12 counts that 573 00:20:01,968 --> 00:20:04,768 included racketeering and 574 00:20:04,771 --> 00:20:07,341 conspiracy. 575 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:09,240 >> My kid's not here, he's dead! 576 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:10,582 Because of him! 577 00:20:10,577 --> 00:20:11,607 Do you remember me? 578 00:20:11,611 --> 00:20:12,751 Do you remember me? 579 00:20:12,745 --> 00:20:14,245 Do you remember my son? 580 00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:16,517 An all-star wrestler, he's gone! 581 00:20:16,516 --> 00:20:17,746 He shot himself in the heart. 582 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:21,250 You scumbag! 583 00:20:21,254 --> 00:20:23,264 >> NARRATOR: On September 23, 584 00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:26,256 2011, Judge Michael Conohan was 585 00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:28,899 sentenced to 17 and a half years 586 00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:31,025 in federal prison after he also 587 00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:33,270 pled guilty to racketeering and 588 00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:36,266 conspiracy. 589 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:38,469 But was this Kids for Cash 590 00:20:38,471 --> 00:20:41,671 scandal an isolated incident? 591 00:20:41,674 --> 00:20:44,014 Or might it be just the tip of 592 00:20:44,010 --> 00:20:46,650 the iceberg, suggesting even 593 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:49,416 more profitable, secret prison 594 00:20:49,416 --> 00:20:51,346 agendas? 595 00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:57,417 August 14, 2013. 596 00:20:57,424 --> 00:21:00,034 The Economist reports that the 597 00:21:00,026 --> 00:21:02,796 United States, a country made 598 00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:04,625 up of only five percent of the 599 00:21:04,631 --> 00:21:06,571 global population, actually 600 00:21:06,566 --> 00:21:09,966 imprisons 25% of the world's 601 00:21:09,969 --> 00:21:12,309 inmates. 602 00:21:12,305 --> 00:21:13,935 And shockingly, about one in 603 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:16,940 every 107 Americans 604 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:18,883 is incarcerated. 605 00:21:19,946 --> 00:21:20,946 >> ALEX JONES: The prison 606 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:21,947 population in the United States 607 00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:23,548 has surged 30% in the last 608 00:21:23,550 --> 00:21:25,080 decade alone. 609 00:21:25,084 --> 00:21:26,554 The United States has the 610 00:21:26,553 --> 00:21:27,993 largest prison population in the 611 00:21:27,987 --> 00:21:29,917 world, more than China that has 612 00:21:29,922 --> 00:21:31,862 over a billion people. 613 00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:36,604 >> NARRATOR: But why are there 614 00:21:36,596 --> 00:21:38,596 so many people incarcerated in 615 00:21:38,598 --> 00:21:40,568 the United States? 616 00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:42,601 >> VASQUEZ: Members of the 617 00:21:42,602 --> 00:21:43,872 legislature make themselves look 618 00:21:43,870 --> 00:21:45,410 like they were tough on crime 619 00:21:45,405 --> 00:21:46,735 for their constituents so they 620 00:21:46,739 --> 00:21:48,579 started increasing sentences for 621 00:21:48,575 --> 00:21:50,075 various crimes. 622 00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:51,476 Then we invented the three 623 00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:53,578 strike law. 624 00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:54,850 The war on drugs increased the 625 00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:56,417 federal prison population 626 00:21:56,416 --> 00:21:58,346 tremendously. 627 00:21:59,619 --> 00:22:01,019 >> NARRATOR: Some suggest that 628 00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:03,020 the privatization of prisons is 629 00:22:03,022 --> 00:22:05,692 also one of the driving forces 630 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:07,462 behind the staggering rise in 631 00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:08,860 incarceration rates in the 632 00:22:08,861 --> 00:22:12,501 United States. 633 00:22:12,499 --> 00:22:13,769 >> VASQUEZ: The private prisons 634 00:22:13,766 --> 00:22:15,596 began I guess maybe 30, 40 years 635 00:22:15,602 --> 00:22:17,102 ago. 636 00:22:17,103 --> 00:22:18,443 Corrections Corporation of 637 00:22:18,438 --> 00:22:19,638 America started with just a 638 00:22:19,639 --> 00:22:21,039 handful of people that believed 639 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,380 that they could make some money 640 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,635 when incarcerating people in-in 641 00:22:24,644 --> 00:22:25,984 a private setting, and they 642 00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:27,908 started small with city jails 643 00:22:27,914 --> 00:22:29,784 and county jails and they grew 644 00:22:29,782 --> 00:22:31,882 and grew and grew. 645 00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:32,894 >> FRIEDMANN: Corrections 646 00:22:32,885 --> 00:22:34,385 Corporation of America, or CCA 647 00:22:34,387 --> 00:22:35,657 is the nation's largest 648 00:22:35,655 --> 00:22:37,985 for-profit prison company. 649 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:39,890 They operate over 60 650 00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:41,032 correctional facilities 651 00:22:41,027 --> 00:22:42,757 nationwide. 652 00:22:42,762 --> 00:22:43,902 They have about, uh, 90,000 653 00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:45,896 correctional bed space. 654 00:22:45,898 --> 00:22:47,068 And they took in around $1.7 655 00:22:47,066 --> 00:22:49,466 billion in gross revenue 656 00:22:49,469 --> 00:22:51,539 last year. 657 00:22:51,538 --> 00:22:53,768 In the public sector prisons, 658 00:22:53,773 --> 00:22:55,413 you're basically a number. 659 00:22:55,408 --> 00:22:56,608 In the private prisons, you're a 660 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:57,609 number with a dollar sign in 661 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,550 front of it. 662 00:23:00,613 --> 00:23:01,613 >> MANCOW MULLER: Our government 663 00:23:01,614 --> 00:23:02,624 has made deals with the private 664 00:23:02,615 --> 00:23:03,675 corporations that own these 665 00:23:03,683 --> 00:23:04,783 prisons they have to be stocked 666 00:23:04,784 --> 00:23:06,054 at least 90%. 667 00:23:06,052 --> 00:23:07,152 They have to keep the beds full. 668 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:08,153 We're inventory. 669 00:23:08,154 --> 00:23:09,164 And they got to keep the shelves 670 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:11,085 stocked. 671 00:23:12,158 --> 00:23:13,158 >> FRIEDMANN: The Associated 672 00:23:13,159 --> 00:23:14,159 Press in 2012 reported that the 673 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,960 three top private prison 674 00:23:16,963 --> 00:23:17,963 companies CCA, Geo Group, and 675 00:23:17,964 --> 00:23:20,574 MTC had spent around $45 676 00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:22,637 million over a 10-year period in 677 00:23:22,635 --> 00:23:24,565 campaign donations and lobbying 678 00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:26,641 expenses alone. 679 00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:28,069 We're talking some serious 680 00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:29,584 money. 681 00:23:29,576 --> 00:23:30,776 >> FATHI: Nobody makes campaign 682 00:23:30,777 --> 00:23:31,977 contributions expecting nothing 683 00:23:31,978 --> 00:23:35,818 in return. 684 00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:36,975 >> NARRATOR: With the exchange 685 00:23:36,983 --> 00:23:38,953 of campaign contributions for 686 00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:41,591 legislative promises, can 687 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:44,058 citizens ever be sure prisons 688 00:23:44,056 --> 00:23:45,826 are operating in the best 689 00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:49,525 interest of the public? 690 00:23:49,529 --> 00:23:50,999 >> FRIEDMANN: 95% of all 691 00:23:50,997 --> 00:23:53,127 prisoners will one day get out. 692 00:23:53,132 --> 00:23:54,232 These prisoners who are 693 00:23:54,233 --> 00:23:55,473 incarcerated in these for-profit 694 00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:56,968 prisons, which have no incentive 695 00:23:56,969 --> 00:23:58,569 to rehabilitate anyone because 696 00:23:58,571 --> 00:24:00,741 if prisoners don't come back, 697 00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:02,480 well, that's just another dollar 698 00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:03,735 not in their pocket. 699 00:24:03,743 --> 00:24:06,013 When they get out, they tend 700 00:24:06,012 --> 00:24:07,152 to commit more crimes. 701 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:08,876 That's what the research shows. 702 00:24:08,881 --> 00:24:10,151 That is really the danger 703 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:11,749 to the public. 704 00:24:14,754 --> 00:24:15,994 >> NARRATOR: But while some may 705 00:24:15,988 --> 00:24:17,618 see America's "prisons for 706 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,634 profit" system as frightening, 707 00:24:19,626 --> 00:24:22,696 there is another perhaps even 708 00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:26,025 more terrifying concern: 709 00:24:26,032 --> 00:24:28,742 that virtually anyone 710 00:24:28,735 --> 00:24:31,995 can end up behind bars... 711 00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:34,144 and for no reason other than 712 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:37,480 a case of mistaken identity. 713 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,018 >> NARRATOR: Los Angeles, 714 00:24:50,022 --> 00:24:54,832 California, June 5, 2007. 715 00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:57,297 Hector Veloz, a United States 716 00:24:57,296 --> 00:24:59,626 citizen and lifelong resident 717 00:24:59,632 --> 00:25:01,572 of California, is preparing for 718 00:25:01,568 --> 00:25:03,998 his release from a state prison 719 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:06,173 after serving six months for 720 00:25:06,172 --> 00:25:08,042 receiving stolen property. 721 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,010 But just as he thinks he is 722 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:12,139 being freed, Veloz is told that 723 00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:14,714 he will not be going home 724 00:25:14,714 --> 00:25:16,184 as planned. 725 00:25:16,182 --> 00:25:17,722 >> HECTOR VELOZ: As we were 726 00:25:17,717 --> 00:25:18,747 being processed for release, 727 00:25:18,751 --> 00:25:21,021 uh, myself and probably 728 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,660 about four other inmates were 729 00:25:23,656 --> 00:25:25,726 held back... 730 00:25:25,725 --> 00:25:27,985 only to be told that I was going 731 00:25:28,027 --> 00:25:30,127 to be processed for deportation. 732 00:25:30,129 --> 00:25:31,629 It's the greatest insult when 733 00:25:31,631 --> 00:25:33,031 someone tells you to your face 734 00:25:33,032 --> 00:25:34,332 that you're not an American 735 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,343 citizen. 736 00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:38,335 >> NARRATOR: Veloz says he was 737 00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:41,207 then transferred to an unmarked 738 00:25:41,207 --> 00:25:43,177 processing site in Bakersfield, 739 00:25:43,175 --> 00:25:46,875 California run by Immigration 740 00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:49,949 and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, 741 00:25:49,949 --> 00:25:51,349 and the Department of Homeland 742 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:53,290 Security. 743 00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:54,615 >> VELOZ: You're at a transfer 744 00:25:54,621 --> 00:25:55,821 facility for ICE. 745 00:25:55,822 --> 00:25:57,162 It just looks like 746 00:25:57,156 --> 00:25:58,156 a building, a station. 747 00:25:58,157 --> 00:25:59,827 There's no formal signs as 748 00:25:59,826 --> 00:26:00,956 you're walking in or anything 749 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,090 that tell you you're actually 750 00:26:02,094 --> 00:26:04,064 in care or custody of ICE 751 00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:05,633 officials. 752 00:26:05,632 --> 00:26:07,102 >> NARRATOR: According to other 753 00:26:07,099 --> 00:26:09,239 insiders, the secret location is 754 00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:13,335 just one of more than 180 sites 755 00:26:13,339 --> 00:26:16,109 known as "field offices" or 756 00:26:16,108 --> 00:26:18,848 "processing facilities" being 757 00:26:18,845 --> 00:26:21,645 hidden from the American public. 758 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:25,316 >> ARULANANTHAM: We're right in 759 00:26:25,351 --> 00:26:27,351 downtown Los Angeles. 760 00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:28,723 Behind me is the Federal 761 00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:30,691 Building, and this is the front 762 00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:32,090 entrance, but you'd never know 763 00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:33,231 that underneath it is 764 00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:35,259 a hidden prison. 765 00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:37,401 So when someone's standing in 766 00:26:37,396 --> 00:26:38,866 the Federal Building, or even on 767 00:26:38,865 --> 00:26:40,725 the sidewalk, there are 768 00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:42,273 literally underneath your feet 769 00:26:42,268 --> 00:26:44,798 people in a prison being held by 770 00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:46,274 the Department of Homeland 771 00:26:46,272 --> 00:26:47,742 Security. 772 00:26:47,740 --> 00:26:48,880 >> NARRATOR: Is the U.S. 773 00:26:48,875 --> 00:26:50,705 government really detaining 774 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:52,880 immigrants-- even American 775 00:26:52,879 --> 00:26:54,849 citizens-- and hiding them in 776 00:26:54,847 --> 00:26:56,147 plain sight? 777 00:26:56,148 --> 00:26:57,148 >> ARULANANTHAM: Seeing this 778 00:26:57,149 --> 00:26:58,249 driveway here, and it being 779 00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:00,020 LA, you'd think it was a 780 00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:01,419 parking lot, uh, but actually if 781 00:27:01,420 --> 00:27:04,120 you go down there, that is the 782 00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:05,263 entrance into an underground 783 00:27:05,257 --> 00:27:07,027 detention center where the 784 00:27:07,026 --> 00:27:09,426 Department of Homeland Security, 785 00:27:09,428 --> 00:27:11,398 imprisons immigrants while it 786 00:27:11,397 --> 00:27:12,897 processes them to be sent to 787 00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:17,139 other locations for detention. 788 00:27:17,136 --> 00:27:18,296 >> NARRATOR: Although covert 789 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:20,144 processing centers are meant for 790 00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:23,009 short-term stays, 791 00:27:23,009 --> 00:27:26,709 anywhere from 12 to 24 hours, 792 00:27:26,713 --> 00:27:27,913 there are those who claim 793 00:27:27,914 --> 00:27:29,924 these centers actually detain 794 00:27:29,916 --> 00:27:32,716 people for days, weeks, 795 00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:35,789 and even months at a time. 796 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:36,888 >> ARULANANTHAM: There were 797 00:27:36,889 --> 00:27:38,319 people who spent literally 798 00:27:38,324 --> 00:27:39,764 several weeks without 799 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:41,759 brushing their teeth, changing 800 00:27:41,761 --> 00:27:43,431 their clothing, showering, 801 00:27:43,429 --> 00:27:45,159 without being able to make 802 00:27:45,164 --> 00:27:46,774 a phone call. 803 00:27:46,766 --> 00:27:48,196 And when you have 50 people 804 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,940 using one or two toilets, you 805 00:27:50,937 --> 00:27:53,467 can imagine what that's like. 806 00:27:53,472 --> 00:27:55,882 >> NARRATOR: After two days 807 00:27:55,875 --> 00:27:58,775 spent in a holding cell, Hector 808 00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,808 Veloz says he was flown to Eloy, 809 00:28:00,813 --> 00:28:04,083 Arizona and locked up in an 810 00:28:04,083 --> 00:28:06,453 ICE detention facility. 811 00:28:06,452 --> 00:28:09,192 There, he spent two weeks behind 812 00:28:09,188 --> 00:28:11,958 bars before he could even see 813 00:28:11,958 --> 00:28:15,188 a judge to plea for his freedom. 814 00:28:15,194 --> 00:28:17,204 >> VELOZ: I submit my parents' 815 00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:18,356 birth certificates and my birth 816 00:28:18,364 --> 00:28:19,804 certificates, and I think, with 817 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:20,969 all the birth certificates, it 818 00:28:20,967 --> 00:28:22,297 should pretty much clear it up. 819 00:28:22,334 --> 00:28:24,344 And it doesn't. 820 00:28:24,336 --> 00:28:25,466 >>> VASQUEZ: Some people spend 821 00:28:25,471 --> 00:28:26,811 years and years in prison, 822 00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:28,206 and you hear those stories 823 00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:31,207 all the time: mistaken identity, 824 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:32,210 bad witnesses. 825 00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,981 Those things happen, 826 00:28:34,981 --> 00:28:37,051 and it take years to unravel, 827 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:40,219 so you know it happens. 828 00:28:40,219 --> 00:28:42,219 The system will make mistakes. 829 00:28:42,221 --> 00:28:43,391 >> NARRATOR: Even after Veloz 830 00:28:43,389 --> 00:28:45,829 submitted his birth certificate, 831 00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:47,855 legal briefs he prepared 832 00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:49,060 himself, 833 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,231 and a court appearance by his 834 00:28:51,230 --> 00:28:55,270 father, a decorated Vietnam War 835 00:28:55,267 --> 00:28:58,237 veteran, it still took 13 months 836 00:28:58,237 --> 00:29:01,007 before he was finally recognized 837 00:29:01,007 --> 00:29:03,537 as a U.S. citizen and set free. 838 00:29:03,542 --> 00:29:04,882 >> MULLER: The government picked 839 00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:06,407 this guy up, put him in jail 840 00:29:06,412 --> 00:29:07,812 for over a year. Sorry. 841 00:29:07,814 --> 00:29:09,084 This doesn't happen in America. 842 00:29:09,081 --> 00:29:10,121 Oh, wait a minute. 843 00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:12,149 Yeah, it does. 844 00:29:12,151 --> 00:29:13,421 I can't imagine what he was 845 00:29:13,419 --> 00:29:14,419 thinking sitting there. 846 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:15,860 I mean, it's-it's the stuff 847 00:29:15,855 --> 00:29:18,255 of nightmares. 848 00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:20,027 >> NARRATOR: It is estimated 849 00:29:20,026 --> 00:29:24,256 that Veloz's detention cost U.S. 850 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:25,433 taxpayers tens of thousands of 851 00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:27,271 dollars to house him. 852 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,296 And Veloz is just one of 853 00:29:29,301 --> 00:29:32,171 hundreds of American citizens 854 00:29:32,171 --> 00:29:34,911 wrongfully detained. 855 00:29:34,907 --> 00:29:38,437 Reportedly, there were roughly 856 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,554 800 U.S. citizens 857 00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:42,046 in ICE detention 858 00:29:42,048 --> 00:29:46,148 between 2008 and 2012. 859 00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:48,185 But why? 860 00:29:48,187 --> 00:29:49,287 >> SULLIVAN: Critics believe 861 00:29:49,288 --> 00:29:50,918 that private prison corporations 862 00:29:50,923 --> 00:29:53,063 have been driving the country's 863 00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:54,589 immigration policy. 864 00:29:54,593 --> 00:29:56,063 They believe that they're 865 00:29:56,062 --> 00:29:57,332 lobbying for policies that will 866 00:29:57,329 --> 00:29:59,999 lock up more immigrants. 867 00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:01,869 >> FATHI: About half of all 868 00:30:01,868 --> 00:30:03,438 immigrants who are detained by 869 00:30:03,435 --> 00:30:04,865 the federal government 870 00:30:04,904 --> 00:30:06,944 are housed in private prisons. 871 00:30:06,939 --> 00:30:08,139 >> VELOZ: It makes you wonder: 872 00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:10,310 who's on the payroll, 873 00:30:10,309 --> 00:30:12,949 who's really gaining from this? 874 00:30:12,945 --> 00:30:15,045 I didn't. 875 00:30:15,047 --> 00:30:16,077 >> NARRATOR: But while hundreds 876 00:30:16,082 --> 00:30:18,082 of U.S. citizens are wrongly 877 00:30:18,084 --> 00:30:20,094 detained in federal immigration 878 00:30:20,086 --> 00:30:22,956 facilities, there are those who 879 00:30:22,955 --> 00:30:25,315 believe there now exists a 880 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,234 growing number of other equally 881 00:30:27,226 --> 00:30:31,326 insidious secret prisons, 882 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:32,600 facilities which appear 883 00:30:32,598 --> 00:30:35,628 to be benign but whose secret 884 00:30:35,634 --> 00:30:37,904 purpose may pose the ultimate 885 00:30:37,904 --> 00:30:41,614 threat to America's freedoms. 886 00:30:50,616 --> 00:30:51,946 >> NARRATOR: New Orleans, 887 00:30:51,951 --> 00:30:56,961 Louisiana, August 29, 2005. 888 00:30:56,956 --> 00:30:59,326 Hurricane Katrina destroys 889 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:03,325 everything in its path, 890 00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,629 including local and state 891 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:07,571 prisons. 892 00:31:07,566 --> 00:31:11,336 A state of emergency is 893 00:31:11,337 --> 00:31:13,107 declared, which many believe is 894 00:31:13,105 --> 00:31:16,635 a de facto form of martial law. 895 00:31:16,642 --> 00:31:20,382 FEMA, the Federal Emergency 896 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:23,379 Management Agency, mobilizes 897 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,652 camps for the displaced. 898 00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:27,521 And state and federal 899 00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:29,489 authorities transform a 900 00:31:29,488 --> 00:31:31,958 Greyhound bus station into a 901 00:31:31,958 --> 00:31:35,428 makeshift jail aptly named, 902 00:31:35,461 --> 00:31:39,131 "Camp Greyhound." 903 00:31:39,131 --> 00:31:40,471 >> JOE JOSEPH: We saw Hurricane 904 00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:42,096 Katrina and how many people got 905 00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:44,604 displaced as a result of that. 906 00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:47,013 There's a legitimate need for 907 00:31:47,006 --> 00:31:49,376 the federal government to have a 908 00:31:49,375 --> 00:31:50,535 contingency plan in the event of 909 00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:54,412 a disaster. 910 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:55,413 >> NARRATOR: Brigantine, New 911 00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:56,654 Jersey. 912 00:31:56,648 --> 00:31:58,578 October 29, 2012. 913 00:32:01,020 --> 00:32:03,960 Hurricane Sandy wipes out 914 00:32:03,956 --> 00:32:06,526 thousands of homes in New York 915 00:32:06,525 --> 00:32:09,155 and New Jersey. 916 00:32:09,161 --> 00:32:12,401 45,000 National Guard and Air 917 00:32:12,398 --> 00:32:15,228 Force personnel are deployed to 918 00:32:15,234 --> 00:32:17,444 over seven states to respond to 919 00:32:17,436 --> 00:32:20,166 the emergency. 920 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:22,712 As with Katrina, tens of 921 00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:24,978 thousands of residents are left 922 00:32:24,977 --> 00:32:27,707 homeless, and once again, as 923 00:32:27,713 --> 00:32:30,423 they had after Katrina, FEMA 924 00:32:30,416 --> 00:32:32,576 sets up temporary encampments to 925 00:32:32,584 --> 00:32:34,424 house the victims in tents and 926 00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:36,360 trailers. 927 00:32:38,991 --> 00:32:41,431 But although few could argue why 928 00:32:41,427 --> 00:32:43,457 such an extraordinary disaster 929 00:32:43,462 --> 00:32:45,732 should require such an equally 930 00:32:45,731 --> 00:32:48,071 extraordinary response, there 931 00:32:48,067 --> 00:32:50,567 are many who claim these refugee 932 00:32:50,569 --> 00:32:54,009 sites operated more like prisons 933 00:32:54,006 --> 00:32:56,176 than shelters. 934 00:32:56,175 --> 00:32:58,075 And that, they believe, was no 935 00:32:58,077 --> 00:33:00,047 accident. 936 00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:04,282 >> VASQUEZ: They had them 937 00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:05,483 confined, they were feeding 938 00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:07,594 them, they were providing a bed 939 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:09,456 and an environment to live in. 940 00:33:09,455 --> 00:33:12,685 The camps had to have security. 941 00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:14,691 You're taking in thousands of 942 00:33:14,693 --> 00:33:16,503 people and-and you don't know 943 00:33:16,495 --> 00:33:17,495 anything about those 944 00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:18,626 individuals. 945 00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:20,470 Some could be criminals. 946 00:33:20,466 --> 00:33:21,696 They've committed murderers, 947 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:23,700 they're doing drugs, so you have 948 00:33:23,702 --> 00:33:25,502 to provide that balance of 949 00:33:25,504 --> 00:33:27,244 security, because it's an 950 00:33:27,239 --> 00:33:29,109 unknown. 951 00:33:29,108 --> 00:33:30,778 >> MULLER: These FEMA camps that 952 00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:32,506 spring up after something like a 953 00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:33,781 hurricane, right? 954 00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,509 You've lost everything and when 955 00:33:35,514 --> 00:33:36,784 you go to a FEMA camp, they tell 956 00:33:36,782 --> 00:33:38,482 you, "You're not allowed to talk 957 00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:39,754 the media, did you know that?" 958 00:33:39,785 --> 00:33:41,485 Why? 959 00:33:41,487 --> 00:33:43,117 >> JOSEPH: While it's 960 00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:45,122 responsible for government to 961 00:33:45,124 --> 00:33:47,794 provide for catastrophe response 962 00:33:47,793 --> 00:33:50,533 or for a national emergency, the 963 00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:53,529 problem is the characteristics 964 00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:56,402 of a FEMA camp is that the 965 00:33:56,402 --> 00:33:58,802 fences have razor wire or barbed 966 00:33:58,804 --> 00:34:01,674 wire that's pointing inward. 967 00:34:01,673 --> 00:34:03,813 Meaning that it's meant to keep 968 00:34:03,809 --> 00:34:05,779 people in, not keep people out. 969 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,120 >> NARRATOR: Could the 970 00:34:10,116 --> 00:34:11,676 military-like tactics used in 971 00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:13,823 running FEMA camps really be 972 00:34:13,819 --> 00:34:17,289 serving as a type of dry run? 973 00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:19,559 One that is being orchestrated 974 00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:22,328 to serve another, more secret 975 00:34:22,361 --> 00:34:23,701 agenda? 976 00:34:23,695 --> 00:34:24,695 >> MICHAEL RIVERO: There has 977 00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:25,826 been a long discussion over the 978 00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:27,171 possibility that the U.S. 979 00:34:27,166 --> 00:34:29,266 government is making contingency 980 00:34:29,268 --> 00:34:32,138 plans to deal with a mass civil 981 00:34:32,138 --> 00:34:34,108 uprising. 982 00:34:34,106 --> 00:34:35,836 And it centers on certain 983 00:34:35,841 --> 00:34:37,581 facilities which are in 984 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:40,106 existence, which are empty and 985 00:34:40,112 --> 00:34:41,582 which appear to be very rapidly 986 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,420 convertible to hold large 987 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,575 numbers of human beings. 988 00:34:45,584 --> 00:34:46,594 >> JONES: The government doesn't 989 00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:48,545 call them FEMA camps. 990 00:34:48,554 --> 00:34:49,564 They call them emergency 991 00:34:49,555 --> 00:34:50,655 centers. 992 00:34:50,656 --> 00:34:53,656 They call it the Civilian Inmate 993 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:55,592 Labor Camp Program. 994 00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:58,304 They call it Continuity of 995 00:34:58,297 --> 00:34:59,597 Government Emergency Relocation 996 00:34:59,598 --> 00:35:01,568 Centers. 997 00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:05,870 >> NARRATOR: Some fear that FEMA 998 00:35:05,871 --> 00:35:08,571 camps could signal a return to 999 00:35:08,574 --> 00:35:10,584 a troubling period of American 1000 00:35:10,576 --> 00:35:13,306 history when Japanese-American 1001 00:35:13,312 --> 00:35:16,682 citizens were rounded up, forced 1002 00:35:16,682 --> 00:35:17,882 to leave their homes and 1003 00:35:17,883 --> 00:35:19,893 businesses and placed in 1004 00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:21,745 detention camps during World 1005 00:35:21,753 --> 00:35:24,293 War II. 1006 00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:25,290 >> JOSEPH: You can't rule out 1007 00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:26,591 the fact that internment camps 1008 00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:27,632 could rear their ugly head in 1009 00:35:27,626 --> 00:35:29,626 the United States again. 1010 00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:30,898 And I say again. 1011 00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:32,156 They've happened before, it 1012 00:35:32,164 --> 00:35:35,604 could happen again. 1013 00:35:35,601 --> 00:35:36,601 >> JONES: They plan to round 1014 00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:38,442 people up the exact same way. 1015 00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:39,767 They got a list of where you 1016 00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:41,371 work, where you go to school, 1017 00:35:41,373 --> 00:35:43,243 what you do. 1018 00:35:43,242 --> 00:35:44,782 >> NARRATOR: Is the U.S. 1019 00:35:44,776 --> 00:35:46,606 government really trying to 1020 00:35:46,612 --> 00:35:48,252 prepare its citizens for a 1021 00:35:48,247 --> 00:35:49,917 future where they would be 1022 00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:52,375 rounded up and placed in 1023 00:35:52,384 --> 00:35:54,624 detention facilities where their 1024 00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:56,620 individual rights and freedoms 1025 00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:58,792 would be compromised? 1026 00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:00,530 And all in the name of the 1027 00:36:00,526 --> 00:36:02,626 common good? 1028 00:36:02,628 --> 00:36:04,858 Perhaps. 1029 00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:07,873 But such an outrageous notion 1030 00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:10,896 begins to take on an eerie 1031 00:36:10,902 --> 00:36:13,772 legitimacy when confronted with 1032 00:36:13,772 --> 00:36:15,672 the fact that hundreds of 1033 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:17,484 average U.S. citizens are 1034 00:36:17,476 --> 00:36:20,246 currently serving prison time, 1035 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:22,806 and for nothing more serious 1036 00:36:22,814 --> 00:36:25,954 than a clerical error. 1037 00:36:36,262 --> 00:36:38,262 >> NARRATOR: Herrin, Illinois. 1038 00:36:38,264 --> 00:36:41,674 Cancer survivor Lisa Lindsay is 1039 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:44,937 arrested and jailed for failing 1040 00:36:44,936 --> 00:36:48,936 to pay a $280 medical bill. 1041 00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:51,280 But according to Lindsay, the 1042 00:36:51,277 --> 00:36:53,677 bill is not hers. 1043 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,409 In fact, her name was 1044 00:36:55,414 --> 00:36:57,554 erroneously attached to the debt 1045 00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:00,649 by a collection agency. 1046 00:37:00,652 --> 00:37:04,662 Lindsay ends up paying $600 to 1047 00:37:04,656 --> 00:37:06,656 settle the mistaken charges, and 1048 00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:09,228 to get out of what some call a 1049 00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:11,701 "debtor's prison." 1050 00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:13,427 >> FATHI: Debtor's prison refers 1051 00:37:13,432 --> 00:37:15,702 to the practice of jailing a 1052 00:37:15,701 --> 00:37:18,441 person because he or she can't 1053 00:37:18,437 --> 00:37:20,667 afford, uh, to pay a fine. 1054 00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:23,712 Might be a very small fine. 1055 00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:24,909 >> SULLIVAN: There are thousands 1056 00:37:24,910 --> 00:37:26,680 of inmates in jails and in 1057 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:28,378 prisons across this country that 1058 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:30,650 are there because they can't 1059 00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:34,422 afford to pay their bills. 1060 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:35,450 >> FATHI: The Supreme Court 1061 00:37:35,454 --> 00:37:37,594 ruled more than 30 years ago 1062 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:39,289 that it's unconstitutional to 1063 00:37:39,291 --> 00:37:41,791 jail someone for failure to pay 1064 00:37:41,793 --> 00:37:43,703 a fine unless the court 1065 00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:45,295 specifically finds the person 1066 00:37:45,297 --> 00:37:46,867 could pay but is choosing not 1067 00:37:46,865 --> 00:37:47,995 to. 1068 00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:48,999 In other words, you're not 1069 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,470 supposed to be jailed just 1070 00:37:50,469 --> 00:37:53,709 because you're poor. 1071 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:54,865 >> NARRATOR: Debtor's prisons 1072 00:37:54,873 --> 00:37:56,813 were outlawed in the United 1073 00:37:56,808 --> 00:38:00,748 States nearly 200 years ago. 1074 00:38:00,746 --> 00:38:04,346 So how could they possibly exist 1075 00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:05,950 today? 1076 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,721 >> FATHI: People being jailed 1077 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,989 for debt tends to happen in 1078 00:38:08,987 --> 00:38:11,587 municipal courts in cases where 1079 00:38:11,590 --> 00:38:13,730 people don't have a lawyer. 1080 00:38:13,725 --> 00:38:14,755 And so it sort of flies under 1081 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,090 the radar. 1082 00:38:16,094 --> 00:38:18,764 And it's a population that's by 1083 00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:20,604 definition poor, uh, doesn't 1084 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:21,769 have political power, doesn't 1085 00:38:21,767 --> 00:38:22,997 have influence. 1086 00:38:23,001 --> 00:38:24,341 Doesn't get a lot of media 1087 00:38:24,370 --> 00:38:25,500 attention. 1088 00:38:25,504 --> 00:38:26,514 >> HICKEY: A person who's 1089 00:38:26,505 --> 00:38:27,905 arrested for having too many 1090 00:38:27,906 --> 00:38:28,906 speeding tickets and hasn't paid 1091 00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:31,037 them and then is put into a jail 1092 00:38:31,042 --> 00:38:32,912 and put into a cell with a 1093 00:38:32,911 --> 00:38:34,751 couple of rapists, the trauma 1094 00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:36,476 can be extremely severe and can 1095 00:38:36,515 --> 00:38:39,115 be very terrorizing to a person. 1096 00:38:39,117 --> 00:38:40,517 But sometimes in jails, because 1097 00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:42,049 of overcrowding, they'll put 1098 00:38:42,053 --> 00:38:44,063 them in with people who have 1099 00:38:44,055 --> 00:38:45,585 violent tendencies. 1100 00:38:45,591 --> 00:38:46,791 And so we have seen people who 1101 00:38:46,792 --> 00:38:48,462 have been assaulted. 1102 00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:50,360 >> NARRATOR: Could it really be 1103 00:38:50,362 --> 00:38:52,762 that easy for people to be 1104 00:38:52,764 --> 00:38:55,774 locked up due to clerical errors 1105 00:38:55,767 --> 00:38:59,067 or simply a few missed payments? 1106 00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:01,670 And if this can happen to any 1107 00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,083 American, should the public pay 1108 00:39:04,075 --> 00:39:06,805 closer attention to how our 1109 00:39:06,812 --> 00:39:09,622 prison system operates and what 1110 00:39:09,615 --> 00:39:11,875 secrets it may be hiding? 1111 00:39:13,952 --> 00:39:15,422 >> HICKEY: Everyone wants to see 1112 00:39:15,421 --> 00:39:16,421 what's happening within those 1113 00:39:16,422 --> 00:39:17,422 institutions. 1114 00:39:17,423 --> 00:39:18,093 And it's like they want to get 1115 00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:19,089 to the edge and look over the 1116 00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:20,090 cliff and see what's in there, 1117 00:39:20,091 --> 00:39:20,691 but they don't want to really 1118 00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:21,632 jump. 1119 00:39:21,627 --> 00:39:22,487 Because once you go behind 1120 00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:23,134 closed doors, no one knows what 1121 00:39:23,128 --> 00:39:26,428 happens to you. 1122 00:39:26,432 --> 00:39:28,172 >> NARRATOR: Citizens jailed for 1123 00:39:28,166 --> 00:39:30,666 minor debt and mistaken 1124 00:39:30,669 --> 00:39:33,069 identity, juveniles locked away 1125 00:39:33,071 --> 00:39:35,811 for years at a time, 1126 00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:37,437 and Americans wrongfully 1127 00:39:37,443 --> 00:39:39,813 imprisoned for alleged 1128 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:42,051 immigration violations. 1129 00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:44,447 Is the American prison system 1130 00:39:44,450 --> 00:39:47,420 expanding so much that it could 1131 00:39:47,419 --> 00:39:49,859 soon be detaining citizens for 1132 00:39:49,855 --> 00:39:52,655 any reason at all? 1133 00:39:52,658 --> 00:39:54,688 And all in the name of national 1134 00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:57,056 security? 1135 00:39:57,062 --> 00:39:58,432 >> JOSEPH: It's conditioning. 1136 00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:00,070 That's exactly what it's for. 1137 00:40:00,065 --> 00:40:01,065 But what are they conditioning 1138 00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:02,466 us for? 1139 00:40:02,468 --> 00:40:03,598 Is it economic? 1140 00:40:03,602 --> 00:40:04,872 Could it be some sort of natural 1141 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:06,710 disaster, an earthquake? 1142 00:40:06,705 --> 00:40:07,735 It could be any one of those 1143 00:40:07,739 --> 00:40:09,879 things, but you can say beyond 1144 00:40:09,875 --> 00:40:11,475 the shadow of a doubt that 1145 00:40:11,477 --> 00:40:14,477 they're preparing for something. 1146 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,150 >> MULLER: I've been in some of 1147 00:40:16,147 --> 00:40:17,617 the protests with the cops 1148 00:40:17,616 --> 00:40:19,486 dressed up like storm troopers 1149 00:40:19,485 --> 00:40:20,715 out of Star Wars. 1150 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,849 If Americans rose up, they have 1151 00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:23,864 the camps ready for us. 1152 00:40:23,855 --> 00:40:24,855 They have the prisons ready for 1153 00:40:24,856 --> 00:40:25,856 us. 1154 00:40:25,857 --> 00:40:26,857 These are warehouses for 1155 00:40:26,858 --> 00:40:27,858 humanity. 1156 00:40:27,859 --> 00:40:28,859 These are warehouses for the 1157 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:30,160 American public. 1158 00:40:30,161 --> 00:40:31,231 >> SULLIVAN: The public has 1159 00:40:31,229 --> 00:40:32,629 really very little idea of 1160 00:40:32,631 --> 00:40:33,871 what's happening behind the 1161 00:40:33,865 --> 00:40:36,635 walls of America's prisons. 1162 00:40:36,635 --> 00:40:38,235 >> JONES: No one can deny it, 1163 00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:39,866 the land of the free, the home 1164 00:40:39,871 --> 00:40:42,041 of the brave has the largest 1165 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,210 prison population in the world 1166 00:40:44,242 --> 00:40:46,882 and it's only growing. 1167 00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,578 >> FATHI: Most people think of 1168 00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:51,050 prisoners as the other. 1169 00:40:51,049 --> 00:40:52,879 The reality is, with the largest 1170 00:40:52,884 --> 00:40:54,654 prison population in the world, 1171 00:40:54,653 --> 00:40:56,523 a lot of Americans are going to 1172 00:40:56,522 --> 00:40:58,662 end up in prison, or at least in 1173 00:40:58,657 --> 00:40:59,787 jail, at some point in their 1174 00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:00,791 lives. 1175 00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:01,892 It might be you. 1176 00:41:01,893 --> 00:41:03,193 It might be your son or 1177 00:41:03,194 --> 00:41:04,204 daughter. 1178 00:41:04,195 --> 00:41:05,495 It might be a friend. 1179 00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:06,667 We should all care what happens 1180 00:41:06,665 --> 00:41:07,895 in prisons, because that could 1181 00:41:07,899 --> 00:41:11,669 be you or me or any of us. 1182 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:12,940 >> NARRATOR: Should all U.S. 1183 00:41:12,938 --> 00:41:16,068 citizens, even the law-abiding, 1184 00:41:16,074 --> 00:41:19,684 be concerned about America's 1185 00:41:19,678 --> 00:41:22,908 so-called "secret prisons"? 1186 00:41:22,914 --> 00:41:24,954 There are those who believe the 1187 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:27,920 answer is a profound "Yes." 1188 00:41:30,088 --> 00:41:32,218 But one thing is certain. 1189 00:41:32,223 --> 00:41:34,933 Until the nation knows the truth 1190 00:41:34,926 --> 00:41:38,056 about its prisons, thousands of 1191 00:41:38,063 --> 00:41:39,973 Americans will continue asking 1192 00:41:39,965 --> 00:41:42,625 questions and fearing the 1193 00:41:42,634 --> 00:41:44,174 unknown, while others will 1194 00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:45,769 simply turn their heads and say, 1195 00:41:45,771 --> 00:41:47,171 "It can't happen here." 1196 00:41:47,172 --> 00:41:48,172 Captioning sponsored by 1197 00:41:48,173 --> 00:41:50,183 A&E TELEVISION NETWORKS 1198 00:41:50,175 --> 00:41:51,175 Captioned by 1199 00:41:51,176 --> 00:41:52,176 Media Access 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