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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,421 --> 00:00:03,171 (dramatic music) 2 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,170 May 2nd, 1945, 3 00:00:21,170 --> 00:00:23,540 the charred remains of the bodies of Adolf Hitler 4 00:00:23,540 --> 00:00:25,130 and his wife, Eva Braun, 5 00:00:25,130 --> 00:00:27,100 lie abandoned in a shallow grave 6 00:00:27,100 --> 00:00:29,800 in the garden of the Reich's Chancellery. 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,260 The hated Nazi regime is at last vanquished. 8 00:00:33,260 --> 00:00:35,780 But for the surviving victims of Nazism, 9 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:38,670 the search for their stolen belongings and property 10 00:00:38,670 --> 00:00:40,183 had only just begun. 11 00:00:41,590 --> 00:00:43,440 It was certainly one of the largest 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,170 mass robberies in history. 13 00:00:46,170 --> 00:00:48,260 It was organized by the Nazi state 14 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:49,930 and they really tried to get everything that they could, 15 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:51,650 especially from the Jews. 16 00:00:51,650 --> 00:00:53,850 So there you have Jewish property, 17 00:00:53,850 --> 00:00:56,640 Jewish money all taken away, 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,600 and there are still people who are actually fighting 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,290 to get works of art that they own 20 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:04,750 back into their own ownership 21 00:01:04,750 --> 00:01:08,440 and properties back into their own ownership. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,270 It wasn't only stolen belongings 23 00:01:10,270 --> 00:01:12,110 and property that was missing. 24 00:01:12,110 --> 00:01:13,720 Many of the Nazi war criminals 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,603 also seemed to slip through the net. 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,060 There was an underground movement 27 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:25,660 that was set up in order to help high-profile Nazis escape. 28 00:01:25,660 --> 00:01:29,180 Many of them went on to have normal lives after the war. 29 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:31,590 The sentences were in general, too lenient 30 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:34,320 and the pardons came too quickly. 31 00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:36,440 Many of those who helped finance Hitler 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,590 or used slave labor during the war 33 00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:41,710 would receive a mere slap on the wrist, 34 00:01:41,710 --> 00:01:45,120 while millions of their victims are still seeking justice 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,790 and reparation even today. 36 00:01:47,790 --> 00:01:50,230 If you really want to know where Nazi gold is, 37 00:01:50,230 --> 00:01:53,593 just get on a plane to Zurich and it's under the streets. 38 00:02:05,514 --> 00:02:07,550 (dramatic music) 39 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:09,880 Europe, 1945, 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,410 the mighty Reich of 1,000 years shrinks 41 00:02:12,410 --> 00:02:15,423 under the steady advance of the allies on both fronts. 42 00:02:17,810 --> 00:02:21,470 Behind enemy lines, allied bombings, and acts of sabotage 43 00:02:21,470 --> 00:02:25,313 demoralize Germany's last remaining troops and civilians. 44 00:02:26,194 --> 00:02:28,861 (ominous music) 45 00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:36,240 Adolf Hitler's demented obsession with conquest 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,373 and domination has driven the whole nation into a nightmare. 47 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:45,760 There's an amazing sort of film 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,080 of an airplane going over Berlin, 49 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,380 just right at the end of the war. 50 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:52,840 And you see the desolation below. 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,697 It's like something from "Dante's Inferno." 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,800 So, really, Germany fought this war to rule the world, 53 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,580 but ended up at the end of the world 54 00:03:04,580 --> 00:03:08,113 and what a terrible subterranean world it was. 55 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,850 People are homeless. 56 00:03:10,850 --> 00:03:14,660 People are refugees, there are refugees going everywhere. 57 00:03:14,660 --> 00:03:17,340 They're also troops retreating. 58 00:03:17,340 --> 00:03:20,660 It's a very, very complicated, very messy, 59 00:03:20,660 --> 00:03:22,540 very violent situation. 60 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:26,593 It's a time in which people can hide things if they want to. 61 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,390 But long before the final 62 00:03:29,390 --> 00:03:31,520 desperate struggle for Berlin, 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,090 the Nazis have been taking steps to hide the wealth 64 00:03:34,090 --> 00:03:36,683 they had stolen from their millions of victims. 65 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:42,470 On April 6th, 1945, US military policemen stopped two women 66 00:03:42,470 --> 00:03:45,980 breaking curfew in the vicinity of the town of Merkers, 67 00:03:45,980 --> 00:03:47,840 a mining region a couple of hours 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,573 northeast of Frankfurt in central Germany. 69 00:03:51,660 --> 00:03:54,610 As both women are French and can't communicate, 70 00:03:54,610 --> 00:03:57,270 the Americans decide to take them to their command post 71 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:59,133 to find a French speaking colleague. 72 00:04:00,580 --> 00:04:03,300 At the command post, they discovered that one of the women 73 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:06,650 is pregnant and urgently needs to see a doctor. 74 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:08,800 They decide to take them into town. 75 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,290 On their way into Merkers, 76 00:04:10,290 --> 00:04:13,010 as they pass by the Kaiseroda salt mine, 77 00:04:13,010 --> 00:04:15,410 one of the women makes a surprising revelation 78 00:04:15,410 --> 00:04:17,083 to the American servicemen. 79 00:04:18,290 --> 00:04:20,597 And then, one of these women start saying, 80 00:04:20,597 --> 00:04:22,890 "ah, in that mine over there, 81 00:04:22,890 --> 00:04:26,420 there's this incredibly big amount of treasure." 82 00:04:26,420 --> 00:04:27,910 And so, these three American soldiers, 83 00:04:27,910 --> 00:04:30,820 they obviously report this to their superiors. 84 00:04:30,820 --> 00:04:34,990 They go into the mine and it's like, Aladdin's cave. 85 00:04:34,990 --> 00:04:37,940 Inside the mine, the US military would find 86 00:04:37,940 --> 00:04:42,670 over 8,000 gold bars along with thousands of bags, boxes, 87 00:04:42,670 --> 00:04:45,850 and crates containing currency, gold coins, 88 00:04:45,850 --> 00:04:49,170 and other objects in the same metal, as well as silver, 89 00:04:49,170 --> 00:04:51,783 platinum and priceless works of art. 90 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:57,120 Here, GI's uncovered a fabulous hoard of jewelry, 91 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,000 silver, currency, bullion and art treasures. 92 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,943 Much of it the accumulated loot of five years of war. 93 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,040 In the following months, 94 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,640 similar finds would be made all over Germany 95 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,714 and its occupied territories, especially looted art. 96 00:05:11,714 --> 00:05:14,820 (light dramatic music) 97 00:05:14,820 --> 00:05:18,010 Yet many assets would be hard to find as a result 98 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:20,810 of senior Nazis spiriting away stolen wealth 99 00:05:20,810 --> 00:05:23,880 and treasure to so-called neutral countries 100 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,230 towards the end of the war. 101 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:28,520 There are other countries that the Nazis liked sending 102 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,710 their money to because they thought that might end up 103 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:32,430 being quite a good place to go and hide. 104 00:05:32,430 --> 00:05:34,920 So, Argentina was an obvious place. 105 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,980 And another place that's often overlooked is Spain. 106 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:40,900 A lot of money went to Spain and went into 107 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:43,960 these big holding companies that essentially 108 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,860 were money laundering for the Nazis. 109 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:49,610 South America proved particularly welcoming 110 00:05:49,610 --> 00:05:53,500 and hospitable to escaping Nazi war criminals. 111 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:57,560 In many instances, there were large German communities 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,780 that had been there since the 19th century. 113 00:05:59,780 --> 00:06:02,220 So, it was a good place for them to blend in. 114 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:04,950 Eichmann managed to escape to Argentina, 115 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:09,120 Josef Mengele managed to escape through South America, 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,170 ending up in Brazil. 117 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:15,490 Klaus Barbie for instance, ends up in Bolivia, 118 00:06:15,490 --> 00:06:17,370 and it wasn't just South America. 119 00:06:17,370 --> 00:06:20,470 It was in many cases, the United States. 120 00:06:20,470 --> 00:06:23,000 You've got to remember that Juan Peron and his wife, 121 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,530 they were fascists. 122 00:06:24,530 --> 00:06:26,490 You know, they liked Nazis. 123 00:06:26,490 --> 00:06:28,930 And I think that Argentina only declared war 124 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:32,230 on Nazi Germany about one month before the war ended 125 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:34,800 just to make it look as though they were on the right side. 126 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,980 So, that was a very cynical move. 127 00:06:36,980 --> 00:06:38,700 Some of them, you know, there were a lot of other 128 00:06:38,700 --> 00:06:40,710 sort of dictators around still. 129 00:06:40,710 --> 00:06:43,810 Just because Hitler died doesn't mean that fascism died. 130 00:06:43,810 --> 00:06:48,310 You have Salazar in Portugal, you have Franco in Spain, 131 00:06:48,310 --> 00:06:51,630 you have very dictatorial regimes in the Middle East. 132 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:53,640 So, there's a lot of places around the world 133 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,990 where a Nazi is gonna feel at home 134 00:06:55,990 --> 00:06:59,263 if he no longer is able to stay in Germany or Austria. 135 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,770 The fleeing Nazis would take several different 136 00:07:02,770 --> 00:07:04,250 and secret escape routes, 137 00:07:04,250 --> 00:07:06,990 which became known as the ratlines. 138 00:07:06,990 --> 00:07:10,050 Invariably taking with them as much of their stolen loot 139 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:11,703 as they could carry. 140 00:07:11,703 --> 00:07:16,703 (car engine rumbling) (light dramatic music) 141 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:19,160 Some of them escape through Denmark, 142 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,130 some of them would escape through Spain, 143 00:07:21,130 --> 00:07:24,420 but I think the one people know a lot about, 144 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:26,820 the one that's covered a lot is the kind of route 145 00:07:26,820 --> 00:07:30,970 that went through Germany, through Austria, over the Alps, 146 00:07:30,970 --> 00:07:34,260 over the Brenner Pass and then into the Alto Adige, 147 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:38,360 into Italy and towns like Bolzano and Merano. 148 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,210 And then, from there some of the escapers would get 149 00:07:42,210 --> 00:07:44,650 false papers from priests. 150 00:07:44,650 --> 00:07:47,330 And then they would make their way either to Rome 151 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:49,200 where they would get more false papers 152 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,140 or they would go to Genoa. 153 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:54,310 And then from Genoa, they get on a boat 154 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:57,360 with a Red Cross passport under a false name. 155 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,600 (eerie music) 156 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,760 At the end of the war, 157 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,600 the International Committee of the Red Cross issued 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,750 hundreds of thousands of safe conduct permits 159 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:09,360 for the survivors from concentration camps, 160 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,970 former POWs, deportees, forced laborers, 161 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:17,470 and other civilians who didn't have valid travel documents. 162 00:08:17,470 --> 00:08:21,090 We now know that in many cases, Nazi criminals stole 163 00:08:21,090 --> 00:08:24,860 and forged these documents to make their escape. 164 00:08:24,860 --> 00:08:27,430 It has even been alleged that corrupt elements 165 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:31,330 in the Vatican conspired to redirect these Red Cross permits 166 00:08:31,330 --> 00:08:33,003 to escaping Nazis. 167 00:08:34,850 --> 00:08:37,980 A lot of Nazis were able to sort of slip 168 00:08:37,980 --> 00:08:41,380 through the cracks and become other people. 169 00:08:41,380 --> 00:08:44,070 Many of the Jews I interviewed who ended up going 170 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:46,560 to Buenos Aires said that they recognized 171 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:49,290 people from the Nazi camps on the boat 172 00:08:49,290 --> 00:08:52,053 who were also refugees going to the same place. 173 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:56,920 We can't say that the Vatican helped as an organization. 174 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,610 There was no policy by the Pope to help Nazis escape, 175 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:04,510 but there were members of the Vatican 176 00:09:04,510 --> 00:09:09,440 and priests and even a Bishop called Luigi Hudal, 177 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,660 who did actively help Nazis escape 178 00:09:12,660 --> 00:09:15,430 by issuing them with documentation. 179 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:19,210 In the archives of the Santa Maria dell'Anima in Rome, 180 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:22,850 which is where Bishop Hudal lived and worked, 181 00:09:22,850 --> 00:09:26,987 you have papers written to him by former Nazis saying, 182 00:09:26,987 --> 00:09:28,760 "please, can you help?" 183 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,050 It has been said that many of these escaped 184 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:34,720 Nazis lived the rest of their lives protected and financed 185 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,360 by a secret organization known as 186 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,300 The Organization of the Former SS Members or ODESSA. 187 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:45,040 And that ODESSA was funded by much of the looted wealth 188 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,060 the Nazis had hidden and transferred abroad. 189 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:51,220 I spoke to a Nazi, a man called Erich Priebke 190 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:54,910 who ended up being incarcerated in Rome 191 00:09:54,910 --> 00:09:56,860 until he died quite recently. 192 00:09:56,860 --> 00:09:59,330 And I spoke to him about his escape to Argentina. 193 00:09:59,330 --> 00:10:01,900 And he said to me, "listen, there was no ODESSA. 194 00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:03,210 I rather wish there was one 195 00:10:03,210 --> 00:10:04,900 because then I would have had some money." 196 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:07,310 You know, some of these Nazis arrived in Argentina, 197 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:08,670 they were quite poor. 198 00:10:08,670 --> 00:10:10,860 Some of the Nazis were very rich. 199 00:10:10,860 --> 00:10:12,820 So, that of course tells you that some of them 200 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:15,490 had the treasure and some of them just had nothing. 201 00:10:15,490 --> 00:10:18,280 Yet, not all Nazis would manage to escape. 202 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,870 Many would soon face justice at Nuremberg, 203 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:22,770 including some of those who were involved 204 00:10:22,770 --> 00:10:25,640 in the financing of Hitler's criminal empire. 205 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,330 But were all the right men on trial? 206 00:10:28,330 --> 00:10:30,320 And how would the allies even begin to 207 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,449 prosecute such heinous crime or compensate its victims? 208 00:10:34,449 --> 00:10:37,116 (ominous music) 209 00:10:45,377 --> 00:10:48,627 (light dramatic music) 210 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,890 In May of 1945, the allies mistakenly freed 211 00:10:55,890 --> 00:10:57,680 some Nazi political prisoners, 212 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,490 among them two notorious names in the Hitler money trail, 213 00:11:01,490 --> 00:11:06,490 industrialist, Fritz Thyssen and Hjalmar Schacht, 214 00:11:06,630 --> 00:11:08,630 the former head of the Reichsbank, 215 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:10,260 and the financial brain behind 216 00:11:10,260 --> 00:11:12,313 Germany's military rearmament. 217 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,750 But it wouldn't be long before both were rearrested 218 00:11:20,750 --> 00:11:22,863 and indicted for war crimes. 219 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:32,190 Nuremberg, November the 20th, 1945. 220 00:11:32,190 --> 00:11:35,040 The eyes of the world are on one of the most publicized 221 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,540 and awaited trials in the history of mankind. 222 00:11:38,540 --> 00:11:42,080 22 of the most prominent Nazi leaders would be judged 223 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,933 for crimes against humanity. 224 00:11:45,810 --> 00:11:48,610 Hjalmar Schacht would sit among the accused for his role 225 00:11:48,610 --> 00:11:50,550 both as president of the Reichsbank 226 00:11:50,550 --> 00:11:55,550 from 1933 till January, 1939, as well as Nazi Minister 227 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:59,640 of Economic Affairs from 1934 till 1937. 228 00:12:01,269 --> 00:12:02,420 (light dramatic music) 229 00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:04,840 We realized at last that the allies 230 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,050 had some political objective in view, 231 00:12:07,050 --> 00:12:09,960 which made them anxious to brand us as criminals 232 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,710 of the Hitler regime. 233 00:12:11,710 --> 00:12:14,910 The trial of war criminals had already been planned. 234 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:17,850 And it was obviously essential for the purposes 235 00:12:17,850 --> 00:12:20,640 of that trial that prominent economists 236 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,703 and businessman should be numbered among the accused. 237 00:12:27,943 --> 00:12:31,610 (speaking foreign language) 238 00:13:02,115 --> 00:13:03,930 Schacht would end up being acquitted 239 00:13:03,930 --> 00:13:06,140 and instead it would be his successor 240 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:09,160 as president of the Reichsbank, Walther Funk, 241 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,020 who would be sentenced to life imprisonment for his role 242 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:15,493 in financing and facilitating Hitler's war plans. 243 00:13:20,510 --> 00:13:23,280 During the trial, Hjalmar Schacht would have the chance 244 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,600 to meet again with the man who had first brought him 245 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,070 into the Nazi's highest circle, Hermann Goering. 246 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:38,710 By 1936, the men once friends, had become fierce rivals 247 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:41,270 after Hitler nominated Goering as the supervisor 248 00:13:41,270 --> 00:13:43,723 of the second four year economic plan. 249 00:13:45,070 --> 00:13:48,240 It was a rivalry that would end with Schacht's resignation 250 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,300 as Minister of Economic Affairs 251 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:52,993 and his dismissal as President of the Reichsbank. 252 00:13:54,930 --> 00:13:58,000 By the end of the war, however, Goering like Schacht, 253 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,200 had fallen out of favor with the Fuhrer, 254 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,560 and had been abandoned to his drug addictions 255 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:03,823 and other accesses. 256 00:14:05,550 --> 00:14:08,740 In the Nuremberg jail, Goering was weaned off the drugs 257 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:11,270 and reveled in his role as the most senior 258 00:14:11,270 --> 00:14:13,133 Nazi leader in the doc. 259 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:18,590 Personally, I have always looked up on Goering 260 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:20,410 as the worst among the accused, 261 00:14:20,410 --> 00:14:22,650 on account of his decent origin 262 00:14:22,650 --> 00:14:26,864 and comfortable circumstances, but at the Nuremberg trial, 263 00:14:26,864 --> 00:14:28,870 Goering displayed great courage, 264 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:32,723 both in his behavior and his half audible exclamations. 265 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:38,370 Goering's prominent role in the rearmament 266 00:14:38,370 --> 00:14:41,630 of the Reich and his direct responsibility for the extortion 267 00:14:41,630 --> 00:14:44,000 of Jewish owned factories and businesses 268 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,900 where thousands of inmates were worked to death, 269 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:49,333 ended with him being sentenced to hang. 270 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,310 But even he would escape proper justice, 271 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:57,520 since he took the coward's way out and committed suicide 272 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,350 with a cyanide capsule on the eve of his execution. 273 00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:04,685 It was the final failure of Nuremberg. 274 00:15:04,685 --> 00:15:07,518 (dramatic music) 275 00:15:08,980 --> 00:15:11,320 My point of view on the Nuremberg trials 276 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,140 is that they tried to narrow it down as much as they could. 277 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:17,780 I mean, in the end, they sort of picked up 278 00:15:17,780 --> 00:15:19,540 there were 22 major Nazis. 279 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:22,450 Well, there were more than 22 major Nazis. 280 00:15:22,450 --> 00:15:26,430 I mean, there were 42 Gauleiters, for example. 281 00:15:26,430 --> 00:15:28,750 And these Gauleiters were heavily involved 282 00:15:28,750 --> 00:15:33,190 in filling up the concentration camps, 283 00:15:33,190 --> 00:15:36,200 implementing the transfer of people 284 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,570 from Germany to the death camps. 285 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:40,660 Surely they should be put on trial. 286 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:42,730 No, they got off scot free. 287 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:45,260 As would several of Hitler's financiers, 288 00:15:45,260 --> 00:15:47,660 including Gustav Krupp Von Bohlen, 289 00:15:47,660 --> 00:15:50,560 the main arms manufacturer and the mastermind 290 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,620 of the Adolf Hitler Fund, that other industrialists 291 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:56,100 would use to make generous contributions 292 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,690 to the Nazi party and the Fuhrer himself. 293 00:15:59,690 --> 00:16:02,020 The Krupps really were behind Hitler, 294 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:06,260 behind the rearmament, implicated in the Holocaust, 295 00:16:06,260 --> 00:16:07,800 and all kinds of things like that. 296 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,300 So, it wasn't really all Gustav Krupp, 297 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:12,720 but a lot of people thought so, 298 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 and at the end of the war the Americans thought so, 299 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,140 and they were looking for him and trying to arrest him. 300 00:16:18,140 --> 00:16:22,830 And all they got was this poor old senile fellow in bed. 301 00:16:22,830 --> 00:16:25,090 Deemed unfit to attend trial, 302 00:16:25,090 --> 00:16:28,290 the case against Gustav Krupp Von Bohlen und Halbach 303 00:16:28,290 --> 00:16:29,760 would be dismissed. 304 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,610 Instead, his son, Alfried, who had conspired with the SS 305 00:16:33,610 --> 00:16:36,440 to enslave conscripted workers to operate the Krupp's 306 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,814 wartime factories would be charged in his place. 307 00:16:40,814 --> 00:16:45,814 (dramatic music) (speaking foreign language) 308 00:16:48,490 --> 00:16:51,140 From the 9th of December, 1946, 309 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:54,140 until the 13th of April, 1949, 310 00:16:54,140 --> 00:16:58,140 the allies would carry out 12 subsequent trials at Nuremberg 311 00:16:58,140 --> 00:17:00,950 where they would attempt to prosecute German industrialists 312 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:02,910 for their support of the Nazis. 313 00:17:02,910 --> 00:17:05,868 But these too were deeply flawed. 314 00:17:05,868 --> 00:17:09,618 (speaking foreign language) 315 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Among the most noteworthy of these trials, 316 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,520 was that of Oswald Pohl, 317 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,330 the head of the SS Main Economic and Administrative Office, 318 00:17:52,330 --> 00:17:55,540 which coordinated the running of the concentration camps, 319 00:17:55,540 --> 00:17:58,130 the supply of slave labor and the looting 320 00:17:58,130 --> 00:18:00,583 of victims' properties and businesses. 321 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:05,970 The court sentenced Pohl and three of his subordinates 322 00:18:05,970 --> 00:18:09,210 to death, while another 11 would receive sentences 323 00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:11,840 between 10 years and life. 324 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,080 But in the end, only Pohl would be executed. 325 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,320 The others would see their sentences commuted 326 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,970 or even in some cases canceled altogether. 327 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:22,450 Unlike the unfortunate Pohl, 328 00:18:22,450 --> 00:18:26,780 who was hanged on June 7th, 1951. 329 00:18:26,780 --> 00:18:29,720 He was one of the last people hanged as a result 330 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,270 of the Nuremberg trials. 331 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:34,830 Oddly enough, after that, the allies went over 332 00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:38,783 to a policy more of pardon and toleration. 333 00:18:39,730 --> 00:18:43,360 So, not many of the SS officers really 334 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:45,350 are punished after the war. 335 00:18:45,350 --> 00:18:47,780 The first industrialist to receive an exclusive 336 00:18:47,780 --> 00:18:51,780 trial was the coal and steel magnate, Friedrich Flick. 337 00:18:51,780 --> 00:18:55,810 On April the 19th, 1947, he was indicted on war crimes 338 00:18:55,810 --> 00:18:58,870 and crimes against humanity for the widespread use 339 00:18:58,870 --> 00:19:01,670 of slave labor in his mines and factories, 340 00:19:01,670 --> 00:19:03,560 along with the theft of resources 341 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,219 and plants in occupied territories. 342 00:19:06,219 --> 00:19:08,969 (dramatic music) 343 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,130 And last but not least, 344 00:19:13,130 --> 00:19:17,023 the financing of the NSDAP and the SS. 345 00:19:20,530 --> 00:19:23,873 He would be sentenced to just seven years in prison. 346 00:19:25,890 --> 00:19:28,250 The second major industrial trial held 347 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:33,250 from the 27th of August, 1947 until July 30th, 1948, 348 00:19:33,690 --> 00:19:35,840 would it be against IG Farben, 349 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,650 the major chemical cartel that was the Nazi's partner 350 00:19:38,650 --> 00:19:41,200 in crime, supplying the German war machine 351 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,720 with synthetic gasoline and rubber 352 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,570 and the infamous pesticide Zyklon B, 353 00:19:46,570 --> 00:19:49,473 that would be used to slaughter millions of Jews. 354 00:19:53,307 --> 00:19:57,057 (speaking foreign language) 355 00:20:24,427 --> 00:20:27,490 Of the 24 accused IG Farben executives, 356 00:20:27,490 --> 00:20:29,620 11 would be acquitted while the others 357 00:20:29,620 --> 00:20:31,880 would receive sentences ranging from eight years 358 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,030 to only 18 months. 359 00:20:34,030 --> 00:20:37,110 This for developing and supplying products and chemicals 360 00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:39,440 used to slaughter millions. 361 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,270 The verdicts of industrialists, 362 00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:45,880 like the verdicts of the SS officers in general 363 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,880 who ran the camps and these industries were too lenient. 364 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,483 I think that there were very few people in industry roundup. 365 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,260 The industrialist trial was a complete farce 366 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:03,470 in the sense that they let off all of the directors 367 00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:06,530 of these big companies on the basis that they were 368 00:21:06,530 --> 00:21:09,000 taking orders and before you knew it, 369 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,350 all the major companies of the Nazi period 370 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:13,990 become the major companies in Germany 371 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:15,909 in the post-war period. 372 00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:18,576 (ominous music) 373 00:21:25,929 --> 00:21:28,990 (dramatic music) 374 00:21:28,990 --> 00:21:30,710 The Nuremberg trials would not be 375 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:32,640 the only occasion on which Nazis 376 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,470 would face prosecution for their crimes. 377 00:21:35,470 --> 00:21:39,160 All over the country and in the former occupied territories, 378 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,070 civilian courts would try several former Nazis 379 00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:44,990 and collaborators in a process that became known 380 00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:46,870 as denazification. 381 00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:50,450 Like Nuremberg, however, denazification did little 382 00:21:50,450 --> 00:21:51,990 more than scratch the surface 383 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:54,673 of the deep seated Nazi infrastructure. 384 00:21:57,259 --> 00:22:01,009 (speaking foreign language) 385 00:22:28,802 --> 00:22:30,610 When we take into account the process 386 00:22:30,610 --> 00:22:33,620 of denazification and the consequences for the partners 387 00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:35,630 and financiers of Adolf Hitler, 388 00:22:35,630 --> 00:22:39,580 we find a number of curious cases of leniency. 389 00:22:39,580 --> 00:22:41,920 Max Amann, for example, the man who ran 390 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,750 the publishing empire that made Hitler 391 00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:45,840 one of the wealthiest men in the world, 392 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,853 would be sentenced to 10 years of forced labor. 393 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,983 He would be released after just five. 394 00:23:00,740 --> 00:23:03,520 Hitler's personal photographer, Heinrich Hoffman, 395 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,590 whose photos earned the Fuhrer millions in royalties 396 00:23:06,590 --> 00:23:08,330 and who would make a fortune for himself 397 00:23:08,330 --> 00:23:11,130 by trading looted art, would be sentenced to 398 00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:13,053 only four years in prison. 399 00:23:14,211 --> 00:23:17,270 (light dramatic music) 400 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:18,950 Outrageous when you think about it. 401 00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:22,510 And the number of sort of people who met justice 402 00:23:22,510 --> 00:23:27,510 wasn't great and they said the denazification program was, 403 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,980 they called it a Persil certificate. 404 00:23:29,980 --> 00:23:33,200 'Cause what you did was you got three people to say, 405 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,320 yes, you had a Nazi, but you had three or four people 406 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,800 who thought you were okay. 407 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,340 And they signed it at the bottom. 408 00:23:39,340 --> 00:23:41,770 They called it the Persil certificate 409 00:23:41,770 --> 00:23:43,990 because Persil was a soap powder 410 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:46,680 that said it washed whiter than white. 411 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,090 So, with this you could sort of whitewash 412 00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:50,433 your past in that way. 413 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:56,250 Hoffman became a poster boy for the cynicism 414 00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:59,830 and inefficiency with which denazification was carried out 415 00:23:59,830 --> 00:24:02,410 by the post-war German authorities. 416 00:24:02,410 --> 00:24:06,330 Shortly before he passed away peacefully at the age of 72, 417 00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:08,420 he would recover a considerable part 418 00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:10,740 of his stolen art collection. 419 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:13,600 Something similar would occur with many industrialists 420 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,173 and businessmen who supported and financed the Nazi regime. 421 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:24,050 (speaking foreign language) 422 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:49,930 On September 11th, 1949, 423 00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:53,590 US President Harry S. Truman appointed John J. McLoy 424 00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:57,620 as the new American High Commissioner for Occupied Germany. 425 00:24:57,620 --> 00:25:00,890 McLoy would proceed with a program of mass amnesty 426 00:25:00,890 --> 00:25:03,280 for several former Nazi war criminals, 427 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,400 whose sentences were either commuted or canceled, 428 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,980 including almost all of the industrialists 429 00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:13,213 tried at Nuremberg. (light dramatic music) 430 00:25:13,213 --> 00:25:16,963 (speaking foreign language) 431 00:25:43,801 --> 00:25:45,680 The most prolific and loyal of all 432 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,710 the Hitlerite industrialists, Friedrich Flick, 433 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:51,510 was a free man by 1950. 434 00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:54,150 He would not only recover all his former enterprises 435 00:25:54,150 --> 00:25:57,500 located in West Germany, but would also invest in several 436 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:00,180 developing companies and become the largest 437 00:26:00,180 --> 00:26:02,960 shareholder at Daimler-Benz. 438 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,320 He ended up as probably the richest man in West Germany, 439 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,440 leaving an empire of 330 companies, 440 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,950 with a turnover of eight billion Deutschmarks 441 00:26:11,950 --> 00:26:13,580 after his death in 1972. 442 00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:19,208 (light eerie music) 443 00:26:20,860 --> 00:26:23,940 Alfried Krupp would be pardoned in 1951, 444 00:26:23,940 --> 00:26:27,330 and also recovered part of his forfeited industries. 445 00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:29,200 He regained his personal fortune, 446 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,100 reinstating his family's industrial empire 447 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,890 and even established a foundation named after him, 448 00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:37,330 which included on its supervisory board, 449 00:26:37,330 --> 00:26:39,303 banker Hermann Josef Abs. 450 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:44,000 As one of the chairman of the Deutsche Bank during the war, 451 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,710 Abs was responsible for the Aryanization 452 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:49,420 of formerly Jewish owned businesses. 453 00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:52,080 He would never be prosecuted for his crimes 454 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,860 and even retained this chairmanship 455 00:26:53,860 --> 00:26:56,147 of some of these companies after the war. 456 00:27:02,060 --> 00:27:04,890 But the greatest scandal was that some of those convicted 457 00:27:04,890 --> 00:27:07,890 in the IG Farben trial would also receive pardons 458 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:10,090 from McLoy's high commission. 459 00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:12,400 In 1950, both Karl Krauch, 460 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,580 the Chairman of the Supervisory Board of IG Farben, 461 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:19,070 and Fritz Ter Meer, one of the brains behind the creation 462 00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:21,460 of the industrial complex at Auschwitz, 463 00:27:21,460 --> 00:27:24,113 had their sentences substantially reduced. 464 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:29,100 The following year, it was the turn of Auschwitz 465 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:32,200 plant managers, Otto Ambros and Walter Durrfeld 466 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,200 to be pardoned and immediately released 467 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,373 from their eight year prison sentences. 468 00:27:41,170 --> 00:27:44,810 Like Flick and Krupp, nearly all IG Farben war criminals 469 00:27:44,810 --> 00:27:47,850 would return into the post-war German business world 470 00:27:47,850 --> 00:27:50,750 and hold important positions in several corporations 471 00:27:50,750 --> 00:27:52,453 and banking institutions. 472 00:27:57,710 --> 00:28:00,860 And I think it is one of the terrible aspects 473 00:28:00,860 --> 00:28:03,950 of the post-war period that because we were so keen 474 00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:06,890 to revive West Germany economically, 475 00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:09,330 we turned a blind eye to a lot of these people 476 00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:13,080 who ran these businesses, who were very much implicated 477 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,520 with Hitler's regime. 478 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,503 They were implicated, as we know, with forced labor as well. 479 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,550 German-based American subsidiaries, 480 00:28:22,550 --> 00:28:25,900 Opel GM, and Ford Werke were also among those 481 00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,650 that used slave labor during the war. 482 00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:30,830 Despite their claims of not having control 483 00:28:30,830 --> 00:28:34,220 of their German subsidiaries, both American corporations 484 00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:36,520 would do their utmost to try to get their hands 485 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,543 on profits earned in Germany during that period. 486 00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:44,410 So, Ford and General Motors both have a huge problem 487 00:28:44,410 --> 00:28:46,190 on their hands at the end of the second world war. 488 00:28:46,190 --> 00:28:48,760 They have these profits that have piled up in Opel 489 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,600 and in the Ford Werke plant in Germany. 490 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,410 The other problem they face is that the German Mark 491 00:28:54,410 --> 00:28:56,590 has now a disproportionately poor exchange rate 492 00:28:56,590 --> 00:28:57,880 against the US dollar. 493 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,660 And so, how can they possibly take these profits back 494 00:28:59,660 --> 00:29:02,630 to the US politically or even economically? 495 00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:04,060 This question drags on for years. 496 00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:06,400 In the 1950s, both Ford and General Motors 497 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,990 do try to repatriate their profits 498 00:29:07,990 --> 00:29:10,170 and do so successfully in some cases, 499 00:29:10,170 --> 00:29:11,893 but they take a huge cut rate. 500 00:29:13,010 --> 00:29:15,480 As well as banking the wartime profits, 501 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,780 both companies would also claim compensation for war damage 502 00:29:18,780 --> 00:29:23,450 sustained at their slave labor staffed factories in Germany. 503 00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:25,760 In the ultimate act of cynicism, however, 504 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,080 both Ford and General Motors asked the US government 505 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,210 to compensate them for the wartime damage 506 00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:32,400 to their factories in the Third Reich. 507 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,070 This is a move that is almost unbelievable. 508 00:29:35,070 --> 00:29:38,070 These are companies asking for compensation that the allies 509 00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:41,060 have inflicted on their companies in the Third Reich. 510 00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:42,670 And General Motors is actually successful. 511 00:29:42,670 --> 00:29:45,010 The US government pays them more than $30 million 512 00:29:45,010 --> 00:29:50,010 in compensation for damage to the Opel factory effectively. 513 00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:51,630 Ford asked for the same thing, 514 00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:53,560 but us government of the 1960s, 515 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320 20 years after the end of the war is much less generous. 516 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,570 Only gives Ford a little bit over 517 00:29:57,570 --> 00:29:59,323 a million dollars in compensation. 518 00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:02,880 Although the allies let German industrialists 519 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,440 and financiers off the hook, they were rather more efficient 520 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,400 at tracing the vast wealth and national assets 521 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,560 stolen by the Nazis. 522 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,090 At the end of the war, the Western powers secret 523 00:30:14,090 --> 00:30:17,240 intelligence services launched a scheme aimed at seizing 524 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,830 stolen Nazi loot from neutral countries 525 00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:22,083 called Operation Safe Haven. 526 00:30:26,010 --> 00:30:29,310 Operation Safe Haven was an undercover operation 527 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:32,947 sort of spearheaded by the United States 528 00:30:32,947 --> 00:30:35,300 Office of Strategic Services, 529 00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:37,900 which was the precursor to the CIA. 530 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:40,740 And it was to crack down on all of this money laundering 531 00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:42,953 around the world that the Nazis were doing. 532 00:30:43,890 --> 00:30:45,700 Through operation Safe Haven, 533 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,530 the allies would recover a significant part of the assets 534 00:30:48,530 --> 00:30:49,970 stolen by the Reich, 535 00:30:49,970 --> 00:30:52,820 and would further develop a program of restitution, 536 00:30:52,820 --> 00:30:55,523 controlled by the Tripartite Gold Commission. 537 00:30:59,850 --> 00:31:03,680 The Tripartite Gold Commission was set up to redistribute, 538 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800 to give back the gold that the Nazis had stolen. 539 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,980 But once countries went into the Soviet sphere, 540 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:13,100 there was somewhat punished because the gold 541 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:14,300 didn't go back to them. 542 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:18,260 So, in some cases you had the tripartite gold going back 543 00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:20,600 to some of these countries in the 1990s 544 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,590 because of the geopolitics involved. 545 00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:27,280 There was a campaign early on to take 10% 546 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,530 of the industrial capacity of Germany and send it 547 00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:31,810 to the Soviet Union as reparations. 548 00:31:31,810 --> 00:31:34,390 That was how reparations were conceived as a matter, 549 00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:37,020 not to deliver money to individuals, 550 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:39,563 but to deliver money between States. 551 00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:43,990 Besides gold, the next most commonly looted 552 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:47,290 commodity in Nazi occupied Europe was art. 553 00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:50,360 The allied army set up special staffs during the war, 554 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240 which had the task of securing separate cultural assets 555 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,410 from the occupied States of Europe. 556 00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:58,580 Registering and then re-registering them with the help 557 00:31:58,580 --> 00:32:01,363 of the deprived museums and individuals. 558 00:32:03,978 --> 00:32:07,728 (speaking foreign language) 559 00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:33,970 Now, of course, because it was hidden by Nazis 560 00:32:33,970 --> 00:32:35,590 and then maybe recovered later, 561 00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:38,520 we don't know how much disappeared, 562 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,950 but what we know is that there are a lot of works of art 563 00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:44,940 in museums, in galleries all over Europe, 564 00:32:44,940 --> 00:32:46,860 that just have an empty space 565 00:32:46,860 --> 00:32:49,930 where a work of art used to hang. 566 00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:53,570 So, there are still people today I am convinced 567 00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:58,570 who will buy and sell art stolen by the Nazis in secret. 568 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,660 Make no mistake, this is a criminal activity, 569 00:33:01,660 --> 00:33:04,060 but I have no doubt that there are some very bad people 570 00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:09,060 around who still trade Nazi stolen goods. 571 00:33:09,450 --> 00:33:11,420 But it would be the individual victims 572 00:33:11,420 --> 00:33:14,410 of Nazism who would encounter the greatest obstacles 573 00:33:14,410 --> 00:33:16,420 in recovering their rightful assets 574 00:33:16,420 --> 00:33:18,989 and possessions in the post-war period. 575 00:33:18,989 --> 00:33:21,656 (ominous music) 576 00:33:24,507 --> 00:33:27,840 (light dramatic music) 577 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,170 Many historians and researchers have tried to estimate 578 00:33:34,170 --> 00:33:37,620 the value of the stolen goods, property, and possessions 579 00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:40,690 during the Nazi's 12 year reign of terror. 580 00:33:40,690 --> 00:33:42,310 While some of it has been recovered, 581 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:44,510 there is still a lot that is missing, 582 00:33:44,510 --> 00:33:47,750 leading to several conspiracy theories, treasure hunting, 583 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:51,120 and the ongoing search for the lost Nazi gold. 584 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,250 Typically, we hear about stories of gold found underneath 585 00:33:54,250 --> 00:33:56,280 a lake called Lake Toplitz, 586 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,460 and there's never really been any gold found there. 587 00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:01,990 Then there was talk about a train full of gold 588 00:34:01,990 --> 00:34:03,430 underneath a Polish mountain. 589 00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:06,890 Again, that's never really ever been shown to be true. 590 00:34:06,890 --> 00:34:09,530 I think there's a lot of nonsense written about Nazi gold 591 00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:12,340 and people talk, you know, it's something for a thriller 592 00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:15,690 or a movie, but I suspect yes, 593 00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:18,770 there must be some gold that was hidden. 594 00:34:18,770 --> 00:34:21,550 And I suspect that if that's going to be anywhere, 595 00:34:21,550 --> 00:34:25,430 it's underneath the streets of Zurich or Geneva. 596 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:27,320 It's gonna be in a Swiss bank. 597 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,670 There is little doubt that neutral Switzerland 598 00:34:29,670 --> 00:34:33,010 played a massive role in looting of art and personal wealth 599 00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:35,160 during the second world war. 600 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,440 The secrecy of the Swiss banking system allowed 601 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,630 the Nazi regime to launder much of the gold and currency 602 00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:42,283 pillage from their victims. 603 00:34:44,150 --> 00:34:47,970 On March 8th, 1945, the Allies and the Swiss had reached 604 00:34:47,970 --> 00:34:49,530 an agreement to cut off trade 605 00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:52,290 and freeze German assets in the country. 606 00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:54,940 Promising to return any identifiable gold 607 00:34:54,940 --> 00:34:56,920 to its rightful owners. 608 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,760 But there was a problem in identifying 609 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000 whom the rightful owners were since the Nazis had done 610 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,300 everything possible to cover their tracks 611 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,253 and prevent its identification. 612 00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:09,780 It's another way that the Nazis had sort 613 00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:11,210 of protected themselves. 614 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:14,240 I mean, they re-smelted all of the gold 615 00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:16,790 and they put German markings on the gold. 616 00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:20,250 So, nobody really knew whose gold was whose gold. 617 00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:22,420 At the end of the war when their heirs went 618 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:25,470 to try to reclaim those assets and the banks asked them 619 00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:27,650 for death certificate proving 620 00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:29,859 that the beneficial owners had died, 621 00:35:29,859 --> 00:35:33,970 the answer often was well Auschwitz and Dachau 622 00:35:33,970 --> 00:35:35,860 didn't give us death certificates. 623 00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:38,330 So, there was no way to prove a death. 624 00:35:38,330 --> 00:35:42,680 And the Swiss bankers just said, "well, I'm sorry then. 625 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,890 There's nothing we can do for you." 626 00:35:44,890 --> 00:35:46,990 Claimants and relatives of the millions 627 00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:49,180 who had perished in the Nazi death camps 628 00:35:49,180 --> 00:35:51,960 had a hard time trying to put pressure on Swiss banks 629 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,120 to release information about their war time holdings. 630 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,430 Especially since the Swiss use the onset 631 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:59,660 of Cold War hostilities to put the brakes 632 00:35:59,660 --> 00:36:02,880 on much of the restitution process. 633 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,840 So, we've got all these properties that actually belong 634 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,000 to other people and yet they were never repatriated back. 635 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,660 Again, why? 636 00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:14,070 Part of this Cold War psychosis. 637 00:36:14,070 --> 00:36:17,320 Oh, we can't bring up this issue at this time. 638 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,600 So there you have Jewish property, Jewish money, 639 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,860 all taken away in that period. 640 00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:25,570 I mean, it's a scandal and it's a scandal 641 00:36:25,570 --> 00:36:27,580 that wasn't actually redressed. 642 00:36:27,580 --> 00:36:30,400 It wasn't redressed in the post-war period. 643 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,620 Only after the Berlin wall came down in 1989, 644 00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:36,440 would millions of documents related to World War II 645 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,000 be declassified in both the East and the West, 646 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,610 bringing new light to the involvement 647 00:36:41,610 --> 00:36:45,020 of banking institutions and worldwide corporations 648 00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:46,752 on the Hitler money trail. 649 00:36:46,752 --> 00:36:50,700 (Berlin citizens cheering) 650 00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:53,730 It was only later in the Clinton era that there was a push 651 00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:56,950 for reparations payments from individual industries 652 00:36:56,950 --> 00:37:01,460 to individual former victims who had been living 653 00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:05,333 as survivors for the last 20, 30 years, right? 654 00:37:06,780 --> 00:37:08,730 More by the time the '90s rolled around. 655 00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:11,710 That kind of marked a new phase. 656 00:37:11,710 --> 00:37:15,700 The documents show that the Swiss claim of neutrality 657 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:20,090 in World War II was pure nonsense. 658 00:37:20,090 --> 00:37:24,630 The documents also show that these shipments 659 00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:29,630 were carried out by trucks that had the insignias 660 00:37:31,660 --> 00:37:34,750 of Switzerland stamped on them. 661 00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:39,210 In other words, they actually used Swish transport. 662 00:37:39,210 --> 00:37:44,210 That the gold bars were identified clearly 663 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:46,703 as coming from Germany. 664 00:37:47,550 --> 00:37:49,450 These US congressional hearings 665 00:37:49,450 --> 00:37:51,700 served as the basis for several lawsuits 666 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,210 brought by victims of Nazism who are still 667 00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:56,393 seeking justice and restitution. 668 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:01,240 Organizations like the World Jewish Congress 669 00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:05,153 and the World Jewish Agency would take up their cause. 670 00:38:05,153 --> 00:38:10,153 (light dramatic music) (crowd applauding) 671 00:38:11,150 --> 00:38:14,920 There is no reason in the world why one dollar, 672 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,910 one shekel, one sterling, one franc will be there 673 00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:23,010 in the safes and the accounts of banks 674 00:38:23,010 --> 00:38:25,510 in a time that it does not belong to them. 675 00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:30,040 Every single coin which belongs to the Jews, 676 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,070 should go back to the individual Jews and the Jewish people. 677 00:38:34,070 --> 00:38:35,850 Pressed by Jewish organizations 678 00:38:35,850 --> 00:38:37,670 in the United States and Israel, 679 00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:40,240 the Swiss authorities would at last announced a commission 680 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,550 to research and reveal their banking activities 681 00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:45,230 during the Nazi period. 682 00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:48,110 We want now to get the truth and we want to deal with it. 683 00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:50,510 And if we have to, lift the bank secrecy 684 00:38:50,510 --> 00:38:53,223 for these cases for five years, we'll do it. 685 00:38:55,260 --> 00:39:00,060 They not only put out copious lists of all of the heirless 686 00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:01,880 assets they had in their banks 687 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,270 and they invited people from around the world to apply. 688 00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:09,520 But in addition to that, they set up a fund that was like 689 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,070 over a billion dollars in order to help 690 00:39:13,070 --> 00:39:15,750 victims of the Nazis. 691 00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:17,420 Other countries all over the world 692 00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:19,850 would follow suit and set up their own commissions 693 00:39:19,850 --> 00:39:23,120 to research their involvement with Hitler and his regime. 694 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,750 Leading to the opening of a new question. 695 00:39:25,750 --> 00:39:29,080 What about the slave and forced workers that were exploited 696 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,000 by the Nazi regime and its partners? 697 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,290 What compensation would they receive? 698 00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:38,320 In 1999, German Chancellor, Gerhard Schroder, 699 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,940 announced the creation of a new compensation fund 700 00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:43,120 for victims of slave labor. 701 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,290 Among the signatory companies were Krupp 702 00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:49,483 and IG Farben successors, BASF, Hoechst and Bayer. 703 00:39:52,845 --> 00:39:54,980 Only a very small amount of compensation was paid 704 00:39:54,980 --> 00:39:57,950 in the initial years after the war, right up to the 1990s. 705 00:39:57,950 --> 00:40:01,030 A few Jewish slave laborers to get some compensation 706 00:40:01,030 --> 00:40:03,250 and countries like France and Belgium did pay 707 00:40:03,250 --> 00:40:05,050 some compensation to their own people 708 00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:06,730 who had been deported to Germany. 709 00:40:06,730 --> 00:40:09,730 But because of the Iron Curtain where most 710 00:40:09,730 --> 00:40:14,020 of the Eastern forced laborers were sort of cut off 711 00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:16,130 from Western Europe, it's only in the 1990s 712 00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:17,720 that this really became an issue 713 00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:20,520 as Holocaust restitution resurfaced again. 714 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,020 And then it was decided again, partly because of pressure 715 00:40:24,020 --> 00:40:26,300 that the German government and German companies 716 00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:30,680 did pay a one-off compensation payment to all Eastern 717 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,530 forced and slave laborers. 718 00:40:32,530 --> 00:40:34,370 The American companies whose German 719 00:40:34,370 --> 00:40:37,530 subsidiaries benefited from the use of slave labor 720 00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:39,830 would also be forced to face some of their victims 721 00:40:39,830 --> 00:40:41,423 and make reparations. 722 00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:47,850 So, Ford and General Motors in the 1990s 723 00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:50,920 begin facing lawsuits from the slave laborers 724 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,240 that have largely helped accumulate those profits 725 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,730 during the Third Reich. 726 00:40:54,730 --> 00:40:56,810 There's actually lawsuits filed in the United States 727 00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:59,240 on a class action basis against those companies, 728 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:01,690 and American courts say they simply don't have jurisdiction 729 00:41:01,690 --> 00:41:03,540 over what took place during the Third Reich. 730 00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:05,610 As a result of that legal reckoning 731 00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:07,620 or the opening up of that legal case, 732 00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:10,430 both Ford and General Motors put together compensation funds 733 00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:13,490 to try to help the victims of slave labor in that sense. 734 00:41:13,490 --> 00:41:15,220 I think there's still an open question to some extent 735 00:41:15,220 --> 00:41:17,200 as to whether those efforts have been sufficient, 736 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,580 but certainly there's a recognition 737 00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:20,550 that something needs to be done. 738 00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:22,790 Today, many archives are still waiting 739 00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:25,990 to be declassified, lost treasures and works of art 740 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:27,670 are still being discovered, 741 00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:29,730 and thousands of bank accounts either owned 742 00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:31,830 by victims of Hitler's criminal regime 743 00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:35,173 or by the Nazis themselves remain unclaimed. 744 00:41:37,210 --> 00:41:39,070 We are still very much dealing with the legacy 745 00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:41,150 of the Third Reich and the second world war. 746 00:41:41,150 --> 00:41:43,690 The victims of Nazism have not nearly received 747 00:41:43,690 --> 00:41:45,120 the justice that they can. 748 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,980 It is critically important that historians, 749 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:49,530 journalists and other researchers continue to track down 750 00:41:49,530 --> 00:41:53,020 the paper trails to find out where this money went, 751 00:41:53,020 --> 00:41:55,690 what profits might still be accumulating in bank accounts 752 00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:57,830 based upon the events of the Third Reich, 753 00:41:57,830 --> 00:41:59,890 and how justice can continue to be done 754 00:41:59,890 --> 00:42:01,340 even in the 21st century. 755 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:03,430 I think it's best to call it an attempt at justice. 756 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:06,060 It wasn't complete, it was not satisfactory, 757 00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:07,740 but the fact that they made the attempt 758 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:09,260 set important precedents. 759 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,460 And I think this is what we will really remember about it, 760 00:42:11,460 --> 00:42:14,370 that it's not acceptable that these kind of crimes 761 00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:16,690 are committed without some effort of compensation 762 00:42:16,690 --> 00:42:18,573 and restitution and justice. 763 00:42:19,780 --> 00:42:22,640 He was a lousy student, a failed artist, 764 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,650 homeless for many years and embittered army corporal 765 00:42:25,650 --> 00:42:29,420 who through a tragic quirk of fate was able to lie, 766 00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:31,800 cheat and barter his way to power, 767 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,943 before unleashing murder and misery on millions. 768 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:38,760 But he didn't do it alone. 769 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,320 Behind him, there were many who financed his rise to power 770 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,400 and willingly profited from the business of war. 771 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,030 The plundering of a whole continent, the forced labor, 772 00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:51,713 and the deaths of millions of innocents. 773 00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:55,600 Adolf Hitler took the coward's way out, 774 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,160 but many of those who helped him in the largest robbery 775 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,920 in history have never been held to account. 776 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,320 I think it's impossible to give an estimation 777 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,470 of how much the Nazis stole. 778 00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:08,760 I mean, what are you including in that figure? 779 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,890 Are you including the gold that they stole 780 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:15,890 from occupied countries, all of the assets that they stole 781 00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:19,000 from Swiss banks, the properties that they stole, 782 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,540 the businesses that they stole, 783 00:43:20,540 --> 00:43:22,060 the art that they looted. 784 00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:25,760 The list goes on and on and on. 785 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,760 It was a terrible theft that people 786 00:43:32,210 --> 00:43:34,293 are still trying to figure out. 787 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,470 Does it make people feel better or worse 788 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:42,080 that it wasn't even that profitable and they did it anyway? 789 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,240 If you can understand that, you can understand Third Reich. 790 00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,560 If you think it was only about profit, 791 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,197 you will never understand the Third Reich. 792 00:43:50,197 --> 00:43:53,197 (suspenseful music) 793 00:43:56,664 --> 00:43:59,997 (light dramatic music) 61499

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