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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,666 --> 00:00:03,416 [train in motion] 2 00:00:03,458 --> 00:00:05,083 [train horn] 3 00:00:06,208 --> 00:00:07,666 [train horn] 4 00:00:10,125 --> 00:00:12,500 [train horn] 5 00:00:18,083 --> 00:00:20,791 Conor: I've never hopped on this train in the daylight. 6 00:00:20,833 --> 00:00:22,791 [train in motion] 7 00:00:27,750 --> 00:00:31,416 [easy-going guitar music] 8 00:01:24,083 --> 00:01:27,416 Pat: He'll jump on trains, from here and 9 00:01:27,458 --> 00:01:29,083 go all the way to California. 10 00:01:29,125 --> 00:01:31,083 [distant train horn] 11 00:01:34,083 --> 00:01:35,375 He'll do it with like 10 bucks in his pocket and 12 00:01:35,416 --> 00:01:37,916 he'll make it there by himself and he doesn't like 13 00:01:37,958 --> 00:01:39,791 staying in one spot, he likes to keep moving because 14 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:42,458 he feels like, that's what keeps him going in life rather 15 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:44,833 than just staying around and doing nothing. 16 00:01:44,875 --> 00:01:46,708 He likes to be on the move. 17 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:51,791 Conor: Sorry it took so long man, here you go. 18 00:01:51,833 --> 00:01:54,333 [guitar being jammed] 19 00:01:55,458 --> 00:01:56,625 Man with American flag on his back: [unintelligible] 20 00:01:56,666 --> 00:01:57,875 good for the body, good for the soul. 21 00:01:57,916 --> 00:01:59,500 [slight laughter] 22 00:02:00,250 --> 00:02:03,625 [guitar being played] 23 00:02:09,375 --> 00:02:11,750 Sue: I knew he wanted to be a musician, 24 00:02:11,791 --> 00:02:16,291 and so in my mind I was kind of guiding him towards college. 25 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:19,083 He was going to go to Southern Illinois and I don't know if 26 00:02:19,125 --> 00:02:20,416 you know what happened right before 27 00:02:20,458 --> 00:02:22,541 he went to Southern Illinois. 28 00:02:22,583 --> 00:02:24,708 [guitar playing picks up] 29 00:02:24,750 --> 00:02:28,583 [Conor starts playing The Nets by Roaming Bear] 30 00:02:53,291 --> 00:02:55,208 Sue: I was pushing, pushing, pushing and the whole year 31 00:02:55,250 --> 00:02:57,583 beforehand he kept saying: "No mom, that is not me 32 00:02:57,625 --> 00:02:59,958 "I don't want to go to college." 33 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,708 And he actually did overdose, he tried to 34 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:10,625 kill himself, is was a call to say: "You're not listening, 35 00:03:10,666 --> 00:03:12,625 "I have to be true to my own heart and soul." 36 00:03:12,666 --> 00:03:14,958 [distant train horn] 37 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,208 [train in motion] 38 00:03:16,250 --> 00:03:17,458 Conor: We'll hop another train in New Orleans and 39 00:03:18,875 --> 00:03:20,166 maybe we'll hitchhike from Memphis, I don't really know. 40 00:03:20,208 --> 00:03:20,666 Jennie: Yeah from Memphis we have no idea. 41 00:03:22,541 --> 00:03:25,500 [train crossing alarm and train horn] 42 00:03:28,041 --> 00:03:29,500 [loud train horn] 43 00:03:29,541 --> 00:03:30,791 [train bell] 44 00:03:32,541 --> 00:03:34,041 [train horn] 45 00:03:36,708 --> 00:03:37,875 [train horn] 46 00:03:41,625 --> 00:03:42,791 Jennie: We're leaving. 47 00:03:52,791 --> 00:03:55,791 [gentle guitar music] 48 00:04:19,041 --> 00:04:21,291 [train in motion] 49 00:04:45,125 --> 00:04:48,500 Conor: The first time I traveled on my own, 50 00:04:50,458 --> 00:04:54,583 I left the first week of November in 2008, 51 00:04:58,958 --> 00:05:03,166 with 50 dollars and a backpack full of a bunch of junk 52 00:05:03,208 --> 00:05:06,750 I really didn't need, probably like 60 pounds. 53 00:05:14,625 --> 00:05:17,166 It all just made sense to me. 54 00:05:34,416 --> 00:05:36,083 These guys are [golden]. 55 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:43,958 Jennie: These people were not ready 56 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,916 for Katrina to hit them. 57 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,750 Fuck this place. 58 00:05:57,750 --> 00:05:59,458 Conor: We went over to the school that I was 59 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:01,208 squatting at the last time I came here. 60 00:06:01,250 --> 00:06:02,791 [several people shouting] 61 00:06:03,916 --> 00:06:07,625 When I was staying there, there was maybe between five 62 00:06:07,666 --> 00:06:11,125 and 10 of us each day staying there. 63 00:06:11,166 --> 00:06:15,625 There weren't too many kids and we were all friends. 64 00:06:15,666 --> 00:06:17,541 Matt: Long story short it is all different. 65 00:06:18,875 --> 00:06:21,000 It's just fucked, it's all fucked. 66 00:06:21,041 --> 00:06:23,541 Every single spot that I have been to, 67 00:06:23,583 --> 00:06:26,541 recently, has been more blown up than anything. 68 00:06:26,583 --> 00:06:31,708 It's that movie 'Into the Wild', it fucked everything up. 69 00:06:31,750 --> 00:06:33,500 I'm not even kidding, it was a great book. 70 00:06:33,541 --> 00:06:35,000 Scabby: In the 90's- 71 00:06:35,041 --> 00:06:36,416 Matt: But that movie fucked everything up, 72 00:06:36,458 --> 00:06:38,458 That was a bunch of 14 year old motherfuckers now 73 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:40,750 that are out here blowing up lines. 74 00:06:41,916 --> 00:06:44,166 You know, you think we're a bunch of drunk punks 75 00:06:44,208 --> 00:06:46,208 that just want to fight people in the street? 76 00:06:46,250 --> 00:06:49,583 We prefer to be by train yards and eat some good-ass stew. 77 00:06:51,125 --> 00:06:53,375 Curtis: I don't want to fucking stay in the house anymore. 78 00:06:53,416 --> 00:06:56,625 Matt: Dude, check it all out man, 79 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:57,750 Curtis: Yeah, you know what, there's certain things 80 00:06:57,791 --> 00:06:58,708 you haven't done in your life? 81 00:06:58,750 --> 00:06:59,708 Do them, you know what I mean? 82 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:00,666 You only got one life to live, 83 00:07:00,708 --> 00:07:01,875 especially if you're this young. 84 00:07:01,916 --> 00:07:04,333 Conor: Did you ride trains here from... 85 00:07:04,375 --> 00:07:06,250 Right now Scab and this other guy named Chris 86 00:07:06,291 --> 00:07:06,833 said that they were going to show us. 87 00:07:06,875 --> 00:07:08,291 Conor: Cool. 88 00:07:08,333 --> 00:07:09,916 Curtis: So you know, my friends around the hood are like: 89 00:07:09,958 --> 00:07:11,333 "Yo, isn't that dangerous?" 90 00:07:11,375 --> 00:07:13,625 and I'm like yeah, but so is the hood so what the fuck? 91 00:07:13,666 --> 00:07:15,750 [Conor, Matt and Curtis laugh] 92 00:07:15,791 --> 00:07:18,375 Scabby: Hobo stew, the Mulligan stew. 93 00:07:18,416 --> 00:07:20,541 The one tradition that we actually hold on to 94 00:07:20,583 --> 00:07:24,500 from the original hobo brothers, is served. 95 00:07:24,541 --> 00:07:27,583 [Matt]: Why are you guys listening to him? 96 00:07:27,625 --> 00:07:29,708 Scabby: There's no point in bowls, there's no point in cups, 97 00:07:29,750 --> 00:07:32,583 there's no point in separating things. 98 00:07:32,625 --> 00:07:34,500 We spin everything, I mean... 99 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:37,125 Dude a bunch of fucking yuppies could show up right now, 100 00:07:37,166 --> 00:07:40,416 I mean we will spin this pot with them. 101 00:07:40,458 --> 00:07:41,250 There ya go. 102 00:07:41,291 --> 00:07:42,750 [Conor]: Thank you, my man. 103 00:07:42,791 --> 00:07:44,458 Matt: This is the home-bum at his natural habitat. 104 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:46,541 [Matt and Scabby laugh] 105 00:07:46,583 --> 00:07:49,041 Scabby: I'm not a home-bum. 106 00:07:49,083 --> 00:07:50,791 I never stay anywhere. 107 00:07:50,833 --> 00:07:53,125 Matt: Yeah bullshit. 108 00:07:53,166 --> 00:08:00,125 Conor: I didn't meet one sober street kid today, not one. 109 00:08:00,166 --> 00:08:02,416 Being around them was painful now. 110 00:08:02,458 --> 00:08:06,750 [fast guitar music] 111 00:08:06,791 --> 00:08:13,291 The last couple of months before I decided to get sober... 112 00:08:13,333 --> 00:08:15,625 they're all just madness. 113 00:08:15,666 --> 00:08:18,083 It is really when I came down here last Halloween that 114 00:08:18,125 --> 00:08:25,166 sparked the craziest days of my alcoholism and [raging]. 115 00:08:25,208 --> 00:08:35,791 [big band music playing] 116 00:08:35,833 --> 00:08:44,416 [inaudible] 117 00:08:44,458 --> 00:08:56,333 [inaudible] 118 00:08:56,375 --> 00:09:01,875 Jennie: I've never really thought of the future, 119 00:09:01,916 --> 00:09:03,958 really stressed about it, I was always concerned 120 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,375 about what I'm going to do in the next few days. 121 00:09:08,416 --> 00:09:12,333 I want to go everywhere, I want to see everything. 122 00:09:12,375 --> 00:09:17,125 [general crowd mumbling] 123 00:09:17,166 --> 00:09:18,541 Conor: Lately, I don't even want 124 00:09:18,583 --> 00:09:20,416 to be traveling with a backpack. 125 00:09:20,458 --> 00:09:21,875 You know, this is definitely not 126 00:09:21,916 --> 00:09:24,583 something I want to do all the time. 127 00:09:24,625 --> 00:09:30,375 I couldn't even imagine working a j o b 128 00:09:30,416 --> 00:09:33,416 to pay for rent or something, maybe. 129 00:09:33,458 --> 00:09:35,416 Jennie: People always worry about the future, 130 00:09:35,458 --> 00:09:36,833 we don't have a future right now. 131 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:38,083 You don't have the past right now, 132 00:09:38,125 --> 00:09:41,125 you have right now, now, you know, that's it. 133 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:48,416 [guitar being played] 134 00:09:48,458 --> 00:09:50,791 Conor: I love the feeling of going home, 135 00:09:50,833 --> 00:09:52,750 there's nothing like it. 136 00:09:52,791 --> 00:09:58,375 [guitar being played] 137 00:09:58,375 --> 00:10:02,791 [guitar being played] 138 00:10:17,833 --> 00:10:19,250 Sue: Oh well, why don't you start there. 139 00:10:19,291 --> 00:10:23,625 Where do you usually sleep when you're on the road. 140 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:25,583 that's my like favorite place to sleep. 141 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,791 Sue: As I told you when I invited you to the classroom, 142 00:10:27,833 --> 00:10:31,000 they just really, really, wanted to meet you because you 143 00:10:31,041 --> 00:10:34,750 intrigued them and they've got lots of questions for you. 144 00:10:34,791 --> 00:10:37,458 Conor: Alright, oh, I'm supposed to be calling you guys. 145 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:39,041 You had your hand up first though. 146 00:10:39,083 --> 00:10:40,208 Girl with blue hair band: When you go out hitchhiking 147 00:10:40,250 --> 00:10:41,541 and you get in other people's cars, 148 00:10:41,583 --> 00:10:43,250 do you ever get scared or like...? 149 00:10:43,291 --> 00:10:45,916 Conor: Sometimes, I am scared yeah and I would not 150 00:10:45,958 --> 00:10:48,083 suggest that any of you guys start hitchhiking. 151 00:10:48,125 --> 00:10:49,333 Boy with black hair and gray shirt: Were you scared 152 00:10:49,375 --> 00:10:50,833 the first time, when you hopped on a train? 153 00:10:50,875 --> 00:10:52,791 Conor: I wasn't scared, my heart was beating like 154 00:10:52,833 --> 00:10:55,291 really fast but it was in a good way, I was so excited, 155 00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:57,125 all my adrenaline started was pumping. 156 00:10:57,166 --> 00:10:58,958 [Pedro]: Do you ever get like, lonely, 157 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,458 when you're just...? 158 00:11:00,500 --> 00:11:02,666 Conor: Sometimes it really kicks in when you're a couple 159 00:11:02,708 --> 00:11:06,916 1000 miles away from home and I, you know, want to be 160 00:11:06,958 --> 00:11:09,583 with my mom, want to be with my friends and family and 161 00:11:09,625 --> 00:11:13,041 it kicks in that, there's no way that I could possibly 162 00:11:13,083 --> 00:11:16,166 come back here any time soon because I'm so far away that 163 00:11:16,208 --> 00:11:19,958 I can't afford a ticket home, I'm just stuck. 164 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,833 Sue: [Pedro] has been begging me if he could go with you. 165 00:11:22,875 --> 00:11:24,291 [the class laughs] 166 00:11:24,333 --> 00:11:25,458 Girl with blue hair band: Would you ever take somebody 167 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:33,500 with you, like one of us [maybe]? 168 00:11:33,541 --> 00:11:39,041 Conor: Do you have any plans, or any ideas of a plan? 169 00:11:39,083 --> 00:11:42,708 Mikey: Not really, I mean I have like, yeah I guess, 170 00:11:42,750 --> 00:11:47,500 a couple of ideas but like... 171 00:11:47,541 --> 00:11:49,833 Conor: Then, where do you want to stop, 172 00:11:49,875 --> 00:11:51,958 where do you want to go or who do you want to see? 173 00:11:52,000 --> 00:12:02,750 [train bell and horn] 174 00:12:02,791 --> 00:12:06,666 Mikey: Surprised me though that they have some shit here. 175 00:12:06,708 --> 00:12:10,083 This is what I wanted to do for a long, long time. 176 00:12:10,125 --> 00:12:13,500 When I was a little kid I used to think about, you know, 177 00:12:13,541 --> 00:12:16,708 like damn hobos ride freight trains and I thought 178 00:12:16,750 --> 00:12:18,708 that was like a pretty cool life. 179 00:12:18,750 --> 00:12:21,916 I guess I fantasized about it. 180 00:12:21,958 --> 00:12:23,708 Conor: I don't really know what he is about, you know, 181 00:12:23,750 --> 00:12:26,541 I don't know if he like wants to go and travel 182 00:12:26,583 --> 00:12:30,083 and just like, score all the free pot he can in California 183 00:12:30,125 --> 00:12:32,708 and like fuck off at rainbow gathering 184 00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:34,875 or if he wants to like... 185 00:12:34,916 --> 00:12:37,583 I don't know if hopping trains is even something 186 00:12:37,625 --> 00:12:40,416 that he is into, or hitchhiking, or if he just wants 187 00:12:40,458 --> 00:12:42,791 to do it to get away from a bad situation 188 00:12:42,833 --> 00:12:44,875 which could be a possibility too. 189 00:12:44,916 --> 00:12:46,416 Do you make jewelry at all? 190 00:12:46,458 --> 00:12:48,333 Mikey: Uh-huh. 191 00:12:48,375 --> 00:12:51,666 Like, wire wrapping and things like that? 192 00:12:51,708 --> 00:12:54,416 You can get like 20 or 30 of these from 193 00:12:54,458 --> 00:12:58,083 one bullhorn, which costs like five bucks from a farm. 194 00:12:58,125 --> 00:12:59,791 You cut it down [into these wraps]. 195 00:12:59,833 --> 00:13:02,083 People pay like 20 or 30 bucks for one of these, 196 00:13:02,125 --> 00:13:06,375 and it takes like an hour, tops, to make it. 197 00:13:06,416 --> 00:13:08,458 Perfect way to make money on the road. 198 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:11,250 Mikey: I haven't tried it yet, I like make hemp and stuff 199 00:13:11,291 --> 00:13:14,708 but like my brother started making wraps like before he died 200 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:19,041 and I have a bunch of his silver and like stuff like that. 201 00:13:19,083 --> 00:13:22,500 I've looked at it, you know, like watching him doing it. 202 00:13:22,541 --> 00:13:27,583 I like understand how to do it but I haven't tried it yet. 203 00:13:27,625 --> 00:13:31,000 [faint sounds of nature] 204 00:13:31,041 --> 00:13:33,250 [Tom]: ...and that is a fact. 205 00:13:33,291 --> 00:13:36,291 Mikey: I'm stuck in here, these people are like stuck, 206 00:13:36,333 --> 00:13:40,791 they've like [set ground] and I'm going to break out of it. 207 00:13:40,833 --> 00:13:46,958 [guitar plays] 208 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:56,750 Tammy: So what exactly are we discussing? 209 00:13:56,791 --> 00:14:00,666 Tom: At age 10, when Michael was 10 and Matt was 13, 210 00:14:00,708 --> 00:14:03,000 Matt had been down the city a couple of times and then 211 00:14:03,041 --> 00:14:06,125 he asked if Mikey could go down. 212 00:14:06,166 --> 00:14:08,958 [slow paced guitar music] 213 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,500 They went down to the city, take the train and 214 00:14:12,541 --> 00:14:16,166 street skated the city. 215 00:14:16,208 --> 00:14:19,000 Tammy: Come back with stories about giving his money 216 00:14:19,041 --> 00:14:23,541 to the homeless guys and talking to them. 217 00:14:23,583 --> 00:14:26,416 Tom: Michael always has big brother. 218 00:14:26,458 --> 00:14:28,708 Tammy: Yeah, all the guys watched out for him. 219 00:14:28,750 --> 00:14:31,833 Tom: Yeah he had his big brother always looking out. 220 00:14:31,875 --> 00:14:43,541 Tammy: Uh-huh. 221 00:14:43,583 --> 00:14:46,000 Tammy: That's Matt and Mike wrestling, that's Michael... 222 00:14:46,041 --> 00:14:48,000 Tom: Yeah. 223 00:14:48,041 --> 00:14:51,083 Tammy: Remember that little purple hat he always wore? 224 00:14:51,125 --> 00:14:53,000 [skateboarding] 225 00:14:53,041 --> 00:14:56,625 [skateboard clangs on metal bar] 226 00:14:56,666 --> 00:14:58,041 Tammy: Michael has been struggling 227 00:14:58,083 --> 00:15:02,416 for a long time, for years. 228 00:15:02,458 --> 00:15:08,208 Tom: You know in any household there's an expectation and 229 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:10,666 over the course of the last couple of months Mike 230 00:15:10,708 --> 00:15:15,833 [did] expect things differently or expect more or whatever 231 00:15:15,875 --> 00:15:21,083 and things weren't changing. 232 00:15:21,125 --> 00:15:24,041 Tammy: There are ways to live off the grid and I think 233 00:15:24,083 --> 00:15:26,208 if you want to eat, you got to work. 234 00:15:26,250 --> 00:15:29,541 If you want somewhere to live, you have to work. 235 00:15:29,583 --> 00:15:36,666 You can't just being mooching off of everybody forever. 236 00:15:36,708 --> 00:15:43,083 [Conor starts playing Minimum Wage Brigade by Roaming Bear] 237 00:15:43,083 --> 00:15:46,708 [Conor starts playing Minimum Wage Brigade by Roaming Bear] 238 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,750 Tom: That's clearly somebody I want my son to emulate... 239 00:16:11,791 --> 00:16:12,666 [Tammy laughs] 240 00:16:12,708 --> 00:16:14,000 Tom: Isn't it? 241 00:16:14,041 --> 00:16:15,041 Tammy: No. 242 00:16:15,083 --> 00:16:17,541 [Tom laughs] 243 00:16:17,583 --> 00:16:19,250 [band is jamming] 244 00:16:19,291 --> 00:16:22,500 Conor: Alright, so, I'm Roaming Bear and this is Ethan. 245 00:16:22,541 --> 00:16:25,791 [applause and cheering] 246 00:16:25,833 --> 00:16:28,541 It's good to be playing with him again. 247 00:16:28,583 --> 00:16:32,791 So this first song is called Run and is 248 00:16:32,833 --> 00:16:38,083 about running away from here, or there, or anywhere. 249 00:16:38,125 --> 00:16:44,166 [the duo starts playing Run by Roaming Bear] 250 00:16:44,166 --> 00:16:48,125 [the duo starts playing Run by Roaming Bear] 251 00:18:19,458 --> 00:18:26,500 Mikey: I got three teeshirts, two packages of socks, 252 00:18:26,541 --> 00:18:33,125 a pocket knife and utensils. 253 00:18:33,166 --> 00:18:36,083 Olive leaf complex if anyone gets sick. 254 00:18:36,125 --> 00:18:40,291 I got my pot. 255 00:18:40,333 --> 00:18:44,625 For a little while it's like, I can't do this, like I'm 256 00:18:44,666 --> 00:18:47,291 not going to do this being on film and everything like, 257 00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:48,750 that was the big thing that I didn't 258 00:18:48,791 --> 00:18:54,333 really feel to good about. 259 00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:57,250 Like I said, I don't want to come back here, I want to just 260 00:18:57,291 --> 00:19:00,625 get out and probably just like stay in California. 261 00:19:00,666 --> 00:19:03,250 That's where I want to be. 262 00:19:03,291 --> 00:19:09,083 I mean, for a little while at least. 263 00:19:09,125 --> 00:19:11,041 Tammy: Ok, stop all of this. 264 00:19:11,083 --> 00:19:13,000 Mikey: Don't cry in front of the cameras, bye. 265 00:19:13,041 --> 00:19:14,250 Tammy: I love you. 266 00:19:14,291 --> 00:19:19,583 Mikey: I love you too. 267 00:19:19,625 --> 00:19:29,666 [train in motion] 268 00:19:29,666 --> 00:19:39,625 [train in motion] 269 00:19:39,666 --> 00:19:41,000 Alright so which one do i get on, 270 00:19:41,041 --> 00:19:42,125 the front or the back? 271 00:19:42,166 --> 00:19:43,333 Conor: The front one. 272 00:19:43,375 --> 00:19:45,625 And you want to get on as fast as you can. 273 00:19:45,666 --> 00:19:47,666 I'm going to have to run and keep up 274 00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:49,541 with the train the whole time. 275 00:19:49,583 --> 00:19:57,375 I can't get on until you're on. 276 00:19:57,416 --> 00:20:01,583 Mikey: Holy motherfucker! 277 00:20:01,625 --> 00:20:02,958 Do I get up? 278 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,583 Conor: Yeah, up in it. 279 00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:13,000 Conor: Yeah, up in it. 280 00:20:33,625 --> 00:20:37,875 Mikey: Ultimately, we are free to do, what we want to do. 281 00:20:37,916 --> 00:20:41,125 You know, you always have the ability to free your mind. 282 00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:43,166 No matter what time of the day it is, 283 00:20:43,208 --> 00:20:46,458 what time of the year it is or where you are at. 284 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:59,500 [train engine] 285 00:20:59,541 --> 00:21:01,541 Conor: Oh shit. 286 00:21:01,583 --> 00:21:04,333 We're in a train yard, man. 287 00:21:04,375 --> 00:21:05,750 I don't like that. 288 00:21:05,791 --> 00:21:13,500 Mikey: We're slowing down. 289 00:21:13,541 --> 00:21:26,583 Conor: We're just stopped in the yard right now, waiting. 290 00:21:26,625 --> 00:21:28,958 I don't see any workers out there though, so... 291 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:39,041 That's a plus. 292 00:21:39,041 --> 00:21:52,125 That's a plus. 293 00:21:52,166 --> 00:21:54,625 Mikey: [Unintelligible] 294 00:21:54,666 --> 00:22:04,583 [various strong train yard noises] 295 00:22:04,625 --> 00:22:18,458 [frantic ticking] 296 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:26,125 Mikey: ...on the night train. 297 00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:29,041 Conor: Yeah maybe... 298 00:22:29,083 --> 00:22:31,000 Mikey: Yeah I kind of want to get the fuck out of here dude. 299 00:22:31,041 --> 00:22:35,291 Conor: Let's just keep going man... 300 00:22:35,333 --> 00:22:49,750 [crickets chirping] 301 00:22:49,791 --> 00:22:51,833 Mikey: I've wanted to ride trains and travel around 302 00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:55,416 like that since I was like a really little kid. 303 00:22:55,458 --> 00:22:58,458 But now I'm just like, being like introduced to the idea 304 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,541 about actually doing it. 305 00:23:01,583 --> 00:23:03,208 It's like slowly giving me more knowledge about it before 306 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:07,750 I came on and it just like became a bigger part of my world. 307 00:23:07,791 --> 00:23:11,041 The first time I met you was like, wow man you're like a 308 00:23:11,083 --> 00:23:21,125 traveling man and now like that's like just kind of normal. 309 00:23:21,125 --> 00:23:28,125 traveling man and now like that's like just kind of normal. 310 00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:31,666 Conor: We're trying to make it to the West Coast. 311 00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:35,041 Do you think these guys know what I'm talking about? 312 00:23:35,083 --> 00:23:45,125 [guitar playing] 313 00:23:45,125 --> 00:23:54,208 [guitar playing] 314 00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:55,916 Conor: Alright, this is pretty much the trick here. 315 00:23:55,958 --> 00:23:59,916 As you walk out with a gas can in one hand, CD in the other, 316 00:23:59,958 --> 00:24:05,375 ask them if they'll spare a gallon of gas for a CD. 317 00:24:05,416 --> 00:24:07,625 Mikey: First try, I think it's about like, 318 00:24:07,666 --> 00:24:10,541 just confidence man. 319 00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:12,166 Oh shit! 320 00:24:12,208 --> 00:24:19,791 [guitar playing] 321 00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:27,250 [car in motion] 322 00:24:27,291 --> 00:24:29,625 Mitch: So, [unintelligible], get out here or if you want 323 00:24:29,666 --> 00:24:31,583 I can actually take you out to Idaho Springs. 324 00:24:31,625 --> 00:24:32,708 Mikey: I don't care. 325 00:24:32,750 --> 00:24:34,083 Conor: You're going out that way? 326 00:24:34,125 --> 00:24:35,916 Mitch: No, but I got nothing else to do tonight. 327 00:24:35,958 --> 00:24:38,666 Mikey: We stopped in Idaho Springs and me and Bear 328 00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:42,291 were about to walk to a gas station and fill up 329 00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:45,875 water bottles when all of the sudden I just like notice 330 00:24:45,916 --> 00:24:47,625 this guy talking to Conor and... 331 00:24:47,666 --> 00:24:51,916 [Conor is talking inaudibly with the driver] 332 00:24:51,958 --> 00:24:54,750 Conor: Do you think me and Mikey could grab a ride with you? 333 00:24:54,791 --> 00:24:55,791 Driver: Yeah. 334 00:24:55,833 --> 00:24:56,791 Conor: Cool. 335 00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:57,958 Driver: Alright, [unintelligible] 336 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,958 Mikey: I just got to fill up some 337 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,666 water real quickly right there. 338 00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,125 Driver: I got better water at my house than they got here. 339 00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:03,958 [Mikey laughs] 340 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,666 Mikey: Alright, alright. 341 00:25:05,708 --> 00:25:09,125 Conor: He saw our packs and asked if we had a place to stay 342 00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:13,041 and apparently he takes in strays here quite often, he said. 343 00:25:13,083 --> 00:25:14,958 He's let all kinds of traveling people 344 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,166 just come and use his campground. 345 00:25:20,208 --> 00:25:21,708 Mikey: NO, fuck! 346 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:24,291 Conor: It feels like there's less random acts of kindness 347 00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,875 like this in the suburbs because everyone is just 348 00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,500 trying to survive, they're just trying to get by. 349 00:25:29,541 --> 00:25:33,708 And out here, you know, you just got room to breathe. 350 00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:39,708 Mikey: Zip-line take one, never before done in my life. 351 00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:41,041 Aaaah, aaah!! 352 00:25:41,083 --> 00:25:43,083 [guitar starts playing] 353 00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:44,375 [thump] 354 00:25:44,416 --> 00:25:47,708 [Mikey laughs] 355 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,666 That was pretty scary dude. 356 00:25:49,708 --> 00:25:59,750 [guitar playing and streams of water flowing] 357 00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:07,083 [guitar playing and streams of water flowing] 358 00:26:07,125 --> 00:26:17,166 I want to eat this so bad. 359 00:26:17,166 --> 00:26:26,208 I want to eat this so bad. 360 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,708 Oh yeah dude did you see this last night? 361 00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:30,875 Conor: Yeah, [unintelligible] the water. 362 00:26:30,916 --> 00:26:32,666 Mikey: Yeah man. 363 00:26:32,708 --> 00:26:34,750 See this, it even rhymes too! 364 00:26:34,791 --> 00:26:36,041 [Conor snickers] 365 00:26:36,083 --> 00:26:37,916 Somewhat. 366 00:26:37,958 --> 00:26:43,541 [cars driving past] 367 00:26:43,583 --> 00:26:46,416 Conor: I coughed up chunks of blood today. 368 00:26:46,458 --> 00:26:48,083 That's why I know that I'm getting sick. 369 00:26:48,125 --> 00:26:50,083 Mikey: Yeah. 370 00:26:50,125 --> 00:26:51,916 Kinda good tasting... 371 00:26:51,958 --> 00:26:56,291 It might make you like [gargling sounds] a little bit... 372 00:26:56,333 --> 00:27:00,250 Super ORAC antioxidant. 373 00:27:00,291 --> 00:27:01,916 William: I want to try some but 374 00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:04,666 I'm kinda scared because of how Bear reacted to it. 375 00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:06,791 Mikey: It says it supports a healthy immune system, 376 00:27:06,833 --> 00:27:11,416 healthy joints, healthy blood pressure. 377 00:27:11,458 --> 00:27:18,666 After that it took maybe like an hour of waiting. 378 00:27:18,708 --> 00:27:22,000 Conor: A dude named Troy picked us up. 379 00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:28,375 And then Helena, Helena was a super cutie, super fine cutie. 380 00:27:28,416 --> 00:27:30,625 Helena if you see this, I could love you. 381 00:27:30,666 --> 00:27:32,625 [Mikey laughs] 382 00:27:32,666 --> 00:27:35,125 Yeah these kids took us to Newcastle and I asked 383 00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:37,208 them right when we got out of the car if the cops were cool 384 00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:39,291 there, if we could walk on the highway 385 00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,166 without getting in trouble. 386 00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:45,041 And sure enough, we had two chargers on our trail, 387 00:27:45,083 --> 00:27:48,791 flashing lights and the cops came and hassled us. 388 00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:52,541 In the past 24 hours we've been offered twice to get high 389 00:27:52,583 --> 00:27:56,166 for free and neither of us had the urge to get high. 390 00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:57,125 Mikey: Three times. 391 00:27:57,166 --> 00:27:58,625 Conor: Three times, apparently. 392 00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:02,125 Mikey: After I said no to them, I was thinking about it 393 00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:04,750 for like the next 20 minutes, like man can I just finish 394 00:28:04,791 --> 00:28:08,000 that because you just left it sitting there, you know. 395 00:28:08,041 --> 00:28:11,333 But I was thinking, you know, like maybe I can go 396 00:28:11,375 --> 00:28:15,916 a whole month being completely sober and just 397 00:28:15,958 --> 00:28:20,375 enjoy the luxuries of consciousness. 398 00:28:20,416 --> 00:28:26,125 [guitar and harmonica playing] 399 00:28:26,125 --> 00:28:30,416 [guitar and harmonica playing] 400 00:28:51,125 --> 00:28:53,708 Conor: How's it going man? 401 00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:59,250 Smags: Uhm, I don't even know what to say about him man. 402 00:28:59,291 --> 00:29:03,500 Like, he came and visited me last year in California 403 00:29:03,541 --> 00:29:08,458 which meant a lot to me because I was in a patient 404 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:12,541 rehabilitation center and this kid just hops on a train 405 00:29:12,583 --> 00:29:16,250 and hitchhikes and does whatever he has to, to get out to 406 00:29:16,291 --> 00:29:19,250 California and makes a point to stop and see me. 407 00:29:19,291 --> 00:29:22,458 Conor: And I got kicked out of there, 408 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,875 for not being a sober person. 409 00:29:24,916 --> 00:29:26,125 Mikey: Ayyy... 410 00:29:26,166 --> 00:29:36,208 [guitar jam] 411 00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:46,333 [guitar jam] 412 00:29:46,375 --> 00:29:47,666 Conor: I've left sober on the road before 413 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:50,250 and I've always come back drunk. 414 00:29:50,291 --> 00:29:54,083 I really realized that I needed to get sober when I 415 00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:56,250 got two of my friends pregnant, two separate friends 416 00:29:56,291 --> 00:29:58,583 in the same month. 417 00:29:58,625 --> 00:30:00,625 I didn't even know about one of them until after she had 418 00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:04,750 an abortion and then found out about the other pregnancy 419 00:30:04,791 --> 00:30:07,916 while the girl was having a miscarriage. 420 00:30:07,958 --> 00:30:10,833 That really made me realize that yeah there's 421 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:18,541 consequences to my actions. 422 00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:21,000 Mikey: I mean the road is definitely a hard place 423 00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:23,875 to be sober but if you have a good support system 424 00:30:23,916 --> 00:30:26,291 on the road I think... 425 00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:28,708 If you have a good support system anywhere I think you can 426 00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:40,083 do anything you want really. 427 00:30:40,125 --> 00:30:42,541 Conor: It's this right? 428 00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:43,750 [unintelligible] 429 00:30:43,791 --> 00:30:46,041 [Cameraman]: Bum life yeah. 430 00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:53,541 Conor: Bum life. 431 00:30:53,583 --> 00:30:57,666 Now if someone said this stuff might be set aside for 432 00:30:57,708 --> 00:31:01,291 a pig farmer, because pigs will eat anything... 433 00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:04,125 So, it's probably not all very good. 434 00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:10,333 Some potatoes, these potatoes look pretty good. 435 00:31:10,375 --> 00:31:14,250 You know what, cream puffs? 436 00:31:14,291 --> 00:31:21,083 Nah-ah, not good. 437 00:31:21,125 --> 00:31:22,541 Ugh. 438 00:31:22,583 --> 00:31:25,500 The cream is anything but like cream and cheese. 439 00:31:25,541 --> 00:31:29,125 No good, it has been sitting out in the sun all day. 440 00:31:29,166 --> 00:31:31,625 This stuff has been here for awhile. 441 00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:34,208 Oh, oh [snap peas] down here. 442 00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:37,875 Mikey: Wow, imagine that! 443 00:31:37,916 --> 00:31:39,500 Conor: Some fresh green beans 444 00:31:39,541 --> 00:31:41,708 covered in chocolate and frosting. 445 00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:44,166 Mikey: It's amazing, the flavor 446 00:31:44,208 --> 00:31:45,958 combinations you'll find out here. 447 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,333 Conor: It's almost like shopping, kind of. 448 00:31:52,375 --> 00:32:01,916 Got four papayas, a mango, half an avocado... 449 00:32:01,958 --> 00:32:05,875 Mikey: I wanted to try a plantain, 450 00:32:05,916 --> 00:32:13,125 but I didn't want to pay for one inside. 451 00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:14,666 Conor: I don't know, I don't even, I got to get like 452 00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:17,916 permission to talk about this right, quick, because you know 453 00:32:17,958 --> 00:32:21,500 it's their spot and I won't fuck it up for them so... 454 00:32:21,541 --> 00:32:23,166 Cameraman: Go ahead, sure. 455 00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:28,583 [Conor talks with female anarchists] 456 00:32:28,625 --> 00:32:31,291 Female anarchist: So, mostly it's that we're a sober space, 457 00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,500 so no drugs and alcohol. 458 00:32:33,541 --> 00:32:36,000 [unintelligible] 459 00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:38,083 Because it makes certain people really uncomfortable. 460 00:32:38,125 --> 00:32:41,583 And they won't be able to rely on a safe space. 461 00:32:41,625 --> 00:32:51,833 [unintelligible] 462 00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:56,500 Mikey: I slept on that little couch, the really nice one. 463 00:32:56,541 --> 00:33:01,125 [Mikey laughs] 464 00:33:01,166 --> 00:33:08,916 Today is food not bombs, big vegan potluck. 465 00:33:08,958 --> 00:33:17,666 [Spanish conversations in the background] 466 00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:19,583 Hey, hey, hey! 467 00:33:19,625 --> 00:33:25,791 [Conor starts playing Let It Fall by Roaming Bear] 468 00:33:25,791 --> 00:33:29,625 [Conor starts playing Let It Fall by Roaming Bear] 469 00:33:56,541 --> 00:33:58,708 Hell yeah, getting down! 470 00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:00,333 Conor: Thank you man. 471 00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:02,625 So what I'm saying in short, 472 00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:07,500 my pack and my guitar is just way too much to bring. 473 00:34:07,541 --> 00:34:10,375 I think we should we hitch, it'd be way safer. 474 00:34:10,416 --> 00:34:12,833 Mikey: You want to hitch all the way to Seattle? 475 00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:14,875 Conor: Yeah, that's about as far this from Denver here, 476 00:34:14,916 --> 00:34:18,916 just a little bit further. 477 00:34:18,958 --> 00:34:20,416 Nice to meet you. 478 00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:23,125 Guy in green cap: Nice to meet you too dude, good luck man. 479 00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:34,125 Conor: Hopefully we get a ride quick, out of Salt Lake City. 480 00:34:34,166 --> 00:34:39,708 [bird chirping] 481 00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:41,708 Mikey: We walked from the house. 482 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:45,125 Conor: Got one ride up to Route 15 and 94 split 483 00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,208 and then a cop came and kicked us off the highway. 484 00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,291 Mikey: And he's like, you should just hike up the hill 485 00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:52,041 right here and go up this street right here and 486 00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:53,750 we're walking along this bridge... 487 00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:55,875 Conor: And there's a train slowing down right beneath it. 488 00:34:55,916 --> 00:34:57,833 Mikey: I got on the front of it and Conor 489 00:34:57,875 --> 00:34:59,708 was trying to get on the back of it. 490 00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:01,333 Conor: I was running with it for a second, I tried to pull 491 00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:05,708 myself up and my foot totally missed the bottom rung. 492 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:07,208 And I just went tumbling. 493 00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:10,375 Mikey: I jumped off, and it fucking hurt real badly like... 494 00:35:10,416 --> 00:35:12,625 Conor: I thought he might've gotten his leg chopped off 495 00:35:12,666 --> 00:35:13,916 or something because it looked like 496 00:35:13,958 --> 00:35:15,416 he rolled down into the train. 497 00:35:15,458 --> 00:35:18,625 Mikey: I landed right by the train and almost got fucking 498 00:35:18,666 --> 00:35:21,625 ran over by the train, it was really scary. 499 00:35:21,666 --> 00:35:22,958 Conor: And then, another train just 500 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,708 starts rolling up next to us. 501 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,916 Mikey: We found one that they call Cadillac grainer... 502 00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,125 Conor: Which is like the best kind of grainer you can hop on 503 00:35:29,166 --> 00:35:32,000 because it's got two compartments on the porch 504 00:35:32,041 --> 00:35:34,875 where we can each have like our own little space 505 00:35:34,916 --> 00:35:36,250 that we're completely hidden. 506 00:35:36,291 --> 00:35:38,250 Mikey: And then within like maybe 20 minutes on it 507 00:35:38,291 --> 00:35:40,916 Conor: We started to see the Salt Lake on both sides of us. 508 00:35:40,958 --> 00:35:43,500 Mikey: There's no road that goes over it, there's 509 00:35:43,541 --> 00:35:47,291 train tracks but you're like right in the middle of it. 510 00:35:47,333 --> 00:35:53,416 Conor: Great Salt Lake! 511 00:35:53,458 --> 00:35:58,000 Mikey: Hang on tight man, hang on tight. 512 00:35:58,041 --> 00:36:02,375 The sun was setting, as we were going over it, 513 00:36:02,416 --> 00:36:08,916 it was like... 514 00:36:08,958 --> 00:36:12,250 that I've seen in a long time. 515 00:36:12,291 --> 00:36:17,583 I don't remember, you know, feeling that amazing. 516 00:36:17,625 --> 00:36:21,541 Tripping, or doing any other drugs, or seeing anything, 517 00:36:21,583 --> 00:36:25,125 skating huge hills or whatever like, 518 00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:30,333 I felt like so high and like... 519 00:36:30,375 --> 00:36:33,791 Words don't really explain it you know. 520 00:36:33,833 --> 00:36:40,041 [Conor starts playing Wasting Time by Roaming Bear] 521 00:36:40,041 --> 00:36:43,833 [Conor starts playing Wasting Time by Roaming Bear] 522 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:57,958 Conor: I eat nothing but fruit, 523 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,708 I feel like a goddamn hippie. 524 00:37:59,750 --> 00:38:01,083 Mikey: Uh-huh. 525 00:38:01,125 --> 00:38:04,333 Conor: Feel like a granola muncher. 526 00:38:04,375 --> 00:38:05,750 Jamila: I have a pickup truck. 527 00:38:05,791 --> 00:38:07,041 It's got room in the back. 528 00:38:07,083 --> 00:38:11,916 It's actually got room for two people, kind of. 529 00:38:11,958 --> 00:38:13,041 Conor: Awesome. 530 00:38:13,083 --> 00:38:14,750 Jamila: Ok, yeah [unintelligible]. 531 00:38:14,791 --> 00:38:25,708 Voiceover: Bye bye and have safe travels. 532 00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:28,750 Mikey: I don't like being on a camera. 533 00:38:28,791 --> 00:38:30,250 Jamila: Yeah. 534 00:38:30,291 --> 00:38:31,875 Mikey: I'm used to it being around now but like at first 535 00:38:31,916 --> 00:38:34,708 especially I was like pretty nervous about it. 536 00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:38,583 Like of course I like to travel but just being like 537 00:38:38,625 --> 00:38:41,791 a part of a movie or anything like that was almost enough 538 00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:44,625 to make me say that I don't want come and do this. 539 00:38:44,666 --> 00:38:46,958 Jamila: So the way that you guys are traveling is just 540 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,666 by finding rides and by freight trains or? 541 00:38:49,708 --> 00:38:52,416 Conor: Yeah, I call freight trains the Anarchist Amtrack. 542 00:38:52,458 --> 00:38:55,541 Jamila: Yeah, I've always wanted to do that. 543 00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:57,750 Never had the opportunity. 544 00:38:57,791 --> 00:39:01,083 Mikey: Every day there is like so much happening. 545 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:04,041 I'm so happy right now. 546 00:39:04,083 --> 00:39:05,708 Conor: My real name is Conor. 547 00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:07,666 Jamila: So why do you call yourself Bear? 548 00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:11,291 Conor: Uhm, well, initially I had a huge fascination with 549 00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:14,500 Owsley Stanley, you know the sound-man for the Grateful Dead 550 00:39:14,541 --> 00:39:15,958 they called him Bear. 551 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,833 It's kind of like out of admiration for Owsley 552 00:39:19,875 --> 00:39:22,666 and then I was like in the psych ward and I picked up 553 00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:26,083 a magazine and read like this real awesome 554 00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:28,000 article on Owsley while I was in there and I'm like, 555 00:39:28,041 --> 00:39:30,916 wow, Bear, like I could see being a bear. 556 00:39:30,958 --> 00:39:33,500 [Conor laughs] 557 00:39:33,541 --> 00:39:35,416 Jamila: So what were you in the psych ward for? 558 00:39:35,458 --> 00:39:37,041 Conor: Uhm, overdosing. 559 00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:38,125 [Conor laughs awkwardly] 560 00:39:38,166 --> 00:39:39,666 Jamila: Oh yeah, in what way? 561 00:39:39,708 --> 00:39:43,375 Conor: Uhm, Tylenol that's in Vicodin and I took 200 Vicodin 562 00:39:43,416 --> 00:39:46,333 and it wasn't even the Vicodin that got me, I didn't realize 563 00:39:46,375 --> 00:39:49,250 there was so much Tylenol in Vicodin. 564 00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:51,708 Those people in the psych ward are fucked up though. 565 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:54,208 Conor: I got shot up with tranquilizers against my will 566 00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:56,791 twice to the point where they just tackled me and pulled my 567 00:39:56,833 --> 00:40:00,166 pants down and shot me in the butt with a tranquilizer. 568 00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:02,750 And you know why that happened? 569 00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,625 Because I was walking around backwards singing 570 00:40:04,666 --> 00:40:06,208 John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt. 571 00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:07,791 [everyone laughs] 572 00:40:07,833 --> 00:40:09,708 Jamila: I guess they can't take a joke? 573 00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:12,625 Conor: Yeah they were not having it. 574 00:40:12,666 --> 00:40:14,958 And they like tackled me and were like: 575 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,208 "You can either take this medicine or we're going to give 576 00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:19,791 "you this medicine, I hope you calm down mister Gerard." 577 00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:21,291 [Mikey laughs] 578 00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:23,375 And I'm like I'm not going take your drugs, like I'm in here 579 00:40:23,416 --> 00:40:26,250 for drugs and now you're telling me to try and take drugs 580 00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:27,541 that are even better than the drugs 581 00:40:27,583 --> 00:40:29,708 I was taking to get me in here. 582 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:31,500 Like this is pretty fucked up! 583 00:40:31,541 --> 00:40:35,208 But now I'm seven months sober, from everything, so. 584 00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:49,208 Jamila: Congratulations. 585 00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:50,416 [knock on the door] 586 00:40:50,458 --> 00:40:53,583 [kids shouting] 587 00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:57,083 Val: Come on in. 588 00:40:57,125 --> 00:40:59,083 Conor: Hey you guys need to meet my new friend Mike. 589 00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:01,625 That old friend Mike wasn't as cool as this friend Mike. 590 00:41:01,666 --> 00:41:02,583 Emmie: Oh hi! 591 00:41:02,625 --> 00:41:03,333 Conor: This is the new Mike. 592 00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,041 Mikey: You're Ally? 593 00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:06,208 Ally: Yeah, hi. 594 00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:07,708 Val: We have extra pizza. 595 00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:09,750 Conor: Awesome. 596 00:41:09,791 --> 00:41:12,250 Val: Guys have a seat and make yourself at home. 597 00:41:12,291 --> 00:41:14,833 Val: [unintelligible], who wants a fork? 598 00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:16,791 Emmie: I have a fork! 599 00:41:16,833 --> 00:41:19,833 Val: What stories of adventure do you have for us? 600 00:41:19,875 --> 00:41:24,291 Conor: So many, we hopped a train out Ogden, Utah yesterday. 601 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:26,416 We we're going to hitchhike up to Seattle... 602 00:41:26,458 --> 00:41:28,000 Val: That's what I thought you were gonna go, Seattle. 603 00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:29,958 Conor: Yeah, but then we saw the train and accidentally 604 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,625 ditched the camera crew for like 48 hours. 605 00:41:32,666 --> 00:41:36,208 [Val laughs] 606 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:40,000 Val: Well last time when Conor got here, he had scabies. 607 00:41:40,041 --> 00:41:42,041 So he had to stay in the yard, 608 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:45,416 we had a little covered tarp area. 609 00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:46,625 [Conor laughs] 610 00:41:46,666 --> 00:41:48,750 The last time when they got here, it was in 611 00:41:48,791 --> 00:41:51,208 the middle of the night or something because it was so... 612 00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:52,958 Conor: Yeah, it was like three AM... 613 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,625 Val: And Emmie woke us up and said: "There's two homeless 614 00:41:56,666 --> 00:41:58,166 "guys sleeping in the back yard 615 00:41:58,208 --> 00:41:59,958 "and one of them looks like Conor." 616 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,333 [Val laughs] 617 00:42:01,375 --> 00:42:04,458 It is Conor! 618 00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:05,958 Ally: Hello! 619 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,916 Emmie: Hello! 620 00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:08,125 Ally: Knock-knock. 621 00:42:08,166 --> 00:42:10,166 Emmie: Knock-knock. 622 00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:10,958 Ally: Aarrrrgh! 623 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,166 Emmie: Aarrrrgh! 624 00:42:12,208 --> 00:42:13,666 [Ally and Emmie babble in the background] 625 00:42:13,708 --> 00:42:16,500 Val: Oh they just love having company. 626 00:42:16,541 --> 00:42:18,750 Are you willing to do some swimming with them? 627 00:42:18,791 --> 00:42:19,916 Conor: Oh yeah. 628 00:42:19,958 --> 00:42:21,333 Val: Oh good because it is a school night 629 00:42:21,375 --> 00:42:23,000 so I have to get them into bed by around eight. 630 00:42:23,041 --> 00:42:26,500 Conor: As soon as I finish this, I'd love to go swimming. 631 00:42:26,541 --> 00:42:28,166 Val: Uhm you guys, do you want to put on your swimsuits? 632 00:42:28,208 --> 00:42:29,625 Because Conor said he would go swimming with you. 633 00:42:29,666 --> 00:42:30,958 Conor: I'm going to put on my swimsuit. 634 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,333 Emmie: YES! 635 00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:33,708 Val: Ally if you're going to swim, you got to 636 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:42,250 get your swimsuit on now because it's a school night. 637 00:42:42,291 --> 00:42:44,291 [Conor makes anticipating sounds] 638 00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:46,375 [Emmie and Ally playfully scream] 639 00:42:46,416 --> 00:42:55,083 [Conor screams] 640 00:42:55,125 --> 00:42:59,208 Val: As much as he's on the road he's a family guy. 641 00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:00,833 [Emmie chokes] 642 00:43:00,875 --> 00:43:01,583 Conor: Are you alright? 643 00:43:01,625 --> 00:43:03,125 Emmie: Yes. 644 00:43:03,166 --> 00:43:04,375 Conor: You're not supposed to drink it. 645 00:43:04,416 --> 00:43:05,083 You're supposed to hold your breath under water. 646 00:43:05,125 --> 00:43:06,583 Emmie: I know. 647 00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:08,000 Conor: Those goggles don't work when they are full of water. 648 00:43:08,041 --> 00:43:10,708 Val: Both Ally and Emmie had [unintelligible] so 649 00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:12,875 neither of them were supposed to live. 650 00:43:12,916 --> 00:43:16,875 Emmie was on oxygen until she was two. 651 00:43:16,916 --> 00:43:19,208 She couldn't even hold her head up 652 00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:21,541 really until she was three. 653 00:43:21,583 --> 00:43:25,625 She didn't start talking until she was four and 654 00:43:25,666 --> 00:43:29,708 Emmie also has developmental issues and so it's hard 655 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:33,208 being a mom and trying to figure out Emmie's going to fare 656 00:43:33,250 --> 00:43:37,166 when she's an adult and we're not there to take care of her 657 00:43:37,208 --> 00:43:42,458 but the one sort of grounding point that I have is that 658 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,666 Conor has told me since the day they were born, you know, 659 00:43:45,708 --> 00:43:48,791 that I don't need to worry and that he's going to be there 660 00:43:48,833 --> 00:43:55,291 for them and, so Conor's my guy. 661 00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:56,875 Ally: Aah! 662 00:43:56,916 --> 00:44:00,125 Val: Your eyeballs are like stuck to it, I heard suction. 663 00:44:00,166 --> 00:44:01,000 Ally: Really, you heard- 664 00:44:01,041 --> 00:44:02,583 My eyeballs are stuck to it? 665 00:44:02,625 --> 00:44:04,708 Val: Yes, I bet they are stuck to the inside of the glass. 666 00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:05,958 Oh my god, they are! 667 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,791 Ally: Really? 668 00:44:06,833 --> 00:44:08,166 Val: [laughingly] No. 669 00:44:08,208 --> 00:44:09,750 Ally: Are those fake eyeballs? 670 00:44:09,791 --> 00:44:11,166 Emmie: No. 671 00:44:11,208 --> 00:44:20,958 Val: Go on in, dad is going to bring you your meds ok? 672 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,375 Jamila: It was nice meeting you. 673 00:44:22,416 --> 00:44:23,875 Conor: Nice to meet you, thanks for the ride. 674 00:44:23,916 --> 00:44:26,750 It was awesome talking. 675 00:44:26,791 --> 00:44:28,541 Heya, I want a hug from you too. 676 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,500 Mikey: Ok. 677 00:44:30,541 --> 00:44:33,875 Good night, thank you so much. 678 00:44:33,916 --> 00:44:47,333 [birds chirping] 679 00:44:47,375 --> 00:44:50,583 Voiceover: He has weird earrings! 680 00:44:50,625 --> 00:44:51,916 Conor: These kids picked on me when I went here and 681 00:44:51,958 --> 00:44:53,541 they're picking on me even now. 682 00:44:53,583 --> 00:44:55,875 [Unintelligible]. 683 00:44:55,916 --> 00:45:04,375 [Unintelligible]. 684 00:45:04,416 --> 00:45:10,333 [birds chirping] 685 00:45:10,375 --> 00:45:14,375 Mikey: Two years ago, I learned that there's this place 686 00:45:14,416 --> 00:45:21,375 like in my mind kind of like my idea of paradise. 687 00:45:21,416 --> 00:45:23,291 Olympic National Park. 688 00:45:23,333 --> 00:45:29,166 That, there's a rain forest in our country. 689 00:45:29,208 --> 00:45:32,666 Well, what I'm trying to say is like I think it's 690 00:45:32,708 --> 00:45:34,666 supposed to happen that, you know, that we're you know 691 00:45:34,708 --> 00:45:38,708 supposed to all go see this incredibly beautiful place. 692 00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:40,833 Conor: And you're on Route 99, which is like the most 693 00:45:40,875 --> 00:45:43,708 beautiful road to take across the five. 694 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:48,500 Mikey: Right on. 695 00:45:48,541 --> 00:45:50,041 Conor: We'll probably stay in San Francisco today 696 00:45:50,083 --> 00:45:55,208 and tonight so Mikey can skate and stuff. 697 00:45:55,250 --> 00:46:09,750 [guitar plays] 698 00:46:09,791 --> 00:46:16,625 Conor: GAAAAAAH! 699 00:46:16,666 --> 00:46:29,333 Whoooo! 700 00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:33,208 Mikey: I'm ready to go man! 701 00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:45,833 [metro in motion] 702 00:46:45,875 --> 00:46:49,208 Mikey: Oooh... 703 00:46:49,250 --> 00:47:03,000 [various cars honk] 704 00:47:03,041 --> 00:47:05,666 [cello music] 705 00:47:05,708 --> 00:47:10,916 Mikey: I don't know but right now I'm kind of feeling like, 706 00:47:10,958 --> 00:47:14,291 there's like no way out, you know. 707 00:47:14,333 --> 00:47:20,000 Like I don't want to go back and work my job and be doing 708 00:47:20,041 --> 00:47:25,375 the same thing, living in the town where I was living in. 709 00:47:25,416 --> 00:47:34,833 Like that's, that's not good either, but being a bum 710 00:47:34,875 --> 00:47:39,625 that obviously sucks too. 711 00:47:39,666 --> 00:47:44,875 I don't know it's just... 712 00:47:44,916 --> 00:47:48,458 I like to think that there's an in-between, 713 00:47:48,500 --> 00:48:01,541 where there can be like a nice community of people. 714 00:48:01,583 --> 00:48:04,375 This is like where it gets real. 715 00:48:04,416 --> 00:48:06,000 Actually like, what are you going to do 716 00:48:06,041 --> 00:48:09,166 when you're on the streets 717 00:48:09,208 --> 00:48:15,250 Instead of like, oh we have, you know, two kids that 718 00:48:15,291 --> 00:48:17,958 are just like hitchhiking around 719 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:27,541 seeing beautiful things everyday, you know. 720 00:48:27,583 --> 00:48:28,750 Storekeeper: They should be able to 721 00:48:28,791 --> 00:48:30,666 heat that up for you next door, is that ok? 722 00:48:30,708 --> 00:48:32,333 Mikey: Like down there? 723 00:48:32,375 --> 00:48:33,708 Storekeeper: Yes. 724 00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:36,166 Mikey: Ok, alright. 725 00:48:36,208 --> 00:48:39,333 Storekeeper: Thank you, do you want a receipt? 726 00:48:39,375 --> 00:48:42,041 Mikey: No, that's ok. 727 00:48:42,083 --> 00:48:52,125 [cars driving speedily] 728 00:48:52,125 --> 00:49:05,666 [cars driving speedily] 729 00:49:05,708 --> 00:49:12,333 [phone ringing] 730 00:49:12,375 --> 00:49:13,750 [Ron]: Hello? 731 00:49:13,791 --> 00:49:16,291 Mikey: Hey man, it's Mikey again. 732 00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:18,791 [Ron]: [Unintelligible]. 733 00:49:18,833 --> 00:49:20,791 Mikey: We're at the lookout point, and we're just chilling 734 00:49:20,833 --> 00:49:27,541 at the bathrooms right now, just figuring everything out. 735 00:49:27,583 --> 00:49:28,750 [Ron]: Yeah, it's all good, 736 00:49:28,791 --> 00:49:30,916 I mean we're going to be smoking pot. 737 00:49:30,958 --> 00:49:35,416 Mikey: Alright, well we can't really do that but... 738 00:49:35,458 --> 00:49:37,625 [Ron]: You still smoke pot, right? 739 00:49:37,666 --> 00:49:44,458 Mikey: [laughingly] No, we're like doing this soberly... 740 00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,125 [Ron]: Whatever, [unintelligible]. 741 00:49:46,166 --> 00:49:49,333 I'll see you guys, in like 45 minutes to an hour. 742 00:49:49,375 --> 00:49:55,708 Mikey: Alright, yeah, we'll call you. 743 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:59,291 Mikey: Yeah, we left on Monday of last week. 744 00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:03,541 Ron: And that was your intent, it was to just hitchhike 745 00:50:03,583 --> 00:50:04,291 across country, just- 746 00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:05,666 Mikey: Yeah. 747 00:50:05,708 --> 00:50:08,166 Ron: Put a thumb out, and see what you can get? 748 00:50:08,208 --> 00:50:10,000 A road-scholarship is what you're getting. 749 00:50:10,041 --> 00:50:11,208 [Ron laughs] 750 00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:14,333 You're a road scholar, in my opinion. 751 00:50:14,375 --> 00:50:16,916 You're much more brave than I could ever be. 752 00:50:16,958 --> 00:50:18,666 I mean, I love my creature comforts... 753 00:50:18,708 --> 00:50:19,666 Mikey: Yeah. 754 00:50:19,708 --> 00:50:22,125 Ron: I love my bed- 755 00:50:22,166 --> 00:50:22,875 Ron: I love my television- 756 00:50:22,916 --> 00:50:23,666 Mikey: Yeah, I do too. 757 00:50:23,708 --> 00:50:27,750 Ron: I love my car. 758 00:50:27,791 --> 00:50:29,958 Mike: I also don't get like, fuck it, 759 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,833 I'm pushing it all away, like I just want to like, 760 00:50:33,875 --> 00:50:38,166 hang from trees with a loincloth on and reject everything. 761 00:50:38,208 --> 00:50:39,541 Do you know what I mean? 762 00:50:39,583 --> 00:50:42,208 Mikey: I have a job, you know, back at home. 763 00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:50,166 I could abandon it and just stay up eating trash. 764 00:50:50,208 --> 00:50:53,583 Ron: Millions of people in this world, in this country, 765 00:50:53,625 --> 00:50:56,166 do that on a daily basis and they worry about 766 00:50:56,208 --> 00:50:59,250 where there next meal is coming from. 767 00:50:59,291 --> 00:51:01,041 I go to the city all the time, 768 00:51:01,083 --> 00:51:02,708 I keep a pocket full of change, 769 00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:04,708 and the first person to ask me for money, 770 00:51:04,750 --> 00:51:08,208 I give him my whole pocket, that's yours. 771 00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:12,375 Anybody that asks me after, doesn't get shit. 772 00:51:12,416 --> 00:51:15,208 Mike: No way man, they got to perform a service for me. 773 00:51:15,250 --> 00:51:16,666 Ron: Fucking Hacky Sack. 774 00:51:16,708 --> 00:51:18,041 Mike: If it makes me laugh, if you can do anything in front 775 00:51:18,083 --> 00:51:21,041 of me and I'm like, oh yeah ok, or it's just like 776 00:51:21,083 --> 00:51:24,791 oh, I'm sitting on my ass like give me change. 777 00:51:24,833 --> 00:51:28,041 It's like come on man, where's the sales pitch? 778 00:51:28,083 --> 00:51:33,541 Come on, give me something to work with, you know! 779 00:51:33,583 --> 00:51:34,875 Ron: Give me a stone so I can go to sleep. 780 00:51:34,916 --> 00:51:37,708 I got to go work for the man tomorrow. 781 00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:39,208 Mike: [That's what I don't know.] 782 00:51:39,250 --> 00:51:40,208 [Ron laughs] 783 00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:43,583 Ron: That old mighty dollar. 784 00:51:43,625 --> 00:51:48,625 [lighter] 785 00:51:48,666 --> 00:51:51,458 Mikey: If we are in a documentary we might as well 786 00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,750 be realistic about it, like ok, I accepted to be in 787 00:51:54,791 --> 00:51:58,416 a documentary, like, what's it all about, why did I 788 00:51:58,458 --> 00:52:03,375 strangely, maybe sort like of reluctantly agreed to do this? 789 00:52:03,416 --> 00:52:07,875 Well I have something to say also. 790 00:52:07,916 --> 00:52:11,416 And all this analysis of things just like, 791 00:52:11,458 --> 00:52:14,750 it needs to end, at least for me to have peace of mind, 792 00:52:14,791 --> 00:52:18,000 you know, because like you guys said like, 793 00:52:18,041 --> 00:52:19,750 do you want us to stop? 794 00:52:19,791 --> 00:52:26,958 Like kind of like yeah, you know I don't want this, clearly. 795 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,958 And most people don't want that at all, that stress and 796 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:41,041 that intense like examination from other people. 797 00:52:41,041 --> 00:52:46,416 that intense like examination from other people. 798 00:52:46,458 --> 00:52:52,083 [metal music] 799 00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:54,791 [Isaac is drowned out by the music] 800 00:52:54,833 --> 00:52:56,041 Mikey: [Unintelligible]. 801 00:52:56,083 --> 00:52:57,833 Isaac: Hey, hey, you guys want to hit this? 802 00:52:57,875 --> 00:52:59,208 Mikey and Conor: No, no! 803 00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:04,041 Isaac: [Unintelligible]. 804 00:53:04,083 --> 00:53:05,333 Conor: I'm sorry man. 805 00:53:05,375 --> 00:53:07,125 Isaac: [You never ask somebody]. 806 00:53:07,166 --> 00:53:08,916 [everyone laughs] 807 00:53:08,958 --> 00:53:19,000 [Isaac turns the metal music even louder] 808 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:25,333 [Isaac turns the metal music even louder] 809 00:53:25,375 --> 00:53:34,125 [[Mikey] shouts something at the other car] 810 00:53:34,166 --> 00:53:36,166 Conor: Oh that's cool, thanks a lot brother. 811 00:53:36,208 --> 00:53:38,958 Isaac: Happy doing it man, safe trips! 812 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:39,708 Conor: Thank you man 813 00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:42,083 Mikey: Thanks a lot man! 814 00:53:42,125 --> 00:53:43,500 Bina: First [year] that I'm trying to do. 815 00:53:43,541 --> 00:53:44,708 It actually is my first time on the West Coast ever. 816 00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:45,666 Conor: Oh fuck yeah. 817 00:53:45,708 --> 00:53:46,583 Bina: Yeah. 818 00:53:46,625 --> 00:53:47,833 Conor: Where are you guys from? 819 00:53:47,875 --> 00:53:49,583 Bina: I'm from State College, Pennsylvania, 820 00:53:49,625 --> 00:53:51,375 like right in the middle and he's from Delaware. 821 00:53:51,416 --> 00:53:52,750 Sam: Yeah. 822 00:53:52,791 --> 00:53:54,416 Bina: Do you guys want to burn one? 823 00:53:54,458 --> 00:53:57,291 We have some, and we were just about to smoke probably 824 00:53:57,333 --> 00:53:59,708 and give our hitchhiking for the day, it's getting dark. 825 00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:03,875 Conor: I'm personally good, I'm not smoking right now but... 826 00:54:03,916 --> 00:54:05,041 Yeah, I'm good for now. 827 00:54:05,083 --> 00:54:06,375 Bina: That's alright. 828 00:54:06,416 --> 00:54:08,208 Sam: That's a sweet bag dude. 829 00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:10,458 Conor: Thank you, I found this puppy up in the [U P]. 830 00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,875 Sam: It's awesome, that's super cool. 831 00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:14,583 Conor: You guys are going to give up hitchhiking? 832 00:54:14,625 --> 00:54:16,000 Sam: We should. 833 00:54:16,041 --> 00:54:17,208 Bina: Yeah we got pretty much nothing but time to go 834 00:54:17,250 --> 00:54:19,208 where we are going. 835 00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:21,166 I'm trying to get up to Humboldt county. 836 00:54:21,208 --> 00:54:23,333 Mikey: Are we on the 101? 837 00:54:23,375 --> 00:54:26,041 Bina: No, the 101 is right up there. 838 00:54:26,083 --> 00:54:36,125 [cars driving past] 839 00:54:36,125 --> 00:54:42,416 [cars driving past] 840 00:54:42,458 --> 00:54:46,416 Conor: How about right here, right down under here? 841 00:54:46,458 --> 00:54:47,708 Mikey: Just right here? 842 00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:51,250 Conor: Yeah, it's not too [unintelligible]. 843 00:54:51,291 --> 00:54:52,583 Are these berries? 844 00:54:52,625 --> 00:54:56,000 Oh hell yeah, there's a lot over here. 845 00:54:56,041 --> 00:54:57,625 These berries are everywhere. 846 00:54:57,666 --> 00:54:59,375 Mikey: Oh these are some good ones dude. 847 00:54:59,416 --> 00:55:01,750 Conor: Ah, garbage and berries, 848 00:55:01,791 --> 00:55:03,916 garbage and berries for dinner. 849 00:55:03,958 --> 00:55:06,666 Garbage and berries for breakfast. 850 00:55:06,708 --> 00:55:10,125 Life doesn't get much better than garbage and berries. 851 00:55:10,166 --> 00:55:17,875 [plane flies over] 852 00:55:17,916 --> 00:55:20,125 You want some corn Mikey? 853 00:55:20,166 --> 00:55:22,791 I've got an orange. 854 00:55:22,833 --> 00:55:26,625 You like the oranges, Mikey? 855 00:55:26,666 --> 00:55:28,291 [Mikey mumbles] 856 00:55:28,333 --> 00:55:29,958 Conor: You like the oranges? 857 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,791 Mikey: [muttering] Ah yeah, ohhhh. 858 00:55:31,833 --> 00:55:33,416 [Conor laughs] 859 00:55:33,458 --> 00:55:38,291 Conor: I bet they imported this corn from Illinois. 860 00:55:38,333 --> 00:55:39,875 How much money do you have Mikey? 861 00:55:39,916 --> 00:55:41,833 Mikey: 20 dollars. 862 00:55:41,875 --> 00:55:45,916 Conor: You're going to need like all that money for... 863 00:55:45,958 --> 00:55:47,208 Transportation fees. 864 00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:49,750 [Mikey laughs] 865 00:55:49,791 --> 00:55:50,916 Mikey: Really? 866 00:55:50,958 --> 00:55:52,333 Conor: Yeah. 867 00:55:52,375 --> 00:55:54,708 Mikey: I'm taking the bus, that's seven dollars right? 868 00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:57,291 Conor: About that, and then we got to take a ferry. 869 00:55:57,333 --> 00:56:03,083 [guitar playing] 870 00:56:03,125 --> 00:56:05,166 Mikey: There's like little tiny chunks of hemp seed 871 00:56:05,208 --> 00:56:12,625 from being in that bag though. 872 00:56:12,666 --> 00:56:15,833 Smells like pineapple. 873 00:56:15,875 --> 00:56:17,000 I think that was what it was. 874 00:56:17,041 --> 00:56:19,000 Conor: That is not good. 875 00:56:19,041 --> 00:56:22,083 Tastes rotten. 876 00:56:22,125 --> 00:56:23,666 All day I've been struggling with, 877 00:56:23,708 --> 00:56:25,208 [harmonica is being played] 878 00:56:25,250 --> 00:56:29,708 whether or not, or if I could possibly justify smoking weed. 879 00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:31,708 My problem is with alcohol, it's not with weed. 880 00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:34,375 It's just a matter of that will lead to me somehow 881 00:56:34,416 --> 00:56:38,708 rationalizing doing other drugs and drinking again. 882 00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:41,416 I can already see like how this would all unfold in my head, 883 00:56:41,458 --> 00:56:46,708 all the rationalization processes and... 884 00:56:46,750 --> 00:56:50,250 Mikey: I don't drink at all like... 885 00:56:50,291 --> 00:56:58,041 I usually [light one up], I like to do it so... 886 00:56:58,083 --> 00:57:00,208 I kind of forgot what I was trying to make a point about 887 00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:05,625 earlier but, oh yeah, uhm... 888 00:57:05,666 --> 00:57:11,541 [car in motion] 889 00:57:11,583 --> 00:57:13,833 Conor: You know certain people can smoke weed 890 00:57:13,875 --> 00:57:16,958 and they go throughout their day in a normal fashion. 891 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:24,500 Some people, get high and go to Mars. 892 00:57:24,541 --> 00:57:30,125 [birds faintly chirping] 893 00:57:30,125 --> 00:57:34,541 [birds faintly chirping] 894 00:57:54,958 --> 00:57:56,791 I'm glad these people picked us up. 895 00:57:56,833 --> 00:58:00,125 [Conor yawns] 896 00:58:00,166 --> 00:58:02,083 [engine starting] 897 00:58:02,125 --> 00:58:13,125 [car doors close one after another] 898 00:58:13,166 --> 00:58:14,500 [radio is playing] 899 00:58:14,541 --> 00:58:17,250 Zach: We're driving through Laytonville, California. 900 00:58:17,291 --> 00:58:20,208 It looked like they were singing and playing the harmonica 901 00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:25,416 which made them a little bit more appealing and actually I 902 00:58:25,458 --> 00:58:27,916 thought their bright colors that they were wearing too also 903 00:58:27,958 --> 00:58:31,041 made it pretty obvious that they were friendly folks. 904 00:58:31,083 --> 00:58:32,958 Monica: Yeah. 905 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,625 Zach: Mike seems like he's having his mind 906 00:58:35,666 --> 00:58:37,750 pried open pretty dramatically. 907 00:58:37,791 --> 00:58:39,375 You know, it's hard living. 908 00:58:39,416 --> 00:58:42,166 Monica: Yeah 909 00:58:42,208 --> 00:58:44,583 you're spending a lot of time on sleeping next to 910 00:58:44,625 --> 00:58:48,500 railroad tracks or whatever and I can definitely understand 911 00:58:48,541 --> 00:58:51,250 the interest in taking the edge off a little bit. 912 00:58:51,291 --> 00:58:52,875 Bear stayed sober- 913 00:58:52,916 --> 00:58:54,416 Monica: Yeah Bear stayed sober. 914 00:58:54,458 --> 00:58:55,833 Zach: But we gave them a [nudge] thinking they both 915 00:58:55,875 --> 00:58:57,708 wanted it and Mikey enjoyed it. 916 00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:59,333 [Zach and Monica laugh] 917 00:58:59,375 --> 00:59:01,000 Monica: Yeah. 918 00:59:01,041 --> 00:59:02,750 Zach: It's funny, there was a shift too in the conversation 919 00:59:02,791 --> 00:59:05,916 when that happened, a little bit of disconnect 920 00:59:05,958 --> 00:59:09,125 as far as our communication with Mikey afterwards. 921 00:59:09,166 --> 00:59:10,791 Ganja makes you really self-conscious. 922 00:59:10,833 --> 00:59:13,333 Monica: Yeah, and I think that's probably 923 00:59:13,375 --> 00:59:14,750 where it's stemming from. 924 00:59:14,791 --> 00:59:16,791 Zach: A little bit and if they're going to do it 925 00:59:16,833 --> 00:59:19,125 it's probably better [herb] or something else than 926 00:59:19,166 --> 00:59:22,291 alcohol, you know, because that's just going to send them 927 00:59:22,333 --> 00:59:25,875 tripping a downwards spiral and you see people who 928 00:59:25,916 --> 00:59:28,625 live this lifestyle that have taken that road and 929 00:59:28,666 --> 00:59:32,166 they're not shining as bright as these two guys are. 930 00:59:32,208 --> 00:59:42,541 [reggae music starts playing] 931 00:59:42,583 --> 00:59:53,208 [reggae singer sings to the music] 932 00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:58,791 [chafing and filing] 933 00:59:58,833 --> 00:59:59,791 [car door closes] 934 00:59:59,833 --> 01:00:05,833 Conor: Looking for [ganja]? 935 01:00:05,875 --> 01:00:15,916 [Conor snickers] 936 01:00:15,916 --> 01:00:23,916 [Conor snickers] 937 01:00:23,958 --> 01:00:26,750 Mikey: I'm not going to get a ride with this guy, you know, 938 01:00:26,791 --> 01:00:28,208 I'll try to go somewhere else 939 01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:36,291 probably with some different people. 940 01:00:36,333 --> 01:00:40,708 I have something like urgent that I need to tell you. 941 01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:45,875 I'm in a place where I, like, meet good people and 942 01:00:45,916 --> 01:00:52,458 I like what's going on but I don't feel right about why 943 01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:56,125 I'm there you know, do you know what I mean? 944 01:00:56,166 --> 01:00:58,125 When I get picked up by someone I don't want to tell them 945 01:00:58,166 --> 01:01:02,500 like hitchhiking, I don't want to tell them like oh yeah 946 01:01:02,541 --> 01:01:04,791 this is what I'm doing, there's some people following me 947 01:01:04,833 --> 01:01:06,916 right now like, if I don't want to tell them that that's 948 01:01:06,958 --> 01:01:09,125 what I'm doing then why should I keep doing it and going 949 01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:11,291 along with it, you know? 950 01:01:11,333 --> 01:01:14,291 Like it's clear to me that this is not what I should 951 01:01:14,333 --> 01:01:19,208 be doing because it feels funny and really strange. 952 01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:21,708 I realize that I made a decision that I 953 01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:31,833 didn't fully understand, wasn't really sure of. 954 01:01:31,875 --> 01:01:34,291 Arcata. 955 01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:36,833 What I'm really feeling is that I don't feel comfortable 956 01:01:36,875 --> 01:01:40,250 being in this situation that I'm in and I have the ability 957 01:01:40,291 --> 01:01:42,791 to change it for the better and 958 01:01:42,833 --> 01:01:44,333 so that's what I'm going to do. 959 01:01:44,375 --> 01:01:46,625 No, I don't need to think about it anymore, like I said 960 01:01:46,666 --> 01:01:49,583 I realize what is going on and that I don't want to 961 01:01:49,625 --> 01:01:53,125 have this continue to go, so. 962 01:01:53,166 --> 01:01:56,333 That's why I'm trying to leave here. 963 01:01:56,375 --> 01:02:02,666 I don't want to stay here but I'm going to leave here. 964 01:02:02,708 --> 01:02:12,750 Look it's these guys, Sam and Bina. 965 01:02:12,750 --> 01:02:18,041 Look it's these guys, Sam and Bina. 966 01:02:18,083 --> 01:02:20,416 Conor: Mikey decided that he's done with all of this, 967 01:02:20,458 --> 01:02:23,041 he doesn't want to be photographed or anything anymore 968 01:02:23,083 --> 01:02:24,708 so he's just going home. 969 01:02:24,750 --> 01:02:26,083 Bina: Where is his home? 970 01:02:26,125 --> 01:02:27,541 [dog barking] 971 01:02:27,583 --> 01:02:37,625 Conor: [In Chicago], around there, suburbs of Chicago. 972 01:02:37,625 --> 01:02:45,041 Conor: [In Chicago], around there, suburbs of Chicago. 973 01:02:45,083 --> 01:02:48,166 Mikey, did you brush your teeth today? 974 01:02:48,208 --> 01:02:49,375 Mikey: No. 975 01:02:49,416 --> 01:02:51,083 Conor: After you were eating plenty, 976 01:02:51,125 --> 01:02:52,500 you didn't brush your teeth today? 977 01:02:52,541 --> 01:02:54,125 Mikey: No way. 978 01:02:54,166 --> 01:02:57,666 Conor: Mikey! 979 01:02:57,708 --> 01:02:59,916 Didn't even know this place is [cool], I'm fucking glad 980 01:02:59,958 --> 01:03:03,750 it is our last night in Arcata. 981 01:03:03,791 --> 01:03:06,833 I was over Arcata right when we got dropped off. 982 01:03:06,875 --> 01:03:10,208 [sleeping bag zipper] 983 01:03:10,250 --> 01:03:14,000 Right when I saw that field full of hippies and reggae music 984 01:03:14,041 --> 01:03:20,750 I was done with it. 985 01:03:20,791 --> 01:03:26,625 [birds chirping] 986 01:03:26,666 --> 01:03:35,625 [telephone rings] 987 01:03:35,666 --> 01:03:42,166 Fuck it's cold! 988 01:03:42,208 --> 01:03:51,625 Conor: [Fuck yonder]. 989 01:03:51,666 --> 01:03:54,666 Voiceover: [Unintelligible]. 990 01:03:54,708 --> 01:03:59,166 Mikey: I mean, it's me that's letting it get to me but, 991 01:03:59,208 --> 01:04:02,291 it just feels like that's not what I would 992 01:04:02,333 --> 01:04:04,958 normally want to do with my life. 993 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:11,125 And I feel fake, or I'm not here for the right reasons. 994 01:04:11,166 --> 01:04:13,708 And I've just gotten more uncomfortable with it, 995 01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:17,333 the more that I've been around it. 996 01:04:17,375 --> 01:04:21,041 It's kind of helped me like wake up and realize, 997 01:04:21,083 --> 01:04:23,208 I don't have it so bad. 998 01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:31,666 I don't know, I really don't know what the answer is. 999 01:04:31,708 --> 01:04:33,166 Thank you. 1000 01:04:33,208 --> 01:04:36,125 Mikey: Yeah, thank you so much man, good luck. 1001 01:04:36,166 --> 01:04:39,333 Conor: Thanks. 1002 01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:43,166 Mikey: Hope it gets better, and better, and better. 1003 01:04:43,208 --> 01:04:51,208 Hello. 1004 01:04:51,250 --> 01:04:57,250 Conor: I guess I should say something special here but 1005 01:04:57,291 --> 01:05:01,458 I'm just going to start walking north instead. 1006 01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:12,416 [cars driving past] 1007 01:05:12,458 --> 01:05:25,666 It's ok. 1008 01:05:25,708 --> 01:05:33,083 Look at this thing. 1009 01:05:33,125 --> 01:05:46,166 Maybe he'll be my new road dog. 1010 01:05:46,208 --> 01:05:49,416 Bald driver: They drill for oil fields back there, 1011 01:05:49,458 --> 01:05:54,583 they took all the big ones and the easy ones first. 1012 01:05:54,625 --> 01:05:56,958 Conor: At first it was awesome travelling with Mike, 1013 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,708 nice to have someone to bullshit with on the on-ramp, 1014 01:05:59,750 --> 01:06:02,666 when there's nothing to do or say. 1015 01:06:02,708 --> 01:06:07,708 Someone to just joke around with, but it's easier to travel 1016 01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:10,416 on my onesome than with Mike. 1017 01:06:10,458 --> 01:06:22,583 [cars driving past] 1018 01:06:22,625 --> 01:06:24,791 Right now I'm running to some solitude, 1019 01:06:24,833 --> 01:06:35,250 some creative time, some serious woods time. 1020 01:06:35,291 --> 01:06:45,333 [ferry in motion] 1021 01:06:45,333 --> 01:06:51,291 [ferry in motion] 1022 01:06:51,333 --> 01:06:54,250 [birds chirping] 1023 01:06:54,291 --> 01:06:56,875 Dan: We went into the rain forest a couple of times... 1024 01:06:56,916 --> 01:06:58,666 Conor: You've been to all of this today? 1025 01:06:58,708 --> 01:07:00,041 Dan: No no no it's- 1026 01:07:00,083 --> 01:07:01,208 Conor: Oh you just got here today? 1027 01:07:01,250 --> 01:07:02,291 Dan and Nancy: Yes. 1028 01:07:02,333 --> 01:07:03,791 Conor: Gotcha. 1029 01:07:03,833 --> 01:07:06,250 Dan: Now it's been about six weeks so far for us doing this. 1030 01:07:06,291 --> 01:07:08,000 Conor: So you're doing this the right way. 1031 01:07:08,041 --> 01:07:11,166 Dan: We think so, we take about five months every year 1032 01:07:11,208 --> 01:07:14,833 and go traveling. 1033 01:07:14,875 --> 01:07:18,416 We've camped in a couple ghost towns at night, 1034 01:07:18,458 --> 01:07:22,000 just us and the ghosts and nothing else around. 1035 01:07:22,041 --> 01:07:23,125 That's cool. 1036 01:07:23,166 --> 01:07:24,541 [Dan laughs enthusiastically] 1037 01:07:24,583 --> 01:07:28,291 Conor: You we'd be sitting, hitchhiking, just laughing 1038 01:07:28,333 --> 01:07:31,958 telling jokes, telling stories, that was the first week. 1039 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,375 And then the second week we'd be hitchhiking and Mikey 1040 01:07:35,416 --> 01:07:37,791 would be trying to wrap up the whole world 1041 01:07:37,833 --> 01:07:40,708 into one perfect little bundle which is an impossible task 1042 01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:43,875 and it just never worked. 1043 01:07:43,916 --> 01:07:47,041 There's definitely a lot of things I, like, 1044 01:07:47,083 --> 01:07:49,875 wanted to say to Mike that I didn't say and want to take 1045 01:07:49,916 --> 01:07:54,291 the role of telling him what's right and wrong. 1046 01:07:54,333 --> 01:07:56,041 I wanted him to figure that out for himself but 1047 01:07:56,083 --> 01:07:57,666 the whole time I was traveling with him there was 1048 01:07:57,708 --> 01:08:02,791 definitely a lot I felt like I should tell him, you know. 1049 01:08:02,833 --> 01:08:08,833 Check it out Mikey, I made it to the Olympic National Park. 1050 01:08:08,875 --> 01:08:13,041 I'm going to fuck off from these guys for a little while. 1051 01:08:13,083 --> 01:08:19,625 Go on my own walk to talk to you, Mikey. 1052 01:08:19,666 --> 01:08:22,333 Because apparently according to these guys you took 1053 01:08:22,375 --> 01:08:25,875 the shape of this camera now so, if I want to talk to you 1054 01:08:25,916 --> 01:08:27,916 I got to talk to this piece of plastic and 1055 01:08:27,958 --> 01:08:33,250 glass and metal and foam. 1056 01:08:33,291 --> 01:08:38,291 It's weird, never thought you'd take the shape of 1057 01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:42,750 something that you hated so much but since you did, 1058 01:08:42,791 --> 01:08:44,916 you're in the shape of a camera. 1059 01:08:44,958 --> 01:08:45,916 Alright. 1060 01:08:45,958 --> 01:08:48,250 [Conor laughs] 1061 01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:50,375 It's beautiful out here man. 1062 01:08:50,416 --> 01:08:51,875 It's a shame it had to end where it did because 1063 01:08:51,916 --> 01:08:56,625 we were so close to getting were we wanted to go you know. 1064 01:08:56,666 --> 01:09:00,166 Sometimes you just got to follow your gut instinct and 1065 01:09:00,208 --> 01:09:07,750 if that is not being on camera, well then fuck the camera. 1066 01:09:07,791 --> 01:09:10,791 This place is like the best place to walk barefoot 1067 01:09:10,833 --> 01:09:14,208 because there is just this moss everywhere and it is 1068 01:09:14,250 --> 01:09:17,791 super soft on your toes. 1069 01:09:17,833 --> 01:09:19,958 This tree it's branches look like your hair, almost. 1070 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,458 [Conor snickers] 1071 01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:27,375 I don't know what exactly your plans are, you know, 1072 01:09:27,416 --> 01:09:30,833 now that you're back in the suburbs. 1073 01:09:30,875 --> 01:09:34,125 But you know, my advice for you like I said before 1074 01:09:34,166 --> 01:09:37,833 would just be to keep your nose clean, you know. 1075 01:09:37,875 --> 01:09:48,750 [Unintelligible] is cool, but it's not like this you know. 1076 01:09:48,791 --> 01:09:51,666 If you ever feel like life is getting overwhelming and 1077 01:09:51,708 --> 01:09:53,875 things are too crazy? 1078 01:09:53,916 --> 01:09:55,833 Just remember that there's always places like this 1079 01:09:55,875 --> 01:09:58,333 waiting for you. 1080 01:09:58,375 --> 01:10:06,416 So, if you need to change, change there. 1081 01:10:06,458 --> 01:10:15,666 [Conor starts playing guitar] 1082 01:10:15,708 --> 01:10:18,666 He doesn't want to be portrayed where he is now 1083 01:10:18,708 --> 01:10:20,458 because he doesn't know where he is now. 1084 01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:23,416 You know if you caught Mikey in a couple of months 1085 01:10:23,458 --> 01:10:26,166 after he started painting on his empty canvas 1086 01:10:26,208 --> 01:10:30,541 and he had a good grasp of who he was, he might've felt 1087 01:10:30,583 --> 01:10:32,708 a lot more comfortable about being on the cameras. 1088 01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:38,000 But if you caught me when I was in Mikey's shoes, 1089 01:10:38,041 --> 01:10:40,791 I would've done the same thing, I would've ran. 1090 01:10:40,833 --> 01:10:47,166 [Conor starts playing Log Cabin Thoughts by Roaming Bear] 1091 01:10:47,166 --> 01:10:50,833 [Conor starts playing Log Cabin Thoughts by Roaming Bear] 1092 01:11:08,708 --> 01:11:10,541 The only people I'm really looking to travel with 1093 01:11:10,583 --> 01:11:16,250 for [one piece at a time] at this point would be musicians. 1094 01:11:16,291 --> 01:11:19,333 Or it would be nice to find a lady to travel with 1095 01:11:19,375 --> 01:11:21,708 or make music with me but if I can't 1096 01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:23,791 find that I'd settle for a band. 1097 01:11:23,833 --> 01:11:25,666 And the ladies will come later! 1098 01:11:25,708 --> 01:11:27,916 [Conor laughs] 1099 01:11:27,958 --> 01:11:34,166 [Log Cabin Thoughts by Roaming Bear is being played] 1100 01:11:34,166 --> 01:11:37,958 [Log Cabin Thoughts by Roaming Bear is being played] 1101 01:12:17,916 --> 01:12:24,791 Pat: Yeah, yeah we're by 3H. 1102 01:12:24,833 --> 01:12:27,000 I don't really know the full thing but I think 1103 01:12:27,041 --> 01:12:29,875 he might've caught something while he was on the road. 1104 01:12:29,916 --> 01:12:33,500 And he's just coming home because of that kind of. 1105 01:12:33,541 --> 01:12:34,916 Conor: I don't know if I have something different than 1106 01:12:34,958 --> 01:12:37,250 a Staph infection but I mean like my blisters and stuff 1107 01:12:37,291 --> 01:12:41,750 are going away but I still am getting fevers and headaches 1108 01:12:41,791 --> 01:12:44,833 and like nauseous and dizzy every day. 1109 01:12:44,875 --> 01:12:50,666 So, I didn't want to have to hitchhike and hop freight more. 1110 01:12:50,708 --> 01:12:53,666 Pat: Just in case something bad ever does happen he always 1111 01:12:53,708 --> 01:12:55,458 has the option to come home. 1112 01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:56,791 I think he likes coming home too because 1113 01:12:56,833 --> 01:12:58,833 he does miss his family and stuff like that so, 1114 01:12:58,875 --> 01:13:02,083 I think it's all around good 1115 01:13:02,125 --> 01:13:03,333 Conor: How's it going man? 1116 01:13:03,375 --> 01:13:04,625 Pat: Good, good to see you. 1117 01:13:04,666 --> 01:13:06,166 Conor: Good seeing you. 1118 01:13:06,208 --> 01:13:09,333 I talked to Mikey's mom for like 10 minutes a couple of days 1119 01:13:09,375 --> 01:13:12,250 ago, she asked me if Mikey seemed to have fun. 1120 01:13:12,291 --> 01:13:14,291 I said he did at first. 1121 01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:26,791 [Conor laughs] 1122 01:13:26,833 --> 01:13:41,500 [birds chirping] 1123 01:13:41,541 --> 01:13:47,041 I live here five days a week now, for the time being. 1124 01:13:47,083 --> 01:13:48,875 Sunday night through Friday night, 1125 01:13:48,916 --> 01:13:51,250 I get 48 hours off on the weekend. 1126 01:13:51,291 --> 01:13:54,208 Some about 15 weeks ago I started working here for 1127 01:13:54,250 --> 01:13:57,500 my grandpa as his caregiver. 1128 01:13:57,541 --> 01:14:03,250 It's not very hard work per se but it's hard to be at work 1129 01:14:03,291 --> 01:14:09,125 that long and not really be doing what I want to do. 1130 01:14:09,166 --> 01:14:12,166 Steve: He's always available. 1131 01:14:12,208 --> 01:14:15,458 Never grumbles, always smiling. 1132 01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:20,416 He's told me some of his experiences on the trains 1133 01:14:20,458 --> 01:14:25,500 and cars where he maybe gets complimentary rides, somewhere. 1134 01:14:25,541 --> 01:14:28,666 I would definitely say it shaped him a little. 1135 01:14:28,708 --> 01:14:31,000 You can't be exposed to that many different 1136 01:14:31,041 --> 01:14:36,250 situations, environments, other personalities along the road 1137 01:14:36,291 --> 01:14:42,125 of life and wouldn't be swayed a little bit by it. 1138 01:14:42,166 --> 01:14:44,291 Conor: I don't think I do a good job of fighting it off. 1139 01:14:44,333 --> 01:14:48,958 I think it's always there, I mean it's just that 1140 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,708 anxiety that I have to bear I guess. 1141 01:14:52,750 --> 01:14:56,166 That as long as I'm going to be here doing 1142 01:14:56,208 --> 01:14:59,916 monotonous things, living a normal life I'm going to 1143 01:14:59,958 --> 01:15:04,125 be desiring to do something more exciting. 1144 01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:08,958 So, that feeling doesn't go away. 1145 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,625 Music helps me forget it temporarily but it doesn't cure it. 1146 01:15:14,666 --> 01:15:24,708 [guitar playing] 1147 01:15:24,708 --> 01:15:35,333 [guitar playing] 1148 01:15:35,375 --> 01:15:38,250 Tom: He was determined to go forward with going out 1149 01:15:38,291 --> 01:15:41,000 with Conor and said wait a minute 1150 01:15:41,041 --> 01:15:43,000 this isn't what I want to do. 1151 01:15:43,041 --> 01:15:46,125 Tammy: He has realized he doesn't want to be a bum 1152 01:15:46,166 --> 01:15:49,375 living on the road, he said he used to think that 1153 01:15:49,416 --> 01:15:51,250 that's what he did want to do. 1154 01:15:51,291 --> 01:15:54,708 He realized that's absolutely not what he wants to do. 1155 01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:58,958 [Mikey sighs] 1156 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,375 Mikey: So what have I been doing, growing food. 1157 01:16:01,416 --> 01:16:07,750 Tammy: He found a guy that is one of the most well-known 1158 01:16:07,791 --> 01:16:11,250 farmers in the country that do permaculture. 1159 01:16:11,291 --> 01:16:13,791 Do you want to visit him? 1160 01:16:13,833 --> 01:16:17,708 Here's Michael, of course. 1161 01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:22,416 [Tammy laughs] 1162 01:16:22,458 --> 01:16:29,750 Some of us walk on our feet, others do things differently. 1163 01:16:29,791 --> 01:16:37,458 He's healed a lot, he's dealt with Matt's death a lot more 1164 01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:39,916 then he had when he was here. 1165 01:16:39,958 --> 01:16:43,708 He was very unhappy here, and this is not the kind of life 1166 01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:47,333 that makes sense to him. 1167 01:16:47,375 --> 01:16:49,500 Mikey: I do not work for money, ever. 1168 01:16:49,541 --> 01:16:52,208 I don't have money. 1169 01:16:52,250 --> 01:16:59,833 I'm not scared at all, of that. 1170 01:16:59,875 --> 01:17:03,083 Tammy: Will he ever come back here? 1171 01:17:03,125 --> 01:17:09,291 To live, I would be surprised if he did. 1172 01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:13,250 Mikey: Two years it has been. 1173 01:17:13,291 --> 01:17:15,500 Yeah, I was searching for a lot of things. 1174 01:17:15,541 --> 01:17:17,875 And I still search. 1175 01:17:17,916 --> 01:17:22,833 Thanks Conor, for doing what you're doing and 1176 01:17:22,875 --> 01:17:26,125 inspiring all these people. 1177 01:17:26,166 --> 01:17:31,125 It's getting dark so I'm going to get down from this tree. 1178 01:17:31,166 --> 01:17:34,208 Thank you all for watching, this is just a message 1179 01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:42,000 from the Underground News Network. 1180 01:17:42,041 --> 01:17:46,041 [Guitar based song plays] 87785

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