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[train in motion]
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[train horn]
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[train horn]
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[train horn]
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Conor: I've never hopped on
this train in the daylight.
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[train in motion]
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[easy-going guitar music]
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Pat: He'll jump on
trains, from here and
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go all the way to California.
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[distant train horn]
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He'll do it with like 10
bucks in his pocket and
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he'll make it there by
himself and he doesn't like
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staying in one spot, he
likes to keep moving because
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he feels like, that's what
keeps him going in life rather
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than just staying around
and doing nothing.
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He likes to be on the move.
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Conor: Sorry it took so
long man, here you go.
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[guitar being jammed]
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Man with American flag on
his back: [unintelligible]
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good for the body,
good for the soul.
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[slight laughter]
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[guitar being played]
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Sue: I knew he wanted
to be a musician,
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and so in my mind I was kind
of guiding him towards college.
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He was going to go to Southern
Illinois and I don't know if
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you know what
happened right before
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he went to Southern Illinois.
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[guitar playing picks up]
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[Conor starts playing
The Nets by Roaming Bear]
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Sue: I was pushing, pushing,
pushing and the whole year
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beforehand he kept saying:
"No mom, that is not me
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"I don't want to go to college."
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And he actually did
overdose, he tried to
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kill himself, is was a call
to say: "You're not listening,
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"I have to be true to
my own heart and soul."
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[distant train horn]
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[train in motion]
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Conor: We'll hop another
train in New Orleans and
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maybe we'll hitchhike from
Memphis, I don't really know.
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Jennie: Yeah from
Memphis we have no idea.
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[train crossing
alarm and train horn]
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[loud train horn]
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[train bell]
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[train horn]
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[train horn]
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Jennie: We're leaving.
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[gentle guitar music]
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[train in motion]
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Conor: The first time
I traveled on my own,
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I left the first week
of November in 2008,
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with 50 dollars and a backpack
full of a bunch of junk
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I really didn't need,
probably like 60 pounds.
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It all just made sense to me.
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These guys are [golden].
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Jennie: These people
were not ready
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for Katrina to hit them.
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Fuck this place.
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Conor: We went over to
the school that I was
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squatting at the last
time I came here.
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[several people shouting]
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When I was staying there,
there was maybe between five
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and 10 of us each
day staying there.
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There weren't too many kids
and we were all friends.
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Matt: Long story short
it is all different.
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It's just fucked,
it's all fucked.
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Every single spot
that I have been to,
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recently, has been more
blown up than anything.
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It's that movie 'Into the
Wild', it fucked everything up.
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I'm not even kidding,
it was a great book.
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Scabby: In the 90's-
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Matt: But that movie
fucked everything up,
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That was a bunch of 14
year old motherfuckers now
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that are out here
blowing up lines.
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You know, you think we're
a bunch of drunk punks
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that just want to fight
people in the street?
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We prefer to be by train yards
and eat some good-ass stew.
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Curtis: I don't want to fucking
stay in the house anymore.
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Matt: Dude, check
it all out man,
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Curtis: Yeah, you know
what, there's certain things
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you haven't done in your life?
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Do them, you know what I mean?
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You only got one life to live,
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especially if you're this young.
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Conor: Did you ride
trains here from...
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Right now Scab and this
other guy named Chris
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said that they were
going to show us.
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Conor: Cool.
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Curtis: So you know, my friends
around the hood are like:
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"Yo, isn't that dangerous?"
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and I'm like yeah, but so is
the hood so what the fuck?
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[Conor, Matt and Curtis laugh]
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Scabby: Hobo stew,
the Mulligan stew.
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The one tradition that
we actually hold on to
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from the original hobo
brothers, is served.
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[Matt]: Why are you
guys listening to him?
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Scabby: There's no point in
bowls, there's no point in cups,
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there's no point in
separating things.
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We spin everything, I mean...
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Dude a bunch of fucking yuppies
could show up right now,
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I mean we will spin
this pot with them.
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There ya go.
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[Conor]: Thank you, my man.
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Matt: This is the home-bum
at his natural habitat.
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[Matt and Scabby laugh]
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Scabby: I'm not a home-bum.
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I never stay anywhere.
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Matt: Yeah bullshit.
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Conor: I didn't meet one sober
street kid today, not one.
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Being around them
was painful now.
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[fast guitar music]
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The last couple of months
before I decided to get sober...
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they're all just madness.
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It is really when I came
down here last Halloween that
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sparked the craziest days of
my alcoholism and [raging].
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[big band music playing]
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[inaudible]
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[inaudible]
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Jennie: I've never really
thought of the future,
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really stressed about it,
I was always concerned
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about what I'm going to
do in the next few days.
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I want to go everywhere,
I want to see everything.
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[general crowd mumbling]
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Conor: Lately, I don't even want
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to be traveling with a backpack.
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You know, this is definitely not
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something I want
to do all the time.
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I couldn't even
imagine working a j o b
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to pay for rent or
something, maybe.
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Jennie: People always
worry about the future,
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we don't have a
future right now.
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You don't have the
past right now,
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you have right now, now,
you know, that's it.
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[guitar being played]
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Conor: I love the
feeling of going home,
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there's nothing like it.
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[guitar being played]
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[guitar being played]
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Sue: Oh well, why
don't you start there.
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Where do you usually sleep
when you're on the road.
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that's my like favorite
place to sleep.
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Sue: As I told you when I
invited you to the classroom,
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they just really, really,
wanted to meet you because you
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intrigued them and they've
got lots of questions for you.
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Conor: Alright, oh, I'm
supposed to be calling you guys.
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You had your hand
up first though.
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Girl with blue hair band:
When you go out hitchhiking
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and you get in
other people's cars,
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do you ever get
scared or like...?
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Conor: Sometimes, I am
scared yeah and I would not
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suggest that any of you
guys start hitchhiking.
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Boy with black hair and
gray shirt: Were you scared
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the first time, when
you hopped on a train?
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Conor: I wasn't scared,
my heart was beating like
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really fast but it was in a
good way, I was so excited,
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all my adrenaline
started was pumping.
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[Pedro]: Do you ever
get like, lonely,
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when you're just...?
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Conor: Sometimes it really
kicks in when you're a couple
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1000 miles away from home
and I, you know, want to be
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with my mom, want to be with
my friends and family and
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it kicks in that, there's
no way that I could possibly
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come back here any time soon
because I'm so far away that
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I can't afford a ticket
home, I'm just stuck.
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Sue: [Pedro] has been begging
me if he could go with you.
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[the class laughs]
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Girl with blue hair band:
Would you ever take somebody
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with you, like
one of us [maybe]?
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Conor: Do you have any plans,
or any ideas of a plan?
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Mikey: Not really, I mean
I have like, yeah I guess,
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a couple of ideas but like...
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Conor: Then, where
do you want to stop,
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where do you want to go
or who do you want to see?
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[train bell and horn]
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Mikey: Surprised me though
that they have some shit here.
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This is what I wanted to
do for a long, long time.
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When I was a little kid I
used to think about, you know,
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like damn hobos ride
freight trains and I thought
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that was like a
pretty cool life.
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I guess I fantasized about it.
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Conor: I don't really know
what he is about, you know,
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I don't know if he like
wants to go and travel
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and just like, score all the
free pot he can in California
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and like fuck off
at rainbow gathering
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or if he wants to like...
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I don't know if hopping
trains is even something
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that he is into, or
hitchhiking, or if he just wants
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to do it to get away
from a bad situation
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which could be a
possibility too.
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Do you make jewelry at all?
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Mikey: Uh-huh.
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Like, wire wrapping
and things like that?
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You can get like 20
or 30 of these from
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one bullhorn, which costs
like five bucks from a farm.
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You cut it down
[into these wraps].
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People pay like 20 or 30
bucks for one of these,
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and it takes like an
hour, tops, to make it.
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Perfect way to make
money on the road.
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Mikey: I haven't tried it yet,
I like make hemp and stuff
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but like my brother started
making wraps like before he died
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and I have a bunch of his
silver and like stuff like that.
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I've looked at it, you know,
like watching him doing it.
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I like understand how to do
it but I haven't tried it yet.
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[faint sounds of nature]
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[Tom]: ...and that is a fact.
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Mikey: I'm stuck in here,
these people are like stuck,
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they've like [set ground] and
I'm going to break out of it.
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[guitar plays]
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Tammy: So what exactly
are we discussing?
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Tom: At age 10, when Michael
was 10 and Matt was 13,
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Matt had been down the city
a couple of times and then
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he asked if Mikey could go down.
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[slow paced guitar music]
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They went down to the
city, take the train and
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street skated the city.
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Tammy: Come back with stories
about giving his money
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to the homeless guys
and talking to them.
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Tom: Michael always
has big brother.
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Tammy: Yeah, all the
guys watched out for him.
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Tom: Yeah he had his big
brother always looking out.
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Tammy: Uh-huh.
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Tammy: That's Matt and Mike
wrestling, that's Michael...
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Tom: Yeah.
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Tammy: Remember that little
purple hat he always wore?
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[skateboarding]
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[skateboard clangs on metal bar]
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Tammy: Michael has
been struggling
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for a long time, for years.
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Tom: You know in any household
there's an expectation and
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over the course of the
last couple of months Mike
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[did] expect things differently
or expect more or whatever
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and things weren't changing.
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Tammy: There are ways to
live off the grid and I think
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if you want to eat,
you got to work.
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If you want somewhere to
live, you have to work.
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You can't just being mooching
off of everybody forever.
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[Conor starts playing Minimum
Wage Brigade by Roaming Bear]
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[Conor starts playing Minimum
Wage Brigade by Roaming Bear]
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Tom: That's clearly somebody
I want my son to emulate...
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[Tammy laughs]
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Tom: Isn't it?
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Tammy: No.
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[Tom laughs]
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[band is jamming]
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Conor: Alright, so, I'm
Roaming Bear and this is Ethan.
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[applause and cheering]
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It's good to be
playing with him again.
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So this first song
is called Run and is
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about running away from
here, or there, or anywhere.
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[the duo starts playing
Run by Roaming Bear]
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[the duo starts playing
Run by Roaming Bear]
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Mikey: I got three teeshirts,
two packages of socks,
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a pocket knife and utensils.
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Olive leaf complex
if anyone gets sick.
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I got my pot.
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For a little while it's like,
I can't do this, like I'm
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not going to do this being
on film and everything like,
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that was the big
thing that I didn't
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really feel to good about.
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Like I said, I don't want to
come back here, I want to just
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get out and probably just
like stay in California.
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That's where I want to be.
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I mean, for a little
while at least.
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Tammy: Ok, stop all of this.
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Mikey: Don't cry in front
of the cameras, bye.
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Tammy: I love you.
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Mikey: I love you too.
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[train in motion]
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[train in motion]
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Alright so which
one do i get on,
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the front or the back?
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Conor: The front one.
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And you want to get
on as fast as you can.
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I'm going to have
to run and keep up
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with the train the whole time.
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I can't get on until you're on.
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Mikey: Holy motherfucker!
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Do I get up?
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Conor: Yeah, up in it.
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Conor: Yeah, up in it.
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Mikey: Ultimately, we are free
to do, what we want to do.
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You know, you always have the
ability to free your mind.
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No matter what time
of the day it is,
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what time of the year it
is or where you are at.
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[train engine]
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Conor: Oh shit.
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We're in a train yard, man.
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I don't like that.
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Mikey: We're slowing down.
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Conor: We're just stopped in
the yard right now, waiting.
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I don't see any workers
out there though, so...
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That's a plus.
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That's a plus.
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Mikey: [Unintelligible]
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[various strong
train yard noises]
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[frantic ticking]
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Mikey: ...on the night train.
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Conor: Yeah maybe...
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Mikey: Yeah I kind of want to
get the fuck out of here dude.
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Conor: Let's just
keep going man...
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[crickets chirping]
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Mikey: I've wanted to ride
trains and travel around
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like that since I was
like a really little kid.
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But now I'm just like, being
like introduced to the idea
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about actually doing it.
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It's like slowly giving me
more knowledge about it before
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I came on and it just
like became a bigger
part of my world.
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The first time I met you was
like, wow man you're like a
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traveling man and now like
that's like just kind of normal.
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traveling man and now like
that's like just kind of normal.
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Conor: We're trying to
make it to the West Coast.
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Do you think these guys
know what I'm talking about?
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[guitar playing]
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[guitar playing]
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Conor: Alright, this is
pretty much the trick here.
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As you walk out with a gas can
in one hand, CD in the other,
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ask them if they'll spare
a gallon of gas for a CD.
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Mikey: First try, I
think it's about like,
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just confidence man.
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Oh shit!
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[guitar playing]
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[car in motion]
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Mitch: So, [unintelligible],
get out here or if you want
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I can actually take you
out to Idaho Springs.
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Mikey: I don't care.
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Conor: You're
going out that way?
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00:24:34,125 --> 00:24:35,916
Mitch: No, but I got
nothing else to do tonight.
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Mikey: We stopped in Idaho
Springs and me and Bear
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were about to walk to a
gas station and fill up
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water bottles when all of
the sudden I just like notice
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this guy talking to Conor and...
331
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[Conor is talking
inaudibly with the driver]
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Conor: Do you think me and Mikey
could grab a ride with you?
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Driver: Yeah.
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Conor: Cool.
335
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Driver: Alright,
[unintelligible]
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Mikey: I just got
to fill up some
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00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,666
water real quickly right there.
338
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:03,125
Driver: I got better water at
my house than they got here.
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00:25:03,166 --> 00:25:03,958
[Mikey laughs]
340
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,666
Mikey: Alright, alright.
341
00:25:05,708 --> 00:25:09,125
Conor: He saw our packs and
asked if we had a place to stay
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00:25:09,166 --> 00:25:13,041
and apparently he
takes in strays here
quite often, he said.
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00:25:13,083 --> 00:25:14,958
He's let all kinds
of traveling people
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just come and use
his campground.
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00:25:20,208 --> 00:25:21,708
Mikey: NO, fuck!
346
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:24,291
Conor: It feels like there's
less random acts of kindness
347
00:25:24,333 --> 00:25:26,875
like this in the suburbs
because everyone is just
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00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,500
trying to survive, they're
just trying to get by.
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00:25:29,541 --> 00:25:33,708
And out here, you know, you
just got room to breathe.
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Mikey: Zip-line take one,
never before done in my life.
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Aaaah, aaah!!
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00:25:41,083 --> 00:25:43,083
[guitar starts playing]
353
00:25:43,125 --> 00:25:44,375
[thump]
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00:25:44,416 --> 00:25:47,708
[Mikey laughs]
355
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,666
That was pretty scary dude.
356
00:25:49,708 --> 00:25:59,750
[guitar playing and
streams of water flowing]
357
00:25:59,750 --> 00:26:07,083
[guitar playing and
streams of water flowing]
358
00:26:07,125 --> 00:26:17,166
I want to eat this so bad.
359
00:26:17,166 --> 00:26:26,208
I want to eat this so bad.
360
00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:28,708
Oh yeah dude did you
see this last night?
361
00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:30,875
Conor: Yeah,
[unintelligible] the water.
362
00:26:30,916 --> 00:26:32,666
Mikey: Yeah man.
363
00:26:32,708 --> 00:26:34,750
See this, it even rhymes too!
364
00:26:34,791 --> 00:26:36,041
[Conor snickers]
365
00:26:36,083 --> 00:26:37,916
Somewhat.
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00:26:37,958 --> 00:26:43,541
[cars driving past]
367
00:26:43,583 --> 00:26:46,416
Conor: I coughed up
chunks of blood today.
368
00:26:46,458 --> 00:26:48,083
That's why I know
that I'm getting sick.
369
00:26:48,125 --> 00:26:50,083
Mikey: Yeah.
370
00:26:50,125 --> 00:26:51,916
Kinda good tasting...
371
00:26:51,958 --> 00:26:56,291
It might make you like [gargling
sounds] a little bit...
372
00:26:56,333 --> 00:27:00,250
Super ORAC antioxidant.
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00:27:00,291 --> 00:27:01,916
William: I want to try some but
374
00:27:01,958 --> 00:27:04,666
I'm kinda scared because
of how Bear reacted to it.
375
00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:06,791
Mikey: It says it supports
a healthy immune system,
376
00:27:06,833 --> 00:27:11,416
healthy joints,
healthy blood pressure.
377
00:27:11,458 --> 00:27:18,666
After that it took maybe
like an hour of waiting.
378
00:27:18,708 --> 00:27:22,000
Conor: A dude named
Troy picked us up.
379
00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:28,375
And then Helena, Helena was a
super cutie, super fine cutie.
380
00:27:28,416 --> 00:27:30,625
Helena if you see
this, I could love you.
381
00:27:30,666 --> 00:27:32,625
[Mikey laughs]
382
00:27:32,666 --> 00:27:35,125
Yeah these kids took us
to Newcastle and I asked
383
00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:37,208
them right when we got out of
the car if the cops were cool
384
00:27:37,250 --> 00:27:39,291
there, if we could
walk on the highway
385
00:27:39,333 --> 00:27:41,166
without getting in trouble.
386
00:27:41,208 --> 00:27:45,041
And sure enough, we had
two chargers on our trail,
387
00:27:45,083 --> 00:27:48,791
flashing lights and the
cops came and hassled us.
388
00:27:48,833 --> 00:27:52,541
In the past 24 hours we've
been offered twice to get high
389
00:27:52,583 --> 00:27:56,166
for free and neither of us
had the urge to get high.
390
00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:57,125
Mikey: Three times.
391
00:27:57,166 --> 00:27:58,625
Conor: Three times, apparently.
392
00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:02,125
Mikey: After I said no to
them, I was thinking about it
393
00:28:02,166 --> 00:28:04,750
for like the next 20 minutes,
like man can I just finish
394
00:28:04,791 --> 00:28:08,000
that because you just left
it sitting there, you know.
395
00:28:08,041 --> 00:28:11,333
But I was thinking, you
know, like maybe I can go
396
00:28:11,375 --> 00:28:15,916
a whole month being
completely sober and just
397
00:28:15,958 --> 00:28:20,375
enjoy the luxuries
of consciousness.
398
00:28:20,416 --> 00:28:26,125
[guitar and harmonica playing]
399
00:28:26,125 --> 00:28:30,416
[guitar and harmonica playing]
400
00:28:51,125 --> 00:28:53,708
Conor: How's it going man?
401
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:59,250
Smags: Uhm, I don't even know
what to say about him man.
402
00:28:59,291 --> 00:29:03,500
Like, he came and visited
me last year in California
403
00:29:03,541 --> 00:29:08,458
which meant a lot to me
because I was in a patient
404
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:12,541
rehabilitation center and
this kid just hops on a train
405
00:29:12,583 --> 00:29:16,250
and hitchhikes and does whatever
he has to, to get out to
406
00:29:16,291 --> 00:29:19,250
California and makes a
point to stop and see me.
407
00:29:19,291 --> 00:29:22,458
Conor: And I got
kicked out of there,
408
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,875
for not being a sober person.
409
00:29:24,916 --> 00:29:26,125
Mikey: Ayyy...
410
00:29:26,166 --> 00:29:36,208
[guitar jam]
411
00:29:36,208 --> 00:29:46,333
[guitar jam]
412
00:29:46,375 --> 00:29:47,666
Conor: I've left sober
on the road before
413
00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:50,250
and I've always come back drunk.
414
00:29:50,291 --> 00:29:54,083
I really realized that I
needed to get sober when I
415
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:56,250
got two of my friends
pregnant, two separate friends
416
00:29:56,291 --> 00:29:58,583
in the same month.
417
00:29:58,625 --> 00:30:00,625
I didn't even know about one
of them until after she had
418
00:30:00,666 --> 00:30:04,750
an abortion and then found
out about the other pregnancy
419
00:30:04,791 --> 00:30:07,916
while the girl was
having a miscarriage.
420
00:30:07,958 --> 00:30:10,833
That really made me
realize that yeah there's
421
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:18,541
consequences to my actions.
422
00:30:18,583 --> 00:30:21,000
Mikey: I mean the road is
definitely a hard place
423
00:30:21,041 --> 00:30:23,875
to be sober but if you
have a good support system
424
00:30:23,916 --> 00:30:26,291
on the road I think...
425
00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:28,708
If you have a good support
system anywhere I think you can
426
00:30:28,750 --> 00:30:40,083
do anything you want really.
427
00:30:40,125 --> 00:30:42,541
Conor: It's this right?
428
00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:43,750
[unintelligible]
429
00:30:43,791 --> 00:30:46,041
[Cameraman]: Bum life yeah.
430
00:30:46,083 --> 00:30:53,541
Conor: Bum life.
431
00:30:53,583 --> 00:30:57,666
Now if someone said this
stuff might be set aside for
432
00:30:57,708 --> 00:31:01,291
a pig farmer, because
pigs will eat anything...
433
00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:04,125
So, it's probably
not all very good.
434
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:10,333
Some potatoes, these
potatoes look pretty good.
435
00:31:10,375 --> 00:31:14,250
You know what, cream puffs?
436
00:31:14,291 --> 00:31:21,083
Nah-ah, not good.
437
00:31:21,125 --> 00:31:22,541
Ugh.
438
00:31:22,583 --> 00:31:25,500
The cream is anything but
like cream and cheese.
439
00:31:25,541 --> 00:31:29,125
No good, it has been sitting
out in the sun all day.
440
00:31:29,166 --> 00:31:31,625
This stuff has been
here for awhile.
441
00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:34,208
Oh, oh [snap peas] down here.
442
00:31:34,250 --> 00:31:37,875
Mikey: Wow, imagine that!
443
00:31:37,916 --> 00:31:39,500
Conor: Some fresh green beans
444
00:31:39,541 --> 00:31:41,708
covered in chocolate
and frosting.
445
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:44,166
Mikey: It's amazing, the flavor
446
00:31:44,208 --> 00:31:45,958
combinations you'll
find out here.
447
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:52,333
Conor: It's almost
like shopping, kind of.
448
00:31:52,375 --> 00:32:01,916
Got four papayas, a
mango, half an avocado...
449
00:32:01,958 --> 00:32:05,875
Mikey: I wanted
to try a plantain,
450
00:32:05,916 --> 00:32:13,125
but I didn't want to
pay for one inside.
451
00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:14,666
Conor: I don't know, I don't
even, I got to get like
452
00:32:14,708 --> 00:32:17,916
permission to talk about this
right, quick, because you know
453
00:32:17,958 --> 00:32:21,500
it's their spot and I won't
fuck it up for them so...
454
00:32:21,541 --> 00:32:23,166
Cameraman: Go ahead, sure.
455
00:32:23,208 --> 00:32:28,583
[Conor talks with
female anarchists]
456
00:32:28,625 --> 00:32:31,291
Female anarchist: So, mostly
it's that we're a sober space,
457
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,500
so no drugs and alcohol.
458
00:32:33,541 --> 00:32:36,000
[unintelligible]
459
00:32:36,041 --> 00:32:38,083
Because it makes certain
people really uncomfortable.
460
00:32:38,125 --> 00:32:41,583
And they won't be able
to rely on a safe space.
461
00:32:41,625 --> 00:32:51,833
[unintelligible]
462
00:32:51,875 --> 00:32:56,500
Mikey: I slept on that little
couch, the really nice one.
463
00:32:56,541 --> 00:33:01,125
[Mikey laughs]
464
00:33:01,166 --> 00:33:08,916
Today is food not bombs,
big vegan potluck.
465
00:33:08,958 --> 00:33:17,666
[Spanish conversations
in the background]
466
00:33:17,708 --> 00:33:19,583
Hey, hey, hey!
467
00:33:19,625 --> 00:33:25,791
[Conor starts playing Let
It Fall by Roaming Bear]
468
00:33:25,791 --> 00:33:29,625
[Conor starts playing Let
It Fall by Roaming Bear]
469
00:33:56,541 --> 00:33:58,708
Hell yeah, getting down!
470
00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:00,333
Conor: Thank you man.
471
00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:02,625
So what I'm saying in short,
472
00:34:02,666 --> 00:34:07,500
my pack and my guitar is
just way too much to bring.
473
00:34:07,541 --> 00:34:10,375
I think we should we
hitch, it'd be way safer.
474
00:34:10,416 --> 00:34:12,833
Mikey: You want to hitch
all the way to Seattle?
475
00:34:12,875 --> 00:34:14,875
Conor: Yeah, that's about as
far this from Denver here,
476
00:34:14,916 --> 00:34:18,916
just a little bit further.
477
00:34:18,958 --> 00:34:20,416
Nice to meet you.
478
00:34:20,458 --> 00:34:23,125
Guy in green cap: Nice to meet
you too dude, good luck man.
479
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:34,125
Conor: Hopefully we get a ride
quick, out of Salt Lake City.
480
00:34:34,166 --> 00:34:39,708
[bird chirping]
481
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:41,708
Mikey: We walked from the house.
482
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:45,125
Conor: Got one ride up
to Route 15 and 94 split
483
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,208
and then a cop came and
kicked us off the highway.
484
00:34:47,250 --> 00:34:49,291
Mikey: And he's like, you
should just hike up the hill
485
00:34:49,333 --> 00:34:52,041
right here and go up this
street right here and
486
00:34:52,083 --> 00:34:53,750
we're walking along
this bridge...
487
00:34:53,791 --> 00:34:55,875
Conor: And there's a train
slowing down right beneath it.
488
00:34:55,916 --> 00:34:57,833
Mikey: I got on the
front of it and Conor
489
00:34:57,875 --> 00:34:59,708
was trying to get
on the back of it.
490
00:34:59,750 --> 00:35:01,333
Conor: I was running with it
for a second, I tried to pull
491
00:35:01,375 --> 00:35:05,708
myself up and my foot totally
missed the bottom rung.
492
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:07,208
And I just went tumbling.
493
00:35:07,250 --> 00:35:10,375
Mikey: I jumped off, and it
fucking hurt real badly like...
494
00:35:10,416 --> 00:35:12,625
Conor: I thought he might've
gotten his leg chopped off
495
00:35:12,666 --> 00:35:13,916
or something because
it looked like
496
00:35:13,958 --> 00:35:15,416
he rolled down into the train.
497
00:35:15,458 --> 00:35:18,625
Mikey: I landed right by the
train and almost got fucking
498
00:35:18,666 --> 00:35:21,625
ran over by the train,
it was really scary.
499
00:35:21,666 --> 00:35:22,958
Conor: And then,
another train just
500
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,708
starts rolling up next to us.
501
00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,916
Mikey: We found one that
they call Cadillac grainer...
502
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,125
Conor: Which is like the best
kind of grainer you can hop on
503
00:35:29,166 --> 00:35:32,000
because it's got two
compartments on the porch
504
00:35:32,041 --> 00:35:34,875
where we can each have
like our own little space
505
00:35:34,916 --> 00:35:36,250
that we're completely hidden.
506
00:35:36,291 --> 00:35:38,250
Mikey: And then within
like maybe 20 minutes on it
507
00:35:38,291 --> 00:35:40,916
Conor: We started to see the
Salt Lake on both sides of us.
508
00:35:40,958 --> 00:35:43,500
Mikey: There's no road
that goes over it, there's
509
00:35:43,541 --> 00:35:47,291
train tracks but you're like
right in the middle of it.
510
00:35:47,333 --> 00:35:53,416
Conor: Great Salt Lake!
511
00:35:53,458 --> 00:35:58,000
Mikey: Hang on tight
man, hang on tight.
512
00:35:58,041 --> 00:36:02,375
The sun was setting, as
we were going over it,
513
00:36:02,416 --> 00:36:08,916
it was like...
514
00:36:08,958 --> 00:36:12,250
that I've seen in a long time.
515
00:36:12,291 --> 00:36:17,583
I don't remember, you
know, feeling that amazing.
516
00:36:17,625 --> 00:36:21,541
Tripping, or doing any other
drugs, or seeing anything,
517
00:36:21,583 --> 00:36:25,125
skating huge hills
or whatever like,
518
00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:30,333
I felt like so high and like...
519
00:36:30,375 --> 00:36:33,791
Words don't really
explain it you know.
520
00:36:33,833 --> 00:36:40,041
[Conor starts playing
Wasting Time by Roaming Bear]
521
00:36:40,041 --> 00:36:43,833
[Conor starts playing
Wasting Time by Roaming Bear]
522
00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:57,958
Conor: I eat nothing but fruit,
523
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,708
I feel like a goddamn hippie.
524
00:37:59,750 --> 00:38:01,083
Mikey: Uh-huh.
525
00:38:01,125 --> 00:38:04,333
Conor: Feel like
a granola muncher.
526
00:38:04,375 --> 00:38:05,750
Jamila: I have a pickup truck.
527
00:38:05,791 --> 00:38:07,041
It's got room in the back.
528
00:38:07,083 --> 00:38:11,916
It's actually got room
for two people, kind of.
529
00:38:11,958 --> 00:38:13,041
Conor: Awesome.
530
00:38:13,083 --> 00:38:14,750
Jamila: Ok, yeah
[unintelligible].
531
00:38:14,791 --> 00:38:25,708
Voiceover: Bye bye
and have safe travels.
532
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:28,750
Mikey: I don't like
being on a camera.
533
00:38:28,791 --> 00:38:30,250
Jamila: Yeah.
534
00:38:30,291 --> 00:38:31,875
Mikey: I'm used to it being
around now but like at first
535
00:38:31,916 --> 00:38:34,708
especially I was like
pretty nervous about it.
536
00:38:34,750 --> 00:38:38,583
Like of course I like to
travel but just being like
537
00:38:38,625 --> 00:38:41,791
a part of a movie or anything
like that was almost enough
538
00:38:41,833 --> 00:38:44,625
to make me say that I don't
want come and do this.
539
00:38:44,666 --> 00:38:46,958
Jamila: So the way that you
guys are traveling is just
540
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,666
by finding rides and
by freight trains or?
541
00:38:49,708 --> 00:38:52,416
Conor: Yeah, I call freight
trains the Anarchist Amtrack.
542
00:38:52,458 --> 00:38:55,541
Jamila: Yeah, I've
always wanted to do that.
543
00:38:55,583 --> 00:38:57,750
Never had the opportunity.
544
00:38:57,791 --> 00:39:01,083
Mikey: Every day there is
like so much happening.
545
00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:04,041
I'm so happy right now.
546
00:39:04,083 --> 00:39:05,708
Conor: My real name is Conor.
547
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:07,666
Jamila: So why do you
call yourself Bear?
548
00:39:07,708 --> 00:39:11,291
Conor: Uhm, well, initially
I had a huge fascination with
549
00:39:11,333 --> 00:39:14,500
Owsley Stanley, you know the
sound-man for the Grateful Dead
550
00:39:14,541 --> 00:39:15,958
they called him Bear.
551
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,833
It's kind of like out
of admiration for Owsley
552
00:39:19,875 --> 00:39:22,666
and then I was like in the
psych ward and I picked up
553
00:39:22,708 --> 00:39:26,083
a magazine and read
like this real awesome
554
00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:28,000
article on Owsley while I
was in there and I'm like,
555
00:39:28,041 --> 00:39:30,916
wow, Bear, like I
could see being a bear.
556
00:39:30,958 --> 00:39:33,500
[Conor laughs]
557
00:39:33,541 --> 00:39:35,416
Jamila: So what were you
in the psych ward for?
558
00:39:35,458 --> 00:39:37,041
Conor: Uhm, overdosing.
559
00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:38,125
[Conor laughs awkwardly]
560
00:39:38,166 --> 00:39:39,666
Jamila: Oh yeah, in what way?
561
00:39:39,708 --> 00:39:43,375
Conor: Uhm, Tylenol that's in
Vicodin and I took 200 Vicodin
562
00:39:43,416 --> 00:39:46,333
and it wasn't even the Vicodin
that got me, I didn't realize
563
00:39:46,375 --> 00:39:49,250
there was so much
Tylenol in Vicodin.
564
00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:51,708
Those people in the psych
ward are fucked up though.
565
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:54,208
Conor: I got shot up with
tranquilizers against my will
566
00:39:54,250 --> 00:39:56,791
twice to the point where they
just tackled me and pulled my
567
00:39:56,833 --> 00:40:00,166
pants down and shot me in
the butt with a tranquilizer.
568
00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:02,750
And you know why that happened?
569
00:40:02,791 --> 00:40:04,625
Because I was walking
around backwards singing
570
00:40:04,666 --> 00:40:06,208
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt.
571
00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:07,791
[everyone laughs]
572
00:40:07,833 --> 00:40:09,708
Jamila: I guess they
can't take a joke?
573
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:12,625
Conor: Yeah they
were not having it.
574
00:40:12,666 --> 00:40:14,958
And they like tackled
me and were like:
575
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,208
"You can either take this
medicine or we're going to give
576
00:40:17,250 --> 00:40:19,791
"you this medicine, I hope
you calm down mister Gerard."
577
00:40:19,833 --> 00:40:21,291
[Mikey laughs]
578
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:23,375
And I'm like I'm not going take
your drugs, like I'm in here
579
00:40:23,416 --> 00:40:26,250
for drugs and now you're
telling me to try and take drugs
580
00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:27,541
that are even better
than the drugs
581
00:40:27,583 --> 00:40:29,708
I was taking to get me in here.
582
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:31,500
Like this is pretty fucked up!
583
00:40:31,541 --> 00:40:35,208
But now I'm seven months
sober, from everything, so.
584
00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:49,208
Jamila: Congratulations.
585
00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:50,416
[knock on the door]
586
00:40:50,458 --> 00:40:53,583
[kids shouting]
587
00:40:53,625 --> 00:40:57,083
Val: Come on in.
588
00:40:57,125 --> 00:40:59,083
Conor: Hey you guys need
to meet my new friend Mike.
589
00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:01,625
That old friend Mike wasn't
as cool as this friend Mike.
590
00:41:01,666 --> 00:41:02,583
Emmie: Oh hi!
591
00:41:02,625 --> 00:41:03,333
Conor: This is the new Mike.
592
00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,041
Mikey: You're Ally?
593
00:41:04,083 --> 00:41:06,208
Ally: Yeah, hi.
594
00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:07,708
Val: We have extra pizza.
595
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:09,750
Conor: Awesome.
596
00:41:09,791 --> 00:41:12,250
Val: Guys have a seat and
make yourself at home.
597
00:41:12,291 --> 00:41:14,833
Val: [unintelligible],
who wants a fork?
598
00:41:14,875 --> 00:41:16,791
Emmie: I have a fork!
599
00:41:16,833 --> 00:41:19,833
Val: What stories of
adventure do you have for us?
600
00:41:19,875 --> 00:41:24,291
Conor: So many, we hopped a
train out Ogden, Utah yesterday.
601
00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:26,416
We we're going to
hitchhike up to Seattle...
602
00:41:26,458 --> 00:41:28,000
Val: That's what I thought
you were gonna go, Seattle.
603
00:41:28,041 --> 00:41:29,958
Conor: Yeah, but then we saw
the train and accidentally
604
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,625
ditched the camera
crew for like 48 hours.
605
00:41:32,666 --> 00:41:36,208
[Val laughs]
606
00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:40,000
Val: Well last time when Conor
got here, he had scabies.
607
00:41:40,041 --> 00:41:42,041
So he had to stay in the yard,
608
00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:45,416
we had a little
covered tarp area.
609
00:41:45,458 --> 00:41:46,625
[Conor laughs]
610
00:41:46,666 --> 00:41:48,750
The last time when they
got here, it was in
611
00:41:48,791 --> 00:41:51,208
the middle of the night or
something because it was so...
612
00:41:51,250 --> 00:41:52,958
Conor: Yeah, it was
like three AM...
613
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,625
Val: And Emmie woke us up and
said: "There's two homeless
614
00:41:56,666 --> 00:41:58,166
"guys sleeping in the back yard
615
00:41:58,208 --> 00:41:59,958
"and one of them
looks like Conor."
616
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,333
[Val laughs]
617
00:42:01,375 --> 00:42:04,458
It is Conor!
618
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:05,958
Ally: Hello!
619
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,916
Emmie: Hello!
620
00:42:06,958 --> 00:42:08,125
Ally: Knock-knock.
621
00:42:08,166 --> 00:42:10,166
Emmie: Knock-knock.
622
00:42:10,208 --> 00:42:10,958
Ally: Aarrrrgh!
623
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,166
Emmie: Aarrrrgh!
624
00:42:12,208 --> 00:42:13,666
[Ally and Emmie babble
in the background]
625
00:42:13,708 --> 00:42:16,500
Val: Oh they just
love having company.
626
00:42:16,541 --> 00:42:18,750
Are you willing to do
some swimming with them?
627
00:42:18,791 --> 00:42:19,916
Conor: Oh yeah.
628
00:42:19,958 --> 00:42:21,333
Val: Oh good because
it is a school night
629
00:42:21,375 --> 00:42:23,000
so I have to get them
into bed by around eight.
630
00:42:23,041 --> 00:42:26,500
Conor: As soon as I finish
this, I'd love to go swimming.
631
00:42:26,541 --> 00:42:28,166
Val: Uhm you guys, do you
want to put on your swimsuits?
632
00:42:28,208 --> 00:42:29,625
Because Conor said he
would go swimming with you.
633
00:42:29,666 --> 00:42:30,958
Conor: I'm going to
put on my swimsuit.
634
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,333
Emmie: YES!
635
00:42:32,375 --> 00:42:33,708
Val: Ally if you're
going to swim, you got to
636
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:42,250
get your swimsuit on now
because it's a school night.
637
00:42:42,291 --> 00:42:44,291
[Conor makes
anticipating sounds]
638
00:42:44,333 --> 00:42:46,375
[Emmie and Ally
playfully scream]
639
00:42:46,416 --> 00:42:55,083
[Conor screams]
640
00:42:55,125 --> 00:42:59,208
Val: As much as he's on
the road he's a family guy.
641
00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:00,833
[Emmie chokes]
642
00:43:00,875 --> 00:43:01,583
Conor: Are you alright?
643
00:43:01,625 --> 00:43:03,125
Emmie: Yes.
644
00:43:03,166 --> 00:43:04,375
Conor: You're not
supposed to drink it.
645
00:43:04,416 --> 00:43:05,083
You're supposed to hold
your breath under water.
646
00:43:05,125 --> 00:43:06,583
Emmie: I know.
647
00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:08,000
Conor: Those goggles don't work
when they are full of water.
648
00:43:08,041 --> 00:43:10,708
Val: Both Ally and Emmie
had [unintelligible] so
649
00:43:10,750 --> 00:43:12,875
neither of them were
supposed to live.
650
00:43:12,916 --> 00:43:16,875
Emmie was on oxygen
until she was two.
651
00:43:16,916 --> 00:43:19,208
She couldn't even
hold her head up
652
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:21,541
really until she was three.
653
00:43:21,583 --> 00:43:25,625
She didn't start talking
until she was four and
654
00:43:25,666 --> 00:43:29,708
Emmie also has developmental
issues and so it's hard
655
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:33,208
being a mom and trying to
figure out Emmie's going to fare
656
00:43:33,250 --> 00:43:37,166
when she's an adult and we're
not there to take care of her
657
00:43:37,208 --> 00:43:42,458
but the one sort of grounding
point that I have is that
658
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,666
Conor has told me since the
day they were born, you know,
659
00:43:45,708 --> 00:43:48,791
that I don't need to worry and
that he's going to be there
660
00:43:48,833 --> 00:43:55,291
for them and, so Conor's my guy.
661
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:56,875
Ally: Aah!
662
00:43:56,916 --> 00:44:00,125
Val: Your eyeballs are like
stuck to it, I heard suction.
663
00:44:00,166 --> 00:44:01,000
Ally: Really, you heard-
664
00:44:01,041 --> 00:44:02,583
My eyeballs are stuck to it?
665
00:44:02,625 --> 00:44:04,708
Val: Yes, I bet they are stuck
to the inside of the glass.
666
00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:05,958
Oh my god, they are!
667
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,791
Ally: Really?
668
00:44:06,833 --> 00:44:08,166
Val: [laughingly] No.
669
00:44:08,208 --> 00:44:09,750
Ally: Are those fake eyeballs?
670
00:44:09,791 --> 00:44:11,166
Emmie: No.
671
00:44:11,208 --> 00:44:20,958
Val: Go on in, dad is going
to bring you your meds ok?
672
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,375
Jamila: It was nice meeting you.
673
00:44:22,416 --> 00:44:23,875
Conor: Nice to meet you,
thanks for the ride.
674
00:44:23,916 --> 00:44:26,750
It was awesome talking.
675
00:44:26,791 --> 00:44:28,541
Heya, I want a hug from you too.
676
00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,500
Mikey: Ok.
677
00:44:30,541 --> 00:44:33,875
Good night, thank you so much.
678
00:44:33,916 --> 00:44:47,333
[birds chirping]
679
00:44:47,375 --> 00:44:50,583
Voiceover: He has
weird earrings!
680
00:44:50,625 --> 00:44:51,916
Conor: These kids picked
on me when I went here and
681
00:44:51,958 --> 00:44:53,541
they're picking on me even now.
682
00:44:53,583 --> 00:44:55,875
[Unintelligible].
683
00:44:55,916 --> 00:45:04,375
[Unintelligible].
684
00:45:04,416 --> 00:45:10,333
[birds chirping]
685
00:45:10,375 --> 00:45:14,375
Mikey: Two years ago, I
learned that there's this place
686
00:45:14,416 --> 00:45:21,375
like in my mind kind of
like my idea of paradise.
687
00:45:21,416 --> 00:45:23,291
Olympic National Park.
688
00:45:23,333 --> 00:45:29,166
That, there's a rain
forest in our country.
689
00:45:29,208 --> 00:45:32,666
Well, what I'm trying to
say is like I think it's
690
00:45:32,708 --> 00:45:34,666
supposed to happen that, you
know, that we're you know
691
00:45:34,708 --> 00:45:38,708
supposed to all go see this
incredibly beautiful place.
692
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:40,833
Conor: And you're on Route
99, which is like the most
693
00:45:40,875 --> 00:45:43,708
beautiful road to
take across the five.
694
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:48,500
Mikey: Right on.
695
00:45:48,541 --> 00:45:50,041
Conor: We'll probably stay
in San Francisco today
696
00:45:50,083 --> 00:45:55,208
and tonight so Mikey
can skate and stuff.
697
00:45:55,250 --> 00:46:09,750
[guitar plays]
698
00:46:09,791 --> 00:46:16,625
Conor: GAAAAAAH!
699
00:46:16,666 --> 00:46:29,333
Whoooo!
700
00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:33,208
Mikey: I'm ready to go man!
701
00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:45,833
[metro in motion]
702
00:46:45,875 --> 00:46:49,208
Mikey: Oooh...
703
00:46:49,250 --> 00:47:03,000
[various cars honk]
704
00:47:03,041 --> 00:47:05,666
[cello music]
705
00:47:05,708 --> 00:47:10,916
Mikey: I don't know but right
now I'm kind of feeling like,
706
00:47:10,958 --> 00:47:14,291
there's like no
way out, you know.
707
00:47:14,333 --> 00:47:20,000
Like I don't want to go back
and work my job and be doing
708
00:47:20,041 --> 00:47:25,375
the same thing, living in the
town where I was living in.
709
00:47:25,416 --> 00:47:34,833
Like that's, that's not
good either, but being a bum
710
00:47:34,875 --> 00:47:39,625
that obviously sucks too.
711
00:47:39,666 --> 00:47:44,875
I don't know it's just...
712
00:47:44,916 --> 00:47:48,458
I like to think that
there's an in-between,
713
00:47:48,500 --> 00:48:01,541
where there can be like a
nice community of people.
714
00:48:01,583 --> 00:48:04,375
This is like where it gets real.
715
00:48:04,416 --> 00:48:06,000
Actually like, what
are you going to do
716
00:48:06,041 --> 00:48:09,166
when you're on the streets
717
00:48:09,208 --> 00:48:15,250
Instead of like, oh we have,
you know, two kids that
718
00:48:15,291 --> 00:48:17,958
are just like hitchhiking around
719
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:27,541
seeing beautiful things
everyday, you know.
720
00:48:27,583 --> 00:48:28,750
Storekeeper: They
should be able to
721
00:48:28,791 --> 00:48:30,666
heat that up for you
next door, is that ok?
722
00:48:30,708 --> 00:48:32,333
Mikey: Like down there?
723
00:48:32,375 --> 00:48:33,708
Storekeeper: Yes.
724
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:36,166
Mikey: Ok, alright.
725
00:48:36,208 --> 00:48:39,333
Storekeeper: Thank you,
do you want a receipt?
726
00:48:39,375 --> 00:48:42,041
Mikey: No, that's ok.
727
00:48:42,083 --> 00:48:52,125
[cars driving speedily]
728
00:48:52,125 --> 00:49:05,666
[cars driving speedily]
729
00:49:05,708 --> 00:49:12,333
[phone ringing]
730
00:49:12,375 --> 00:49:13,750
[Ron]: Hello?
731
00:49:13,791 --> 00:49:16,291
Mikey: Hey man,
it's Mikey again.
732
00:49:16,333 --> 00:49:18,791
[Ron]: [Unintelligible].
733
00:49:18,833 --> 00:49:20,791
Mikey: We're at the lookout
point, and we're just chilling
734
00:49:20,833 --> 00:49:27,541
at the bathrooms right now,
just figuring everything out.
735
00:49:27,583 --> 00:49:28,750
[Ron]: Yeah, it's all good,
736
00:49:28,791 --> 00:49:30,916
I mean we're going
to be smoking pot.
737
00:49:30,958 --> 00:49:35,416
Mikey: Alright, well we
can't really do that but...
738
00:49:35,458 --> 00:49:37,625
[Ron]: You still
smoke pot, right?
739
00:49:37,666 --> 00:49:44,458
Mikey: [laughingly] No, we're
like doing this soberly...
740
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,125
[Ron]: Whatever,
[unintelligible].
741
00:49:46,166 --> 00:49:49,333
I'll see you guys, in like
45 minutes to an hour.
742
00:49:49,375 --> 00:49:55,708
Mikey: Alright,
yeah, we'll call you.
743
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:59,291
Mikey: Yeah, we left
on Monday of last week.
744
00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:03,541
Ron: And that was your intent,
it was to just hitchhike
745
00:50:03,583 --> 00:50:04,291
across country, just-
746
00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:05,666
Mikey: Yeah.
747
00:50:05,708 --> 00:50:08,166
Ron: Put a thumb out,
and see what you can get?
748
00:50:08,208 --> 00:50:10,000
A road-scholarship is
what you're getting.
749
00:50:10,041 --> 00:50:11,208
[Ron laughs]
750
00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:14,333
You're a road scholar,
in my opinion.
751
00:50:14,375 --> 00:50:16,916
You're much more brave
than I could ever be.
752
00:50:16,958 --> 00:50:18,666
I mean, I love my
creature comforts...
753
00:50:18,708 --> 00:50:19,666
Mikey: Yeah.
754
00:50:19,708 --> 00:50:22,125
Ron: I love my bed-
755
00:50:22,166 --> 00:50:22,875
Ron: I love my television-
756
00:50:22,916 --> 00:50:23,666
Mikey: Yeah, I do too.
757
00:50:23,708 --> 00:50:27,750
Ron: I love my car.
758
00:50:27,791 --> 00:50:29,958
Mike: I also don't
get like, fuck it,
759
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,833
I'm pushing it all away,
like I just want to like,
760
00:50:33,875 --> 00:50:38,166
hang from trees with a loincloth
on and reject everything.
761
00:50:38,208 --> 00:50:39,541
Do you know what I mean?
762
00:50:39,583 --> 00:50:42,208
Mikey: I have a job,
you know, back at home.
763
00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:50,166
I could abandon it and
just stay up eating trash.
764
00:50:50,208 --> 00:50:53,583
Ron: Millions of people in
this world, in this country,
765
00:50:53,625 --> 00:50:56,166
do that on a daily basis
and they worry about
766
00:50:56,208 --> 00:50:59,250
where there next
meal is coming from.
767
00:50:59,291 --> 00:51:01,041
I go to the city all the time,
768
00:51:01,083 --> 00:51:02,708
I keep a pocket full of change,
769
00:51:02,750 --> 00:51:04,708
and the first person
to ask me for money,
770
00:51:04,750 --> 00:51:08,208
I give him my whole
pocket, that's yours.
771
00:51:08,250 --> 00:51:12,375
Anybody that asks me
after, doesn't get shit.
772
00:51:12,416 --> 00:51:15,208
Mike: No way man, they got
to perform a service for me.
773
00:51:15,250 --> 00:51:16,666
Ron: Fucking Hacky Sack.
774
00:51:16,708 --> 00:51:18,041
Mike: If it makes me laugh, if
you can do anything in front
775
00:51:18,083 --> 00:51:21,041
of me and I'm like, oh
yeah ok, or it's just like
776
00:51:21,083 --> 00:51:24,791
oh, I'm sitting on my
ass like give me change.
777
00:51:24,833 --> 00:51:28,041
It's like come on man,
where's the sales pitch?
778
00:51:28,083 --> 00:51:33,541
Come on, give me something
to work with, you know!
779
00:51:33,583 --> 00:51:34,875
Ron: Give me a stone
so I can go to sleep.
780
00:51:34,916 --> 00:51:37,708
I got to go work for
the man tomorrow.
781
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:39,208
Mike: [That's what
I don't know.]
782
00:51:39,250 --> 00:51:40,208
[Ron laughs]
783
00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:43,583
Ron: That old mighty dollar.
784
00:51:43,625 --> 00:51:48,625
[lighter]
785
00:51:48,666 --> 00:51:51,458
Mikey: If we are in a
documentary we might as well
786
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:54,750
be realistic about it, like
ok, I accepted to be in
787
00:51:54,791 --> 00:51:58,416
a documentary, like, what's
it all about, why did I
788
00:51:58,458 --> 00:52:03,375
strangely, maybe sort like of
reluctantly agreed to do this?
789
00:52:03,416 --> 00:52:07,875
Well I have something
to say also.
790
00:52:07,916 --> 00:52:11,416
And all this analysis
of things just like,
791
00:52:11,458 --> 00:52:14,750
it needs to end, at least
for me to have peace of mind,
792
00:52:14,791 --> 00:52:18,000
you know, because like
you guys said like,
793
00:52:18,041 --> 00:52:19,750
do you want us to stop?
794
00:52:19,791 --> 00:52:26,958
Like kind of like yeah, you
know I don't want this, clearly.
795
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,958
And most people don't want
that at all, that stress and
796
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:41,041
that intense like examination
from other people.
797
00:52:41,041 --> 00:52:46,416
that intense like examination
from other people.
798
00:52:46,458 --> 00:52:52,083
[metal music]
799
00:52:52,125 --> 00:52:54,791
[Isaac is drowned
out by the music]
800
00:52:54,833 --> 00:52:56,041
Mikey: [Unintelligible].
801
00:52:56,083 --> 00:52:57,833
Isaac: Hey, hey, you
guys want to hit this?
802
00:52:57,875 --> 00:52:59,208
Mikey and Conor: No, no!
803
00:52:59,250 --> 00:53:04,041
Isaac: [Unintelligible].
804
00:53:04,083 --> 00:53:05,333
Conor: I'm sorry man.
805
00:53:05,375 --> 00:53:07,125
Isaac: [You never ask somebody].
806
00:53:07,166 --> 00:53:08,916
[everyone laughs]
807
00:53:08,958 --> 00:53:19,000
[Isaac turns the metal
music even louder]
808
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:25,333
[Isaac turns the metal
music even louder]
809
00:53:25,375 --> 00:53:34,125
[[Mikey] shouts something
at the other car]
810
00:53:34,166 --> 00:53:36,166
Conor: Oh that's cool,
thanks a lot brother.
811
00:53:36,208 --> 00:53:38,958
Isaac: Happy doing
it man, safe trips!
812
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:39,708
Conor: Thank you man
813
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:42,083
Mikey: Thanks a lot man!
814
00:53:42,125 --> 00:53:43,500
Bina: First [year]
that I'm trying to do.
815
00:53:43,541 --> 00:53:44,708
It actually is my first
time on the West Coast ever.
816
00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:45,666
Conor: Oh fuck yeah.
817
00:53:45,708 --> 00:53:46,583
Bina: Yeah.
818
00:53:46,625 --> 00:53:47,833
Conor: Where are you guys from?
819
00:53:47,875 --> 00:53:49,583
Bina: I'm from State
College, Pennsylvania,
820
00:53:49,625 --> 00:53:51,375
like right in the middle
and he's from Delaware.
821
00:53:51,416 --> 00:53:52,750
Sam: Yeah.
822
00:53:52,791 --> 00:53:54,416
Bina: Do you guys
want to burn one?
823
00:53:54,458 --> 00:53:57,291
We have some, and we were
just about to smoke probably
824
00:53:57,333 --> 00:53:59,708
and give our hitchhiking for
the day, it's getting dark.
825
00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:03,875
Conor: I'm personally good, I'm
not smoking right now but...
826
00:54:03,916 --> 00:54:05,041
Yeah, I'm good for now.
827
00:54:05,083 --> 00:54:06,375
Bina: That's alright.
828
00:54:06,416 --> 00:54:08,208
Sam: That's a sweet bag dude.
829
00:54:08,250 --> 00:54:10,458
Conor: Thank you, I found
this puppy up in the [U P].
830
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:12,875
Sam: It's awesome,
that's super cool.
831
00:54:12,916 --> 00:54:14,583
Conor: You guys are going
to give up hitchhiking?
832
00:54:14,625 --> 00:54:16,000
Sam: We should.
833
00:54:16,041 --> 00:54:17,208
Bina: Yeah we got pretty
much nothing but time to go
834
00:54:17,250 --> 00:54:19,208
where we are going.
835
00:54:19,250 --> 00:54:21,166
I'm trying to get up
to Humboldt county.
836
00:54:21,208 --> 00:54:23,333
Mikey: Are we on the 101?
837
00:54:23,375 --> 00:54:26,041
Bina: No, the 101
is right up there.
838
00:54:26,083 --> 00:54:36,125
[cars driving past]
839
00:54:36,125 --> 00:54:42,416
[cars driving past]
840
00:54:42,458 --> 00:54:46,416
Conor: How about right
here, right down under here?
841
00:54:46,458 --> 00:54:47,708
Mikey: Just right here?
842
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:51,250
Conor: Yeah, it's not
too [unintelligible].
843
00:54:51,291 --> 00:54:52,583
Are these berries?
844
00:54:52,625 --> 00:54:56,000
Oh hell yeah, there's
a lot over here.
845
00:54:56,041 --> 00:54:57,625
These berries are everywhere.
846
00:54:57,666 --> 00:54:59,375
Mikey: Oh these are
some good ones dude.
847
00:54:59,416 --> 00:55:01,750
Conor: Ah, garbage and berries,
848
00:55:01,791 --> 00:55:03,916
garbage and berries for dinner.
849
00:55:03,958 --> 00:55:06,666
Garbage and berries
for breakfast.
850
00:55:06,708 --> 00:55:10,125
Life doesn't get much better
than garbage and berries.
851
00:55:10,166 --> 00:55:17,875
[plane flies over]
852
00:55:17,916 --> 00:55:20,125
You want some corn Mikey?
853
00:55:20,166 --> 00:55:22,791
I've got an orange.
854
00:55:22,833 --> 00:55:26,625
You like the oranges, Mikey?
855
00:55:26,666 --> 00:55:28,291
[Mikey mumbles]
856
00:55:28,333 --> 00:55:29,958
Conor: You like the oranges?
857
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,791
Mikey: [muttering]
Ah yeah, ohhhh.
858
00:55:31,833 --> 00:55:33,416
[Conor laughs]
859
00:55:33,458 --> 00:55:38,291
Conor: I bet they imported
this corn from Illinois.
860
00:55:38,333 --> 00:55:39,875
How much money do
you have Mikey?
861
00:55:39,916 --> 00:55:41,833
Mikey: 20 dollars.
862
00:55:41,875 --> 00:55:45,916
Conor: You're going to need
like all that money for...
863
00:55:45,958 --> 00:55:47,208
Transportation fees.
864
00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:49,750
[Mikey laughs]
865
00:55:49,791 --> 00:55:50,916
Mikey: Really?
866
00:55:50,958 --> 00:55:52,333
Conor: Yeah.
867
00:55:52,375 --> 00:55:54,708
Mikey: I'm taking the bus,
that's seven dollars right?
868
00:55:54,750 --> 00:55:57,291
Conor: About that, and then
we got to take a ferry.
869
00:55:57,333 --> 00:56:03,083
[guitar playing]
870
00:56:03,125 --> 00:56:05,166
Mikey: There's like little
tiny chunks of hemp seed
871
00:56:05,208 --> 00:56:12,625
from being in that bag though.
872
00:56:12,666 --> 00:56:15,833
Smells like pineapple.
873
00:56:15,875 --> 00:56:17,000
I think that was what it was.
874
00:56:17,041 --> 00:56:19,000
Conor: That is not good.
875
00:56:19,041 --> 00:56:22,083
Tastes rotten.
876
00:56:22,125 --> 00:56:23,666
All day I've been
struggling with,
877
00:56:23,708 --> 00:56:25,208
[harmonica is being played]
878
00:56:25,250 --> 00:56:29,708
whether or not, or if I could
possibly justify smoking weed.
879
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:31,708
My problem is with alcohol,
it's not with weed.
880
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:34,375
It's just a matter of that
will lead to me somehow
881
00:56:34,416 --> 00:56:38,708
rationalizing doing other
drugs and drinking again.
882
00:56:38,750 --> 00:56:41,416
I can already see like how this
would all unfold in my head,
883
00:56:41,458 --> 00:56:46,708
all the rationalization
processes and...
884
00:56:46,750 --> 00:56:50,250
Mikey: I don't
drink at all like...
885
00:56:50,291 --> 00:56:58,041
I usually [light one up],
I like to do it so...
886
00:56:58,083 --> 00:57:00,208
I kind of forgot what I was
trying to make a point about
887
00:57:00,250 --> 00:57:05,625
earlier but, oh yeah, uhm...
888
00:57:05,666 --> 00:57:11,541
[car in motion]
889
00:57:11,583 --> 00:57:13,833
Conor: You know certain
people can smoke weed
890
00:57:13,875 --> 00:57:16,958
and they go throughout their
day in a normal fashion.
891
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:24,500
Some people, get
high and go to Mars.
892
00:57:24,541 --> 00:57:30,125
[birds faintly chirping]
893
00:57:30,125 --> 00:57:34,541
[birds faintly chirping]
894
00:57:54,958 --> 00:57:56,791
I'm glad these
people picked us up.
895
00:57:56,833 --> 00:58:00,125
[Conor yawns]
896
00:58:00,166 --> 00:58:02,083
[engine starting]
897
00:58:02,125 --> 00:58:13,125
[car doors close
one after another]
898
00:58:13,166 --> 00:58:14,500
[radio is playing]
899
00:58:14,541 --> 00:58:17,250
Zach: We're driving through
Laytonville, California.
900
00:58:17,291 --> 00:58:20,208
It looked like they were singing
and playing the harmonica
901
00:58:20,250 --> 00:58:25,416
which made them a little bit
more appealing and actually I
902
00:58:25,458 --> 00:58:27,916
thought their bright colors
that they were wearing too also
903
00:58:27,958 --> 00:58:31,041
made it pretty obvious that
they were friendly folks.
904
00:58:31,083 --> 00:58:32,958
Monica: Yeah.
905
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,625
Zach: Mike seems like
he's having his mind
906
00:58:35,666 --> 00:58:37,750
pried open pretty dramatically.
907
00:58:37,791 --> 00:58:39,375
You know, it's hard living.
908
00:58:39,416 --> 00:58:42,166
Monica: Yeah
909
00:58:42,208 --> 00:58:44,583
you're spending a lot of
time on sleeping next to
910
00:58:44,625 --> 00:58:48,500
railroad tracks or whatever
and I can definitely understand
911
00:58:48,541 --> 00:58:51,250
the interest in taking
the edge off a little bit.
912
00:58:51,291 --> 00:58:52,875
Bear stayed sober-
913
00:58:52,916 --> 00:58:54,416
Monica: Yeah Bear stayed sober.
914
00:58:54,458 --> 00:58:55,833
Zach: But we gave them a
[nudge] thinking they both
915
00:58:55,875 --> 00:58:57,708
wanted it and Mikey enjoyed it.
916
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:59,333
[Zach and Monica laugh]
917
00:58:59,375 --> 00:59:01,000
Monica: Yeah.
918
00:59:01,041 --> 00:59:02,750
Zach: It's funny, there was a
shift too in the conversation
919
00:59:02,791 --> 00:59:05,916
when that happened, a
little bit of disconnect
920
00:59:05,958 --> 00:59:09,125
as far as our communication
with Mikey afterwards.
921
00:59:09,166 --> 00:59:10,791
Ganja makes you
really self-conscious.
922
00:59:10,833 --> 00:59:13,333
Monica: Yeah, and I
think that's probably
923
00:59:13,375 --> 00:59:14,750
where it's stemming from.
924
00:59:14,791 --> 00:59:16,791
Zach: A little bit and
if they're going to do it
925
00:59:16,833 --> 00:59:19,125
it's probably better [herb]
or something else than
926
00:59:19,166 --> 00:59:22,291
alcohol, you know, because
that's just going to send them
927
00:59:22,333 --> 00:59:25,875
tripping a downwards spiral
and you see people who
928
00:59:25,916 --> 00:59:28,625
live this lifestyle that
have taken that road and
929
00:59:28,666 --> 00:59:32,166
they're not shining as
bright as these two guys are.
930
00:59:32,208 --> 00:59:42,541
[reggae music starts playing]
931
00:59:42,583 --> 00:59:53,208
[reggae singer
sings to the music]
932
00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:58,791
[chafing and filing]
933
00:59:58,833 --> 00:59:59,791
[car door closes]
934
00:59:59,833 --> 01:00:05,833
Conor: Looking for [ganja]?
935
01:00:05,875 --> 01:00:15,916
[Conor snickers]
936
01:00:15,916 --> 01:00:23,916
[Conor snickers]
937
01:00:23,958 --> 01:00:26,750
Mikey: I'm not going to get a
ride with this guy, you know,
938
01:00:26,791 --> 01:00:28,208
I'll try to go somewhere else
939
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:36,291
probably with some
different people.
940
01:00:36,333 --> 01:00:40,708
I have something like urgent
that I need to tell you.
941
01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:45,875
I'm in a place where I,
like, meet good people and
942
01:00:45,916 --> 01:00:52,458
I like what's going on but
I don't feel right about why
943
01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:56,125
I'm there you know, do
you know what I mean?
944
01:00:56,166 --> 01:00:58,125
When I get picked up by someone
I don't want to tell them
945
01:00:58,166 --> 01:01:02,500
like hitchhiking, I don't
want to tell them like oh yeah
946
01:01:02,541 --> 01:01:04,791
this is what I'm doing, there's
some people following me
947
01:01:04,833 --> 01:01:06,916
right now like, if I don't
want to tell them that that's
948
01:01:06,958 --> 01:01:09,125
what I'm doing then why should
I keep doing it and going
949
01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:11,291
along with it, you know?
950
01:01:11,333 --> 01:01:14,291
Like it's clear to me that
this is not what I should
951
01:01:14,333 --> 01:01:19,208
be doing because it feels
funny and really strange.
952
01:01:19,250 --> 01:01:21,708
I realize that I made
a decision that I
953
01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:31,833
didn't fully understand,
wasn't really sure of.
954
01:01:31,875 --> 01:01:34,291
Arcata.
955
01:01:34,333 --> 01:01:36,833
What I'm really feeling is
that I don't feel comfortable
956
01:01:36,875 --> 01:01:40,250
being in this situation that
I'm in and I have the ability
957
01:01:40,291 --> 01:01:42,791
to change it for the better and
958
01:01:42,833 --> 01:01:44,333
so that's what I'm going to do.
959
01:01:44,375 --> 01:01:46,625
No, I don't need to think
about it anymore, like I said
960
01:01:46,666 --> 01:01:49,583
I realize what is going on
and that I don't want to
961
01:01:49,625 --> 01:01:53,125
have this continue to go, so.
962
01:01:53,166 --> 01:01:56,333
That's why I'm
trying to leave here.
963
01:01:56,375 --> 01:02:02,666
I don't want to stay here
but I'm going to leave here.
964
01:02:02,708 --> 01:02:12,750
Look it's these
guys, Sam and Bina.
965
01:02:12,750 --> 01:02:18,041
Look it's these
guys, Sam and Bina.
966
01:02:18,083 --> 01:02:20,416
Conor: Mikey decided that
he's done with all of this,
967
01:02:20,458 --> 01:02:23,041
he doesn't want to be
photographed or anything anymore
968
01:02:23,083 --> 01:02:24,708
so he's just going home.
969
01:02:24,750 --> 01:02:26,083
Bina: Where is his home?
970
01:02:26,125 --> 01:02:27,541
[dog barking]
971
01:02:27,583 --> 01:02:37,625
Conor: [In Chicago], around
there, suburbs of Chicago.
972
01:02:37,625 --> 01:02:45,041
Conor: [In Chicago], around
there, suburbs of Chicago.
973
01:02:45,083 --> 01:02:48,166
Mikey, did you brush
your teeth today?
974
01:02:48,208 --> 01:02:49,375
Mikey: No.
975
01:02:49,416 --> 01:02:51,083
Conor: After you
were eating plenty,
976
01:02:51,125 --> 01:02:52,500
you didn't brush
your teeth today?
977
01:02:52,541 --> 01:02:54,125
Mikey: No way.
978
01:02:54,166 --> 01:02:57,666
Conor: Mikey!
979
01:02:57,708 --> 01:02:59,916
Didn't even know this place
is [cool], I'm fucking glad
980
01:02:59,958 --> 01:03:03,750
it is our last night in Arcata.
981
01:03:03,791 --> 01:03:06,833
I was over Arcata right
when we got dropped off.
982
01:03:06,875 --> 01:03:10,208
[sleeping bag zipper]
983
01:03:10,250 --> 01:03:14,000
Right when I saw that field
full of hippies and reggae music
984
01:03:14,041 --> 01:03:20,750
I was done with it.
985
01:03:20,791 --> 01:03:26,625
[birds chirping]
986
01:03:26,666 --> 01:03:35,625
[telephone rings]
987
01:03:35,666 --> 01:03:42,166
Fuck it's cold!
988
01:03:42,208 --> 01:03:51,625
Conor: [Fuck yonder].
989
01:03:51,666 --> 01:03:54,666
Voiceover: [Unintelligible].
990
01:03:54,708 --> 01:03:59,166
Mikey: I mean, it's me that's
letting it get to me but,
991
01:03:59,208 --> 01:04:02,291
it just feels like
that's not what I would
992
01:04:02,333 --> 01:04:04,958
normally want to
do with my life.
993
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:11,125
And I feel fake, or I'm not
here for the right reasons.
994
01:04:11,166 --> 01:04:13,708
And I've just gotten more
uncomfortable with it,
995
01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:17,333
the more that I've
been around it.
996
01:04:17,375 --> 01:04:21,041
It's kind of helped me
like wake up and realize,
997
01:04:21,083 --> 01:04:23,208
I don't have it so bad.
998
01:04:23,250 --> 01:04:31,666
I don't know, I really don't
know what the answer is.
999
01:04:31,708 --> 01:04:33,166
Thank you.
1000
01:04:33,208 --> 01:04:36,125
Mikey: Yeah, thank you
so much man, good luck.
1001
01:04:36,166 --> 01:04:39,333
Conor: Thanks.
1002
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:43,166
Mikey: Hope it gets better,
and better, and better.
1003
01:04:43,208 --> 01:04:51,208
Hello.
1004
01:04:51,250 --> 01:04:57,250
Conor: I guess I should say
something special here but
1005
01:04:57,291 --> 01:05:01,458
I'm just going to start
walking north instead.
1006
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:12,416
[cars driving past]
1007
01:05:12,458 --> 01:05:25,666
It's ok.
1008
01:05:25,708 --> 01:05:33,083
Look at this thing.
1009
01:05:33,125 --> 01:05:46,166
Maybe he'll be my new road dog.
1010
01:05:46,208 --> 01:05:49,416
Bald driver: They drill
for oil fields back there,
1011
01:05:49,458 --> 01:05:54,583
they took all the big ones
and the easy ones first.
1012
01:05:54,625 --> 01:05:56,958
Conor: At first it was
awesome travelling with Mike,
1013
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,708
nice to have someone to
bullshit with on the on-ramp,
1014
01:05:59,750 --> 01:06:02,666
when there's nothing
to do or say.
1015
01:06:02,708 --> 01:06:07,708
Someone to just joke around
with, but it's easier to travel
1016
01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:10,416
on my onesome than with Mike.
1017
01:06:10,458 --> 01:06:22,583
[cars driving past]
1018
01:06:22,625 --> 01:06:24,791
Right now I'm running
to some solitude,
1019
01:06:24,833 --> 01:06:35,250
some creative time,
some serious woods time.
1020
01:06:35,291 --> 01:06:45,333
[ferry in motion]
1021
01:06:45,333 --> 01:06:51,291
[ferry in motion]
1022
01:06:51,333 --> 01:06:54,250
[birds chirping]
1023
01:06:54,291 --> 01:06:56,875
Dan: We went into the rain
forest a couple of times...
1024
01:06:56,916 --> 01:06:58,666
Conor: You've been
to all of this today?
1025
01:06:58,708 --> 01:07:00,041
Dan: No no no it's-
1026
01:07:00,083 --> 01:07:01,208
Conor: Oh you just
got here today?
1027
01:07:01,250 --> 01:07:02,291
Dan and Nancy: Yes.
1028
01:07:02,333 --> 01:07:03,791
Conor: Gotcha.
1029
01:07:03,833 --> 01:07:06,250
Dan: Now it's been about six
weeks so far for us doing this.
1030
01:07:06,291 --> 01:07:08,000
Conor: So you're doing
this the right way.
1031
01:07:08,041 --> 01:07:11,166
Dan: We think so, we take
about five months every year
1032
01:07:11,208 --> 01:07:14,833
and go traveling.
1033
01:07:14,875 --> 01:07:18,416
We've camped in a couple
ghost towns at night,
1034
01:07:18,458 --> 01:07:22,000
just us and the ghosts
and nothing else around.
1035
01:07:22,041 --> 01:07:23,125
That's cool.
1036
01:07:23,166 --> 01:07:24,541
[Dan laughs enthusiastically]
1037
01:07:24,583 --> 01:07:28,291
Conor: You we'd be sitting,
hitchhiking, just laughing
1038
01:07:28,333 --> 01:07:31,958
telling jokes, telling stories,
that was the first week.
1039
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,375
And then the second week
we'd be hitchhiking and Mikey
1040
01:07:35,416 --> 01:07:37,791
would be trying to
wrap up the whole world
1041
01:07:37,833 --> 01:07:40,708
into one perfect little bundle
which is an impossible task
1042
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:43,875
and it just never worked.
1043
01:07:43,916 --> 01:07:47,041
There's definitely a
lot of things I, like,
1044
01:07:47,083 --> 01:07:49,875
wanted to say to Mike that I
didn't say and want to take
1045
01:07:49,916 --> 01:07:54,291
the role of telling him
what's right and wrong.
1046
01:07:54,333 --> 01:07:56,041
I wanted him to figure
that out for himself but
1047
01:07:56,083 --> 01:07:57,666
the whole time I was
traveling with him there was
1048
01:07:57,708 --> 01:08:02,791
definitely a lot I felt like
I should tell him, you know.
1049
01:08:02,833 --> 01:08:08,833
Check it out Mikey, I made it
to the Olympic National Park.
1050
01:08:08,875 --> 01:08:13,041
I'm going to fuck off from
these guys for a little while.
1051
01:08:13,083 --> 01:08:19,625
Go on my own walk to
talk to you, Mikey.
1052
01:08:19,666 --> 01:08:22,333
Because apparently according
to these guys you took
1053
01:08:22,375 --> 01:08:25,875
the shape of this camera now
so, if I want to talk to you
1054
01:08:25,916 --> 01:08:27,916
I got to talk to this
piece of plastic and
1055
01:08:27,958 --> 01:08:33,250
glass and metal and foam.
1056
01:08:33,291 --> 01:08:38,291
It's weird, never thought
you'd take the shape of
1057
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:42,750
something that you hated
so much but since you did,
1058
01:08:42,791 --> 01:08:44,916
you're in the shape of a camera.
1059
01:08:44,958 --> 01:08:45,916
Alright.
1060
01:08:45,958 --> 01:08:48,250
[Conor laughs]
1061
01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:50,375
It's beautiful out here man.
1062
01:08:50,416 --> 01:08:51,875
It's a shame it had to
end where it did because
1063
01:08:51,916 --> 01:08:56,625
we were so close to getting
were we wanted to go you know.
1064
01:08:56,666 --> 01:09:00,166
Sometimes you just got to
follow your gut instinct and
1065
01:09:00,208 --> 01:09:07,750
if that is not being on camera,
well then fuck the camera.
1066
01:09:07,791 --> 01:09:10,791
This place is like the
best place to walk barefoot
1067
01:09:10,833 --> 01:09:14,208
because there is just this
moss everywhere and it is
1068
01:09:14,250 --> 01:09:17,791
super soft on your toes.
1069
01:09:17,833 --> 01:09:19,958
This tree it's branches
look like your hair, almost.
1070
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,458
[Conor snickers]
1071
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:27,375
I don't know what exactly
your plans are, you know,
1072
01:09:27,416 --> 01:09:30,833
now that you're
back in the suburbs.
1073
01:09:30,875 --> 01:09:34,125
But you know, my advice
for you like I said before
1074
01:09:34,166 --> 01:09:37,833
would just be to keep
your nose clean, you know.
1075
01:09:37,875 --> 01:09:48,750
[Unintelligible] is cool, but
it's not like this you know.
1076
01:09:48,791 --> 01:09:51,666
If you ever feel like life
is getting overwhelming and
1077
01:09:51,708 --> 01:09:53,875
things are too crazy?
1078
01:09:53,916 --> 01:09:55,833
Just remember that there's
always places like this
1079
01:09:55,875 --> 01:09:58,333
waiting for you.
1080
01:09:58,375 --> 01:10:06,416
So, if you need to
change, change there.
1081
01:10:06,458 --> 01:10:15,666
[Conor starts playing guitar]
1082
01:10:15,708 --> 01:10:18,666
He doesn't want to be
portrayed where he is now
1083
01:10:18,708 --> 01:10:20,458
because he doesn't
know where he is now.
1084
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:23,416
You know if you caught
Mikey in a couple of months
1085
01:10:23,458 --> 01:10:26,166
after he started painting
on his empty canvas
1086
01:10:26,208 --> 01:10:30,541
and he had a good grasp of
who he was, he might've felt
1087
01:10:30,583 --> 01:10:32,708
a lot more comfortable
about being on the cameras.
1088
01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:38,000
But if you caught me when
I was in Mikey's shoes,
1089
01:10:38,041 --> 01:10:40,791
I would've done the same
thing, I would've ran.
1090
01:10:40,833 --> 01:10:47,166
[Conor starts playing Log
Cabin Thoughts by Roaming Bear]
1091
01:10:47,166 --> 01:10:50,833
[Conor starts playing Log
Cabin Thoughts by Roaming Bear]
1092
01:11:08,708 --> 01:11:10,541
The only people I'm really
looking to travel with
1093
01:11:10,583 --> 01:11:16,250
for [one piece at a time] at
this point would be musicians.
1094
01:11:16,291 --> 01:11:19,333
Or it would be nice to
find a lady to travel with
1095
01:11:19,375 --> 01:11:21,708
or make music with
me but if I can't
1096
01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:23,791
find that I'd settle for a band.
1097
01:11:23,833 --> 01:11:25,666
And the ladies will come later!
1098
01:11:25,708 --> 01:11:27,916
[Conor laughs]
1099
01:11:27,958 --> 01:11:34,166
[Log Cabin Thoughts by
Roaming Bear is being played]
1100
01:11:34,166 --> 01:11:37,958
[Log Cabin Thoughts by
Roaming Bear is being played]
1101
01:12:17,916 --> 01:12:24,791
Pat: Yeah, yeah we're by 3H.
1102
01:12:24,833 --> 01:12:27,000
I don't really know the
full thing but I think
1103
01:12:27,041 --> 01:12:29,875
he might've caught something
while he was on the road.
1104
01:12:29,916 --> 01:12:33,500
And he's just coming home
because of that kind of.
1105
01:12:33,541 --> 01:12:34,916
Conor: I don't know if I
have something different than
1106
01:12:34,958 --> 01:12:37,250
a Staph infection but I mean
like my blisters and stuff
1107
01:12:37,291 --> 01:12:41,750
are going away but I still am
getting fevers and headaches
1108
01:12:41,791 --> 01:12:44,833
and like nauseous
and dizzy every day.
1109
01:12:44,875 --> 01:12:50,666
So, I didn't want to have to
hitchhike and hop freight more.
1110
01:12:50,708 --> 01:12:53,666
Pat: Just in case something
bad ever does happen he always
1111
01:12:53,708 --> 01:12:55,458
has the option to come home.
1112
01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:56,791
I think he likes
coming home too because
1113
01:12:56,833 --> 01:12:58,833
he does miss his family
and stuff like that so,
1114
01:12:58,875 --> 01:13:02,083
I think it's all around good
1115
01:13:02,125 --> 01:13:03,333
Conor: How's it going man?
1116
01:13:03,375 --> 01:13:04,625
Pat: Good, good to see you.
1117
01:13:04,666 --> 01:13:06,166
Conor: Good seeing you.
1118
01:13:06,208 --> 01:13:09,333
I talked to Mikey's mom for
like 10 minutes a couple of days
1119
01:13:09,375 --> 01:13:12,250
ago, she asked me if
Mikey seemed to have fun.
1120
01:13:12,291 --> 01:13:14,291
I said he did at first.
1121
01:13:14,333 --> 01:13:26,791
[Conor laughs]
1122
01:13:26,833 --> 01:13:41,500
[birds chirping]
1123
01:13:41,541 --> 01:13:47,041
I live here five days a week
now, for the time being.
1124
01:13:47,083 --> 01:13:48,875
Sunday night through
Friday night,
1125
01:13:48,916 --> 01:13:51,250
I get 48 hours off
on the weekend.
1126
01:13:51,291 --> 01:13:54,208
Some about 15 weeks ago I
started working here for
1127
01:13:54,250 --> 01:13:57,500
my grandpa as his caregiver.
1128
01:13:57,541 --> 01:14:03,250
It's not very hard work per
se but it's hard to be at work
1129
01:14:03,291 --> 01:14:09,125
that long and not really
be doing what I want to do.
1130
01:14:09,166 --> 01:14:12,166
Steve: He's always available.
1131
01:14:12,208 --> 01:14:15,458
Never grumbles, always smiling.
1132
01:14:15,500 --> 01:14:20,416
He's told me some of his
experiences on the trains
1133
01:14:20,458 --> 01:14:25,500
and cars where he maybe gets
complimentary rides, somewhere.
1134
01:14:25,541 --> 01:14:28,666
I would definitely say
it shaped him a little.
1135
01:14:28,708 --> 01:14:31,000
You can't be exposed
to that many different
1136
01:14:31,041 --> 01:14:36,250
situations, environments, other
personalities along the road
1137
01:14:36,291 --> 01:14:42,125
of life and wouldn't be
swayed a little bit by it.
1138
01:14:42,166 --> 01:14:44,291
Conor: I don't think I do a
good job of fighting it off.
1139
01:14:44,333 --> 01:14:48,958
I think it's always there,
I mean it's just that
1140
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,708
anxiety that I have
to bear I guess.
1141
01:14:52,750 --> 01:14:56,166
That as long as I'm
going to be here doing
1142
01:14:56,208 --> 01:14:59,916
monotonous things, living
a normal life I'm going to
1143
01:14:59,958 --> 01:15:04,125
be desiring to do
something more exciting.
1144
01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:08,958
So, that feeling
doesn't go away.
1145
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,625
Music helps me forget
it temporarily but
it doesn't cure it.
1146
01:15:14,666 --> 01:15:24,708
[guitar playing]
1147
01:15:24,708 --> 01:15:35,333
[guitar playing]
1148
01:15:35,375 --> 01:15:38,250
Tom: He was determined to
go forward with going out
1149
01:15:38,291 --> 01:15:41,000
with Conor and
said wait a minute
1150
01:15:41,041 --> 01:15:43,000
this isn't what I want to do.
1151
01:15:43,041 --> 01:15:46,125
Tammy: He has realized he
doesn't want to be a bum
1152
01:15:46,166 --> 01:15:49,375
living on the road, he
said he used to think that
1153
01:15:49,416 --> 01:15:51,250
that's what he did want to do.
1154
01:15:51,291 --> 01:15:54,708
He realized that's absolutely
not what he wants to do.
1155
01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:58,958
[Mikey sighs]
1156
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,375
Mikey: So what have I
been doing, growing food.
1157
01:16:01,416 --> 01:16:07,750
Tammy: He found a guy that
is one of the most well-known
1158
01:16:07,791 --> 01:16:11,250
farmers in the country
that do permaculture.
1159
01:16:11,291 --> 01:16:13,791
Do you want to visit him?
1160
01:16:13,833 --> 01:16:17,708
Here's Michael, of course.
1161
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:22,416
[Tammy laughs]
1162
01:16:22,458 --> 01:16:29,750
Some of us walk on our feet,
others do things differently.
1163
01:16:29,791 --> 01:16:37,458
He's healed a lot, he's dealt
with Matt's death a lot more
1164
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:39,916
then he had when he was here.
1165
01:16:39,958 --> 01:16:43,708
He was very unhappy here, and
this is not the kind of life
1166
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:47,333
that makes sense to him.
1167
01:16:47,375 --> 01:16:49,500
Mikey: I do not work
for money, ever.
1168
01:16:49,541 --> 01:16:52,208
I don't have money.
1169
01:16:52,250 --> 01:16:59,833
I'm not scared at all, of that.
1170
01:16:59,875 --> 01:17:03,083
Tammy: Will he ever
come back here?
1171
01:17:03,125 --> 01:17:09,291
To live, I would be
surprised if he did.
1172
01:17:09,333 --> 01:17:13,250
Mikey: Two years it has been.
1173
01:17:13,291 --> 01:17:15,500
Yeah, I was searching
for a lot of things.
1174
01:17:15,541 --> 01:17:17,875
And I still search.
1175
01:17:17,916 --> 01:17:22,833
Thanks Conor, for doing
what you're doing and
1176
01:17:22,875 --> 01:17:26,125
inspiring all these people.
1177
01:17:26,166 --> 01:17:31,125
It's getting dark so I'm going
to get down from this tree.
1178
01:17:31,166 --> 01:17:34,208
Thank you all for watching,
this is just a message
1179
01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:42,000
from the Underground
News Network.
1180
01:17:42,041 --> 01:17:46,041
[Guitar based song plays]
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