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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,060 This was what we would call basically a vicious murder. 2 00:00:39,100 --> 00:00:40,230 It looked like she was 3 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:43,270 doing her best to get away from whoever did this to her 4 00:00:43,370 --> 00:00:44,670 but didn't make it. 5 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,380 Ty was loving and caring, and she just wanted to help people. 6 00:00:54,980 --> 00:00:56,480 There was a lot of fear that somebody 7 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:59,850 may be targeting lgbtq people. 8 00:02:38,650 --> 00:02:41,160 Tyler police promptly dispatch 9 00:02:41,260 --> 00:02:44,220 officer Joshua smedley to the scene, 10 00:02:44,330 --> 00:02:48,630 a vacant house in the northern section of the city. 11 00:02:48,730 --> 00:02:50,430 Due to it being a major accident 12 00:02:50,530 --> 00:02:51,670 and gunshots being fired, 13 00:02:51,770 --> 00:02:54,800 I tried to get there as soon as possible, 14 00:02:54,900 --> 00:02:58,040 and I tried to be as tactical as I could. 15 00:03:01,610 --> 00:03:03,440 I activated my body camera. 16 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:09,650 Approached the vehicle and noticed that it was 17 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:13,290 in the dirt off the curb 18 00:03:13,390 --> 00:03:15,220 right next to a telephone pole. 19 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,360 When I looked inside the vehicle, 20 00:03:18,460 --> 00:03:20,790 the driver was motionless. 21 00:03:43,450 --> 00:03:46,390 Usually, when people get into a major accident 22 00:03:46,490 --> 00:03:49,560 and they have a collision with an object, 23 00:03:49,660 --> 00:03:52,590 they're gonna have more blood coming from their nose, 24 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:54,630 head, mouth area. 25 00:03:58,170 --> 00:04:01,800 But I noticed the blood was coming from the shoulder, 26 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:03,500 the wrists, 27 00:04:03,610 --> 00:04:08,310 and was pretty heavy on the side of the victim, 28 00:04:10,610 --> 00:04:12,350 which seemed pretty strange. 29 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,640 I noticed that these wounds on the victim in 30 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:39,410 the shoulder and the wrist area appeared to be 31 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:42,410 impact wounds from gunshots. 32 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:47,510 That raised concerns that this is 33 00:04:47,620 --> 00:04:49,180 not just gonna be an accident. 34 00:04:51,250 --> 00:04:54,450 Emts are unable to revive the woman 35 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,220 and pronounce her dead. 36 00:04:56,330 --> 00:05:00,390 Officers also discover the victim's cellphone still 37 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:05,030 connected to the car stereo -- they collect it as evidence. 38 00:05:36,530 --> 00:05:37,600 There's no telling where 39 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:39,800 this could've first occurred. 40 00:05:39,940 --> 00:05:44,600 Could be the suspect's riding in the vehicle with the victim 41 00:05:44,710 --> 00:05:46,940 while shooting them or are they chasing 42 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,610 after them in their own vehicle? 43 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,730 There was only one thing we knew for sure, 44 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:09,530 and that's that we had a homicide. 45 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,590 Investigators also discover that 46 00:06:34,690 --> 00:06:36,990 their victim is a transgender woman. 47 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,560 I spoke to family members. 48 00:06:44,670 --> 00:06:46,170 I spoke to friends. 49 00:06:46,270 --> 00:06:47,670 I spoke to a lot of classmates 50 00:06:47,770 --> 00:06:50,940 and then also with some of Ty's professors, 51 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,470 and they all told me about the kind of 52 00:06:52,570 --> 00:06:55,880 person Ty was, that Ty was loving and caring, 53 00:06:55,980 --> 00:06:57,510 and she just wanted to help people. 54 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,720 She had gone back to school specifically to be in 55 00:07:01,850 --> 00:07:04,150 the medical field to where she could serve others. 56 00:07:12,590 --> 00:07:13,830 Back at the scene, 57 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:16,100 officers tape off the area 58 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 and begin their homicide investigation. 59 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:33,010 We found a passenger side mirror on the ground. 60 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,720 It appeared that the vehicle had run into this brick mailbox. 61 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:41,390 And we discovered evidence, 62 00:07:41,490 --> 00:07:44,160 shell casings 100 yards to the west. 63 00:08:21,660 --> 00:08:23,660 With the huge crime scene, 64 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,630 we knew we had quite a bit of work ahead of US at that point. 65 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:43,880 I then began to knock on addresses nearby 66 00:08:43,990 --> 00:08:46,520 where the incident had occurred in hopes of getting 67 00:08:46,620 --> 00:08:48,590 more leads to the investigation. 68 00:08:50,490 --> 00:08:53,190 Not a lot of people answered the door 69 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,000 due to it being past 3 A.M. 70 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:26,960 Bianca: I was hoping that she had witnessed 71 00:09:27,060 --> 00:09:28,730 more of the accident, 72 00:09:28,830 --> 00:09:32,000 but all she saw was the vehicle. 73 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:33,270 She didn't see anyone. 74 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,270 She didn't see anyone inside the vehicle. 75 00:09:37,770 --> 00:09:40,810 So she ended up not having any more leads to 76 00:09:40,910 --> 00:09:41,980 the investigation. 77 00:10:27,860 --> 00:10:30,690 Police in Tyler, Texas, have just found 78 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:33,990 the body of 24-year-old Ty Underwood... 79 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:37,500 ...shot to death in her car. 80 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:47,210 She had been shot numerous times, apparently four times 81 00:10:47,310 --> 00:10:50,110 from what looked like outside of the vehicle. 82 00:10:51,610 --> 00:10:53,710 The suspect may have been standing at the door 83 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:56,350 or sitting in the car -- it looked like 84 00:10:56,450 --> 00:10:59,450 she was doing her best to get away from whoever did this 85 00:10:59,550 --> 00:11:03,020 to her but didn't make it, and she died in her car. 86 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:08,030 We knew this was what we would call basically 87 00:11:08,130 --> 00:11:09,060 a vicious murder. 88 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,080 Around this time, there was a lot of fear in 89 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:27,080 the lgbtq community about people being who they were. 90 00:11:27,180 --> 00:11:30,150 When you start talking to family members or classmates, 91 00:11:30,250 --> 00:11:33,320 it stops becoming more of an abstract concept 92 00:11:33,420 --> 00:11:35,460 and this is a real person who had 93 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:37,620 real family and real friends who are in real pain. 94 00:11:41,860 --> 00:11:43,260 Back on the streets, 95 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,370 the investigation continues. 96 00:11:46,970 --> 00:11:49,900 Investigators look into Ty's background 97 00:11:50,010 --> 00:11:52,340 and come up with her current address. 98 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,880 Detectives Nathan Elliott and Andy erbaugh head 99 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:58,140 to the apartment to speak with Ty's 100 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:59,880 roommate, breonna. 101 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:23,200 When we go contact anybody in a murder investigation, 102 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:24,740 we don't know how they're involved, 103 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,810 because they could be the suspect. 104 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:27,070 They could know what happened. 105 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:30,480 They could have information that is valuable as evidence, 106 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:31,810 so we don't 107 00:12:31,910 --> 00:12:33,910 want to give up too much of our hand in this. 108 00:13:52,990 --> 00:13:55,460 She was touched emotionally to the point of 109 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:58,060 crying hysterically, 110 00:13:58,170 --> 00:13:59,500 almost to the point of gagging. 111 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,530 So at that point in time, 112 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,040 we almost check her off as somebody who's not involved. 113 00:14:09,980 --> 00:14:12,310 Ty and her friend were living together, 114 00:14:12,410 --> 00:14:13,850 are best friends, 115 00:14:13,950 --> 00:14:18,280 and she knows pretty much everything that Ty does. 116 00:14:18,390 --> 00:14:22,860 We were hoping that she could provide some details about why 117 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,330 Ty was out at that time of night, 118 00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:27,130 especially when Ty was supposed to be at school 119 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:28,600 that morning. 120 00:14:46,620 --> 00:14:48,510 Detectives bring breonna 121 00:14:48,620 --> 00:14:50,650 to the station to talk further. 122 00:15:57,020 --> 00:16:01,150 To know that they're having to live in this kind of fear, 123 00:16:01,260 --> 00:16:03,560 to know that they're even scared to walk on the street, 124 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:06,990 too scared that they might be killed just for who they are, 125 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,060 it just kind of lights a fire under you, 126 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,560 because obviously you definitely 127 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:14,430 don't want that to keep happening and want to catch 128 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:16,470 who did this, you know, even more. 129 00:16:52,210 --> 00:16:55,710 While detectives work to access Ty's phone, 130 00:16:55,810 --> 00:16:58,440 they continue to speak with Ty's friends 131 00:16:58,550 --> 00:17:01,880 to learn more about the people in her inner circle. 132 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:42,160 We didn't know what Ty needed the money for -- was it 133 00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:43,620 she was late on bills? 134 00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,320 Was she owed somebody some money, 135 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:46,760 where she's going to meet somebody, 136 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:47,830 to pay 'em the money? 137 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,500 We didn't know if Ty was gonna 138 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,170 go buy something from an individual and got robbed. 139 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:13,820 Once we learned that Ty was dating 140 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,820 somebody who went to Texas college and played football, 141 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:19,790 and from the roommate that the name was Carlton, 142 00:18:19,890 --> 00:18:22,500 so now we had a lead to follow. 143 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,130 So our next step is to go to Texas college, 144 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:27,830 find out who Carlton is. 145 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:36,180 Detectives travel to Texas college, 146 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,050 where a 21-year-old football player named 147 00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:42,780 Carlton champion, Jr., is brought in to talk. 148 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:19,690 At this point, it was suspicious that Carlton 149 00:19:19,790 --> 00:19:21,050 would delete the app, 150 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,760 but this doesn't make him a murderer. 151 00:19:43,710 --> 00:19:45,140 Champion:... 152 00:19:57,130 --> 00:19:59,890 Carlton was adamant, stumbling over his words, 153 00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:02,400 that he hadn't had sex with Ty -- 154 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:03,900 being a football player, 155 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,400 being that now a trans woman has been 156 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:09,340 killed a few blocks from the college. 157 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,200 Word was getting out, so I don't know if he didn't 158 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:13,140 want to be associated with Ty 159 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,070 where everybody else would know it. 160 00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:18,740 Detectives press Carlton about his movements 161 00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:22,820 that night after he returned from Dallas. 162 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,470 When we told Carlton that Ty had been killed, 163 00:21:16,570 --> 00:21:18,770 Carlton was quick to say that he had nothing to 164 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:22,110 do with it, said that other people could vouch for him. 165 00:21:22,210 --> 00:21:25,580 Just kept denying that he was involved in any way. 166 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,210 He really didn't have any emotions, 167 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,820 no emotion about somebody being killed at all. 168 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,350 Kind of raised some red flags. 169 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,830 The murder of Ty Underwood 170 00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:48,300 has left the city of Tyler, Texas, 171 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,040 struggling for answers. 172 00:21:54,580 --> 00:21:56,610 Ty's death was a really scary 173 00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:58,610 moment for people in this community, 174 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,650 and there was a lot of community outrage about what had happened. 175 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:16,330 Now detectives set their sights on one suspect, 176 00:22:16,430 --> 00:22:20,430 Texas college football player, Carlton champion, Jr. 177 00:22:21,970 --> 00:22:25,670 As detectives try to verify Carlton's statements, 178 00:22:25,770 --> 00:22:29,540 they focus on another hopeful source of information -- 179 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,710 Ty's locked cellphone. 180 00:22:33,050 --> 00:22:34,850 We knew that we needed to get in the cellphone, 181 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:36,750 but we didn't have the pass code. 182 00:22:36,850 --> 00:22:40,650 We know that if you try the wrong pass code on an iPhone 183 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,020 too many times, it's gonna lock the phone up. 184 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,990 And luckily, we typed in Ty's birthday, 185 00:22:46,090 --> 00:22:47,790 and it opened the phone. 186 00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:49,460 When we looked in Ty's cellphone, 187 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,630 we saw that Ty had been texting another person. 188 00:22:52,770 --> 00:22:55,530 We tracked down that phone number and saw 189 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,800 that Ty have been texting with another male at Tyler. 190 00:23:03,910 --> 00:23:07,550 Detectives give the man, Dalton Howard, a call. 191 00:23:11,150 --> 00:23:12,450 192 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:29,840 He seemed very surprised that a detective would be 193 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:32,270 calling him to begin with, and he said that 194 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:34,340 he didn't know anybody by the name of Tyrone. 195 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Not sure if Dalton is telling the truth, 196 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:42,720 detectives swan and Matthews visit him at his home 197 00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:44,480 and press him about the murder. 198 00:24:45,110 --> 00:24:46,250 ... 199 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,470 He seemed pretty convincing that he had never met her, 200 00:25:08,570 --> 00:25:12,870 but as an investigator, I have seen people who lie very well. 201 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,920 When he told me that he was willing to let US look 202 00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:28,150 at his phone or whatever, 203 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:32,120 he certainly seemed willing to help in some way. 204 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:34,730 Then he tells US that he deleted it, 205 00:25:34,830 --> 00:25:38,560 and suddenly we're thinking okay, what does he have to hide? 206 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,140 Detectives aren't convinced 207 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,140 Dalton is telling the truth, 208 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640 so they return with him to the station for 209 00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:49,380 further questioning. 210 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:19,470 Any time somebody makes absolute statements like that, 211 00:27:19,570 --> 00:27:23,770 I never do things that might cause US to want to go down 212 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:25,100 that path, 213 00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:27,070 but for somebody to tell US that they never leave the house 214 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:28,210 at night, 215 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:32,610 especially when they are texting somebody 216 00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:35,780 that closely before a crime 217 00:27:37,180 --> 00:27:39,050 certainly brings suspicion upon him. 218 00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:05,980 Detectives hunting Ty Underwood's killer 219 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,480 in Tyler, Texas, 220 00:28:07,580 --> 00:28:13,120 have their eye on two suspects that Ty met on social media. 221 00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:17,260 Now, the one they've been questioning, Dalton Howard, 222 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,060 has requested to take a polygraph test. 223 00:28:22,430 --> 00:28:26,100 As the interview progressed, he became much more 224 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,870 uncomfortable as I began to question him 225 00:28:28,970 --> 00:28:33,270 more and more about the timing and also whether or not 226 00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:35,070 he ever met 227 00:28:35,180 --> 00:28:38,140 Ty, so we gave him a polygraph, 228 00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:40,380 and at the conclusion of that polygraph, 229 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,050 we considered the fact that he had not 230 00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:49,320 contacted or texted Ty after the, 231 00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:53,090 last text, which was about two hours before the death, 232 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:55,790 and that, 233 00:28:55,900 --> 00:29:00,600 there was no plans to meet Ty in those texts. 234 00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:04,770 I determined that he was no longer a suspect. 235 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,740 Detectives next turn their attention 236 00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:12,380 back to the other man 237 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,980 Ty had been communicating with, Carlton champion Jr. 238 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920 When I started looking at Ty's cellphone, I turned 239 00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:21,720 the airplane mode off, 240 00:29:21,820 --> 00:29:26,130 which a lot of times we turn it on to preserve evidence. 241 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:28,530 Then all of these messages started coming through. 242 00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:31,200 Then going through all the kik messages, I saw 243 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,100 that Ty and Carlton were 244 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,700 messaging back and forth at two o'clock in the morning, 245 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,140 just minutes before Ty was shot. 246 00:29:42,610 --> 00:29:45,910 They're arguing back and forth, and they end up 247 00:29:46,010 --> 00:29:47,610 agreeing to meet. 248 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,320 Ty says she's coming to the college. 249 00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:53,120 Carlton says, "no meet me on 25th." 250 00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:56,720 And she says, "I'm on my way." 251 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,800 Detectives visit Carlton at his dorm room 252 00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:06,600 as they ready a search warrant. 253 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:22,880 Now that we know he's lied, 254 00:30:24,220 --> 00:30:26,390 that's an advantage to US as detectives, 255 00:30:26,490 --> 00:30:28,950 because now we have something that we can 256 00:30:29,060 --> 00:30:30,460 interrogate him on. 257 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,770 He pretty much was... 258 00:31:50,370 --> 00:31:51,140 Throwing it in our face. 259 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,570 Like, "how dare you ask me that? 260 00:31:52,670 --> 00:31:54,110 How dare you ask me if I killed her?" 261 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Investigators carry out their search. 262 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,460 He would not admit to anything. 263 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,700 He was just adamant that he did not send those messages, 264 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,330 and he did not know who did. 265 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,140 So we did what we did and served a search warrant 266 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,540 and seized some of his belongings. 267 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,940 With the amount of blood spatter 268 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040 that was sprayed through the car, 269 00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,210 if he had been in the car with her 270 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,150 or even standing outside the car when she was shot, 271 00:33:10,250 --> 00:33:11,420 there may be biological evidence 272 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,820 or blood evidence on that shirt 273 00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:17,360 or on his pants or especially on his shoes. 274 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,230 But then investigators find something revealing 275 00:33:25,330 --> 00:33:29,100 as they review the security footage from Texas college. 276 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,440 During the interviews with Carlton, 277 00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:31,840 he continued to say that he never 278 00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:34,770 left his dorm room past 9:30 or 10 the night before. 279 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,410 We were able to attain video from 280 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:40,050 the surveillance cameras of the dorm hall, 281 00:33:40,150 --> 00:33:42,710 which showed he left the dorm about 282 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:44,520 a little after two o'clock that next morning 283 00:33:45,850 --> 00:33:47,950 and returned about 20 minutes later, 284 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:50,020 which would have gave him enough time 285 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,090 to kill Ty and run back to his dorm. 286 00:33:56,460 --> 00:33:58,460 Given all that we had 287 00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:02,030 learned up until this point, it was time to bring Carlton in. 288 00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:19,920 Tyler, Texas, police have prime suspect, 289 00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:22,720 Carlton champion, Jr., at the station, 290 00:34:22,820 --> 00:34:25,990 where they confront him about his relationship with Ty. 291 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,760 When I was interviewing Carlton, 292 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:41,130 he knew he was at the center of our investigation 293 00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,200 at this point, and for his attitude -- 294 00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:46,300 to be smirking, to want me to go 295 00:35:46,410 --> 00:35:50,240 buy him some food, to be nonchalant, is not 296 00:35:50,340 --> 00:35:53,950 ordinarily how a suspect or a person being interrogated 297 00:35:54,050 --> 00:35:55,410 for a homicide acts. 298 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:20,640 I could tell that Ty wanted more in this relation, 299 00:36:20,740 --> 00:36:23,240 something Carlton did, 300 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:25,840 Ty was more emotionally invested in the relationship. 301 00:36:25,980 --> 00:36:28,950 Ty tells Carlton that she's not coming. 302 00:36:29,050 --> 00:36:30,880 They're pretty much through with, 303 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,720 and then Ty messages 304 00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:35,150 a few hours later and says, "no, I'm coming to pick you up." 305 00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:55,570 We explained everything we had -- 306 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,340 the messages, the video, everything. 307 00:36:58,450 --> 00:37:00,510 It didn't seem to matter to Carlton. 308 00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:45,290 We gave Carlton every opportunity to tell US, 309 00:37:45,390 --> 00:37:47,160 you know, his defense, 310 00:37:47,260 --> 00:37:49,490 what actually happened in his words, 311 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,030 and during all the interviews, 312 00:37:52,130 --> 00:37:53,730 he wouldn't tell US what happened. 313 00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:56,400 He'd just continued to say he wasn't there, he didn't do it. 314 00:38:38,010 --> 00:38:40,850 Unfortunately, without evidence to connect 315 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:42,950 Carlton to the crime scene, 316 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:46,050 detectives don't have enough for an arrest 317 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:49,950 until they receive word back from the lab. 318 00:40:09,140 --> 00:40:10,140 There are some investigations 319 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,470 when you have a lot of evidence against somebody, 320 00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:15,940 sometimes people will eventually say, "okay, 321 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,110 I'm guilty." 322 00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:18,210 With Carlton champion, 323 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:21,510 he just dug his heels in the dirt and continued 324 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:24,120 to say that he had no involvement in 325 00:40:24,220 --> 00:40:26,790 the homicide of Ty when clearly there was 326 00:40:26,890 --> 00:40:29,320 evidence against him. 327 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,160 I think Carlton was threatened. 328 00:40:32,260 --> 00:40:34,430 I think he didn't want his football players 329 00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:37,460 or his friends to know that he was dating a transgender woman. 330 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,660 He didn't want that. 331 00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:42,300 And so that's why he killed her. 332 00:40:53,210 --> 00:40:57,080 Based on the evidence, Carlton champion, Jr., is 333 00:40:57,180 --> 00:41:00,850 charged with the first degree murder of Ty Underwood. 334 00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:07,760 Through the trial, Carlton was still flippant and cold, 335 00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:10,730 and denying and denying it. 336 00:41:10,830 --> 00:41:14,370 Going so far as to lash out in the courtroom, 337 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:15,970 caught on news cameras. 338 00:41:20,940 --> 00:41:22,610 I don't think that sat well with the jury, 339 00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:27,310 and in the end, they convicted him of murder and sentenced him 340 00:41:27,410 --> 00:41:28,850 to life in prison. 341 00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:38,560 There was a vigil for Ty after the murder, when everybody 342 00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:41,360 began to learn more about Ty as a person. 343 00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:44,930 It brought together a large cross section of the community. 344 00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:47,570 We had probably about 50 people 345 00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:49,330 together from all over the community, 346 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,540 family members, friends, coming together to celebrate who Ty was 347 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:56,770 as a person and the fact that Ty was going to get justice. 348 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,240 When Ty's death occurred, 349 00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:01,950 that also sparked a lot of other conversations 350 00:42:02,050 --> 00:42:04,350 that weren't going to be had in this community, 351 00:42:04,450 --> 00:42:08,320 and lgbtq advocates in the community 352 00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:11,390 to take a harder stance, to speak up. 353 00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:13,190 They needed to demand humanization 354 00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:15,190 in their own community, 355 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:18,760 and I don't think that we would have the strong dynamic 356 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:20,870 base of lgbtq advocates 357 00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:23,900 in this area had they not taken that stance when 358 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,070 Ty was murdered. 28150

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