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[Steve Bannon]
First time I saw it was
at Harvard Business School.
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It just blew me away.
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When he goes out to that runway
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and then you see
the bombers coming in.
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I think it's got a lot
of good life lessons in it.
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It sets up very clearly this
kind of two types of leadership.
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[Errol Morris]
One being the touchy-feely guy
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and Gregory Peck,
who is clearly a hard-ass.
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[Bannon]
But he's not a hard-ass.
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[Peck]
Smoke, Ernie?
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Thank you, sir.
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Think about the scene where
he's coming to take command.
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The staff car pulls up
to the gate,
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and he's riding shotgun
with the driver.
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And I think he even calls him
by his first name.
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He gets out,
he smokes a cigarette,
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he gives a cigarette
to the sergeant,
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then he throws
the cigarette away,
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gets in the back seat
of the staff car,
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and he's a general.
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All right, Sergeant.
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[Bannon]
He understands his dharma.
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He understands
what he has to do.
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He understands that for
the betterment of those guys,
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for them to fulfill their task,
he has to do it.
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[soldiers chattering]
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Attention!
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Dharma is the combination
of duty, fate, and destiny.
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For me to fulfill my dharma,
I have to fulfill my duty.
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Rest.
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I've been sent down here
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to take over what has come to
be known as "a hard-luck group."
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Well, I don't believe
in hard luck.
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So we're going to find out
what the trouble is.
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We're going back
to fundamentals.
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And I can tell you now,
one reason
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I think you've
been having hard luck--
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I saw it in your faces
last night.
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I can see it there now.
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You've been looking
at a lot of air lately.
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You think you ought
to have a rest.
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In short,
you're sorry for yourselves.
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Now I don't have
a lot of patience with this,
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"What are we
fighting for?" stuff.
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We're in a war,
a shooting war.
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We've got to fight.
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And some of us have got to die.
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I'm not trying to tell you
not to be afraid.
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Fear is normal.
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But stop worrying about it--
and about yourselves.
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Stop making plans.
Forget about going home.
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Consider yourselves
already dead.
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Attention!
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I think it's
a very simple film
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with a very simple
powerful message that...
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modernity is based
around emotionalism,
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what you think is
helping everybody,
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but in fact is not allowing
them to fulfill their destiny,
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to fulfill their fate.
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Even though that fate
and that destiny
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may be their own
personal destruction.
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[Morris] A lot of your ideas
are about tearing things down,
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war, and destruction.
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I believe that you need some
fairly radical restructuring
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of this,
and rethinking of this.
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The permanent political class
that controls our country
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is going to stay
exactly like it is,
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until you have true disruption.
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It can't be a pillow fight.
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You need some killers.
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You get some killers,
you're going to see some change
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We all know
what the problems are.
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"Do you have
the guts to do it?"
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Trump had it,
and that's why
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he's President
of the United States.
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[plane diving low]
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Can I bring up
one last thing?
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just Twelve O'Clock High,
one thing I thought of is that
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in the motivation of the men
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to focus on the mission,
and not themselves,
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he was prepared
to not be loved,
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in fact to be hated.
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[Errol]
If you want to effect change
the important thing is to--
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Effect change, yeah.
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I used to tell the guys
at Breitbart,
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Napoleon's saying
to his Marshals of France,
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"When you set out to
take Vienna, take Vienna."
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[Bannon]
I had gone to Telluride
on and off for years.
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I don't even think
I knew at time
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that you were going
to have an interview
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with McNamara afterwards.
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I was just there
to see the film.
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I wanted to at least
start to produce these myself,
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and start to make films
like this.
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Seeing "The Fog of War" at
Telluride was the inspiration.
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It's all of you to blame.
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Yeah, why not?
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If you go back
to Twelve O'Clock High,
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to this Quonset hut
where those pilots were,
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that's kind of
the populist side.
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The working men of America.
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But then you see your film
and you understand
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the precision daylight bombing
and flying in a fortress
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and all that...
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was conceived and thought of
by guys like McNamara.
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[plane diving on an attack]
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What worked against Germany
and Imperial Japan
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clearly was
the exact wrong thing
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for how you fight a war
against people
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trying to get their independence
and their freedom.
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You can see in McNamara
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the personification
of globalization.
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It's that scientific,
engineering, managerial elite,
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that everything's
a set of math to them.
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[Morris] This is all out
of Harvard Business School.
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It's all out of
Harvard Business School.
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They had this concept, I think
it's become a radical concept,
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about the maximization
of shareholder value--
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the whole beginning
of the shipping of jobs.
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Everything could have
a mathematical base to it,
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or have a logical,
or a reason base to it.
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[Morris] I look at The Fog of
Waras a very despairing film,
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where McNamara
very near the end, says,
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"Rationality will not save us."
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I took it a different way.
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It's a Greek tragedy, I took it
as hopeful, and here's why:
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[Morris] What's hopeful
about Greek tragedy?
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Because you learn
the lessons of it, right?
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His rationality can't save us,
didn't save us,
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actually buried us into Vietnam
much, much deeper.
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[Robert S. McNamara]
What makes us omniscient?
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Have we a record of omniscience?
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We are the strongest nation
in the world today.
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I do not believe
we should ever
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apply that economic, political,
or military power unilaterally.
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If we had followed
that rule in Vietnam,
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we wouldn't have been there.
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We were a hardcore
Democratic family.
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I went to a Catholic
military prep school.
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Vietnam tore
that community apart.
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We had a football coach,
Mr. Monaghan.
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His boy got killed in Vietnam.
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Some of these families,
they never recovered from that.
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I'm a paperboy at the time,
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and delivering
the papers every day
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and you see 200,000 troops
and 250,000 troops,
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and 300,000 troops,
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and you're a patriot
so you still believe in it,
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but you see
the families destroyed.
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So I'm at West Point.
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My daughter's sophomore year,
it's 2008, I think it is.
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[gasps]
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It's a tough story to tell.
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The West Point girls'
volleyball team
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was going to get new uniforms,
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and they bring the uniforms in
in boxes off to the side,
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and the girls are practicin' in
this huge old dirigible hangar,
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where the volleyball team
plays-- from the 1920s.
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Looking at this, and looking
at the West Point girls,
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and I look over at the boxes.
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I just kind of go over
and look at the new uniforms.
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They're sealed.
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"Made in Vietnam."
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"Made in Vietnam."
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I lost it.
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"Made in Vietnam."
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Fifty thousand dead, you know,
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a hundred thousand wounded,
families torn apart,
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the whole of Southeast Asia,
what,
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10, 20, 30
million people murdered?
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Right?
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What was it all for?
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What was Monaghan's kid,
what was that for?
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"Made in Vietnam."
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With all the jobs
lost to globalization.
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It was an incredibly
clarifying moment for me.
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[thunder rumbling]
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[Morris] In the 20th century,
we decided,
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that these individual nation-
states at war with each other
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would produce disaster,
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and that some solution
had to be contrived.
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And when you say we,
what do you mean, "we"?
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We didn't decide that at all.
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I completely and totally
disagree with that.
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-I know you do.
-No, but--
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It wasn't the common man
that got us into World War I,
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and in World War II,
and in Vietnam,
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and all the other wars
that have been fought.
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It's Monaghan's son
that's always the recipient
of all the crap.
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When you say,
these "nation states,"
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it's the elites that
got us into that mess,
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and then they came up with some
sort of supranational apparatus
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that's gonna take care of it.
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No, no, no, no, no.
I disagree 100 percent.
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They are the ones
that drove the destruction
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of the 20th century.
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The reason I'm a populist,
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I've gone to
the elite institutions.
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I was in the United States Navy
as an officer,
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went to
Harvard Business School,
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went to Georgetown and got
a Master's in Foreign Affairs,
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was in all the board rooms,
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went to Hollywood...
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and here's the one thing
I can tell you:
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If you gave me the choice
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between being governed
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by the first 100 people
that show up in red ball caps
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at a Trump rally...
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versus the first hundred guys
that walk into Davos
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with their tickets,
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I'll take
the working class people,
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because they have more humanity
and they understand the world,
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and they understand and
have grit and determination,
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and they've had to deal...
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with all the world
dumps on them.
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[Morris] But what good
does it do to throw
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all of the DACA people
out of America?
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What good does it do to allow
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corporations to pollute
the environment?
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Is this populism?
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Or is this
something much uglier?
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Uglier being what?
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Serving big business
and the rich.
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It's anti-populism.
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That's what bothers me.
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That's what makes me
think you're crazy.
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And why?
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Why? Because I think there's
an inherent contradiction
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in the views that you hold?
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Do you just want
to destroy everything?
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[prop plane overhead]
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[Bannon] You may hate my guts,
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and you may hate
what I stand for,
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but if we don't allow
some way for the system
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to spread the wealth,
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we're going to have
a revolution in this country.
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It is coming...
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as night follows day.
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[dramatic music]
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Do movies provide
an alternative reality,
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something that is more powerful
than the real world?
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In the Reagan film, I take
a lot of time in talking about
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how our idealized version
of America
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was done by those
great filmmakers
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in the '20s and '30s,
'40s and '50s.
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"When the legend becomes more
powerful, print the legend."
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Do you think maybe there's a
chance we still might find her?
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Injun will chase a thing 'til
he thinks he's chased it enough.
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Then he quits.
Same way when he runs.
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Seems like he never learns
there's such a thing
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as a critter who'll
just keep coming on.
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So we'll find them in the end,
I promise you.
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We'll find them, just as sure
as the turning of the Earth.
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Who do you see yourself as
in these movies?
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Gregory Peck? John Wayne?
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I've never actually
sat there and go,
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"Oh, I'm the Gregory Peck
character."
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But clearly in the films
that I love
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and I watch
over and over again,
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there's a certain type
of individual.
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Remember, the John Wayne
character in The Searchers
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is kind of an outcast.
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[woman screaming]
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[man] It's hard to believe
they're white.
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[John Wayne]
They ain't white... anymore.
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-[sighs]
-They're Comanch...
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Where are your casualties?
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[woman moaning]
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I'm clearly drawn
to those characters,
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and the way
they comport themselves--
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also the way
they never give up.
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You know, the honey badger
nature of, "just don't quit."
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That famous video, he doesn't
care and he doesn't quit.
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He's got all these
terrible habits.
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He's relentless.
He will not give up.
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And I think the thing went out
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and had, like,
a hundred million views.
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We used to watch it
at Breitbart.
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"Honey badger
doesn't give a shit, right?
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because he doesn't give a shit.
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You just gotta do
what you gotta do.
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We didn't care
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if we played by the rules,
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or particularly against
the Republican establishment
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that was so straitlaced
at the time.
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[Morris] When did you realize
that you could
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turn it into politics?
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Was there an epiphany?
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Was it at Breitbart?
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2008, the financial crisis
in the fall,
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and then President Obama
coming in in January,
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and the reaction to that,
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the bailouts and
everything like that.
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I saw in the Tea Party
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really what would become
this populist movement.
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It would need a platform
that could get its stories out,
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and in Breitbart and Andrew,
you had a real firebrand,
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a firebrand who knew culture.
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One of his themes
was that culture
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is upriver from politics.
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Just like in
Twelve O'Clock High,
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he'd made it
a central part of our mission.
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[rumbling]
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Anthony Weiner at that time
was as much a cultural figure
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as a political figure.
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One of the most promising young
politicians in the country.
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They were talking about
Anthony Weiner as being
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a legitimate candidate for
President of the United States.
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We see it in the United States
Senate every single day,
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where members say, "We want
amendments. We want debate.
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We want amendments,
but we're still a no."
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And then we stand up and say,
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"Oh, if only we had a different
process, we'd vote yes."
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You vote yes if you believe yes.
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You vote in favor of something
if you believe
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it's the right thing.
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If you believe it's
the wrong thing, you vote no.
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We are following a procedure.
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I will not yield
to the gentleman,
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and the gentleman
will observe regular order.
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The gentleman will
observe regular order.
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I was down in Richmond
with my dad
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at eleven o'clock
on a Friday night,
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watching the Nightly News,
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and we get a phone call,
you know,
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can we get on the bridge line?
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Right away? There's something
that's happened with Weiner.
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He's at home watching
the Washington Capitals game
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and he tweets out--
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[thump]
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[multiple birds tweeting]
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He had thought
he was direct messaging her,
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but he had hit
the wrong thing on Twitter,
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and put it out
on his entire Twitter feed.
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But only up for a nanosecond.
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He took it down immediately.
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In fact, nobody
ever asked later,
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how did we actually
capture that?
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Because you just couldn't
possibly capture it...
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unless you had somebody,
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basically on watch,
and they did.
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Some people approached Andrew
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that were kind of volunteers
and were following this,
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really put him
on 24-hour watch.
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[Twitter sound]
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Andrew immediately
went out publicly.
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It got to be a firestorm, but
Weiner immediately came back
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and said, "I'd been hacked."
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This would be
the deathblow for the company.
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If we had gone out and done this
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and actually made it up
or it was not true,
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Breitbart's over.
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It was I think on
that Monday or Tuesday
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that other people
started coming forward.
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In fact, someone approached us,
a guy had approached us
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with the pictures...
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There was a classic
Andrew Breitbart,
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drop one, let him respond.
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Drop the other,
let him deny it.
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We got down to
the fourth picture,
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the money shot so to say.
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-The dick pic.
-His johnson, right.
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He basically called surrender.
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Andrew was in the hotel right
next door, complete coincidence.
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Weiner's backstage,
I think, or what I heard,
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trying to talk his wife into
coming up on stage with him.
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Andrew comes in the back.
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All the national media
turns to Andrew Breitbart.
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They're asking him questions,
the guys have their microphones,
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"Hey, we can't hear
your answer. Go up on stage."
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And Andrew Breitbart walks up.
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I'm here coincidentally,
I just arrived at LaGuardia
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because of media requests.
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And as I got into my hotel...
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I'm Andrew Breitbart,
by the way.
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It is news, my friend,
it is news.
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And I know of countless other
websites and news organizations
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that would put this out there.
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If you wrote a script
and pitched that in Hollywood,
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they would laugh you
out of the room.
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I mean, here you're
watching on national TV
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and Andrew Breitbart walks up
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to the Anthony Weiner
press conference
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with global media there--
and literally takes it over
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and has a command performance.
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And you would have no way of
knowing where this would lead.
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No, if you said at the time
that, in 2016,
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in the final two months
that Anthony Weiner,
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Huma Abedin,
the Breitbart operation,
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the guy that followed Andrew
after he died...
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It's like I said,
if you wrote that script,
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people would throw you
out of the room.
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It would be ridiculous.
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[cheering]
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[Bannon] I really didn't
know Trump.
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He knew me as
the head of Breitbart.
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The Mercers just went
to Trump, and said,
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"You're going to lose
by 15 or 20 points..
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if he kept going down this path.
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After I had met with him, I went
to the campaign headquarters
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for the first time...
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'Cause I'd never been
in a campaign headquarters
in my life!
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00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,431
So I get there at like,
7:00 at night in Trump Tower,
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the 14th floor.
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00:22:27,258 --> 00:22:29,043
And so I expected young
people to be walking around
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with polling data,
and all these smart guys
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looking at targets of
where we're going to go to.
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00:22:34,701 --> 00:22:37,312
I'm thinking I'm going
to walk into some Robert Redford
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The Candidatemovie.
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When I get up there,
it's totally dark.
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Nobody there.
It's like, it's 7:00 at night.
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And there's one guy. And
I said, "Where is everybody?"
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And he goes,
"Well, it's Sunday."
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And I go, "Yeah, I got that,
but where are they?"
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00:22:57,419 --> 00:22:58,638
And he says, "Well, they'll
all be back tomorrow.
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They don't really
work weekends."
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00:23:01,815 --> 00:23:05,732
When I take over he's somewhere
between 12 and 16 points down,
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double digits down in most
of the battleground states.
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00:23:10,737 --> 00:23:12,652
Hillary Clinton's really
not even campaigning anymore,
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just raising money.
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00:23:14,915 --> 00:23:17,004
Then when I'm announced,
it's like the Trump campaign's
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so out of business--
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This is just Trump
getting vengeance
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00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:22,183
by getting this mad bomber
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who's just going to wreak
vengeance on all his enemies.
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00:23:26,013 --> 00:23:28,015
-The mad bomber being you.
-Yes.
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And it's the exact opposite.
All we did is said,
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"Hey, we've got
to be maniacally focused.
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Simplify everything."
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Make her the spokesman
and the guardian
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of a corrupt and
incompetent status quo--
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an elite--
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and you make Trump
the agent of change
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00:23:41,028 --> 00:23:42,290
that President Obama wasn't.
436
00:23:44,771 --> 00:23:47,730
[cheering]
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00:23:49,297 --> 00:23:51,691
We could see his message
was resonating,
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00:23:51,778 --> 00:23:54,215
and all you had to do was
channel that in the right way.
439
00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:59,568
And yes,
we will build a wall.
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[loud cheering]
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00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:04,747
Have to.
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00:24:07,141 --> 00:24:08,447
We have to.
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00:24:10,013 --> 00:24:13,452
Build that wall!
Build that wall!
444
00:24:19,806 --> 00:24:21,808
[Bannon]
Remember, we had a great canary
in the mineshaft. We had Brexit.
445
00:24:23,810 --> 00:24:24,898
Nigel Farage says,
446
00:24:24,985 --> 00:24:26,334
"Brexit would not have happened
447
00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:28,945
if there was not
Breitbart London."
448
00:24:29,032 --> 00:24:31,252
I could see Brexit and 2016
449
00:24:31,339 --> 00:24:33,733
are inextricably linked,
they're inextricably linked.
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00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:34,995
It's just going to be
three verticals
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we're going to focus on.
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Number one, we've got to stop
mass illegal immigration
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00:24:39,695 --> 00:24:41,741
and limit legal immigration
to get our sovereignty back
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and protect our workers.
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00:24:43,569 --> 00:24:45,919
Number two, we have to bring
manufacturing jobs back,
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basically from Asia.
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00:24:47,834 --> 00:24:49,966
And number three, we have
to get out of
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these pointless foreign wars.
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00:24:57,844 --> 00:24:59,759
So, her thing,
when she came out,
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00:24:59,846 --> 00:25:03,371
was, "Breitbart's racist,
Bannon's a white supremacist."
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00:25:03,458 --> 00:25:05,025
I walked in,
it was like the fifth day,
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I go into the war room
with all these TV sets
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00:25:07,027 --> 00:25:09,682
and she's in Reno
giving her first speech.
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00:25:09,769 --> 00:25:11,031
And she's giving a speech
on the alt-right,
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and Breitbart and Steve Bannon.
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00:25:13,033 --> 00:25:14,687
And I'm going,
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00:25:14,774 --> 00:25:16,340
"She's running for President
of the United States."
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00:25:16,427 --> 00:25:18,604
I said,
"She's walked into the trap."
469
00:25:18,691 --> 00:25:21,781
This is not conservatism
as we have known it.
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This is not republicanism
as we have known it.
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These are racist ideas,
race-baiting ideas,
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anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant,
anti-women,
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all key tenets making up
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the emerging racist ideology
known as the alt-right.
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A fringe element
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00:25:41,148 --> 00:25:44,151
that has effectively taken over
the Republican party.
477
00:25:44,238 --> 00:25:47,154
If she's going to preach
identity politics,
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and we preach
populism and jobs
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and bringing manufacturing
jobs back, we got it.
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For all their brilliance
and all their money
481
00:25:54,901 --> 00:25:56,816
and all their professionalism,
482
00:25:56,903 --> 00:25:59,993
they don't have an understanding
of what this election's about,
483
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,603
and that's when I knew
we had her.
484
00:26:01,690 --> 00:26:03,736
[man on phone]
Operator, operator.
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00:26:03,823 --> 00:26:06,695
[Bannon] You have to have
faith in your plan.
486
00:26:06,782 --> 00:26:08,436
That's one of the lessons
of Twelve O'Clock High.
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00:26:15,704 --> 00:26:17,576
[Morris] So this is war.
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00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:21,667
[Bannon]
It's absolutely war.
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00:26:21,754 --> 00:26:23,407
At that level of politics,
it's war.
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00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:26,497
You're fighting for control
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00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:28,021
of the greatest
country in the world.
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It's war.
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00:26:34,114 --> 00:26:37,770
War is three phases. Step one,
take the high moral ground,
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so you can motivate people
to fight. Number two...
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00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:44,385
leave a smoking hole
of where your enemy is,
496
00:26:44,472 --> 00:26:48,607
and number three, fill said hole
with your stuff and your values.
497
00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:52,480
We're doing debate prep.
498
00:26:52,567 --> 00:26:54,874
The Washington Post calls
Hope Hicks,
499
00:26:54,961 --> 00:26:57,616
gives her a transcript of some
audio that's going to come out.
500
00:27:00,314 --> 00:27:02,316
I talked to the,
I think the writer's editor,
501
00:27:02,403 --> 00:27:04,144
"Get us the audio
and let us check it,
502
00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:06,059
and we'll get back to you
sometime next week."
503
00:27:06,146 --> 00:27:10,237
And this guy said, "Hey, look,
it's going up in five minutes."
504
00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:12,065
[tweeting]
505
00:27:12,152 --> 00:27:14,502
"The authentication process
should be very quick."
506
00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:22,815
As soon as it went up I knew
it was going to be a huge issue.
507
00:27:22,902 --> 00:27:24,164
The Republican establishment,
508
00:27:24,251 --> 00:27:25,687
they were going
to cut Trump loose
509
00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:27,646
to focus on
the House and the Senate.
510
00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:30,605
We were going to do some sort of
video or something that night,
511
00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:32,607
which we didn't get out
until like midnight.
512
00:27:32,694 --> 00:27:35,088
People say it was
the hostage video.
513
00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:37,090
I've never said
I'm a perfect person,
514
00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:39,266
nor pretended to be
someone that I'm not.
515
00:27:39,353 --> 00:27:41,834
I've said and done
things I regret,
516
00:27:41,921 --> 00:27:45,098
and the words released today
on this than a decade-old video
517
00:27:45,185 --> 00:27:46,882
are one of them.
518
00:27:46,969 --> 00:27:49,624
There's a big difference
between the words and actions
519
00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:51,321
of other people.
520
00:27:51,408 --> 00:27:53,933
We will discuss this more
in the coming days.
521
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:56,022
See you at the debate
on Sunday.
522
00:27:58,198 --> 00:27:59,765
[camera clicking]
523
00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:01,854
[click]
524
00:28:03,725 --> 00:28:05,640
[click]
525
00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:07,294
[Bannon] On Saturday,
526
00:28:07,381 --> 00:28:09,818
we had called an all-hands
high command meeting
527
00:28:09,905 --> 00:28:13,213
to be in Trump Tower,
in the penthouse.
528
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,955
We kind of went around.
Christy and Rudy
529
00:28:16,042 --> 00:28:18,958
give a traditional
politician's response:
530
00:28:19,045 --> 00:28:20,568
"Let's call 60 Minutes,
531
00:28:20,655 --> 00:28:23,571
have Melania on one side
and Ivanka on the other,
532
00:28:23,658 --> 00:28:25,791
and you'll be in the middle,
and you'll beg forgiveness."
533
00:28:25,878 --> 00:28:28,750
I was sitting there
just thinking that
if he does that it's over.
534
00:28:28,837 --> 00:28:32,754
I said, "They don't care
about anything in Billy Bush.
535
00:28:32,841 --> 00:28:35,322
What they care about is they're
losing their country
536
00:28:35,409 --> 00:28:37,150
and they're losing
their jobs,
537
00:28:37,237 --> 00:28:38,673
and they're losing
their way of life.
538
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,980
And if they see you
as the instrument
539
00:28:41,067 --> 00:28:42,808
to reverse that,
540
00:28:42,895 --> 00:28:44,635
we're going to win
and we're going to win big.
541
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:47,682
You have a 100 percent
metaphysical certitude to win.
542
00:28:49,815 --> 00:28:51,251
What we ought to do
is have a rally.
543
00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:53,340
Let's go to the Hilton Hotel
544
00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:56,691
and get a thousand people
red hats,
545
00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:58,998
double down, triple down,
and let's just do it."
546
00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:03,089
This is not Steve Bannon
pushing him.
547
00:29:03,176 --> 00:29:05,091
His natural thing was to fight.
548
00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:08,572
The compromise was that we were
gonna go on ABC and David Muir
549
00:29:08,659 --> 00:29:10,792
and we were going to do
a live interview,
550
00:29:10,879 --> 00:29:13,273
have a middle ground between
sitting on the sofa
551
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,190
and apologizing and having
a rally where he basically said,
552
00:29:17,277 --> 00:29:20,236
"I don't care. I want
to talk about build a wall."
553
00:29:20,323 --> 00:29:23,022
And...
554
00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,372
as he got down
to the conference room,
555
00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:27,069
tried to practice, he said,
556
00:29:27,156 --> 00:29:29,071
"I can't do this.
And I'm not going to do this."
557
00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:33,119
Downstairs, there were thousands
of people in the streets.
558
00:29:35,861 --> 00:29:37,645
Many of them anti-Trump.
559
00:29:46,219 --> 00:29:47,873
But there were a lot of
Deplorables down there
560
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,613
in the red caps.
561
00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:55,054
He told the Secret Service right
there in the room, he goes,
562
00:29:55,141 --> 00:29:57,056
"I'm going down
and seeing my people."
563
00:29:57,143 --> 00:29:59,580
He just, he's going to go out
and hold a rally right there.
564
00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:03,149
[cheering, jeers]
565
00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:12,114
Donald Trump! Donald Trump!
566
00:30:22,342 --> 00:30:24,431
Are you staying in, Mr. Trump?
567
00:30:24,518 --> 00:30:30,611
-Are you staying in the race?
-100%.
568
00:30:30,698 --> 00:30:32,091
Governor Christie pulled me
aside and we had
569
00:30:32,178 --> 00:30:33,527
a little tête-à-tête.
570
00:30:33,614 --> 00:30:36,269
He blamed me
for being the enabler.
571
00:30:36,356 --> 00:30:37,792
What he had argued
up there was that
572
00:30:37,879 --> 00:30:38,924
this is not about
the campaign.
573
00:30:39,011 --> 00:30:40,664
The campaign's over.
574
00:30:40,751 --> 00:30:44,016
If you go down this path
of what this crazy guy's saying,
575
00:30:44,103 --> 00:30:46,279
you're going to not just
lose this campaign
576
00:30:46,366 --> 00:30:48,934
and lose it by a historic number
but you're going to,
577
00:30:49,021 --> 00:30:51,110
you're going to destroy
your brand.
578
00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:53,939
And it will have
massive impact afterwards.
579
00:30:54,026 --> 00:30:57,159
And so Christie and I got into
it, and I basically told him,
580
00:30:57,246 --> 00:30:59,814
"The plane leaves
at 11:00 tomorrow.
581
00:30:59,901 --> 00:31:01,860
"If you're on the plane,
you're on the team.
582
00:31:01,947 --> 00:31:03,035
You're not on the plane,
you're not on the team."
583
00:31:07,213 --> 00:31:10,216
[jet whining]
584
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,744
In that moment,
585
00:31:16,831 --> 00:31:21,488
I had people who would come
as first person testifiers
586
00:31:21,575 --> 00:31:25,361
of the actions of Bill Clinton
and her actions as an enabler,
587
00:31:25,448 --> 00:31:27,320
so I had personal witnesses.
588
00:31:27,407 --> 00:31:30,149
Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey
and others.
589
00:31:30,236 --> 00:31:32,194
At about 4:00 on Friday,
590
00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:34,675
I called up and made sure
that the women
591
00:31:34,762 --> 00:31:38,679
that were being filmed would be
actually in St. Louis on Sunday.
592
00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:41,247
[Morris] So it was your idea to
bring the women to the debate.
593
00:31:41,334 --> 00:31:42,770
Yeah, 100 percent, yes.
594
00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:56,566
Went up to candidate Trump.
"Here's the plan.
595
00:31:57,959 --> 00:31:59,787
We're going to open the door
596
00:31:59,874 --> 00:32:04,357
and let the pack of jackals
opposition party media come in,
597
00:32:04,444 --> 00:32:07,012
thinking they were seeing
the end of the debate prep,
598
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:09,623
and these women would
just hit 'em with a fuselage
599
00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:12,539
at one time of,
"Bill Clinton raped me."
600
00:32:12,626 --> 00:32:14,802
And he goes, "I love it."
601
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:19,546
He took his seat
in the middle.
602
00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,548
We open the door
to the media.
603
00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:22,941
They'd walked right
into the traps.
604
00:32:33,125 --> 00:32:34,822
You could tell,
it gave him confidence.
605
00:32:35,518 --> 00:32:37,216
Mr. Trump--
606
00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:39,044
Mr. Trump, you touched a woman
without her consent.
607
00:32:39,131 --> 00:32:41,002
Mr. Trump.
608
00:32:41,089 --> 00:32:43,613
Why'd you say you touch women
without consent, Mr. Trump?
609
00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,137
We're talking Bill Clinton now.
610
00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:47,226
Why don't you all go ask
Bill Clinton that?
611
00:32:47,313 --> 00:32:49,576
Go ahead, ask Hillary as well.
612
00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:53,797
[Bannon] The debate before,
they had allowed
613
00:32:53,884 --> 00:32:56,975
Mark Cuban to come down
and sit in his line of sight
614
00:32:57,062 --> 00:32:59,107
to glare at him the entire time.
615
00:32:59,194 --> 00:33:01,022
I said, "Just go get him,
and put him back
616
00:33:01,109 --> 00:33:03,416
"in the seat in darkness.
It's 10 rows back.
617
00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:05,505
It's simple, aisle seat,
10 rows."
618
00:33:05,592 --> 00:33:07,072
No, completely blown off.
619
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,944
So this time,
620
00:33:10,031 --> 00:33:11,337
we're gonna walk out
the four women,
621
00:33:11,424 --> 00:33:13,121
and put them in the VIP seats
622
00:33:13,208 --> 00:33:15,167
and make Bill Clinton,
on national TV, walk past 'em.
623
00:33:15,254 --> 00:33:18,083
And so we just told the guys,
"Hey, we got different VIPs."
624
00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:20,346
[tweeting]
625
00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:22,174
And they go, "Oh no, it's
impossible. You can't do that."
626
00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:28,789
"Dude, two weeks ago,
you gave me this speech
627
00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:31,792
about you don't have control
over security."
628
00:33:31,879 --> 00:33:34,186
"What's good for the goose
is good for the gander.
629
00:33:34,273 --> 00:33:36,710
They're going to sit in those
seats, and when he comes by,
630
00:33:36,797 --> 00:33:38,668
they're gonna say
whatever they're gonna say
631
00:33:38,755 --> 00:33:40,496
and you're gonna
live with it."
632
00:33:40,583 --> 00:33:43,673
And it got to be show time.
633
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:44,892
We've already
rattled them enough.
634
00:33:48,243 --> 00:33:50,898
We did jujutsu, and we turned
the Billy Bush thing around.
635
00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:20,014
It comes down to one or two,
636
00:34:20,101 --> 00:34:22,190
maybe three moments
the entire time,
637
00:34:22,277 --> 00:34:25,498
and you're gonna make a decision
under pressure in the moment
638
00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:26,890
and that decision is either
639
00:34:26,977 --> 00:34:28,153
gonna lead
to victory or defeat.
640
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,893
And if you pick
the wrong path,
641
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:31,678
you'll look back
in hindsight and see
642
00:34:31,765 --> 00:34:33,549
how your defeat came about.
643
00:34:35,334 --> 00:34:38,337
It wasn't a perfect campaign.
644
00:34:38,424 --> 00:34:40,382
There is no such thing.
645
00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:43,864
But I was on the way to winning
646
00:34:43,951 --> 00:34:48,173
until a combination of
Jim Comey's letter on October 28
647
00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:50,784
and Russian Wikileaks
648
00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:53,700
raised doubts
in the minds of people
649
00:34:53,787 --> 00:34:57,138
who were inclined to vote
for me, but got scared off.
650
00:34:57,225 --> 00:34:59,053
Ask yourself this.
651
00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:01,925
Within an hour or two
652
00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:06,365
of the Hollywood Access tape
being made public,
653
00:35:06,452 --> 00:35:10,282
the Russian theft of John
Podesta's e-mail hit Wikileaks.
654
00:35:11,848 --> 00:35:14,895
The reason why
I believe we lost
655
00:35:14,982 --> 00:35:17,637
were the intervening events
in the last ten days.
656
00:35:24,339 --> 00:35:27,603
This just came out.
This just came out.
657
00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,736
Wikileaks! I love Wikileaks.
658
00:35:33,392 --> 00:35:37,091
Hillary had no defense for her
secret speeches to Wall Street,
659
00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:39,398
at international banks
660
00:35:39,485 --> 00:35:43,663
that she hid from the public and
which were exposed by Wikileaks!
661
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:45,491
The FBI...
662
00:35:49,538 --> 00:35:52,019
has just sent a letter
to Congress...
663
00:35:53,499 --> 00:35:55,979
informing them
664
00:35:56,066 --> 00:35:58,112
that they have discovered
new e-mails
665
00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:06,425
pertaining to
the former Secretary of State,
666
00:36:06,512 --> 00:36:08,514
Hillary Clinton's
investigation.
667
00:36:09,906 --> 00:36:13,475
Lock her up! Lock her up!
668
00:36:13,562 --> 00:36:17,044
Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock!
669
00:36:31,711 --> 00:36:34,844
[Morris] What's interesting to
me about this whole election,
670
00:36:34,931 --> 00:36:39,153
the moment that her emails
became connected
671
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:44,289
with Anthony Weiner's dick pics,
she was done for.
672
00:36:44,376 --> 00:36:46,900
And you ran an ad,
it's basically,
673
00:36:46,987 --> 00:36:50,469
I guess you'd call it
from the Roy Cohn playbook.
674
00:36:50,556 --> 00:36:55,691
You call me a pervert, I'm not
a pervert, you're a pervert!
675
00:36:55,778 --> 00:36:58,259
Decades of lies,
cover-ups and scandal
676
00:36:58,346 --> 00:37:00,392
have finally caught up
with Hillary Clinton.
677
00:37:00,479 --> 00:37:04,004
Hillary Clinton is
under FBI investigation again,
678
00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:07,094
after her emails were found on
pervert Anthony Weiner's laptop.
679
00:37:07,181 --> 00:37:08,791
Think about that.
680
00:37:08,878 --> 00:37:11,316
America's most sensitive
secrets, unlawfully sent,
681
00:37:11,403 --> 00:37:13,666
received, and exposed
by Hillary Clinton,
682
00:37:13,753 --> 00:37:15,668
her staff,
and Anthony Weiner?
683
00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:17,322
Hillary cannot lead a nation
684
00:37:17,409 --> 00:37:20,325
while crippled by
a criminal investigation.
685
00:37:20,412 --> 00:37:23,066
Hillary Clinton,
unfit to serve.
686
00:37:23,153 --> 00:37:26,505
The 16 candidates
the Republicans had,
687
00:37:26,592 --> 00:37:28,071
whether you're a libertarian,
688
00:37:28,158 --> 00:37:29,682
whether you're a limited
government conservative,
689
00:37:29,769 --> 00:37:31,553
whether you're
a Heritage guy,
690
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:36,079
Rand Paul, Chris Christie,
Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio,
691
00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:38,430
all of them combined,
692
00:37:38,517 --> 00:37:40,954
could not have beaten
Hillary Clinton.
693
00:37:41,041 --> 00:37:42,608
It took
a blunt force instrument.
694
00:37:42,695 --> 00:37:44,523
He understands
that the modern world,
695
00:37:44,610 --> 00:37:45,698
particularly the modern
political world,
696
00:37:45,785 --> 00:37:48,091
has become media.
697
00:37:48,178 --> 00:37:50,746
The medium is the message,
and he understands that.
698
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:53,749
That's why he can speak in
a very plainspoken vernacular,
699
00:37:53,836 --> 00:37:55,273
not in political speak.
700
00:37:58,450 --> 00:37:59,625
He's an armor-piercing shell.
701
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:06,719
From the first day he came on
the campaign in June of 2015
702
00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:09,156
until today,
the news cycle's Trump.
703
00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:13,900
[Morris] He has taken over
people's brains.
704
00:38:13,987 --> 00:38:15,467
[Bannon laughing]
That he has.
705
00:38:21,342 --> 00:38:23,475
You could not be
politically correct
706
00:38:23,562 --> 00:38:26,956
and defeat the Clinton apparatus
or the Clinton junta.
707
00:38:27,043 --> 00:38:28,697
You need to be
a blunt force instrument.
708
00:38:28,784 --> 00:38:31,483
[Morris]
Do you really think that
she is more corrupt
709
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:34,747
than say, President Trump?
710
00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:37,967
I don't think Trump's corrupt.
I don't think he's corrupt.
711
00:38:38,054 --> 00:38:39,752
Now he's certainly--
I don't think he's corrupt.
712
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:41,362
He comes from outside
the government.
713
00:38:41,449 --> 00:38:43,756
He's a real estate guy.
714
00:38:43,843 --> 00:38:45,453
[Morris]
You can be corrupt
outside the government.
715
00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:50,415
[Bannon]
Has he been in lawsuits
and had bankruptcies?
716
00:38:50,502 --> 00:38:52,330
That's the real estate
business.
717
00:39:07,867 --> 00:39:10,696
[Bannon] One of the keys to
the campaign was, giving people
718
00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:12,611
permission to vote for him?
719
00:39:12,698 --> 00:39:17,398
Right? At the end, I think there
was up to, like, 15 to 18%,
720
00:39:17,485 --> 00:39:19,966
some huge number,
that had come to the conclusion
721
00:39:20,053 --> 00:39:22,229
they didn't like
either candidate.
722
00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:26,494
That broke, I think, something
like two-thirds to Trump.
723
00:39:26,581 --> 00:39:28,409
These are people that voted that
didn't like either candidate,
724
00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,368
but picked
the lesser of two evils,
725
00:39:30,455 --> 00:39:32,457
or the agent of change.
726
00:39:32,544 --> 00:39:36,548
What our job is, as a people,
727
00:39:36,635 --> 00:39:39,159
is to tell the establishment,
728
00:39:39,246 --> 00:39:42,510
the big money interests, the
wealthy campaign contributors,
729
00:39:42,597 --> 00:39:46,993
the Congress, is
the status quo is not working
730
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:52,041
for working Americans,
and we demand change.
731
00:39:52,128 --> 00:39:57,351
[Morris] If you had been Bernie
Sanders' campaign director,
732
00:39:57,438 --> 00:39:59,092
would he have won?
733
00:39:59,179 --> 00:40:01,268
He would have definitely
been taking on Donald Trump
734
00:40:01,355 --> 00:40:03,923
as the Democratic nominee,
there's no doubt about that.
735
00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:05,838
Look at the crowds
he was drawing.
736
00:40:05,925 --> 00:40:07,579
It wasn't that
he didn't have the enthusiasm.
737
00:40:07,666 --> 00:40:09,494
Look what he did
with the Millennials.
738
00:40:09,581 --> 00:40:15,543
[Morris] I can't tell you
how annoyed my son is with me
739
00:40:15,630 --> 00:40:18,894
for voting for Hillary
in the primaries.
740
00:40:18,981 --> 00:40:23,246
My God, you just crushed me.
How did you do that?
741
00:40:23,333 --> 00:40:24,770
How did you possibly
vote for Hillary Clinton?
742
00:40:24,857 --> 00:40:26,380
I'm kind of shocked now.
743
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:29,296
How could you possibly
make Fog of War,
744
00:40:29,383 --> 00:40:31,733
and how could you make,
what, Known Unknowns,
745
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:34,954
how could you make this and
then vote for Hillary Clinton?
746
00:40:35,041 --> 00:40:36,564
-Because I was--
-We are...
747
00:40:36,651 --> 00:40:37,957
[Morris] You're asking me.
It's a question!
748
00:40:38,044 --> 00:40:39,480
We got to swap places now.
749
00:40:39,567 --> 00:40:42,483
Yeah, because I was afraid
of you guys.
750
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,267
I still am.
751
00:40:46,661 --> 00:40:52,798
I thought that
she was the best hope
752
00:40:52,885 --> 00:40:55,278
of defeating Trump.
753
00:40:58,804 --> 00:41:00,240
And Bannon.
754
00:41:02,068 --> 00:41:03,983
I did it out of fear.
755
00:41:06,246 --> 00:41:08,466
I don't know how better
to describe it.
756
00:41:14,210 --> 00:41:16,474
We're at the very
beginning stages
757
00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:18,911
of a very brutal
and bloody conflict,
758
00:41:18,998 --> 00:41:20,826
of which
if the people in this room
759
00:41:20,913 --> 00:41:22,958
and the people in the church
do not bind together
760
00:41:23,045 --> 00:41:24,656
and really for what I feel
761
00:41:24,743 --> 00:41:26,962
is an aspect
of the Church Militant,
762
00:41:27,049 --> 00:41:30,009
to really be able to not
just stand with our beliefs
763
00:41:30,096 --> 00:41:31,663
but to fight for our beliefs
764
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:34,361
against this new barbarity
that's starting,
765
00:41:34,448 --> 00:41:37,103
that we will literally
eradicate everything
766
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:42,456
that we've been bequeathed over
the last 2,000 to 2,500 years.
767
00:41:42,543 --> 00:41:45,285
But we are in an outright war
768
00:41:45,372 --> 00:41:49,115
against jihadist Islam,
Islamic fascism.
769
00:41:58,298 --> 00:42:01,127
[Morris] What I'd like to do is
retrace how you became involved
770
00:42:01,214 --> 00:42:02,955
in all of this,
771
00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,523
from I guess the beginnings.
772
00:42:06,654 --> 00:42:08,003
You're a filmmaker.
773
00:42:09,875 --> 00:42:13,792
Then you're the executive
chairman of Breitbart.
774
00:42:13,879 --> 00:42:18,840
Then you're the head
of the Trump campaign,
775
00:42:18,927 --> 00:42:23,062
and then you're
a central advisor
776
00:42:23,149 --> 00:42:24,977
to the President
of the United States.
777
00:42:25,064 --> 00:42:26,848
It's quite a trajectory.
778
00:42:29,503 --> 00:42:31,897
So let's go back to the
beginning. How did this start?
779
00:42:34,943 --> 00:42:38,512
You tell the story
of the current war you're in
780
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:40,558
by talking about
previous wars.
781
00:42:42,429 --> 00:42:44,431
And I'll use Reagan
as the insurance.
782
00:42:46,607 --> 00:42:48,435
And I'll tell the story
783
00:42:48,522 --> 00:42:51,090
about how we have to confront
radical Islamic terrorism.
784
00:42:54,267 --> 00:42:56,356
I said,
"This is a real enemy.
785
00:42:56,443 --> 00:42:58,750
It's a real enemy
that can inspire,
786
00:42:58,837 --> 00:43:00,578
just like in
Twelve O'Clock High.
787
00:43:03,363 --> 00:43:06,192
And so I made
In the Face of Evilin 2004.
788
00:43:08,107 --> 00:43:09,761
[woman]
Ronald Reagan was the product
789
00:43:09,848 --> 00:43:12,067
of the Hollywood studio system.
790
00:43:12,154 --> 00:43:13,721
A system that took the story
791
00:43:13,808 --> 00:43:16,115
of the immigrants
and pioneers' efforts
792
00:43:16,202 --> 00:43:18,944
to forge a country
from a vast wilderness,
793
00:43:19,031 --> 00:43:21,860
and turned it
into a heroic struggle.
794
00:43:21,947 --> 00:43:25,690
Order versus chaos,
good versus evil,
795
00:43:25,777 --> 00:43:28,562
translating western
civilizations' legends
796
00:43:28,649 --> 00:43:33,132
into simple stories that
embodied the reluctant hero.
797
00:43:33,219 --> 00:43:36,614
These stories defined
what it meant to be a man,
798
00:43:38,006 --> 00:43:40,095
what it took to be a hero.
799
00:43:41,662 --> 00:43:44,970
That freedom
is a fragile thing.
800
00:43:45,057 --> 00:43:48,626
That evil is powerless
if the good are unafraid.
801
00:43:53,674 --> 00:43:55,154
When the film was shown
802
00:43:55,241 --> 00:43:56,982
at this conservative
Hollywood film festival,
803
00:43:57,069 --> 00:43:58,592
it got like
a 10-minute standing ovation
804
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,899
at the end, and some
huge bear of a guy
805
00:44:00,986 --> 00:44:03,902
comes barreling out of
the audience and embraces me.
806
00:44:03,989 --> 00:44:05,817
He says, "We've got
to take the culture back
807
00:44:05,904 --> 00:44:07,166
and culture's
upriver from politics."
808
00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:08,907
And I said, "Who is this guy?
809
00:44:08,994 --> 00:44:12,258
This guy is like a giant of
a man and full of life.
810
00:44:12,345 --> 00:44:14,086
It was Andrew Breitbart.
811
00:44:17,002 --> 00:44:18,917
For five years
I didn't make a film,
812
00:44:19,004 --> 00:44:20,832
and then I saw
the financial crisis.
813
00:44:20,919 --> 00:44:22,964
I came up with the idea
of telling the story
814
00:44:23,051 --> 00:44:27,447
to Generation Z.
815
00:44:27,534 --> 00:44:29,623
We're going to make
an avant-garde film
816
00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:31,451
for right-wingers.
817
00:44:33,018 --> 00:44:34,541
Now, history teaches
818
00:44:34,628 --> 00:44:37,283
that usually third
turnings finally issue
819
00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:39,459
into a fourth turning.
820
00:44:39,546 --> 00:44:41,809
And a fourth turning
is the crisis.
821
00:44:41,896 --> 00:44:43,985
And history shows
that if an event
822
00:44:44,072 --> 00:44:46,292
doesn't trigger
a fourth turning,
823
00:44:46,379 --> 00:44:48,120
a fourth turning leader
will actually
824
00:44:48,207 --> 00:44:49,687
encourage one to happen.
825
00:44:49,774 --> 00:44:51,732
Or one will simply hit us
826
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:54,822
because of all the deferred
public decisions
827
00:44:54,909 --> 00:44:57,216
that weren't made during
the recent third turning.
828
00:44:57,303 --> 00:45:00,306
This comes to a head
in the fourth turning.
829
00:45:00,393 --> 00:45:04,179
I wanted to show it
to conservative thought leaders
830
00:45:04,266 --> 00:45:06,007
before we released it,
831
00:45:06,094 --> 00:45:08,749
and so I went to see
Andrew Breitbart.
832
00:45:08,836 --> 00:45:13,798
He had started this blog site
called Breitbart.
833
00:45:13,885 --> 00:45:16,409
He said, "We're really trying
to turn it into a business,
834
00:45:16,496 --> 00:45:17,976
and I know you're
an investment banker..."
835
00:45:18,063 --> 00:45:19,151
And I said,
"Look, if you ever need any help
836
00:45:19,238 --> 00:45:20,761
putting together
a business plan,
837
00:45:20,848 --> 00:45:22,545
or just thinking about
financing, let's talk."
838
00:45:22,632 --> 00:45:25,244
He said, "I'd love to. I'd love
to have somebody do that."
839
00:45:25,331 --> 00:45:27,768
And so he said,
"How about tomorrow?"
840
00:45:27,855 --> 00:45:31,206
And I said, "Sure. Where
are you guys headquartered?"
841
00:45:31,293 --> 00:45:33,252
And he goes,
"In my basement."
842
00:45:33,339 --> 00:45:35,167
And we're sitting
in the main room,
843
00:45:35,254 --> 00:45:36,777
I hadn't seen
a lot of activity.
844
00:45:36,864 --> 00:45:38,344
It was an old blog site.
845
00:45:38,431 --> 00:45:40,085
It was just kind of
a rudimentary site,
846
00:45:40,172 --> 00:45:41,695
that put up,
you know, stories.
847
00:45:41,782 --> 00:45:43,523
We were going
to build an entire new site
848
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:46,178
that Andrew had thought
through from scratch.
849
00:45:46,265 --> 00:45:49,790
As often happens
in life, we were late.
850
00:45:49,877 --> 00:45:53,838
Andrew had a lot of changes.
We needed 90 more days.
851
00:45:53,925 --> 00:45:56,623
Now, the year before
852
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:58,930
Andrew had called
in the middle of the night
853
00:45:59,017 --> 00:46:02,368
and he said, "I feel like
I got a Volkswagen on my chest."
854
00:46:02,455 --> 00:46:06,807
He had genetic problems
with his heart,
855
00:46:06,894 --> 00:46:08,287
and he was in for four days
and given
856
00:46:08,374 --> 00:46:09,592
a whole regimen
of things to do.
857
00:46:11,551 --> 00:46:13,466
Of course, Andrew
didn't do any of it.
858
00:46:13,553 --> 00:46:16,861
Ho-ho! CPAC has got to go.
Hey, hey!
859
00:46:16,948 --> 00:46:20,081
Behave yourself!
860
00:46:20,168 --> 00:46:22,257
-You are freaks and animals.
-Chill!
861
00:46:22,344 --> 00:46:25,217
You're freaks and animals!
Behave yourself!
862
00:46:28,829 --> 00:46:30,439
Behave yourself?
Learn to behave yourself first.
863
00:46:30,526 --> 00:46:34,400
Stop raping people!
Stop raping! Stop raping!
864
00:46:34,487 --> 00:46:36,881
Stop raping people!
865
00:46:36,968 --> 00:46:39,884
Stop raping the people!
866
00:46:39,971 --> 00:46:43,322
You freaks! You filthy freaks!
867
00:46:43,409 --> 00:46:46,238
You filthy, filthy, filthy,
868
00:46:46,325 --> 00:46:48,806
raping, murdering freaks!
869
00:46:50,851 --> 00:46:52,897
[Bannon]
We had this old warehouse.
870
00:46:52,984 --> 00:46:55,160
He would work every night there
until like 10 or 11 o'clock,
871
00:46:55,247 --> 00:46:58,250
and there was a restaurant
that was open until midnight
872
00:46:58,337 --> 00:47:00,078
and he would go to the bar
and have a quick bite to eat
873
00:47:00,165 --> 00:47:01,427
before going home.
874
00:47:01,514 --> 00:47:03,908
Sat next to a guy
and has dinner,
875
00:47:03,995 --> 00:47:06,258
paid his bill,
shook this guy's hand,
876
00:47:06,345 --> 00:47:09,522
walked outside to get his car
877
00:47:09,609 --> 00:47:10,653
and dropped dead
right on the street
878
00:47:10,740 --> 00:47:12,046
in front of the restaurant.
879
00:47:12,133 --> 00:47:14,353
Dead by the time
he hit the pavement.
880
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,137
Talked to his widow Susie.
881
00:47:16,224 --> 00:47:19,097
She said, "Hey, he's dedicated
his life to this site.
882
00:47:19,184 --> 00:47:22,970
On Sunday night at 8:00, make
sure the curtain comes up."
883
00:47:23,057 --> 00:47:26,931
And that was the beginning
of the weaponized platform
884
00:47:27,018 --> 00:47:28,933
that was the backbone
of the populist media.
885
00:47:33,763 --> 00:47:37,028
You have someone who comes along
once in a generation.
886
00:47:37,115 --> 00:47:39,465
He knew new media.
887
00:47:39,552 --> 00:47:44,165
He had this strong sense
of how people come to the news
888
00:47:44,252 --> 00:47:45,775
in a different way.
889
00:47:45,863 --> 00:47:48,300
And he really had this
extraordinary vision
890
00:47:48,387 --> 00:47:50,955
of what he wanted to do
with Breitbart.
891
00:47:51,042 --> 00:47:53,218
[Morris] You also had some
deeper understanding
892
00:47:53,305 --> 00:47:54,480
of the Internet.
893
00:47:54,567 --> 00:47:56,874
-Can we talk about IGE?
-Yeah.
894
00:48:00,007 --> 00:48:01,661
In the early 2000s,
895
00:48:01,748 --> 00:48:03,968
Wall Street was already
thinking through
896
00:48:04,055 --> 00:48:06,840
this whole concept
of alternative currencies
897
00:48:06,927 --> 00:48:10,583
coming out of massively
multiplayer video games.
898
00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:13,151
World of Warcraft
was one of them.
899
00:48:13,238 --> 00:48:15,762
Gold is generated, or things
are generated in that game,
900
00:48:15,849 --> 00:48:17,720
and there's a massive
aftermarket for it.
901
00:48:17,807 --> 00:48:20,158
And so investment banks,
sophisticated investment banks
902
00:48:20,245 --> 00:48:21,768
like Goldman Sachs,
903
00:48:21,855 --> 00:48:23,335
were always
on the lookout for
904
00:48:23,422 --> 00:48:24,510
what were
alternative currencies?
905
00:48:24,597 --> 00:48:26,338
We bought like 35 exchanges.
906
00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:29,254
[Morris] Thirty-five exchanges,
what does that mean?
907
00:48:30,777 --> 00:48:34,694
People need weapons,
they need spells,
908
00:48:34,781 --> 00:48:37,566
so the gold
is an alternative currency.
909
00:48:39,786 --> 00:48:44,008
The aftermarket trading of that
is tens of billions of dollars.
910
00:48:45,792 --> 00:48:47,620
If you went to Kowloon,
if you went to Hong Kong
911
00:48:47,707 --> 00:48:49,013
in the early days,
you'd walk out,
912
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:50,579
it was a trading floor.
913
00:48:52,973 --> 00:48:56,934
Of the 250 employees,
245 were young men.
914
00:48:57,021 --> 00:48:59,937
They're in games,
generating gold.
915
00:49:02,374 --> 00:49:04,071
I became the interim CEO.
916
00:49:04,158 --> 00:49:06,900
We were generating a tremendous
amount of cash per month
917
00:49:06,987 --> 00:49:08,728
and then all of a sudden
918
00:49:08,815 --> 00:49:11,557
several million accounts
were wiped off
919
00:49:11,644 --> 00:49:13,298
by the game manufacturer.
920
00:49:13,385 --> 00:49:14,777
The game manufacturer
basically, said,
921
00:49:14,864 --> 00:49:16,388
"If you show up with
a social security number
922
00:49:16,475 --> 00:49:19,130
or a country ID to show
that you're a real person,
923
00:49:19,217 --> 00:49:20,305
you get your gold back."
924
00:49:23,003 --> 00:49:25,005
Well, that wipe off was,
925
00:49:25,092 --> 00:49:27,225
let's say in the neighborhood
of 90 million dollars.
926
00:49:30,532 --> 00:49:32,404
This was just not
an alternative currency,
927
00:49:32,491 --> 00:49:34,145
it was a currency currency.
928
00:49:34,232 --> 00:49:36,582
And so Stephen K. Bannon,
you got us into this,
929
00:49:36,669 --> 00:49:38,062
and now help sort it out.
930
00:49:38,149 --> 00:49:41,239
And the one thing
that struck me is...
931
00:49:41,326 --> 00:49:42,762
because I'm not
a video game person,
932
00:49:42,849 --> 00:49:44,982
I've never played
a video game in my life,
933
00:49:45,069 --> 00:49:46,244
never played a video game.
934
00:49:46,331 --> 00:49:49,073
And I said, "Wow,
935
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,466
people spend an awful lot
of time in these video games.
936
00:49:51,553 --> 00:49:54,252
35, 40, 45, 50 hours a week,
937
00:49:54,339 --> 00:49:58,256
people with incomes of 75, 80,
$100,000 with wives and kids."
938
00:50:01,085 --> 00:50:03,087
Now I don't know
that this happened or not,
939
00:50:03,174 --> 00:50:05,872
but there's a guy, Dave,
940
00:50:07,221 --> 00:50:09,310
in the accounts payable
department.
941
00:50:09,397 --> 00:50:11,530
He weighs 250 pounds.
942
00:50:11,617 --> 00:50:14,663
He drops dead of a heart attack
in his cubicle.
943
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:17,362
He's got a wife and two kids
who don't really know him.
944
00:50:17,449 --> 00:50:19,103
Some preacher from a church
945
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:21,279
or some guy from the funeral
home that has never met him
946
00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:25,022
does a ten minute eulogy,
says a few prayers,
947
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:27,676
and they've got one of
these perpetual cemeteries,
948
00:50:27,763 --> 00:50:30,331
and Dave's urn
goes down there.
949
00:50:30,418 --> 00:50:32,203
And that's Dave.
950
00:50:32,290 --> 00:50:34,901
Dave in the game, he's Ajax.
951
00:50:36,294 --> 00:50:38,470
And Ajax is like the man.
952
00:50:38,557 --> 00:50:41,473
When it comes to burying Ajax,
953
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,475
they're going to put him
on a caisson,
954
00:50:43,562 --> 00:50:45,694
and they're going to take it up
for a funeral pyre,
955
00:50:45,781 --> 00:50:47,740
and they're going
to burn the digital Ajax.
956
00:50:47,827 --> 00:50:50,395
There's literally
thousands of people there.
957
00:50:52,745 --> 00:50:56,401
Their rival group,
that hates these guys,
958
00:50:56,488 --> 00:50:59,099
attacks the funeral thing.
959
00:50:59,186 --> 00:51:00,405
People are home
playing the game,
960
00:51:00,492 --> 00:51:02,102
and guys are not going to work
961
00:51:02,189 --> 00:51:04,235
and women are not going to work,
because it's Ajax.
962
00:51:06,106 --> 00:51:07,673
Now who's more real,
963
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,067
Dave, in accounting,
that's in the urn,
964
00:51:10,154 --> 00:51:12,373
his analog self,
or is it Ajax?
965
00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:15,507
People take on
these digital selves
966
00:51:15,594 --> 00:51:18,510
that are a more perfected
version of themselves
967
00:51:18,597 --> 00:51:20,207
and where they
can control things
968
00:51:20,294 --> 00:51:23,254
in a digital way that
they can't in the analog world.
969
00:51:26,605 --> 00:51:29,042
Remember John Ford,
970
00:51:29,129 --> 00:51:30,522
My Darling Clementine?
971
00:51:32,524 --> 00:51:36,789
That's an idealized version
of the American West.
972
00:51:36,876 --> 00:51:39,922
That's what these digital
communities provide to people.
973
00:51:41,663 --> 00:51:44,927
That's what it provided to Ajax
and not Dave.
974
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:55,068
Singing, "Shall We Gather at the River."
975
00:51:58,550 --> 00:51:59,899
That eventually
became my idea
976
00:51:59,986 --> 00:52:02,119
for the comments section
of Breitbart,
977
00:52:02,206 --> 00:52:03,729
which built
the Breitbart community,
978
00:52:03,816 --> 00:52:06,384
and is not for
the faint of heart.
979
00:52:06,471 --> 00:52:09,300
This became more of a community
than the city they live in,
980
00:52:09,387 --> 00:52:11,737
or the town they live in,
that the old bowling league,
981
00:52:11,824 --> 00:52:14,566
the old Kiwanis Club,
the old softball team
982
00:52:14,653 --> 00:52:17,308
to a large extent
was being replaced by this.
983
00:52:17,395 --> 00:52:20,224
[Morris] You brought the old
bowling league to Breitbart?
984
00:52:20,311 --> 00:52:22,139
It's like sedimentary rock.
985
00:52:22,226 --> 00:52:25,185
The key to these sites
was the comments section.
986
00:52:25,272 --> 00:52:27,144
This could be weaponized
at some point in time.
987
00:52:30,756 --> 00:52:33,411
The angry voices
988
00:52:33,498 --> 00:52:35,587
properly directed
989
00:52:35,674 --> 00:52:38,111
have latent political power.
990
00:52:42,724 --> 00:52:44,944
Caught the Republican Party
completely unaware
991
00:52:45,031 --> 00:52:48,600
and drove much
of the momentum of Trump
992
00:52:48,687 --> 00:52:50,776
and also added
to the traffic of Breitbart
993
00:52:50,863 --> 00:52:52,691
and to Breitbart's
prominence and power.
994
00:53:06,748 --> 00:53:08,272
He's very superstitious.
995
00:53:08,359 --> 00:53:09,882
There was no concession
speech written,
996
00:53:09,969 --> 00:53:11,449
and there was
no victory speech written.
997
00:53:11,536 --> 00:53:12,667
Wouldn't do it.
998
00:53:19,718 --> 00:53:21,633
[Trump] I look very much...
999
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:25,289
forward to being
your President.
1000
00:53:25,376 --> 00:53:30,685
And I can only say that
while the campaign is over,
1001
00:53:30,772 --> 00:53:34,472
our work on this movement
is now really just beginning.
1002
00:53:36,735 --> 00:53:38,867
Remember, at five o'clock
in the evening.
1003
00:53:38,954 --> 00:53:42,480
we're told we're going to lose
in a historic landslide.
1004
00:53:42,567 --> 00:53:44,699
I think on those exit polls
1005
00:53:44,786 --> 00:53:47,180
she wins something
like 400 electoral votes
1006
00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:50,879
and the House and the Senate
and the Supreme Court
1007
00:53:50,966 --> 00:53:54,274
and life is changed
in perpetuity.
1008
00:53:54,361 --> 00:53:56,581
That's eight hours before.
1009
00:54:02,413 --> 00:54:04,893
Every newsroom is getting ready
and they're all high-fiving
1010
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:06,852
and Megyn Kelly's
got that big smirk on her face,
1011
00:54:06,939 --> 00:54:09,420
like, "Oh, this is going to be
over at eight o'clock."
1012
00:54:12,466 --> 00:54:16,514
You know, Miller and Bannon
and the others at 2:30,
1013
00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:19,778
we're not sitting there saying,
"Let's have a group hug."
1014
00:54:19,865 --> 00:54:22,520
Saying you know
1015
00:54:22,607 --> 00:54:25,697
We just did it, and now we're
gonna march on the Capitol.
1016
00:54:25,784 --> 00:54:27,960
Throw out all of them,
1017
00:54:28,047 --> 00:54:31,268
I mean drop the hammer.
That's how we won.
1018
00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:32,617
That's what people voted for.
1019
00:54:32,704 --> 00:54:35,924
And it was Donald Trump
that said,
1020
00:54:36,011 --> 00:54:37,317
"I think what we ought
to try to tonight
1021
00:54:37,404 --> 00:54:39,363
"is bring people together.
1022
00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:41,278
Let's de-escalate."
1023
00:54:42,801 --> 00:54:44,759
Couple days later,
1024
00:54:44,846 --> 00:54:46,283
the resistance is
in the streets.
1025
00:54:50,809 --> 00:54:52,898
The signs and people
are so upset about this thing.
1026
00:54:58,251 --> 00:55:00,732
He actually said,
"I thought it'd be different.
1027
00:55:02,908 --> 00:55:04,518
I thought the New York Times
1028
00:55:04,605 --> 00:55:07,260
would be wishing me well
and everything like that."
1029
00:55:07,347 --> 00:55:10,611
And I said, "You do
understand they hate you.
1030
00:55:10,698 --> 00:55:13,092
They literally detest you.
1031
00:55:13,179 --> 00:55:15,790
Everything you ran on,
everything you stand for...
1032
00:55:17,226 --> 00:55:18,793
everything you won on.
1033
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,405
And the people
that support you they detest.
1034
00:55:21,492 --> 00:55:23,755
This is gonna be
trench warfare every day."
1035
00:55:23,842 --> 00:55:26,410
And by the way, I'm the enabler
and I take great pride in it,
1036
00:55:26,497 --> 00:55:28,586
that just,
"Here's what we ran on,
1037
00:55:28,673 --> 00:55:30,196
"here's what we said
we're gonna do.
1038
00:55:30,283 --> 00:55:32,590
"Let's just do it.
You're not a politician.
1039
00:55:32,677 --> 00:55:34,505
"You're a leader.
Don't act like a politician.
1040
00:55:34,592 --> 00:55:37,116
"Just do it.
1041
00:55:37,203 --> 00:55:38,813
"Build the wall.
1042
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:42,426
"Eradicate ISIS, right?
1043
00:55:42,513 --> 00:55:44,689
"Get manufacturing jobs
back here.
1044
00:55:44,776 --> 00:55:46,125
"Confront China.
1045
00:55:46,212 --> 00:55:47,692
"Get us out of Afghanistan.
1046
00:55:47,779 --> 00:55:49,258
"Get us out of Iraq.
1047
00:55:49,346 --> 00:55:50,695
Just do what you said
you're gonna do."
1048
00:55:58,398 --> 00:56:01,532
[Morris]
The inaugural address...
1049
00:56:01,619 --> 00:56:04,230
"American carnage,"
did you write that?
1050
00:56:05,536 --> 00:56:06,841
The President wrote that.
1051
00:56:07,407 --> 00:56:08,669
Come on.
1052
00:56:08,756 --> 00:56:10,802
It's President Trump's speech.
1053
00:56:10,889 --> 00:56:12,456
The only thing I told Miller
1054
00:56:12,543 --> 00:56:15,633
is we should have
the podium turned around.
1055
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:17,722
Trump should address it
1056
00:56:17,809 --> 00:56:20,725
to all the elites in Washington
D.C. sitting in back of him.
1057
00:56:20,812 --> 00:56:22,640
If you look at the inner cities
in this country,
1058
00:56:22,727 --> 00:56:25,251
if you look at the industrial
heartland of this country,
1059
00:56:25,338 --> 00:56:26,774
there has been carnage.
1060
00:56:26,861 --> 00:56:28,515
Globalization has
brought carnage with it.
1061
00:56:28,602 --> 00:56:30,082
And it's got to be called that.
1062
00:56:30,169 --> 00:56:31,649
The people that are
most offended about that
1063
00:56:31,736 --> 00:56:33,390
is the mainstream media
and the globalists.
1064
00:56:33,477 --> 00:56:35,130
Bush hated the speech.
1065
00:56:35,217 --> 00:56:36,828
He said later, "That
thing's crazy" or something.
1066
00:56:36,915 --> 00:56:38,743
He made some really
derogatory comment.
1067
00:56:45,532 --> 00:56:47,882
[Trump] Everyone is listening
to you now.
1068
00:56:50,102 --> 00:56:52,713
You came
by the tens of millions,
1069
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,673
to become part of
a historic movement,
1070
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,373
the likes of which the world
has never seen before.
1071
00:57:05,465 --> 00:57:07,859
At the center of this movement
1072
00:57:07,946 --> 00:57:10,470
is a crucial conviction
1073
00:57:10,557 --> 00:57:14,561
that a nation exists
to serve its citizens.
1074
00:57:17,346 --> 00:57:20,567
Americans want great schools
for their children,
1075
00:57:20,654 --> 00:57:23,048
safe neighborhoods
for their families,
1076
00:57:23,135 --> 00:57:25,703
and good jobs
for themselves.
1077
00:57:33,145 --> 00:57:39,847
These are just and reasonable
demands of righteous people.
1078
00:57:43,721 --> 00:57:45,592
But for too many
of our citizens,
1079
00:57:45,679 --> 00:57:48,334
a different reality exists.
1080
00:57:48,421 --> 00:57:52,730
Mothers and children trapped
in poverty in our inner cities.
1081
00:57:52,817 --> 00:57:54,993
Rusted-out factories
1082
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,648
scattered like tombstones
across the landscape.
1083
00:58:02,174 --> 00:58:06,265
An education system
flush with cash,
1084
00:58:06,352 --> 00:58:09,094
but which leaves our young
and beautiful students
1085
00:58:09,181 --> 00:58:11,662
deprived of all knowledge.
1086
00:58:16,536 --> 00:58:20,584
And the crime and the gangs
and the drugs
1087
00:58:20,671 --> 00:58:24,196
that have stolen too many lives
and robbed our country
1088
00:58:24,283 --> 00:58:27,460
of so much
unrealized potential.
1089
00:58:33,031 --> 00:58:37,818
This American carnage
stops right here
1090
00:58:37,905 --> 00:58:40,691
and stops right now.
1091
00:58:52,746 --> 00:58:54,487
[Morris]
Do you ever see yourself
1092
00:58:54,574 --> 00:58:58,622
just hastening the end
of everything?
1093
00:58:58,709 --> 00:59:00,362
I don't think
we've hastened enough.
1094
00:59:00,449 --> 00:59:02,060
We're either going to make
some fundamental changes
1095
00:59:02,147 --> 00:59:04,192
or you're going
to have a revolution.
1096
00:59:04,279 --> 00:59:07,979
People say I'm apocalyptic.
I think I'm just a rationalist.
1097
00:59:08,066 --> 00:59:10,372
I foresaw someone
like Trump coming along.
1098
00:59:10,459 --> 00:59:12,200
People say,
"Oh, this was so unexpected."
1099
00:59:12,287 --> 00:59:15,073
No, this wasn't unexpected.
It was clear as daylight.
1100
00:59:20,426 --> 00:59:22,994
[Morris] Can't you be
an apocalyptic rationalist?
1101
00:59:23,081 --> 00:59:27,172
I am an apocalyptic
rationalist.
1102
00:59:27,259 --> 00:59:29,348
I'm not an apocalyptic
emotionalist. I'm a rationalist.
1103
00:59:29,435 --> 00:59:30,784
I'm saying,
if we don't make changes,
1104
00:59:30,871 --> 00:59:31,829
we're going
to have an apocalypse.
1105
00:59:31,916 --> 00:59:32,917
Let's make some changes.
1106
00:59:43,188 --> 00:59:46,060
Do you know what
will happen to me
1107
00:59:46,147 --> 00:59:48,062
if the bridge is
not ready in time?
1108
00:59:48,149 --> 00:59:50,021
I haven't the foggiest.
1109
00:59:50,108 --> 00:59:53,024
I'll have to kill myself.
1110
00:59:53,111 --> 00:59:56,201
What would you do
if you were me?
1111
00:59:56,288 --> 00:59:58,464
I suppose, if I were you,
1112
00:59:59,639 --> 01:00:01,467
I'd have to kill myself.
1113
01:00:03,730 --> 01:00:05,123
Cheers.
1114
01:00:09,214 --> 01:00:11,129
It gets back to the concept
of dharma, right?
1115
01:00:11,216 --> 01:00:16,047
It's his, it's his duty,
his destiny, his fate,
1116
01:00:16,134 --> 01:00:18,876
and his obligation,
1117
01:00:18,963 --> 01:00:21,226
he thinks, to get
his men through this.
1118
01:00:21,313 --> 01:00:23,707
I will create
1119
01:00:23,794 --> 01:00:26,753
civilization in the middle
of the horrors of a prison camp
1120
01:00:28,712 --> 01:00:32,150
hundreds of miles
from civilization.
1121
01:00:40,985 --> 01:00:42,595
Walking on the bridge
1122
01:00:42,682 --> 01:00:46,599
on the evening
before it's finished,
1123
01:00:46,686 --> 01:00:48,035
he talks about
his life in India,
1124
01:00:48,122 --> 01:00:50,821
talks about his life
as an officer,
1125
01:00:50,908 --> 01:00:53,475
"What is this all about?"
1126
01:00:53,562 --> 01:00:55,782
He's really talking
about dharma,
1127
01:00:55,869 --> 01:00:58,002
did I accomplish anything,
1128
01:00:58,089 --> 01:01:00,744
did my life have any purpose,
did my life have any meaning?
1129
01:01:00,831 --> 01:01:03,181
His swagger stick falls out
of his hand
1130
01:01:03,268 --> 01:01:06,097
and falls into the River Kwai,
1131
01:01:06,184 --> 01:01:08,621
and he says, "Oh, these are the
thoughts that cloud one's head."
1132
01:01:14,235 --> 01:01:17,021
[Morris]
That's why I find the movies
you've picked so interesting.
1133
01:01:20,024 --> 01:01:21,329
In many of them,
1134
01:01:21,416 --> 01:01:24,332
the hero has
some utter collapse.
1135
01:01:26,117 --> 01:01:28,859
In Twelve O'Clock High,
1136
01:01:28,946 --> 01:01:30,556
Gregory Peck just...
1137
01:01:31,862 --> 01:01:32,993
It breaks him.
1138
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,995
-It breaks him.
-Yeah.
1139
01:01:36,954 --> 01:01:38,695
This is different.
1140
01:01:40,479 --> 01:01:44,962
Alec Guinness,
in his desire to adhere
1141
01:01:45,049 --> 01:01:49,053
to the code
of officer conduct,
1142
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:53,318
actually loses sight of why
he's there in the first place.
1143
01:01:53,405 --> 01:01:57,148
He realizes that the whole thing
of the properness
1144
01:01:57,235 --> 01:01:58,976
and the Britishness
and the what officers did
1145
01:01:59,063 --> 01:02:00,847
and everything like that,
1146
01:02:00,934 --> 01:02:03,676
it was ultimately to defeat
their enemy, the Japanese,
1147
01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:07,027
and that's why he says,
"What have I done?"
1148
01:02:07,114 --> 01:02:08,594
What have I done?
1149
01:02:09,595 --> 01:02:11,075
And he falls,
1150
01:02:11,162 --> 01:02:13,164
and it's his body that
hits the detonator
1151
01:02:13,251 --> 01:02:15,557
and blows the bridge up.
1152
01:02:25,916 --> 01:02:29,093
Could you imagine yourself
being in a similar position?
1153
01:02:29,180 --> 01:02:30,529
I think anybody could.
1154
01:02:30,616 --> 01:02:33,575
You have to call into question
1155
01:02:33,662 --> 01:02:36,535
and hold yourself
personally accountable,
1156
01:02:36,622 --> 01:02:38,015
or you could end up
like Colonel Nicholson.
1157
01:02:38,102 --> 01:02:39,843
You could realize,
1158
01:02:39,930 --> 01:02:44,195
hey, maybe this
populist-nationalist movement
1159
01:02:44,282 --> 01:02:47,285
is more destructive
than beneficial.
1160
01:03:02,126 --> 01:03:03,780
You have decisions.
1161
01:03:04,955 --> 01:03:06,652
General Savage had decisions
1162
01:03:09,046 --> 01:03:10,874
and Nicholson has decisions.
1163
01:03:16,967 --> 01:03:19,970
In the Judeo-Christian West,
1164
01:03:20,057 --> 01:03:21,798
we're made in the image
and likeness of God.
1165
01:03:23,408 --> 01:03:25,062
We're fallen.
1166
01:03:30,154 --> 01:03:35,899
I was reading about Lucifer
in Milton's Paradise Lost,
1167
01:03:35,986 --> 01:03:38,989
and I have to say that
Lucifer, for me,
1168
01:03:39,076 --> 01:03:41,687
had certain Bannon-esque
qualities.
1169
01:03:43,602 --> 01:03:46,474
He's the interesting character
in Paradise Lost.
1170
01:03:46,561 --> 01:03:48,520
[Morris]
"Rather reign in Hell"
1171
01:03:48,607 --> 01:03:51,262
"Than serve in Heaven."
Love that line.
1172
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:52,916
I use it all the time.
1173
01:03:53,003 --> 01:03:54,134
-You do?
-Oh, yeah, all the time.
1174
01:03:54,221 --> 01:03:56,310
There's a lot of truth to that.
1175
01:04:04,710 --> 01:04:09,628
I think it was on
the 28th or 29th of December,
1176
01:04:09,715 --> 01:04:13,458
President Obama put sanctions
on the Russians,
1177
01:04:13,545 --> 01:04:15,460
including this
fairly dramatic
1178
01:04:15,547 --> 01:04:18,463
send 35 people
home to Russia,
1179
01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:25,209
in reaction to interference
in the 2016 campaign.
1180
01:04:32,042 --> 01:04:33,304
I thought it was...
1181
01:04:33,391 --> 01:04:36,829
unusual.
1182
01:04:36,916 --> 01:04:39,658
So all I said was,
1183
01:04:39,745 --> 01:04:43,836
"Let's have Trump see
exactly what Obama saw,
1184
01:04:43,923 --> 01:04:45,969
and let him be briefed
by the same people,
1185
01:04:46,056 --> 01:04:47,318
in the exact same presentation.
1186
01:04:47,405 --> 01:04:50,495
No more, and no less."
1187
01:04:50,582 --> 01:04:51,975
You're the one who asked for it?
1188
01:04:52,062 --> 01:04:54,238
I demanded it.
1189
01:04:54,325 --> 01:04:58,503
You see, to be fair
to Donald Trump,
1190
01:04:58,590 --> 01:05:01,506
let's talk about
the establishment.
1191
01:05:01,593 --> 01:05:05,162
Leave how fucked up
all these guys think he is.
1192
01:05:05,249 --> 01:05:07,991
He's going to be President
of the United States,
1193
01:05:08,078 --> 01:05:10,254
whether you like it or not.
1194
01:05:11,864 --> 01:05:16,216
And you have a responsibility
to this country
1195
01:05:16,303 --> 01:05:18,436
and to its people to make sure
1196
01:05:19,698 --> 01:05:21,569
that it's a smooth transition.
1197
01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:31,710
What was agreed to,
there would be a presentation.
1198
01:05:37,281 --> 01:05:40,458
I got DNI here, I got CIA here,
I got NSA here,
1199
01:05:40,545 --> 01:05:44,027
I got my official staff, right?
1200
01:05:44,114 --> 01:05:45,985
That's a good effect.
1201
01:05:46,072 --> 01:05:49,641
I said, "Come on down.
Let's see that presentation."
1202
01:05:52,861 --> 01:05:55,081
-The way I read it--
-Hang on, hang on, hang on,
1203
01:05:55,168 --> 01:05:58,215
hang on, hang on, hang on.
Now you've got me worked up.
1204
01:05:58,302 --> 01:06:02,393
Now, turns out that Comey,
the head of the FBI,
1205
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,831
had a sidebar package,
1206
01:06:05,918 --> 01:06:09,226
It kind of felt like
either a raw file
1207
01:06:09,313 --> 01:06:11,315
or what's in the very early
stages of a field report.
1208
01:06:16,711 --> 01:06:18,496
And that's what
I get upset about.
1209
01:06:18,583 --> 01:06:22,065
How come it's not an appendix
in the presentation?
1210
01:06:22,152 --> 01:06:23,805
You know why it's
not an appendix?
1211
01:06:26,025 --> 01:06:29,463
Because they were all set
to leak this to the media.
1212
01:06:30,508 --> 01:06:33,511
And surprise, surprise.
1213
01:06:33,598 --> 01:06:35,426
What was it,
24, 48 hours later,
1214
01:06:35,513 --> 01:06:38,037
Buzzfeed launched it and then
everybody did a story
1215
01:06:38,124 --> 01:06:41,432
about the story, which is
the easy way out, the cheat.
1216
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:43,086
Remember, I ran Breitbart.
1217
01:06:43,173 --> 01:06:44,348
I know the game.
1218
01:06:48,134 --> 01:06:51,485
A site like Buzzfeed
got a little looser standards
1219
01:06:51,572 --> 01:06:54,880
than the paper of record.
So they put it up,
1220
01:06:54,967 --> 01:06:57,274
and then the New York Times
does a story about the story
1221
01:06:57,361 --> 01:07:00,103
and links to the whole thing,
and then it's a global story.
1222
01:07:04,585 --> 01:07:07,849
Is that the way
the establishment
is supposed to roll?
1223
01:07:07,936 --> 01:07:09,155
Is that the game
you want to play?
1224
01:07:09,242 --> 01:07:11,636
You want to play that game?
1225
01:07:11,723 --> 01:07:16,728
You don't think our institutions
are rotten at its core?
1226
01:07:16,815 --> 01:07:22,299
Comey said that when Trump was
apprised of the Steele dossier,
1227
01:07:22,386 --> 01:07:25,345
he was just interested
in damage control.
1228
01:07:25,432 --> 01:07:30,916
Right. I think why it's unfair
for Comey to say that,
1229
01:07:31,003 --> 01:07:34,920
you're presenting a guy
that he's paying prostitutes
1230
01:07:35,007 --> 01:07:40,012
in a foreign capital to do
these kind of perverse sex acts,
1231
01:07:40,099 --> 01:07:42,841
so I don't know.
1232
01:07:42,928 --> 01:07:45,713
I was speaking to him
and briefing him
1233
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,369
about some salacious
and unverified material.
1234
01:07:49,456 --> 01:07:52,851
It was in the context of that,
1235
01:07:52,938 --> 01:07:56,246
that he had a strong
and defensive reaction
1236
01:07:56,333 --> 01:07:58,335
about that not being true.
1237
01:07:58,422 --> 01:08:00,163
And my reading of it was,
1238
01:08:00,250 --> 01:08:01,773
it was important for me
to assure him
1239
01:08:01,860 --> 01:08:03,601
we were not personally
investigating him.
1240
01:08:03,688 --> 01:08:07,170
I was very, very much
about being in kind of a
1241
01:08:07,257 --> 01:08:09,215
kind of a J. Edgar Hoover-type
situation.
1242
01:08:09,302 --> 01:08:12,871
I didn't want him thinking
that I was briefing him on this,
1243
01:08:12,958 --> 01:08:15,569
to sort of hang it
over him in some way.
1244
01:08:15,656 --> 01:08:18,181
I was briefing him on it because
we had been told by the media
1245
01:08:18,268 --> 01:08:19,573
it was about to launch.
1246
01:08:19,660 --> 01:08:23,229
And what about the weirdness
of Trump
1247
01:08:23,316 --> 01:08:25,188
saying why he fired Comey
1248
01:08:25,275 --> 01:08:29,801
was because of Comey's handling
of Hillary's emails,
1249
01:08:31,542 --> 01:08:35,763
and then backtracking.
1250
01:08:35,850 --> 01:08:37,548
I wouldn't even
call it backtracking,
1251
01:08:37,635 --> 01:08:40,725
because backtracking
indicates that you know
1252
01:08:40,812 --> 01:08:42,379
that you're backtracking,
1253
01:08:42,466 --> 01:08:45,208
and then just saying,
1254
01:08:45,295 --> 01:08:48,080
"Now I'm going to fire him
1255
01:08:48,167 --> 01:08:50,213
because he's getting obsessed
with Russia."
1256
01:08:51,475 --> 01:08:53,564
Did you ask for
a recommendation?
1257
01:08:53,651 --> 01:08:56,828
What I did is,
I was going to fire Comey.
1258
01:08:56,915 --> 01:08:58,743
My decision.
It was not--
1259
01:08:58,830 --> 01:09:00,092
You had made the decision
before they came in the room?
1260
01:09:00,179 --> 01:09:02,268
I was going to fire Comey.
1261
01:09:02,355 --> 01:09:04,749
There's no good time to do it,
by the way.
1262
01:09:04,836 --> 01:09:06,272
-They--
-Because in your letter
you said,
1263
01:09:06,359 --> 01:09:08,318
"I accepted
their recommendation."
1264
01:09:08,405 --> 01:09:10,102
-Yeah, well they also--
-You had already made
the decision.
1265
01:09:10,189 --> 01:09:12,409
I was going to fire
regardless of recommendation.
1266
01:09:12,496 --> 01:09:15,238
When I decided to just do it,
I said to myself,
1267
01:09:15,325 --> 01:09:17,283
I said, "You know,
1268
01:09:17,370 --> 01:09:21,200
this Russia thing with Trump
and Russia is a made-up story.
1269
01:09:21,287 --> 01:09:24,290
It's an excuse by the Democrats
for having lost an election.
1270
01:09:26,423 --> 01:09:28,773
In the White House,
I'm another schmendrick.
1271
01:09:28,860 --> 01:09:30,775
I'm just an advisor.
1272
01:09:30,862 --> 01:09:34,344
I'm just another voice
around the table.
1273
01:09:34,431 --> 01:09:38,478
I would give the President
my opinion with the bark on.
1274
01:09:38,565 --> 01:09:42,439
I said, "Director Comey
should stay.
1275
01:09:42,526 --> 01:09:44,615
Finish out his investigation."
1276
01:09:44,702 --> 01:09:47,792
Just from a practical point
of view, I saw it decelerating.
1277
01:09:47,879 --> 01:09:49,794
I mean, you could tell
the reporters were tired of it.
1278
01:09:49,881 --> 01:09:52,231
There was no more squeeze
in the lemon.
1279
01:09:52,318 --> 01:09:53,667
It just didn't have the juice.
1280
01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:02,676
Firing Comey doesn't mean
the investigation's gonna stop.
1281
01:10:02,763 --> 01:10:04,200
The FBI's got an investigation.
1282
01:10:06,593 --> 01:10:09,248
And I said, "If you fire him
two things are going to happen,
1283
01:10:09,335 --> 01:10:10,728
as night follows day."
1284
01:10:12,382 --> 01:10:14,732
Within a week,
1285
01:10:14,819 --> 01:10:16,516
they're going
to name a special counsel.
1286
01:10:24,568 --> 01:10:26,744
And the special counsel's gonna
have a writ
1287
01:10:26,831 --> 01:10:28,224
that's going to be so broad--
1288
01:10:30,835 --> 01:10:33,185
You're just not going to fire
the head of the FBI
1289
01:10:33,272 --> 01:10:35,013
doing an investigation,
1290
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:37,015
and they're just going to sit
there and go, "OK, that's fine."
1291
01:10:37,102 --> 01:10:40,192
The institution of the FBI
is gonna bleed you out...
1292
01:10:40,279 --> 01:10:41,672
because they have to.
1293
01:10:41,759 --> 01:10:44,240
It calls into question...
1294
01:10:44,327 --> 01:10:47,417
the institutions in this country
and the establishment.
1295
01:10:47,504 --> 01:10:49,941
There has been,
from the beginning,
1296
01:10:50,028 --> 01:10:55,425
a nullification project
on the 2016 election.
1297
01:10:55,512 --> 01:10:59,124
And if they can't nullify it,
at least question his legitimacy
1298
01:10:59,211 --> 01:11:00,865
so much that he can't govern.
1299
01:11:00,952 --> 01:11:02,736
People say, "That's the deep
state, it's deep state."
1300
01:11:02,823 --> 01:11:05,261
It's not the deep state.
That's the in-your-face state.
1301
01:11:05,348 --> 01:11:06,697
It's not a deep state.
1302
01:11:06,784 --> 01:11:08,133
It's sitting right there
on the surface.
1303
01:11:17,708 --> 01:11:20,450
[Reporter] Bannon was CEO
of the Trump campaign.
1304
01:11:20,537 --> 01:11:23,757
[Female reporter] Now is seen as
one of the most powerful people
in the White House.
1305
01:11:23,844 --> 01:11:27,761
The force behind many of
Trump's early moves, a member of
the National Security Council.
1306
01:11:27,848 --> 01:11:30,416
[Jake Tapper]
To be clear, this has
never been done before.
1307
01:11:30,503 --> 01:11:32,070
[Reporter] One of the most
mysterious players
1308
01:11:32,157 --> 01:11:33,854
in the President's
inner circle.
1309
01:11:33,941 --> 01:11:35,465
[Stephanopoulos] The puppet
master behind President Trump.
1310
01:11:37,336 --> 01:11:39,556
[Reporter 1]
A reputation as an influential,
1311
01:11:39,643 --> 01:11:41,340
behind-the-scenes string-puller.
1312
01:11:41,427 --> 01:11:42,950
[Reporter 2] This executive
order has made Bannon
1313
01:11:43,037 --> 01:11:44,735
much more of
a target in Washington.
1314
01:11:44,822 --> 01:11:47,303
[Reporter 3] His controversial
views on Islam.
1315
01:11:47,390 --> 01:11:49,609
[Reporter 4]
Stirring racial hatred
in the United States.
1316
01:11:49,696 --> 01:11:52,133
[Reporter 5] Doubling down
on increasing people's fear
and hatred.
1317
01:11:52,220 --> 01:11:54,266
[Reporter 6]
He's a stone-cold racist.
1318
01:11:54,353 --> 01:11:56,660
[Reporter 7]
And his extreme political agenda
remains deeply troubling.
1319
01:11:56,747 --> 01:12:00,316
[Reporter 8]
The most powerful person
in the White House right now,
1320
01:12:00,403 --> 01:12:02,187
including the President.
1321
01:12:05,103 --> 01:12:09,325
Were you the principal author
of the travel ban?
1322
01:12:09,412 --> 01:12:13,677
Stephen Miller
was one of the chief architects
1323
01:12:13,764 --> 01:12:16,027
of many of
the initial executive orders.
1324
01:12:16,114 --> 01:12:17,768
I thought the extreme
vetting executive order,
1325
01:12:17,855 --> 01:12:19,813
which you call the travel ban,
1326
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:22,599
it's a very pragmatic thing
about extreme vetting.
1327
01:12:22,686 --> 01:12:24,427
Look, it bothered me,
1328
01:12:24,514 --> 01:12:26,690
because I felt
that it was inherently racist.
1329
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:32,304
And this is
"The Protection of the Nation
1330
01:12:32,391 --> 01:12:36,874
from Foreign Terrorist Entry
into the United States."
1331
01:12:36,961 --> 01:12:38,441
We all know what that means.
1332
01:12:52,324 --> 01:12:55,675
I think the media
completely overplayed that.
1333
01:12:55,762 --> 01:12:59,810
Donald J. Trump is calling for
a total and complete shutdown
1334
01:12:59,897 --> 01:13:02,900
of Muslims entering
the United States,
1335
01:13:02,987 --> 01:13:06,338
until our country's
representatives
1336
01:13:06,425 --> 01:13:09,820
can figure out what
the hell is going on!
1337
01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:12,039
[cheering]
1338
01:13:16,609 --> 01:13:17,741
We have no choice.
1339
01:13:18,742 --> 01:13:21,658
We have no choice.
1340
01:13:21,745 --> 01:13:24,661
We did want to hit
on day one
1341
01:13:24,748 --> 01:13:27,881
and just start to really flood
the zone with executive orders.
1342
01:13:27,968 --> 01:13:30,101
It now is the hour of action.
1343
01:13:30,188 --> 01:13:33,278
The media can only handle,
like, one thing at the time.
1344
01:13:33,365 --> 01:13:35,454
If you've given them
five things a day,
1345
01:13:35,541 --> 01:13:38,022
right, three of them
you can kind of get through.
1346
01:13:38,109 --> 01:13:39,937
The idea is they
go into sensory overload?
1347
01:13:40,024 --> 01:13:42,418
Exactly. They do.
1348
01:13:44,289 --> 01:13:47,423
[Morris] But you had the chaos
at the airports.
1349
01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:50,034
People who have a legitimate
purpose in this country
1350
01:13:50,121 --> 01:13:53,211
being excluded.
1351
01:13:53,298 --> 01:13:57,389
There's a certain kind
of meanness and racism
1352
01:13:57,476 --> 01:13:59,391
at the heart of this.
1353
01:13:59,478 --> 01:14:01,915
You think it's racist?
1354
01:14:02,002 --> 01:14:07,268
I believe that this whole thing
about walls and immigration
1355
01:14:07,355 --> 01:14:09,880
isn't really about
economic populism.
1356
01:14:09,967 --> 01:14:12,404
I think it is about racism.
1357
01:14:12,491 --> 01:14:14,493
Do people really think
that this border wall
1358
01:14:14,580 --> 01:14:17,540
is going to suddenly provide
jobs for them?
1359
01:14:17,627 --> 01:14:19,542
No, I think
they don't like Mexicans
1360
01:14:19,629 --> 01:14:21,979
or they don't like Arabs
1361
01:14:22,066 --> 01:14:23,720
or they don't like Jews.
1362
01:14:41,085 --> 01:14:43,914
Well, let's go to
a distasteful subject,
1363
01:14:44,001 --> 01:14:46,612
Charlottesville.
1364
01:14:46,699 --> 01:14:48,571
[Reporter 1] It was a weekend
of street battles
1365
01:14:48,658 --> 01:14:50,573
and stark displays
of racism,
1366
01:14:50,660 --> 01:14:54,272
exploding into a deadly act
of domestic terror...
1367
01:14:54,359 --> 01:14:56,361
[Reporter 2]
Hundreds of white nationalists
from across the country
1368
01:14:56,448 --> 01:14:59,103
descended upon the University
of Virginia's campus,
1369
01:14:59,190 --> 01:15:01,105
ahead of a planned demonstration
1370
01:15:01,192 --> 01:15:03,281
to protest the removal
of the statue
1371
01:15:03,368 --> 01:15:05,762
of Confederate General
Robert E. Lee.
1372
01:15:05,849 --> 01:15:08,808
[crowd chanting]
You will not replace us.
1373
01:15:08,895 --> 01:15:12,290
You will not replace us!
1374
01:15:12,377 --> 01:15:15,772
Jews will not replace us!
1375
01:15:15,859 --> 01:15:18,949
You will not replace us!
1376
01:15:19,036 --> 01:15:22,605
Jews will not replace us!
1377
01:15:22,692 --> 01:15:25,695
Jews will not
replace us!
1378
01:15:25,782 --> 01:15:28,959
Jews will not replace us!
1379
01:15:29,046 --> 01:15:32,528
Jews will not
replace us!
1380
01:15:32,615 --> 01:15:35,052
Jews will not replace us!
1381
01:15:35,139 --> 01:15:37,489
Look, reasonable people
1382
01:15:37,576 --> 01:15:40,971
can disagree
about the Confederate monuments.
1383
01:15:41,058 --> 01:15:44,975
The original protests of,
I think we ought to put shrouds
1384
01:15:45,062 --> 01:15:48,152
on the statues of General Lee
or General Jackson
1385
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:51,242
or remove them,
versus people that say,
1386
01:15:51,329 --> 01:15:53,505
"No, this is part of southern
heritage and southern culture.
1387
01:15:53,592 --> 01:15:56,813
It's not racist,
and they should be honored."
1388
01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:00,991
And guess what, there are decent
on both sides of that argument.
1389
01:16:01,078 --> 01:16:04,560
White lives matter!
White lives matter!
1390
01:16:04,647 --> 01:16:05,996
White lives matter!
1391
01:16:06,083 --> 01:16:08,172
White lives matter!
1392
01:16:08,259 --> 01:16:10,914
White lives matter!
White lives matter!
1393
01:16:20,184 --> 01:16:22,403
Get them off of us!
Get them off of John!
1394
01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:26,712
They're beating the fuck
out of us! Get them off!
1395
01:16:26,799 --> 01:16:29,193
You go down to the next guys,
these neo-Nazis or whatever.
1396
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,543
Those guys,
they have no standing,
1397
01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:33,719
OK, and when they show up
they should be shut down.
1398
01:16:33,806 --> 01:16:36,374
They're bad guys, OK,
1399
01:16:36,461 --> 01:16:41,248
and they're a creation
of the opposition party media.
1400
01:16:41,335 --> 01:16:42,946
They're meaningless
in this Trump movement.
1401
01:16:43,033 --> 01:16:44,251
They're meaningless
in the populist movement.
1402
01:16:44,338 --> 01:16:47,037
They're totally,
completely meaningless.
1403
01:16:47,124 --> 01:16:48,908
[car screeching,
people screaming]
1404
01:17:01,791 --> 01:17:02,966
Go, go, go, go.
1405
01:17:10,495 --> 01:17:14,891
Did you guys just see that?
A car just plowed through
1406
01:17:14,978 --> 01:17:18,721
hundreds of people,
downtown Charlottesville.
1407
01:17:18,808 --> 01:17:20,940
Holy...
1408
01:17:21,027 --> 01:17:22,420
We need the ambulances.
1409
01:17:33,344 --> 01:17:35,607
It's not conservative media
that's giving them a platform.
1410
01:17:35,694 --> 01:17:37,957
It's the left media.
It's MSNBC
1411
01:17:38,044 --> 01:17:39,959
and Huffington Post,
you've got the left--
1412
01:17:40,046 --> 01:17:42,919
There is something
incredibly perverse
1413
01:17:43,006 --> 01:17:46,183
about saying that neo-Nazis
1414
01:17:46,270 --> 01:17:48,794
are a creation of
the mainstream media.
1415
01:17:48,881 --> 01:17:50,927
No, because they're a creation
of how big and important
1416
01:17:51,014 --> 01:17:52,102
and how...
a place they have.
1417
01:17:52,189 --> 01:17:53,538
They don't have any place.
1418
01:17:56,019 --> 01:17:58,630
At Breitbart News, Steve Bannon
provided a platform
1419
01:17:58,717 --> 01:18:00,371
for alt-right groups
1420
01:18:00,458 --> 01:18:02,112
who have links
to white supremacists.
1421
01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:05,028
A man who proudly promoted
right-wing nationalism
1422
01:18:05,115 --> 01:18:06,856
inside the White House
and beyond.
1423
01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:14,690
[Reporter] Can you tell us
how you're feeling
1424
01:18:14,777 --> 01:18:16,082
about your chief strategist
Mr. Bannon?
1425
01:18:16,169 --> 01:18:18,128
I never spoke to
Mr. Bannon about it.
1426
01:18:18,215 --> 01:18:21,000
Can you tell us broadly what y-
Do you still have confidence?
1427
01:18:21,087 --> 01:18:22,698
Well, we'll see.
Look, look.
1428
01:18:22,785 --> 01:18:25,048
I like Mr. Bannon.
He's a friend of mine.
1429
01:18:25,135 --> 01:18:27,746
But Mr. Bannon came on
very late. You know that.
1430
01:18:27,833 --> 01:18:31,315
I went through
17 senators, governors,
1431
01:18:31,402 --> 01:18:33,317
and I won all the primaries.
1432
01:18:33,404 --> 01:18:36,189
Mr. Bannon came on
very much later than that.
1433
01:18:36,276 --> 01:18:39,192
And I like him.
He's a good man.
1434
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:41,717
He is not a racist,
I can tell you that.
1435
01:18:41,804 --> 01:18:44,850
He's a good person. He actually
gets a very unfair press
1436
01:18:44,937 --> 01:18:46,373
in that regard.
1437
01:18:46,460 --> 01:18:49,246
But we'll see what happens
with Mr. Bannon.
1438
01:19:10,833 --> 01:19:13,923
God save thee, my sweet boy!
1439
01:19:15,663 --> 01:19:18,536
Have you your wits?
Know you what 'tis you say?
1440
01:19:18,623 --> 01:19:22,409
My King! My Jove.
1441
01:19:24,107 --> 01:19:26,849
I speak to thee, my heart.
1442
01:19:26,936 --> 01:19:31,114
I know thee not, old man.
Fall to thy prayers.
1443
01:19:35,814 --> 01:19:39,644
How ill white hairs
become a fool and jester.
1444
01:19:41,689 --> 01:19:45,215
I have long dreamed
of such a kind of man.
1445
01:19:45,302 --> 01:19:49,872
So surfeit-swelled, so old,
and so profane.
1446
01:19:49,959 --> 01:19:53,310
But being awaked,
I do despise my dream.
1447
01:19:57,053 --> 01:20:00,752
Presume not
that I am the thing I was.
1448
01:20:00,839 --> 01:20:04,495
For God doth know,
so shall the world perceive,
1449
01:20:04,582 --> 01:20:07,280
that I have turned away
my former self.
1450
01:20:07,367 --> 01:20:09,587
So will I those
that kept me company.
1451
01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:13,504
When thou dost hear I am
as I have been, approach me,
1452
01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:15,071
and thou shalt be
as thou wast,
1453
01:20:15,158 --> 01:20:18,117
the tutor and
the feeder of my riots.
1454
01:20:18,204 --> 01:20:21,860
'Til then, I banish thee
on pain of death,
1455
01:20:21,947 --> 01:20:24,645
as I have done
the rest of my misleaders,
1456
01:20:24,732 --> 01:20:28,301
not to come near our person
by ten miles.
1457
01:20:30,173 --> 01:20:34,612
[Bannon]
Falstaff is the very
human element of Henry V.
1458
01:20:34,699 --> 01:20:37,615
He really shows him
what it is to be a full person,
1459
01:20:37,702 --> 01:20:40,313
takes him through
the transition to manhood.
1460
01:20:42,707 --> 01:20:46,319
He's saying,
"I am now the King of England,
1461
01:20:48,017 --> 01:20:49,757
and it's just not
going to work."
1462
01:20:51,716 --> 01:20:55,198
I guess the irony is that
the Trump-Bannon relationship?
1463
01:20:55,285 --> 01:20:57,330
I could see that
in watching it, you know,
1464
01:20:57,417 --> 01:20:58,984
"banished from the kingdom."
1465
01:20:59,071 --> 01:21:02,335
Do you think that
Falstaff was betrayed?
1466
01:21:02,422 --> 01:21:04,947
Not at all. I think if you go
back to Twelve O'Clock High,
1467
01:21:05,034 --> 01:21:06,818
it's his Dharma.
1468
01:21:06,905 --> 01:21:08,211
That's his duty.
1469
01:21:12,389 --> 01:21:15,131
He is now the King of England.
He's not the young man
1470
01:21:15,218 --> 01:21:18,961
who was unformed
when Falstaff met him.
1471
01:21:19,048 --> 01:21:22,486
He understands that Falstaff
can have no role in that.
1472
01:21:22,573 --> 01:21:24,096
I didn't take it personally.
1473
01:21:24,183 --> 01:21:26,011
I think the look on Falstaff's
face at the end
1474
01:21:26,098 --> 01:21:28,840
is projecting that Falstaff
understands that too,
1475
01:21:28,927 --> 01:21:30,059
that this had to happen.
1476
01:21:31,930 --> 01:21:33,671
This is the logical order
of things.
1477
01:21:39,242 --> 01:21:41,722
[Morris] I would never have
interpreted it that way.
1478
01:21:41,809 --> 01:21:44,595
-How would you interpret it?
-I saw it as a betrayal.
1479
01:21:44,682 --> 01:21:46,031
Why a betrayal?
1480
01:21:46,118 --> 01:21:48,555
Because Falstaff
gave him everything.
1481
01:21:50,296 --> 01:21:51,994
He did give him everything,
1482
01:21:52,081 --> 01:21:55,388
but remember, Sir John Falstaff
knows the entire time
1483
01:21:55,475 --> 01:21:57,869
that this guy is going
to be the King of England.
1484
01:21:57,956 --> 01:22:00,959
It is almost like
he's training Henry V.
1485
01:22:01,046 --> 01:22:02,352
Clearly at the end he thinks
he's going to get,
1486
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,527
as he tells his buddy,
1487
01:22:03,614 --> 01:22:05,529
"I ran the campaign.
1488
01:22:05,616 --> 01:22:08,097
Now I'm gonna be
senior strategist, right?
1489
01:22:08,184 --> 01:22:09,185
I got a special deal."
1490
01:22:11,056 --> 01:22:13,885
And you're told you're not.
1491
01:22:13,972 --> 01:22:18,194
To look at Falstaff at the end,
at least to me,
1492
01:22:18,281 --> 01:22:21,545
he understands
that it's not really a betrayal.
1493
01:22:21,632 --> 01:22:23,460
It's the natural
order of things.
1494
01:22:53,185 --> 01:22:55,796
The film is based upon
the beginnings of the mutiny,
1495
01:22:55,883 --> 01:22:57,189
when the French soldiers said,
1496
01:22:57,276 --> 01:22:58,582
"We're not going
to do this anymore."
1497
01:23:02,325 --> 01:23:03,935
They couldn't take
being treated like animals.
1498
01:23:07,330 --> 01:23:09,288
That's the Deplorables
right there.
1499
01:23:18,689 --> 01:23:21,257
The officers and the politicians
1500
01:23:21,344 --> 01:23:23,607
are all in these chateaus.
They're having balls--
1501
01:23:25,348 --> 01:23:27,002
It's the Deplorables
that are in the trenches,
1502
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,658
living like rats, with rats.
1503
01:23:37,795 --> 01:23:41,190
I'd like to have those guys
in the trenches make decisions.
1504
01:23:41,277 --> 01:23:45,107
But that's the problem, it's
the elites making the decisions.
1505
01:23:45,194 --> 01:23:48,110
Think of all the bad decisions
that have been made on globalism
1506
01:23:48,197 --> 01:23:50,460
by this kind of scientific
1507
01:23:50,547 --> 01:23:53,463
engineering-managerial-
financial elite.
1508
01:23:58,598 --> 01:24:00,078
Look at where the country is.
1509
01:24:00,165 --> 01:24:01,297
Look at where
working class people are.
1510
01:24:01,384 --> 01:24:03,081
Look where the middle class is,
1511
01:24:03,168 --> 01:24:05,649
particularly from
the financial crisis.
1512
01:24:05,736 --> 01:24:07,172
People have been
getting fucked.
1513
01:24:13,918 --> 01:24:15,311
It's as obvious
as the nose on your face.
1514
01:24:15,398 --> 01:24:16,877
We have a consolidation
of power.
1515
01:24:16,964 --> 01:24:18,836
We have a consolidation
of wealth.
1516
01:24:24,755 --> 01:24:26,235
You have to tell
the establishment,
1517
01:24:26,322 --> 01:24:28,367
"Go fuck yourself."
1518
01:24:28,454 --> 01:24:30,065
You just have to.
1519
01:24:33,155 --> 01:24:35,418
[Morris] I call him
the Fuck You President,
1520
01:24:35,505 --> 01:24:39,030
because all of those people,
1521
01:24:39,117 --> 01:24:41,902
all they've wanted to do
is to say to people,
1522
01:24:41,989 --> 01:24:45,428
"Hey, you, go fuck yourself.
Fuck You."
1523
01:24:46,820 --> 01:24:49,214
He's the Fuck You President.
1524
01:24:49,301 --> 01:24:52,348
You want healthcare?
Fuck you.
1525
01:24:52,435 --> 01:24:56,047
You want clean drinking water?
Fuck you!
1526
01:24:56,134 --> 01:24:57,266
Please.
1527
01:25:01,966 --> 01:25:04,360
What the little guy wants is to
fuck you to the establishment.
1528
01:25:07,450 --> 01:25:09,713
I'm on a mission to try to
remake the Republican Party
1529
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,628
into more of a workers' party.
1530
01:25:11,715 --> 01:25:15,284
And some days we have good days
and more days we have bad days.
1531
01:25:15,371 --> 01:25:19,201
It's not easy, because the money
and the power's on their side.
1532
01:25:19,288 --> 01:25:24,206
But why channel people's hatred
of the Other?
1533
01:25:24,293 --> 01:25:26,599
Your assumption is that
it's something of the Other.
1534
01:25:26,686 --> 01:25:29,211
It is not about the other.
1535
01:25:29,298 --> 01:25:30,473
Everything that
we've been focused on
1536
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,604
is about American citizens.
1537
01:25:31,691 --> 01:25:33,389
This is not about the Other.
1538
01:25:33,476 --> 01:25:37,001
This is about maximizing
the value of your citizenship.
1539
01:25:56,238 --> 01:25:58,936
President Trump's
"economic nationalism"
1540
01:25:59,023 --> 01:26:03,419
does not care about your race,
your religion, your ethnicity,
1541
01:26:03,506 --> 01:26:05,116
or your gender.
1542
01:26:05,203 --> 01:26:07,292
It doesn't care
about your sexual preference.
1543
01:26:09,555 --> 01:26:12,819
It cares about one thing.
1544
01:26:12,906 --> 01:26:15,692
Are you a citizen
of the United States?
1545
01:26:17,868 --> 01:26:21,785
I can tell you one thing
after going all over the world.
1546
01:26:21,872 --> 01:26:24,527
History is on our side.
1547
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,717
The globalists have
no answers to freedom.
1548
01:26:42,893 --> 01:26:44,808
Let them call you racist.
1549
01:26:44,895 --> 01:26:46,636
Let them call you xenophobes.
1550
01:26:48,420 --> 01:26:49,639
Let them call you nativist.
1551
01:26:51,902 --> 01:26:54,165
Wear it as a badge of honor.
1552
01:26:59,388 --> 01:27:02,217
When I walk in,
1553
01:27:02,304 --> 01:27:06,221
eighty or ninety percent of
the audience spits on the floor.
1554
01:27:07,918 --> 01:27:10,181
Because here you have
this racist, nativist,
1555
01:27:10,268 --> 01:27:11,965
really bad guy.
1556
01:27:12,052 --> 01:27:14,011
If not for him Donald Trump
wouldn't be president.
1557
01:27:14,098 --> 01:27:17,493
I hit them with
the exact same punchline,
1558
01:27:17,580 --> 01:27:19,582
which I did with Front National
and in Zurich.
1559
01:27:21,105 --> 01:27:24,064
You may be better fed,
better clothed,
1560
01:27:24,151 --> 01:27:29,722
in better shape
than 18th century Russian serfs,
1561
01:27:29,809 --> 01:27:31,550
but you're nothing but serfs.
1562
01:27:31,637 --> 01:27:33,117
You're not gonna own anything.
1563
01:27:33,204 --> 01:27:35,032
They've got you
in this consumer environment
1564
01:27:35,119 --> 01:27:37,339
where you're always
paying off your credit cards.
1565
01:27:37,426 --> 01:27:39,776
They've destroyed thrifts,
so you can't save anything.
1566
01:27:39,863 --> 01:27:41,604
Saving doesn't make
any difference.
1567
01:27:41,691 --> 01:27:43,214
And then digitally
they've taken all your rights,
1568
01:27:43,301 --> 01:27:45,085
they've taken
all your personhood,
1569
01:27:45,172 --> 01:27:46,739
and they've written these
algorithms that treat you like--
1570
01:27:46,826 --> 01:27:48,263
Like a hamster.
1571
01:27:53,616 --> 01:27:56,140
You're totally controlled,
absolutely, totally controlled.
1572
01:27:59,622 --> 01:28:01,145
I harken back to
Twelve O'Clock High.
1573
01:28:02,799 --> 01:28:04,757
You can't fulfill
your destiny.
1574
01:28:07,151 --> 01:28:10,110
You can't fulfill your dharma.
You can't do it.
1575
01:28:12,983 --> 01:28:15,290
You're nothing but a serf.
1576
01:28:26,736 --> 01:28:28,128
You voted for that,
1577
01:28:31,523 --> 01:28:34,918
You're a reflective,
smart person.
1578
01:28:35,005 --> 01:28:38,313
You actually thought about it
and made a conscious decision.
1579
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:44,841
Why? "Oh, I fear you. I fear
Trump. I fear--" It's bullshit.
1580
01:28:44,928 --> 01:28:48,845
Just to clarify, my fear is that
Trump represented nothing.
1581
01:28:52,457 --> 01:28:54,677
There's going to be a revolution
in this country.
1582
01:28:54,764 --> 01:28:56,635
It's coming.
1583
01:28:56,722 --> 01:28:59,421
We can't kick the can down
the road like this. We can't.
1584
01:28:59,508 --> 01:29:01,771
We're gonna have another
financial crisis,
1585
01:29:01,858 --> 01:29:04,817
that everybody that's
smart sees is coming.
1586
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,783
[Morris]
What would revolution mean?
1587
01:29:13,870 --> 01:29:16,481
What are we talking about here?
1588
01:29:16,568 --> 01:29:18,353
[Bannon] A complete rejection
of the system.
1589
01:29:26,752 --> 01:29:29,364
It's gonna cut
like a scythe through grass.
1590
01:29:34,456 --> 01:29:35,718
It is coming.
1591
01:29:36,806 --> 01:29:38,721
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